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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
raser
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway301 Posts
March 16 2011 02:11 GMT
#3021
sometimes im shocked by people http://www.crabpeople.eu/forum/download/file.php?id=325 seriously.....

User was warned for this post
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1894 Posts
March 16 2011 02:14 GMT
#3022
On March 16 2011 11:11 raser wrote:
sometimes im shocked by people http://www.crabpeople.eu/forum/download/file.php?id=325 seriously.....
You risk to be tempbaned.
It's an old pic (already seen at page ~70)
These are just a bounch of American dumbfucks. Every coountry have them. At least there are a lot in Russia. Just let them be dumbfucks, who cares
patyrykin.net
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1692 Posts
March 16 2011 02:14 GMT
#3023
On March 16 2011 11:11 raser wrote:
sometimes im shocked by people http://www.crabpeople.eu/forum/download/file.php?id=325 seriously.....


we know, mani took off the warning, but don't post that anymore b4 u get banned for it.
TearsOfTheSun
Profile Joined March 2006
Canada995 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 02:17:21
March 16 2011 02:15 GMT
#3024
On March 16 2011 11:11 raser wrote:
sometimes im shocked by people http://www.crabpeople.eu/forum/download/file.php?id=325 seriously.....


i didn't realize that was the picture mani was talking about about revenge and all that. i had a huge rant typed out there but i didn't wanna get banned.
Dixer_ca^^ | Polt | Byun | MKP | DRG | White-Ra | Beastyqt | Maru | Creator
VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
March 16 2011 02:16 GMT
#3025
Press conference
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
March 16 2011 02:16 GMT
#3026
Everyone's on edge over here atm... I've had the embassy contact me 4 times in 2 days.. Norway has apparently ordered everyone of theirs out of Tokyo area... I've heard France is the same. We have a bunch of students here who's parents are demanding they return home. (We live in Osaka... 350 miles from Fukushima) Thing's getting a bit crazy..
戦いの中に答えはある
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 02:19:54
March 16 2011 02:18 GMT
#3027
GMT
2:16
DJ: Tepco: Mulling Various Ways To Cool Down Troubled Reactors
------------------------------

2:16
DJ: Tepco: Spraying Boric Acid By Helicopter Is One Option
------------------------------

2:17
DJ: Japan Edano: Prioritizing Delivery Of Fuel To Quake-Tsunami Hit Areas
------------------------------

2:18
DJ: Japan Edano: Smoke Came From Reactor No. 3 From 2330 GMT
------------------------------
patyrykin.net
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 02:26:13
March 16 2011 02:21 GMT
#3028
2:19
DJ: Japan Edano: Radiation Increased At Plant At 0100 GMT
DJ: Japan Edano: But Radiation Already Decreasing
------------------------------

2:21
DJ: Japan Edano: No Report Of Explosion At Fukushima Plant
------------------------------

2:22
DJ: Japan Edano Asks The Public Not To Stock Up On Fuel
------------------------------

2:22
DJ: Tepco Can't Check Smoke At Fukushima Plant As Radiation Is Too High - Kyodo
------------------------------

2:23
DJMN: Japan Edano: Maintaining Sufficient Fuel Stocks Due To Overseas Aid
(MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires
March 15, 2011 22:23 ET (02:23 GMT)

2:24
DJMN: Japan Edano: No Need To Expand Evacuation Area Based On Current Data
(MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires
March 15, 2011 22:24 ET (02:24 GMT)

2:24
DJ: S&P: Japanese Corp Credit Quality Could Deteriorate If Quake Challenges Prolonged
------------------------------
patyrykin.net
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 16 2011 02:24 GMT
#3029
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv

live conference translated
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
March 16 2011 02:25 GMT
#3030
On March 16 2011 11:24 chaoser wrote:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv

live conference translated

Its quite sad to read most of the comments in the chat on that stream :/
The ignorance, paranoia and conspiratorial remarks just never ends. Shame these dimwits don't have the more informed flow of information we have in this thread.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
lgn!
Profile Joined February 2010
Italy224 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 02:30:39
March 16 2011 02:29 GMT
#3031
idd i dont even check for news in other sites, only TL :D

i really hope everything will be fine soon, i'm quite scared about this situation
화이팅
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 16 2011 02:30 GMT
#3032
So apparently they said #1-#3 there have been no breaches in the containment chamber.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
naim
Profile Joined February 2011
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 02:56:31
March 16 2011 02:34 GMT
#3033
On March 16 2011 11:30 chaoser wrote:
So apparently they said #1-#3 there have been no breaches in the containment chamber.

No. They didn't confirm, nor deny it.

one of the few recent images i found
[image loading]

Edit:

For a rough reference, on how the whole site looked like, since not in the OP.
Reactors 5 and 6 under construction on the right side.
Fukushima-Daiichi Original 1975 (Wikipedia)
Kr1pos
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway67 Posts
March 16 2011 02:37 GMT
#3034
On March 16 2011 11:34 naim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 11:30 chaoser wrote:
So apparently they said #1-#3 there have been no breaches in the containment chamber.

No. They didn't confirm, nor deny it.

one of the few recent images i found
[image loading]

HD screencap
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 16 2011 02:40 GMT
#3035
That's the smoke from reactor 3 right?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Ido
Profile Joined November 2005
Germany661 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 02:44:26
March 16 2011 02:44 GMT
#3036
Edano said that the workers left the plant because of radiation
Nienordir
Profile Joined October 2010
98 Posts
March 16 2011 02:45 GMT
#3037
I hate their hesitation..seriously if they had asked for help a few days ago, then special teams/equipment could've already been on site/standby and nobody would blame them if it turns out that it wasn't needed, because nobody wants an accident like that. But if they fart around for more hours/days then it will probably take another 1-3 days to get the stuff ready&to Japan.

I don't get why they waste time by being polite, trying to look good. They just don't have the time to waste or might pay a big price for it..not worth the risk. Just the thought of how much help could've been under way in the past 3-4 days is quite frustrating. :/
VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 02:51:25
March 16 2011 02:48 GMT
#3038
On March 16 2011 11:45 Nienordir wrote:
I hate their hesitation..seriously if they had asked for help a few days ago, then special teams/equipment could've already been on site/standby and nobody would blame them if it turns out that it wasn't needed, because nobody wants an accident like that. But if they fart around for more hours/days then it will probably take another 1-3 days to get the stuff ready&to Japan.

I don't get why they waste time by being polite, trying to look good. They just don't have the time to waste or might pay a big price for it..not worth the risk. Just the thought of how much help could've been under way in the past 3-4 days is quite frustrating. :/

Why do people keep spreading all of this false fearmongering? Do you know personally that they are just trying to "look good" or are you just making it up or taking in what the talking heads on all the internet chats are saying with absolutely no background information.

They asked for assistance from the United States and from the IAEA from the bloody start, they requested expert personel to be sent and they have afaik also requested pumping equipment.

Furthermore there is not a question of manpower or technology Japan is the worlds third largest economy and one of the technologically most advanced countries in the world. The problems at the plant is hard to manage because of the severity of the issues, because the surrounding catastrophy makes it hard to get resources into the region and because the radiation makes it very difficult to work effectively in the area. It is not a matter of lacking key expertise or technology to deal with this that can only be brought in from abroad. This isn't Haiti.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Nienordir
Profile Joined October 2010
98 Posts
March 16 2011 03:02 GMT
#3039
On March 16 2011 11:48 VanGarde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 11:45 Nienordir wrote:
I hate their hesitation..seriously if they had asked for help a few days ago, then special teams/equipment could've already been on site/standby and nobody would blame them if it turns out that it wasn't needed, because nobody wants an accident like that. But if they fart around for more hours/days then it will probably take another 1-3 days to get the stuff ready&to Japan.

I don't get why they waste time by being polite, trying to look good. They just don't have the time to waste or might pay a big price for it..not worth the risk. Just the thought of how much help could've been under way in the past 3-4 days is quite frustrating. :/

Why do people keep spreading all of this false fearmongering? Do you know personally that they are just trying to "look good" or are you just making it up or taking in what the talking heads on all the internet chats are saying with absolutely no background information.

They asked for assistance from the United States and from the IAEA from the bloody start, they requested expert personel to be sent and they have afaik also requested pumping equipment.

Furthermore there is not a question of manpower or technology Japan is the worlds third largest economy and one of the technologically most advanced countries in the world. The problems at the plant is hard to manage because of the severity of the issues, because the surrounding catastrophy makes it hard to get resources into the region and because the radiation makes it very difficult to work effectively in the area. It is not a matter of lacking key expertise or technology to deal with this that can only be brought in from abroad. This isn't Haiti.

They got offered help from many countries but aside from a few experts, I don't think they have requested any real help yet. Which means nothing is under way. So we're talking about the time it takes to fly stuff to Japan + the time that is needed to prepare the transport, not to mention the time needed to finally decide to accept the offer.

Fact is if they had asked 2-3 days ago, then specialists, cooling equipment/generators or teams that could help dealing with a possible worst case could already be there ready to deploy. And that's what I find frustrating, because if something happens they're caught with their pants down and with that help the current situation might have looked different. They're just wasting precious time by wanting to deal with that situation on their own instead of preparing for things, when the help is offered for free anyway.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
March 16 2011 03:02 GMT
#3040
Let's assume a scenario: You know an explosion that will cause major fallout over big cities will happen but you also know how to prevent it. You will have to send workers there to but you know that they will get radiated lethally.

What do you do? Do you send them for the greater good anyway?
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