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Hello i am BritishBeef
For a while i have had what some would concider a very unhealthy obsession.... I am fasinated about serial killers and to be be blunt how these people work. I will not refer to them as psycho's (although most serial killers are Psychopaths as far as im aware) or crazy (because that is a state of opinion from ones perspective)
How did it start??
Well at first i was thinking that it was when i was searching youtube and stumbled across a serial killer video, but now when i have a hard think back.
When i was younger we started learning about jack the ripper in primary school.. (are they for real lol..) so that was my first taste of the serial killer psychology
For a while i have had what some would concider a very unhealthy obsession.... I am fasinated about serial killers and to be be blunt how these people work. I will not refer to them as psycho's (although most serial killers are Psychopaths as far as im aware) or crazy (because that is a state of opinion from ones perspective)
How did it start??
Well at first i was thinking that it was when i was searching youtube and stumbled across a serial killer video, but now when i have a hard think back.
When i was younger we started learning about jack the ripper in primary school.. (are they for real lol..) so that was my first taste of the serial killer psychology
Thread Rules
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1. CONTRIBUTE!! seriously iv searched many hours for decent documentarys and i love them please help a brother out and hook up some links to the thread
2. Please check through the thread to see if any names or documentarys have been posted already (If the name has been posted please could you provide either a diffrent documentary .. yes i love to watch diffrent perspectives on the same thing.. :D)
3. Give it a chance seriously it sounds so weird but these "people" if they can be referred to as that .. are very intresting why they do the things they do.. some appear to have no reason at all that to me is the most intresting.
4. DONT DERAIL THE THREAD..have a constructive arguement
I personally would not concider Hitler as a serial killer because as far as im aware he didn't go out and "kill" the people himself he also had a far more serious agenda
That is a example of me defending why i personally wouldn't put hitler .. saddam hussein and other dictators on the list but technically speaking they are "serial killers".
5. Please only post content you personally vouch for! everyvideo i have posted in this thread i will have watched (more then likely more then once) all i ask is the same amount of care if your suggesting
6. You only are required to post part#1 of each video this is mostly becuase i fully think that EVERYONE on TL is able to find the next part of the video without help if they so wish, this is mostly becuase i can forsee it taking me a very long time to add each link when in reality i feel it is not needed at all.
2. Please check through the thread to see if any names or documentarys have been posted already (If the name has been posted please could you provide either a diffrent documentary .. yes i love to watch diffrent perspectives on the same thing.. :D)
3. Give it a chance seriously it sounds so weird but these "people" if they can be referred to as that .. are very intresting why they do the things they do.. some appear to have no reason at all that to me is the most intresting.
4. DONT DERAIL THE THREAD..have a constructive arguement
I personally would not concider Hitler as a serial killer because as far as im aware he didn't go out and "kill" the people himself he also had a far more serious agenda
That is a example of me defending why i personally wouldn't put hitler .. saddam hussein and other dictators on the list but technically speaking they are "serial killers".
5. Please only post content you personally vouch for! everyvideo i have posted in this thread i will have watched (more then likely more then once) all i ask is the same amount of care if your suggesting
6. You only are required to post part#1 of each video this is mostly becuase i fully think that EVERYONE on TL is able to find the next part of the video without help if they so wish, this is mostly becuase i can forsee it taking me a very long time to add each link when in reality i feel it is not needed at all.
The "Good stuff"
Well ill start with just a minor "history lesson"
Serial killers have obviously been around for possibly since the start of humanity for whatever reason a person can be a serial killer...this isn't the topic of debate !
Facts about serial killers.
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1. Most serial killers are white males between the ages of 20-35 years. However, in recent years we have seen an increase of serial killers from other races.
2. There have been more serial killers hunting and killing in the western part of the United States, such as California and Washington. The United States is the leading country for serial killers (from reported cases).
3. “Vlad the Impaler” was the real life “Dracula” during the fifteenth century. Vlad Dracula wasn’t a “typical” serial killer that we have come to know today, but he was known to vanquish his enemies, both real and imagined, with the most unspeakable sadism and hideous creativity for death. The stories surrounding Vlad has been perceived as be both myth and legend, but it is estimated that Vlad killed some 20,000 men, women and children - the amount of people he killed varies from anywhere between 20,000 to 500,000.
4. Serial killers are often quite intelligent with an IQ of above average or “bright normal”.
5. During a ten-year period, the small coastal town of Santa Cruz, California (population 33,000 residents at the time) had four serial killers who roamed and murdered throughout the area and county. In 1970, John Linely Frazier killed 5 residents and was commuted to life in prison. In 1973, Herbert Mullin was convicted of 10 murders and sentenced to life in prison. He later told authorities he heard “die songs” and messages to kill human sacrifices in order to prevent earthquakes. In 1973, Edmund Kemper “Co-ed Killer” was convicted and given 8 concurrent life sentences with the possibility of parole. Finally in 1981, David Carpenter “Trailside Killer” was convicted of 2 Santa Cruz County murders and in a separate trial in Marin County was convicted of 5 more murders. He was sentenced to death in the gas chamber in 1984.
6. As children, serial killers usually suffer a significant amount of abuse, sometimes psychological, sometimes physical, and often sexual. Many times it’s a combination of all three abuses. This brutal mistreatment helps to instill in them the profound feelings of humiliation and helplessness, which is then inflicted upon their later victims.
7. Many serial killers have an insatiable interest in deviant sexuality, obsessions with fetishism, voyeurism, and violent photography.
8. Serial killers are not considered to be insane, but rather they are considered to exhibit psychopathic behavior. They are unable to feel remorse, guilt, empathy, and lack impulse control.
9. The Behavioral Science Unit (BSU) was established in 1972 at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Virginia. It has helped to established a firm understanding through training, research, consultation activities, techniques, tactics, and procedures that have become a staple of behavioral-based programs that support the law enforcement, intelligence, and military communities. The Behavioral Science Unit is here where the term “serial killer” was coined and where criminal investigative analysis and “profiling” were developed.
10. There have been women serial killers throughout history even before Aileen Wuornos who was executed in 2002. Wuornos was the Florida hooker who shot seven male motorists during a 12-month period between 1989-1990. During the 1800s, Jane Toppan “The Jolly Psychopath” used her skills as a nurse to murder. Also during the 1800s, Mary Ann Cotton murdered an estimated 23 people during a 12-month period. She became known as the most prolific serial killer in English history murdering three husbands, ten children, five stepchildren, a sister-in-law, and an unwanted suitor. Nannie Doss who was dubbed the “Giggling Granny” murdered for profit and money by mixing poison into whiskey, coffee, or stewed prunes. Between 1929 and 1953, Doss had murdered four husbands.
11. Joel Norris Ph.D. is the founding member of the International Committee of Neuroscientists to Study Episodic Aggression. Norris explains that the serial killer’s addiction to crime is also an addiction to specific patterns of violence that ultimately becomes their way of life. He suggests that there are seven key phases to the ritual of serial killing: aura phase, trolling phase, wooing phase, capture, murder, totem phase, and depression phase.
12. Criminologists have referred to the “serial killer’s comfort zone” as how most serial killers will commit their crimes relatively close to home and that they prefer to hunt for their victims at places they are familiar with, an area where they feel the most confident and in control, best spots to capture victims, and the quickest escape routes. All of these conditions generally will link a killer close to home or a familiar area they know well.
13. This statement makes you reassess the general term “serial killer”, what makes them tick, and why they commit these heinous crimes. According to the research conducted by Joel Norris Ph.D., he states, “The half-dream/half-waking state that mixes memories and terrors with reality is a true episodic state for the serial killer with a limbic dysfunction...”
2. There have been more serial killers hunting and killing in the western part of the United States, such as California and Washington. The United States is the leading country for serial killers (from reported cases).
3. “Vlad the Impaler” was the real life “Dracula” during the fifteenth century. Vlad Dracula wasn’t a “typical” serial killer that we have come to know today, but he was known to vanquish his enemies, both real and imagined, with the most unspeakable sadism and hideous creativity for death. The stories surrounding Vlad has been perceived as be both myth and legend, but it is estimated that Vlad killed some 20,000 men, women and children - the amount of people he killed varies from anywhere between 20,000 to 500,000.
4. Serial killers are often quite intelligent with an IQ of above average or “bright normal”.
5. During a ten-year period, the small coastal town of Santa Cruz, California (population 33,000 residents at the time) had four serial killers who roamed and murdered throughout the area and county. In 1970, John Linely Frazier killed 5 residents and was commuted to life in prison. In 1973, Herbert Mullin was convicted of 10 murders and sentenced to life in prison. He later told authorities he heard “die songs” and messages to kill human sacrifices in order to prevent earthquakes. In 1973, Edmund Kemper “Co-ed Killer” was convicted and given 8 concurrent life sentences with the possibility of parole. Finally in 1981, David Carpenter “Trailside Killer” was convicted of 2 Santa Cruz County murders and in a separate trial in Marin County was convicted of 5 more murders. He was sentenced to death in the gas chamber in 1984.
6. As children, serial killers usually suffer a significant amount of abuse, sometimes psychological, sometimes physical, and often sexual. Many times it’s a combination of all three abuses. This brutal mistreatment helps to instill in them the profound feelings of humiliation and helplessness, which is then inflicted upon their later victims.
7. Many serial killers have an insatiable interest in deviant sexuality, obsessions with fetishism, voyeurism, and violent photography.
8. Serial killers are not considered to be insane, but rather they are considered to exhibit psychopathic behavior. They are unable to feel remorse, guilt, empathy, and lack impulse control.
9. The Behavioral Science Unit (BSU) was established in 1972 at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Virginia. It has helped to established a firm understanding through training, research, consultation activities, techniques, tactics, and procedures that have become a staple of behavioral-based programs that support the law enforcement, intelligence, and military communities. The Behavioral Science Unit is here where the term “serial killer” was coined and where criminal investigative analysis and “profiling” were developed.
10. There have been women serial killers throughout history even before Aileen Wuornos who was executed in 2002. Wuornos was the Florida hooker who shot seven male motorists during a 12-month period between 1989-1990. During the 1800s, Jane Toppan “The Jolly Psychopath” used her skills as a nurse to murder. Also during the 1800s, Mary Ann Cotton murdered an estimated 23 people during a 12-month period. She became known as the most prolific serial killer in English history murdering three husbands, ten children, five stepchildren, a sister-in-law, and an unwanted suitor. Nannie Doss who was dubbed the “Giggling Granny” murdered for profit and money by mixing poison into whiskey, coffee, or stewed prunes. Between 1929 and 1953, Doss had murdered four husbands.
11. Joel Norris Ph.D. is the founding member of the International Committee of Neuroscientists to Study Episodic Aggression. Norris explains that the serial killer’s addiction to crime is also an addiction to specific patterns of violence that ultimately becomes their way of life. He suggests that there are seven key phases to the ritual of serial killing: aura phase, trolling phase, wooing phase, capture, murder, totem phase, and depression phase.
12. Criminologists have referred to the “serial killer’s comfort zone” as how most serial killers will commit their crimes relatively close to home and that they prefer to hunt for their victims at places they are familiar with, an area where they feel the most confident and in control, best spots to capture victims, and the quickest escape routes. All of these conditions generally will link a killer close to home or a familiar area they know well.
13. This statement makes you reassess the general term “serial killer”, what makes them tick, and why they commit these heinous crimes. According to the research conducted by Joel Norris Ph.D., he states, “The half-dream/half-waking state that mixes memories and terrors with reality is a true episodic state for the serial killer with a limbic dysfunction...”
America's "first" serial killer
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H.H Holmes
Dr. Henry Howard Holmes, was one of the first documented American serial killers in the modern sense of the term
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._H._Holmes
Dr. Henry Howard Holmes, was one of the first documented American serial killers in the modern sense of the term
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._H._Holmes
The most famous serial killer in history
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Who i concider to be the worst serial killer in history largely due to there methods
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Who i concider to the be the "Most forgotton serial killer" those who played diablo 2 could very well know who im talking about although it wouldn't suprise me if many of you didn't even have a clue that the line from diablo was based on a hungarian women.
Then "hidden" throughout history
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Recent serial killers (within the last 50 years)
My personal favorite documentary mabye because the guy was british and a cannibal (how i enjoy thinking of what must go through the minds of these people while doing this crazy task of eating someone else)
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Now his american counter-part
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Known as the Toy-Box Killer since he used to keep women in his "toy box"
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Did you ever wonder where storys like "texas chainsaw massacre" came from?? Well wonder no-more i present to you the orginal leather face
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Bind tourture kill, A media name for a killer who adopted this as his method taunting the police then silence... for over 10 years and then he started taunting the police again.. oh how i love technology
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So this is just a starter im going to post a ton more. I have watched hundreds of documentaries and will update regular this was just to get you warmed up.
Feel free to ask me anything or to post anything.
*Sorry for my bad grammar spelling*
Subject to start the debate off after watching jack the ripper documentary could someone tell me if they think the american was the serial killer? and if so why, i think he was everything just seemed to fit
