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not sure where you can get/watch this movie, as I got it off the school network.
SuperSize Me
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phiwha
United States158 Posts
http://www.supersizeme.com/ not sure where you can get/watch this movie, as I got it off the school network. | ||
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phiwha
United States158 Posts
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Manifesto7
Osaka27149 Posts
Thre real eyeopener is the psychological aspect fo the food. If I do eat McD's, I really do feel better for about thirty minutes, and then I hit a real wall. I know there was a topic earlier about this movie, but it really is something that anyone that eats that food should eat. | ||
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JoeUser
United States684 Posts
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XDawn
Canada4040 Posts
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LetMeBeWithYou
Canada4254 Posts
I like mcdonalds but i only eat it once a week =] | ||
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0wNaG3-
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seeyoulater
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Refrain[FriZ]
Canada4337 Posts
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eigenSpace
United States122 Posts
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0x64
Finland4555 Posts
 Had those new fried shrimps, cost a lot and doesnt feed a man. Well the problem with the fast food is the food you eat before and after it, and/or the "get a lot more product, for just a little more money" system. It's not the fact that its fast food that makes it bad, but the fact that its cheap food. And to make cheap food good, you add salt and grease :D. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
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0x64
Finland4555 Posts
8 shrimp + soda, 5 bucks. | ||
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eigenSpace
United States122 Posts
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iLoveLulu
Venezuela457 Posts
Really nice  | ||
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lingwu
Japan321 Posts
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SiS
United States753 Posts
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DJEtterStyle
United States2766 Posts
Businesses cater to demand, and it's not like McDonald's is any worse for you than Wendy's, Burger King, Carl's Junior, or Jack in the Box. If people didn't buy their food, they wouldn't sell it. It's the same as the tobacco companies: you can harp on them all you want, but they're just satisfying a demand. And if they don't, someone else will. But yeah, check out the movie. It's entertaining, and the diet's impact on his liver is pretty astounding. | ||
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dronebabo
10866 Posts
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gLyo
United States2410 Posts
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nvnplatypus
Netherlands1300 Posts
On October 15 2004 18:33 LasT[a2] wrote: If you ask me, I'd say food that people eat in asia and such are the healthiest compared to western MCDONALDS (OHH GOD, STOP SAYING IT! T_T) and crap. You're probably right, but only parts of Asia. A lot of Chinese food is just as bad for you as McD's  The countries like Japan that eat a lot of fish are probably best off. | ||
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ForgoTTeN-SupeR
United States786 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
But it's pretty obvious how bad for you fast food is, but I guess it takes things like this to convince you to not eat it. :o | ||
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Not0wNaG3
Canada5 Posts
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ram
Lithuania602 Posts
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s.taro
Canada172 Posts
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Archon_Wing
United States378 Posts
So yea, that discouraged me from eating fast food for a while, although I still do it sometimes. Maybe I'm just resigned to the fact that it was always like that. Maybe I realize that probaly all the food I eat had these kind of terrible circumstances. I was always unforunately dependent on fast food since I can't cook. Although I rarely eat at Mcdonald's anymore; Their shit is overpriced and small. | ||
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Degussa
Singapore108 Posts
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NeverTheEndlessWiz
Singapore827 Posts
learn to love it pls =P its more healthy (duh!) | ||
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Pob
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Art_Of_Rizzoni
Norway53 Posts
Pluss they make americans and an increasing amount of norwegians fat, lazy and passive. Also, check out the commersials from a critical point of view, they all say: "Buy crap, be happy!" or "Buy crap, get pussy!" Comments? No, I'm not a commie. | ||
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hasuwar
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thelucas
Slovakia285 Posts
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ic-REPTILE
Sweden9 Posts
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baal
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Liquid`Oaral
162 Posts
The documentary has certainly affected me, but it doesnt proove anything about the mac donalds. I mean the bottom line is: taking more than 5000 calories every day will make you fat. And that doesnt suprise anyone I think. | ||
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
I seen this documentry and it's quite good. I guess this guy proved what 'everybody' knew.. eating McD three times a day will do you a lot of damage If you haven't seen it he would go to McDs for breakfast/lunch/evening meal and if they asked him if he would like supersize he would have to say yes. | ||
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deTwisj
Netherlands288 Posts
Like Liquid`Oaral said, u can either eat 1 fairly large menu or you can eat 3 super size McD menu's. Edit: I just tried to look up the article but unfortunately you either have to be subscribed to read it or pay-per-view. Anyway, if anyone keeps their newspapers or wants to look himself, here's some specifics about the article (like name and which newspaper/catagory its from) "Foute boodschap" Trefpunt,zaterdag 14 augustus 2004 | ||
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Travin
Sweden672 Posts
Try to eat only one thing of anything for a month and you wont feel so good. This proves shit | ||
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wheretogo
China14 Posts
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Fedaykin
Netherlands2003 Posts
On October 16 2004 05:39 deTwisj wrote: Anyone who is dutch and reads the newspaper "Algemeen Dagblad" will know that they also conducted a similar experiment with McD (without their knowladge) and came to the conclusion that while McD's menu's does serve "unhealthy" food; that if someone takes care in what he orders, there isn't that much to be afraid about. Like Liquid`Oaral said, u can either eat 1 fairly large menu or you can eat 3 super size McD menu's. Edit: I just tried to look up the article but unfortunately you either have to be subscribed to read it or pay-per-view. Anyway, if anyone keeps their newspapers or wants to look himself, here's some specifics about the article (like name and which newspaper/catagory its from) "Foute boodschap" Trefpunt,zaterdag 14 augustus 2004 Loved the article, it pretty much proved that McDonalds isn't the 'bad guy' here, it's what the peson that walks in orders. It also proved that you can eat sort of 'health food' at McD, or at least more than the fat greasy stuff, they got salades | ||
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Art_Of_Rizzoni
Norway53 Posts
whatever. obviously americans prove that it doesn't work that way. - oh and eating salads for a month is no prob => vegetarians. | ||
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lowfi(
Germany280 Posts
It amazed me how the guy could eat at MCD for one month. I have to puke from one buger!!!!!!! | ||
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VaderNL
Netherlands139 Posts
On October 16 2004 06:10 Fedaykin wrote: Loved the article, it pretty much proved that McDonalds isn't the 'bad guy' here, it's what the peson that walks in orders. It also proved that you can eat sort of 'health food' at McD, or at least more than the fat greasy stuff, they got salades Yeah I read that article too. It just proves that if you make sane and conscious choices, you don't have to worry about McDonalds making you fat, because they do offer healthier food as well I believe that guy lost like 6 kg too in that month if i remember correctly. ~Vader | ||
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pooper-scooper
United States3108 Posts
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Danka
Peru1018 Posts
So let people fill up on unhealthy food, be it Mcdondalds BK Dominos Coca Cola or candy. they will have heart problems and the world population goes down.  But seriously. I dont like the idea of Mcdondalds or other internationlal chains. Peru as a country has an excelent culinary culture. However America has "americanized" the world through franchises and countries like Peru loose a little bit of their identity. Its modern conquest. Its not done through wars but economically dominant countries like USA export their brands all over the world. | ||
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vi3t69
Zimbabwe40 Posts
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DevAzTaYtA
Oman2005 Posts
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Canada6140 Posts
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veryn0
United States95 Posts
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Rayzorblade
United States1172 Posts
I've read "Fast Food Nation" and watched several documentaries on America's fast-food frenzy, but in conclusion I have found that America, in general, is merely concerned with passing the buck. By that I mean that Americans are not willing to accept the fact that they are fat because they ate too effing much. Fast food industries don't make you fat -- you make yourself fat by over-eating it in large porportions. Sure, the food isn't healthy, but no one makes you eat it. It's reminiscent of that whole reminiscent argument: Guns don't kill people, people kill people. | ||
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Canada6140 Posts
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Pob
880 Posts
On October 16 2004 19:52 STIMEY d okgm fish wrote: razorblade, what do you eat at mcdonalds? are you assuming that it is normal and possible for everyone to eat regularly at mcdonalds and be thin and athletic and very in shape like you? Yes , it's called genetics , I have it also | ||
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Rayzorblade
United States1172 Posts
That's what I'm saying. And usually, at McDonald's, I order the Big and Tasty Super-sized. The point is, I eat this type of food rarely and work out regardless of what I'm eating. As I said, healthy lifestyle and diet are the key. | ||
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Canada6140 Posts
i hope you stay addicted to that mcdonalds and die of aheart attack at 40 with your abs of steel | ||
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Rayzorblade
United States1172 Posts
On October 16 2004 21:19 STIMEY d okgm fish wrote: okay so you said it yourself. you eat mcdonalds in large quantities. i hope in your next life you get less convenient genes so you can have someone bitch at you while giant companies are banking on influencing you, before you are even old enough to be held responsible for your actions, for not eating too much or buying the wrong foods or not working out as much as you etc. i hope you stay addicted to that mcdonalds and die of aheart attack at 40 with your abs of steel Can you read? Here is what I said: "Not to mention the fact that I work out and do not over-eat, eat McDonald's (or other fast food places), or other unhealthy foods, in large quantities." "And usually when I eat at McDonald's I order the Big and Tasty Super-sized." ". . I eat this type of food rarely and regardless of what I eat I work out." Simply because I said I eat the Big and Tasty Super-sized (when I even do eat there -- see above quote, as it is a rarity; also, stop being so intolerable) doesn't mean I eat "McDonald's in large quantities." Why don't you re-read everything I just posted, which I conveniently bolded for you this time in hopes that you might grasp it. | ||
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bburn
United States1039 Posts
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Canada6140 Posts
i dont remember your post being like that, or being underlined, but it doesnt say you edited it, and i would hate to think some admin is helping you be gay, so ill let this one slide so you never overeat and never ate mcdonalds very frequently. god for you. mcdonalds isnt targetting you and exploiting you and maximizing u. believe it or not, mcdonalds has regular customers. and i would like to think that most of those customers did not enter into that arrangement completely by their own circumstance; they were bombarded with advertising, found mcdonalds to fit into their busy schedule, and wow, mcdonalds is so close to them and buys the land driving smaller companies out of business etc. people know the shit is "bad for them", but they dont think it's addictive. imagine if something that was marketted to you, that you used because of your circumstance, was addictive and the company knew it and kept this from the public, even tweaked it to maximize addictiveness and try to advertise to get people into it? you dont think they are liable at all? you want a world where giant companies are trying to do this to everyone at every turn? just because you have nice routines and habits doesnt mean everyone has them. many "fatties" learned bad eating habits as children or have a different chemical balance than you. so you are being an asshole, blaming people for having a different developmental environment and/or different genes in many cases. it is very mean. just because you are not fat does not mean that you could overcome what every fat person must to become like you. | ||
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[CS]Pablo
Brazil338 Posts
On October 16 2004 02:45 Art_Of_Rizzoni wrote: Has anybody thought about the cultural aspect of MacD? I mean, i think there's something basically wrong with being able to buy the same crap all over the world like that. Think about it, the tendensy is everywere with coca cola and seven elleven to. It's called monoculture and I think it's a lot scarier than fat americans. Thats why i boycott MacD, 7/11, and CocaCola company. International bastards with no business morals. I mean come on, we got people from singapore and Finalnd discussing what the different product costs, I mean WTF... And I i think maybe the diffuculty in boycotting CocaCola company is almost a reason to do in itself. EVERTHING is CocaCola company, it's like everywhere and it's slowly but surely taking my national identity away from me. Pluss they make americans and an increasing amount of norwegians fat, lazy and passive. Also, check out the commersials from a critical point of view, they all say: "Buy crap, be happy!" or "Buy crap, get pussy!" Comments? No, I'm not a commie. Have you wondered that we (from all over the world) are here in this forum mainly because of one of these "international bastards" and one of their "monoculture" products? | ||
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TLKiD
China1136 Posts
On October 16 2004 06:01 wheretogo wrote: I dunno why chinese like McDonalds so much. u do, we dont thx | ||
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Rayzorblade
United States1172 Posts
You certainly must be fat. You seem like the type of person (from reading your poor post; poor in argument and supporting details for it) who would support suing McDonald's for "making them fat." And to make things more comic, you claim that the underlines weren't there before! Oh an administrator must be helping me win an argument against you! I don't need an administrators help, or anyone else's, to make an ass out of you -- you are doing that quite well yourself. I was pretty civilized in addressing your responses, but you seem bent on demonstrating both your lack of intelligence and manners. First, your argument lacks no support simply because it is all based on your theory and opinion. There are seven -- read that, seven -- fast-food resturaunts on my way to work, each conveniently located within a five minute drive of my work, yet I maintain a healthy diet. Hmm, why? Because while although I know that it is easy to just eat out at these places, I'd rather live longer and therefore have taken initiative. I'm stating an obvious and clinically sounds fact: a healthy lifestyle and diet are the road to longevity. This is proven in medical studies everywhere! (Of course, this is not including those obese people with Thyroid problems or other clinically problematic weight issues. And no, over-eating is not a valid excuse, i..e, "Omg I just had to eat those three hamburgers because if I don't I just go crazy!!!!11oneoen!!11"). You're saying that simply because someone fell into habits, or haven't developed them, or wants to eat conveniently from the nearest joint, they therefore can be excused from being a beached whale. This is just another form of passing the buck. With your reasoning, you're saying that any company who sells a substance, addictive or not, (alcohol, for instance) must be held accountable for the repercussions of said substance. That's like saying because Budweisers sells beer, it must be liable for the millions of drunk driving incidences that occur every year. Certainly, they must be the ones choosing to drink and get behind the wheel! Right? RIGHT?! Your reasoning is illogical and lacks no support whatsoever. Furthermore, you chose to insult me by calling me an as-hole and telling me f-ck-you. I almost felt inclined not to read past that first insult, but I thought you might have something interesting to say. Unfortunately, I found you didn't really have anything except your opinion and conspiracy theories about these giant congolmerates bent on making you a fatass. Spar with me again when you actually have the intelligence to do so. Until then, arrivaderci. | ||
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Liquid`Daaman
Sweden1225 Posts
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RebiT
Canada46 Posts
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phiwha
United States158 Posts
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HowitZer
United States1610 Posts
On October 16 2004 11:00 pooper-scooper wrote: Problem is that it is much easier to get inexpensive food that is bad for you quickly than food that is good for you. There are more subways than mcdonalds so it's easier to go to subway and it's pretty damn cheap and pretty healthy. Also, the cheapest way to eat is to buy and prepare your own food. You can buy stuff in bulk and eat extremely cheaply if you wanted to. So I don't think that's a reason for people eating bad food. | ||
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Minam_Lee
Korea (South)59 Posts
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Manifesto7
Osaka27149 Posts
On October 16 2004 22:52 Rayzorblade wrote: STIMEY d okgm fish You certainly must be fat. You seem like the type of person (from reading your poor post; poor in argument and supporting details for it) who would support suing McDonald's for "making them fat." And to make things more comic, you claim that the underlines weren't there before! Oh an administrator must be helping me win an argument against you! I don't need an administrators help, or anyone else's, to make an ass out of you -- you are doing that quite well yourself. I was pretty civilized in addressing your responses, but you seem bent on demonstrating both your lack of intelligence and manners. First, your argument lacks no support simply because it is all based on your theory and opinion. There are seven -- read that, seven -- fast-food resturaunts on my way to work, each conveniently located within a five minute drive of my work, yet I maintain a healthy diet. Hmm, why? Because while although I know that it is easy to just eat out at these places, I'd rather live longer and therefore have taken initiative. I'm stating an obvious and clinically sounds fact: a healthy lifestyle and diet are the road to longevity. This is proven in medical studies everywhere! (Of course, this is not including those obese people with Thyroid problems or other clinically problematic weight issues. And no, over-eating is not a valid excuse, i..e, "Omg I just had to eat those three hamburgers because if I don't I just go crazy!!!!11oneoen!!11"). You're saying that simply because someone fell into habits, or haven't developed them, or wants to eat conveniently from the nearest joint, they therefore can be excused from being a beached whale. This is just another form of passing the buck. With your reasoning, you're saying that any company who sells a substance, addictive or not, (alcohol, for instance) must be held accountable for the repercussions of said substance. That's like saying because Budweisers sells beer, it must be liable for the millions of drunk driving incidences that occur every year. Certainly, they must be the ones choosing to drink and get behind the wheel! Right? RIGHT?! Your reasoning is illogical and lacks no support whatsoever. Furthermore, you chose to insult me by calling me an as-hole and telling me f-ck-you. I almost felt inclined not to read past that first insult, but I thought you might have something interesting to say. Unfortunately, I found you didn't really have anything except your opinion and conspiracy theories about these giant congolmerates bent on making you a fatass. Spar with me again when you actually have the intelligence to do so. Until then, arrivaderci. You are my new favorite poster. | ||
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Minam_Lee
Korea (South)59 Posts
On October 15 2004 18:22 Manifesto7 wrote: Yeah, it really amazed me. McDonalds truely is the devil. Salt, sugar and fat are the only things that make up that garbage. I spent three years working in that dump, and I saw things that turned me off that food forever. Thre real eyeopener is the psychological aspect fo the food. If I do eat McD's, I really do feel better for about thirty minutes, and then I hit a real wall. I know there was a topic earlier about this movie, but it really is something that anyone that eats that food should eat. what about hungry jacks or buger king | ||
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previousemperor
Canada271 Posts
On October 16 2004 21:10 Rayzorblade wrote: The point is, I eat this type of food rarely and work out regardless of what I'm eating. As I said, healthy lifestyle and diet are the key. i agree , i think as long as ur lifestyle and diet is good , I mean its not as much as the food you eat rather the portion you eat , of course foods with high sodium , sugar ect. can't be too good for you but it also vary's depending on the portion and how you maintain ur metablism (working out and such) | ||
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
If I want to get something to eat without cooking sth I call the local chinese/vietnamese or get a pizza It's more tasty for me and chinese/vietnamese is far better than anything else I love asian food | ||
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
2373 Posts
Even if your not eating healthy you can eat less than is enough to make you a fat ass. | ||
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PcBanger
United States6 Posts
1. Get self control 2. Think for yourself (if someone ask do you want to supersize this to jumbo economy size...you can say no you fatbitch!) 3. Lets have sex, just DONT tell my friends.  DOH! | ||
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mindspike
Canada1902 Posts
just as people should be responsible for their actions companies should be responsible as well why should companies be allowed to do whatever they want to make money? keeping big companies in check is a good thing | ||
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baal
10541 Posts
On October 18 2004 01:20 PcBanger wrote: 3. Lets have sex, just DONT tell my friends. DOH!HAHAHAAHA | ||
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phiwha
United States158 Posts
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FlameBagMCGEE
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Triton
Canada258 Posts
Of course with any side there are going to be people twisting the facts to suit their position. I just know that for the past 2 or 3 years I have been surviving on McDonalds breakfasts, Wendys lunches, and then a decent meal at a bar or something in the afternoon. I am pretty sluggish and tired a lot of the time, but that could be because I smoke a lot of weed as well (usually feel worst if i stop smoking weed for a while tho, maybe the secret to eating fast food is to get high when doing it). | ||
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Rayzorblade
United States1172 Posts
On October 18 2004 01:22 mindspike wrote: razorblade dude just as people should be responsible for their actions companies should be responsible as well why should companies be allowed to do whatever they want to make money? keeping big companies in check is a good thing Companies aren't allowed to do whatever they want, but since when was it illegal to sell a greasy hamburger? You seem to be saying that companies should not be allowed to sell unhealthy food (food that consumers could make themselves anyway) or advertise like any other company simply because they "target" us, the consumers. I really don't understand this line of thought at all. Companies will continue to sell this food as long as there is a mass to cater too, the same way any business will survive. As long as there are fatasses in the world who want to eat this junk, companies will survive. So who is the real problem here? -- the companies or the consumers? You should watch "Super-size Me," the documentary on, in no polite words, fatasses. There is a statistic in it that is very humorous and ironic -- I may not be quoting it correctly, but apparently people spend more money on dieting pills and wonders than on actual health-related things, such as exercise memberships, etc.. What does this tell you about the consumers? Rather than live a healthy lifestyle, they want to do "whatever they want" and hope later that some "magic dietary pill" will help them lose all the weight. Just like that. What does that tell you? The fact alone speaks in defense of my argument. We blame massacres like the Columbine shooting on violent T.V. programs. We blame the degradation of today's youth on music. We blame fast-food companies for our growing obesity. We blame everything on something else. This is just the kind of degeneration President Truman warned about where on his desk, he hung that bold sign: The Buck Stops Here We alone have the decision of a healthy lifestyle. | ||
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Rayzorblade
United States1172 Posts
Thanks! =) | ||
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Canada6140 Posts
On October 16 2004 22:52 Rayzorblade wrote: STIMEY d okgm fish You certainly must be fat. You seem like the type of person (from reading your poor post; poor in argument and supporting details for it) who would support suing McDonald's for "making them fat." And to make things more comic, you claim that the underlines weren't there before! Oh an administrator must be helping me win an argument against you! I don't need an administrators help, or anyone else's, to make an ass out of you -- you are doing that quite well yourself. at least i can admit it when it seems like i made a mistake. i wonder if you would say i must be black if i disagreed with some good ol negro bashing? i dont need to prove to you that i'm not fat. that is definitely beside any argument u could have chosen to make in the above paragraph instead of just putting out some blanket generalizations and wasting the time of anyone who read it. fortunately most people seem too stupid to care. I was pretty civilized in addressing your responses, but you seem bent on demonstrating both your lack of intelligence and manners again, some nice generalizations ... if you say so. [/quote] First, your argument lacks no support simply because it is all based on your theory and opinion. There are seven -- read that, seven -- fast-food resturaunts on my way to work, each conveniently located within a five minute drive of my work, yet I maintain a healthy diet. why does it matter how many there are? one or seven. same thing. second, why do YOU matter so much? again, you seem to assume that everyone could be like you if they just "tried" as hard as you or otherwise were as inherently "good" as you. you take the nature/nurture of your existence for granted and blame others for not being identical to you (as usual). Hmm, why? Because while although I know that it is easy to just eat out at these places, I'd rather live longer and therefore have taken initiative. oh yes, other people just fail to make that choice, clearly. the dumbasses, wanting to cut their life short and all. if only someone would tell them! I'm stating an obvious and clinically sounds fact: a healthy lifestyle and diet are the road to longevity. This is proven in medical studies everywhere! did i say otherwise? who are you arguing against? more filler. wait we're through like half your post so far. where's the good part everyone's raving about? (Of course, this is not including those obese people with Thyroid problems or other clinically problematic weight issues. And no, over-eating is not a valid excuse, i..e, "Omg I just had to eat those three hamburgers because if I don't I just go crazy!!!!11oneoen!!11"). You're saying that simply because someone fell into habits, or haven't developed them, or wants to eat conveniently from the nearest joint, they therefore can be excused from being a beached whale. This is just another form of passing the buck. i didnt say anyone can be excused. no where did i say that whatsoever. to the contrary, i merely object to you bashing people for being caught in habits "inferior" to your own "superior health." if you like to kick people while they are down so much i suggest you take your business to an AA meeting. With your reasoning, you're saying that any company who sells a substance, addictive or not, (alcohol, for instance) must be held accountable for the repercussions of said substance. That's like saying because Budweisers sells beer, it must be liable for the millions of drunk driving incidences that occur every year. Certainly, they must be the ones choosing to drink and get behind the wheel! Right? RIGHT?! wrong. with my reasoning, companies who find out a product is harmful and addictive, intentionally maximize the addictiveness through engineering and marketting strategies, then keep these harmful facts from the public are actually intentionally harming the public and can be held liable. you are ... conveniently imagining that i said things that i didnt, oversimplifying what i said, and in some cases, flat out responding to things that i didnt said. no wonder you have so many fans. Your reasoning is illogical and lacks no support whatsoever. Furthermore, you chose to insult me by calling me an as-hole and telling me f-ck-you. I almost felt inclined not to read past that first insult, but I thought you might have something interesting to say. Unfortunately, I found you didn't really have anything except your opinion and conspiracy theories about these giant congolmerates bent on making you a fatass. Spar with me again when you actually have the intelligence to do so. Until then, arrivaderci. more nonsense. q.e.d. Rayzorblade You certainly suck serious ass. | ||
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Rayzorblade
United States1172 Posts
I wasn't "fat" bashing. I'm not fat-bashing. All these excuses people make for their obesity simply amuses and irritates me enormously. In the end, you take the decision to eat, not the companies. For Jesus Christ's sake, some people really act like this shit is Cocaine or something. I reallly love how you continue to blame "The Companies." I also wasn't aware I have a "fan base," but if people recognize a well-thought out retort, then so be it. I also didn't make up anything -- people can look back at the thread if they so care. In my case, I really just don't care. I was done with you when you stooped to the childish "Fcuk you" and "A-hole." [Edit, and as another note: People can find out the ingredients of a McDonald's hamburger anywhere -- you know, for all those "harmful" substances that the evil corporations like them are hiding from the public eye, lololol.] | ||
Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
http://www.mcdonalds.ca/en/food/nutrition.aspx http://www.mcdonalds.ca/en/food/calculator.aspx It gives you the nutrition values of all of their (Canadian) food items. This includes quantities such as calories, saturated fat, trans fat, and sodium, as well as % of daily recommended intake values for various quantities that people are often concerned about. If anyone happens to have any links to nutrition guides for other fast food restaurants or for typical chinese food dishes (since I've recently discovered a tasty chinese food place to buy lunch at -- I eat fast food 5 days a week for lunch -- and I would like to know if their food is likely to be high in saturated and trans fat or very high in sodium), then I would really appreciate it if you could give them to me . | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
Maybe if Rayzorblade's arguments were ludicrous and his attitude careless and egotistic, then I could see how being disrespectful to a horrible debater like that could be justifyable. But Rayzor's posts have been quite the opposite: I don't think his arguments are unreasonable, and he has conducted himself in a very self-controlled and mature fashion. Maybe his position is wrong, but the fact remains that he has been neither stupid nor irrational nor indecent in his posts. Therefore, I believe he deserves a good level of respect: a level of respect that is mountains higher than what Stimey gives him in his retorts. Furthermore, Stimey is therefore totally out of place to be spewing insults and other filth at Rayzor. Of course, this is not a one-time incident but rather one of many. Stimey consistently shows anyone he disagrees with total and utter disrespect on these forums -- regardless of whether that individual warrants it by their own incompetence, or whether their behaviour is deserving of respect and consideration. He has been warned to stop; he has not stopped. If he cannot learn to show respect for others even when he is in disagreement with them -- which appears to be the case -- then I do not think that he should be allowed to continue posting here and bringing the entire forum level down. Rayzor does not deserve to be treated like this, Pat did not deserve to be treated like this, and I'm sure that if Stimey is allowed to stay, then many others will end up being treated in the same derogatory and ridiculous way. | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
I also wasn't aware I have a "fan base," you do now. Anyways, I think companies and consumers are both responsible for this. I believe consumers are mostly to blame because the decision to go to McDonalds and purchase that Big Mac is ultimately their decision, not McDonalds. Im willing to bet everyone in America and Canada (51st state) with half a brain knows that McDonalds is unhealthy for them (Anyone who does think McDonalds is healthy prolly thinks 1+1= 11 so they are generally hopeless anyways). I also blame the McDonalds for their continuous mind numbing advertising about how good their product is. Im sick and tired of these McDonalds commercials week after week trying to make their image look good and to a certain degree brainwash us. Believe it or not, they wouldn't be spending millions and millions of dollars on advertising if it didn't bring back even more money. People are being subconsciously brainwashed whether they like it or not. For example, whats the first name that pops into your head when I say the word "A Razor Blade"? Mine is Gillette. The last time I walked into a pharmaprix looking for a razor blade I bought a Gillette one. Thanks to advertising (Gillette Starleague), they have successfully bought a new customer (me) and I didnt even consciously know it. Gillette would have never spent a dime advertising this OGN league if they new I wouldnt be effected by their advertising. Corporations know full well of what they are doing, greed is what corrupts people into doing whatever they can, no matter if the social/environmental effects are negative, to make more money. But again, its ultimately your choice to go into McDonalds. EDIT: Even tabacco companies. Look who sponsors the grand prix races all over the world? Players, Marlboro, etc. They put their name wherever they can to make sure you see it. So the next time you walk into a depanneur, you are subconsciously thinking of their product. | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
i just went back and checked it and he's nuked. | ||
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PanoRaMa
United States5069 Posts
On October 18 2004 20:27 Tien wrote: Mine is Gillette. The last time I walked into a pharmaprix looking for a razor blade I bought a Gillette one. Thanks to advertising (Gillette Starleague), they have successfully bought a new customer (me) and I didnt even consciously know it. Gillette would have never spent a dime advertising this OGN league if they new I wouldnt be effected by their advertising. haha! exactly~ in korea when ShoCK saw my gilette products (mach3 turbo, shaving gel, and aftershave), he asked "because of ogn starleague?" and I said "of course~" | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
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AK-Nemesis
2005 Posts
your posts made me feel hot, really. those were some sexy posts! oh yeah! give the man the vods!! this is really contributing. i heard caffine's addictive, let's make it illegal. | ||
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XG3
United States544 Posts
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baal
10541 Posts
On October 18 2004 23:53 XG3 wrote: i wonder if stimey is OrangeTerran in disguise sometimes i do too | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13005 Posts
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ssregitoss
Turkey241 Posts
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phiwha
United States158 Posts
On October 19 2004 03:01 ssregitoss wrote: i am a vegaterian. dont eat red.i only eat broiler.i have a broiler comp. ... wtf does that mean | ||
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baal
10541 Posts
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HellBoy
Norway138 Posts
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UniversalMoron
Finland426 Posts
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[ErOs]~InCoGniTo
Italy513 Posts
really trash food. 100% agree with the things you say rayzor well said. Ciao | ||
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no.1
516 Posts
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no.1
516 Posts
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dsh
United States879 Posts
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Commander{+}
United States2878 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13005 Posts
Im sure there would be a permanent ban stimey petition to counter you | ||
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Ceril
Sweden1343 Posts
On October 18 2004 23:47 AK-Nemesis wrote: i heard caffine's addictive, let's make it illegal. You sick twisted bastard, I hope I hear loads of sarcasm, irony in thoose words else I'll soap your mouth with a big mac, Illegal and caffine does not belong in the same sentance, not even in the same universe. Darn, just realized what I typed But on with the real thing: Commercial do effect us greatly as we know. But by knowing that commercial will effect us we also make it more powerful in its message because the brain actually takes note of it as something more highly ordered and this binds us. <- Or have I mixed things up again? Thoose more skilled in the arts of psychology > me ^^ | ||
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
I dont feel effects of commercials. Not in a way that I can't resist buying a thing I saw a comercial for. I'd rather NOT buy something which is promoted TOO heavily, because it annoys the hell out of me. | ||
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NeO)PhOeNiX
Canada250 Posts
On October 15 2004 23:26 nvnplatypus wrote: A lot of Chinese food is just as bad for you as McD's The countries like Japan that eat a lot of fish are probably best off. You're an idiot. | ||
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NoName
United States1558 Posts
I'm a sucker for food shown in commercials... The whole movie to me was a 1 hour long commercial to go to McD. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13005 Posts
Weird. The thing that shocked me most about the movie, was the sheer volume and size consumed in the States. I thought we were bad in Australia, but we are nowhere near like McD in the US. | ||
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Maynard
United States889 Posts
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