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clementdudu
France819 Posts
On November 24 2010 06:18 smallblacksun wrote: Remember that most of those 20 million are starving, and that there are hundreds of thousands of political prisoners in internment camps. the guys suggestion was that we should completely stop giving them food,and wait for half dead people to revolt against the government. It's not me you should quote;) | ||
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GP
United States1056 Posts
On November 24 2010 06:08 Surrealz wrote: There is alot of patriotism and nationalism in the hearts of North Koreans (as it should of course, all of us love our own turf), so its pretty ignorant to just say that its just the government that is bad. Wow, you're pretty hypocritical to call anyone ignorant. I wasn't aware patriotism makes you a bad person. They have pride in their lands, history, and where they come from, let them starve! | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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SolidusR
United States217 Posts
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smallblacksun
United States12 Posts
On November 24 2010 06:20 clementdudu wrote: the guys suggestion was that we should completely stop giving them food,and wait for half dead people to revolt against the government. It's not me you should quote;) Apologies, I misunderstood your post. | ||
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sikyon
Canada1045 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
rok can only do so much and anything major can lead to full scale war, involving powerful nations. the only sure way to calm this situation and future incident is for china to do something about it instead of sitting back and tell everyone to calm down. it really sickens me how china takes no fcking responsibility to what is going on all the while its because of them that dprk is able to do what they're doing. | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
On November 24 2010 06:20 GP wrote: Wow, you're pretty hypocritical to call anyone ignorant. I wasn't aware patriotism makes you a bad person. They have pride in their lands, history, and where they come from, let them starve! their people have the power. their government sucks ass, they can face it and start a revolution, or they can deny it and be punished for it. if they are not happy with what their government does, they should do something against it, just like every single other country on the whole planet has done at least once or twice in the history. and if their government represents such a large amount of people over there that the revolters wouldn't be able to do anything, then this is a classic case where an outside country would have to liberate the country and let them form a new government. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On November 24 2010 06:06 clementdudu wrote: doing what's in place for years,with one dead every two years. Yeah i know im crazy,i value more 20 000 000 lives of innocent NKorean than one life of a soldier ready for battle. The system in Nkorea will eventually collapse,no need to force that by killing millions of innocent. Hmmm... not what I meant to say | ||
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
On November 24 2010 06:18 smallblacksun wrote: Remember that most of those 20 million are starving, and that there are hundreds of thousands of political prisoners in internment camps. Remember also the huge population centers within strike distance of North Korea. Seoul is within artillery range. The rest of Korea and Japan is within missile range. North Korea has conventional, nuclear, and chemical strategic weapons, and will not be abashed to use them against civilian targets. Our missile defense systems have been fairly effective against SCUD type missiles like NK has, but not 100% effective(Gulf War estimates range from 50-70%, while Iraqi freedom estimates are between 70-100). | ||
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Kinzee
United States23 Posts
On November 24 2010 06:08 Surrealz wrote: There is alot of patriotism and nationalism in the hearts of North Koreans (as it should of course, all of us love our own turf), so its pretty ignorant to just say that its just the government that is bad. In my opinion the most effective course of action is the continued isolation of NK, as well as continued sanctions by the UN. Its a messy situation, sucks that the philosophy of these people leading NK are centuries behind the western world. It's really not their fault. Their extremely communist government controls every aspect of their lives, down to where they can live, what they can eat, and most importantly, what information they're taught. When the government tells you that you're starving because the evil Western Empires are blocking all international commerce for no apparent reason and that you must constantly live in fear because any day they might decide to come kill your family, and you have no contrary information whatsoever... you'd cling to the scraps of food and hope the government throws your way as well. | ||
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GP
United States1056 Posts
On November 24 2010 06:20 On_Slaught wrote: I wonder how many more times N. Korea can kill S. Korean military members without any real response. I understand the difference between this situation and any other western nation (which would immediately go to war if either of the recent incidents happened) with the proximity of their capital to the DMZ, but you can't let this go on forever. No one was killed and according to reports, N Korea only attacked after the S Korean military refused to stop operations, which were in contested waters. I refuse to blindly call all N Korean decisions bad simply because the country is run by some pretty questionable people. If it's true that S Korea received requests to stop operations, they could have avoided an entire clusterfuck. This whole thing should have never happened, and there was no need for S Korea to be flexing its dick so close to the N Korean coast. Someone in the S Korean side needs to be held accountable as well. User was warned for this post | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On November 24 2010 06:25 sikyon wrote: China doesn't have the balls to do anything, because they are sitting next to NK and NK has nuclear weapons. If nukes start flying in that area China knows it's going to suffer so it doesn't want to start shit. that makes no sense at all. nk will not nuke china, thats no different than puerto rico nuking USA. all that china has to do is, "no oil, no food, no money until you behave" (well not all but similar) | ||
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
On November 24 2010 06:26 GP wrote: No one was killed and according to reports, N Korea only attacked after the S Korean military refused to stop operations, which were in contested waters. I refuse to blindly call all N Korean decisions bad simply because the country is run by some pretty questionable people. If it's true that S Korea received requests to stop operations, they could have avoided an entire clusterfuck. This whole thing should have never happened, and there was no need for S Korea to be flexing its dick so close to the N Korean coast. Someone in the S Korean side needs to be held accountable as well. ? Two people were killed. Several civilians were injured. The islands are not contested, and were the target of the attacks. | ||
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Reikobi
United States12 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On November 24 2010 06:26 GP wrote: No one was killed and according to reports, N Korea only attacked after the S Korean military refused to stop operations, which were in contested waters. I refuse to blindly call all N Korean decisions bad simply because the country is run by some pretty questionable people. If it's true that S Korea received requests to stop operations, they could have avoided an entire clusterfuck. This whole thing should have never happened, and there was no need for S Korea to be flexing its dick so close to the N Korean coast. Someone in the S Korean side needs to be held accountable as well. 1. Yes people were killed. Dunno where you heard they weren't. 2. They have been doing this same drill for years. The only difference this time is there were no American Marines with the group. Coincidence that they decide to attack now? Also in the same week we learn about their new production facilities? Sure.. 3. N. Korea has no right to request them from stopping these drills in international or S. Korean waters. 4. The response wasn't proportionate if what you say is true. "You are too close to us so we bomb your land." | ||
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Phonics
114 Posts
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FlyingLigerz
United States163 Posts
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Looky
United States1608 Posts
On November 24 2010 02:49 Caphe wrote: What I am worrying rightnow is not there will be a actual war between NK and SK after this incident or not since I believe its not gonna happen. What got me worried is, NK knows that SK and US dont want to go to war with them so they will continue these kind of provoke and harrass and get away with it. This is the way NK's leader show their people how US and SK are afraid of NK and will continue make the people of NK blindly believe in the regime more and more. And that is dangerous. SK will not go to war unless NK invade them first. SK has to much more at the stake to lose than NK. yeah of course if we attack NK its gonna bring china into it. same as anybody who attacks mexico or canada, you will have to deal with the US. | ||
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tieya
United States308 Posts
On November 24 2010 06:30 FlyingLigerz wrote: The best thing we can do is not get involved. WW3 won't happen unless the military powerhouses step in to try to help. If its a civil war, South Korea can easily win. North Korea's military is not as strong as Germany or the Soviet Union's was. Plus, they would not be able to rally support from other neighboring countries. So at worst, this will be a civil war. yes, but north korea has been building nuclear weapons for years and they have plenty of bombs | ||
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