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Uriel_SVK
Profile Joined April 2010
Slovakia427 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 12:49:56
November 23 2010 12:49 GMT
#1141
I am not defending NK here, but why are there so many army excersises near them? It is not the first time something like this happened. If I got an angry, violent, armed neighbour, i wont be runing with a gun around his yard...
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
November 23 2010 12:50 GMT
#1142
#DPRK Twitter gives a little info sometimes.
" military claims their return shelling should have caused considerable #DPRK casualties. No mention in NK state media on that"

Horrible situation.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
maliceee
Profile Joined August 2010
United States634 Posts
November 23 2010 12:51 GMT
#1143
On November 23 2010 21:45 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 21:40 MrHoon wrote:
Also NK is telling their citizens that SK has fired first upon NK, and NK did the right thing by firing at a civilian filled island.

Sometimes I think "do the NKs ever wonder if they're just being fed lies?". Then I ask myself how I know NK fired first.


You have the internet?
gongryong
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1430 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 12:55:26
November 23 2010 12:51 GMT
#1144
On November 23 2010 21:45 John Acton wrote:
gongryong do you mean air sirens?


no. just unofficial alerts through sms and social media
JAEDONG ÜBERBONJWA!
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
November 23 2010 12:52 GMT
#1145
On November 23 2010 21:49 Uriel_SVK wrote:
I am not defending NK here, but why are there so many army excersises near them? It is not the first time something like this happened. If I got an angry, violent, armed neighbour, i wont be runing with a gun around his yard...

Because it has been an unstable zone since the Korean War. Really unstable zone, they are officially at war (but there's a cease fire). For all South Korea know North Korea could attack them at any moment, both sides are on alert at all times.
LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
November 23 2010 12:52 GMT
#1146
I admit I'm getting a little irritated with all of the jokes. People are getting hurt and killed, and people are making SC jokes? Really?

I don't claim to be an expert on N. Korea, but recently I saw a National Geographic documentary on Netflix about a reporter embedded with an eye doctor during a trip to N. Korea to attempt to help a few thousand citizens. I am honestly terrified of N. Korea. Their ideology is very scary, as it is almost...cultish.

This incident (and the other one a couple of weeks ago) could be very serious.

I'm also a bit curious as to what the US will do in response, as US forces are posted alongside S. Korean forces at the DMZ between N. and S. Korea. (I also bet the CIA is going apeshit right now.)
Consolidate
Profile Joined February 2010
United States829 Posts
November 23 2010 12:53 GMT
#1147
Where else would you have them hold naval exercises?
Creature posessed the the spirit of inquiry and bloodlust - Adventure Time
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51620 Posts
November 23 2010 12:54 GMT
#1148
On November 23 2010 21:05 MrHoon wrote:
This is just sad...
One of the dead Sergeant's Cyworld Wall Post (Cyworld is like Korean Facebook)

[image loading]

Show nested quote +
2010.11.22 8:54PM
Sergeant JungWoo Suh Says:

I'm finally done moving my stuff, and I finally get to sleep on a nice bed close to the end of my conscription service.

I heard the weather tomorrow is going to be bad, I wish the boat ride back home doesn't get canceled.
-----------------------------

2010.11.23 6:05PM
SungMin Yang Says:

Hopefully this means you got out safe, things are crazy out here right now
2010.11.23 6:32PM
MinGoo Says:

Hey JungWoo I just heard from the news... Please tell me that it wasn't you... Please


so depressing wow.
Commentator
Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
November 23 2010 12:54 GMT
#1149
Really don't see this ending well for anyone, maybe not today, but NK really has no reason not to continue pushing this bullshit because no one else really wants a war and they know that they can use this terrorism to get themselves more shit in promise of not doing it again. Sooner or later it's going to escalate drastically and it could be all out war in the blink of an eye.
kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
November 23 2010 12:55 GMT
#1150
On November 23 2010 21:49 Uriel_SVK wrote:
I am not defending NK here, but why are there so many army excersises near them? It is not the first time something like this happened. If I got an angry, violent, armed neighbour, i wont be runing with a gun around his yard...


They do maneuvres where a possible conflict would occur. You need realistic background for these kind of exercises at is it very likely that if war occurs, they will battle there. Not very likely to fight NK in the shores of Phillipines. It's not exactly paintball sessions they do there.
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
November 23 2010 12:56 GMT
#1151
On November 23 2010 21:52 LazyMacro wrote:

I'm also a bit curious as to what the US will do in response, as US forces are posted alongside S. Korean forces at the DMZ between N. and S. Korea. (I also bet the CIA is going apeshit right now.)


nothing,
impossible for US to go into another war atm unless US is under direct attack. Any other US war will mean instant death for the current government.
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
November 23 2010 12:57 GMT
#1152
On November 23 2010 21:45 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 21:40 MrHoon wrote:
Also NK is telling their citizens that SK has fired first upon NK, and NK did the right thing by firing at a civilian filled island.

Sometimes I think "do the NKs ever wonder if they're just being fed lies?". Then I ask myself how I know NK fired first.

I generally assume that politicans (on both sides of any given situation) are talking out of their ass and lying through their teeth. The public never gets the full story about anything military related for good reasons, too.


As for the joke attempt, I can't blame him too much. Regardless of the joke quality, some people deal with crisis via humor (not saying that particular poster was). Takes their mind off the danger. Whether the joke/entertainment is good or bad, if people are distracted from the grim reality for awhile it can help morale. I think (memory sketchy, not sure) during WWII the US had professional Baseball leagues continue. Gave the population some entertainment. Something to watch/talk about other than how much their friends, family, and loved ones are giving up/losing due to the war.

Humor is just one of the base reactions that some humans have to tense situations. If it helps some people feel less stressed, is it really all that bad if someone makes a few corny jokes?
LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
November 23 2010 12:58 GMT
#1153
On November 23 2010 21:54 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 21:05 MrHoon wrote:
This is just sad...
One of the dead Sergeant's Cyworld Wall Post (Cyworld is like Korean Facebook)

[image loading]

2010.11.22 8:54PM
Sergeant JungWoo Suh Says:

I'm finally done moving my stuff, and I finally get to sleep on a nice bed close to the end of my conscription service.

I heard the weather tomorrow is going to be bad, I wish the boat ride back home doesn't get canceled.
-----------------------------

2010.11.23 6:05PM
SungMin Yang Says:

Hopefully this means you got out safe, things are crazy out here right now
2010.11.23 6:32PM
MinGoo Says:

Hey JungWoo I just heard from the news... Please tell me that it wasn't you... Please


so depressing wow.

That...
UisTehSux
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States693 Posts
November 23 2010 12:59 GMT
#1154
Damn, never thought things would actually get to this point. I hope this is all just a misunderstanding.

But saying sorry will never replace lives lost.
I underestimated that boy. No... it was not the boy I underestimated, it was the Triforce of Courage.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
November 23 2010 13:00 GMT
#1155
If someone haven' seen already:



Video clip of the bombing is out.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Meiya
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia1169 Posts
November 23 2010 13:01 GMT
#1156
On November 23 2010 21:56 mmdmmd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 21:52 LazyMacro wrote:

I'm also a bit curious as to what the US will do in response, as US forces are posted alongside S. Korean forces at the DMZ between N. and S. Korea. (I also bet the CIA is going apeshit right now.)


nothing,
impossible for US to go into another war atm unless US is under direct attack. Any other US war will mean instant death for the current government.


Honestly, I think nothing could be easier than drumming up popular support for probably one of the most reasonably justified potential wars on earth. It wouldn't be Iraq or Afghanistan, it would be more
'Europe First'. ie. An objectively evil country trying to destroy an ally that the US has sacrified thousands of soldiers for in the past, and naturally US soldiers stationed in South Korea won't just be standing around if full scale hostilities are initiated.
Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands.
gongryong
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1430 Posts
November 23 2010 13:01 GMT
#1157
On November 23 2010 21:57 Vortok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 21:45 KwarK wrote:
On November 23 2010 21:40 MrHoon wrote:
Also NK is telling their citizens that SK has fired first upon NK, and NK did the right thing by firing at a civilian filled island.

Sometimes I think "do the NKs ever wonder if they're just being fed lies?". Then I ask myself how I know NK fired first.

I generally assume that politicans (on both sides of any given situation) are talking out of their ass and lying through their teeth. The public never gets the full story about anything military related for good reasons, too.


As for the joke attempt, I can't blame him too much. Regardless of the joke quality, some people deal with crisis via humor (not saying that particular poster was). Takes their mind off the danger. Whether the joke/entertainment is good or bad, if people are distracted from the grim reality for awhile it can help morale. I think (memory sketchy, not sure) during WWII the US had professional Baseball leagues continue. Gave the population some entertainment. Something to watch/talk about other than how much their friends, family, and loved ones are giving up/losing due to the war.

Humor is just one of the base reactions that some humans have to tense situations. If it helps some people feel less stressed, is it really all that bad if someone makes a few corny jokes?


FUCK YOU MAN. HOW DARE YOU PSYCHOLOGIZE THIS SITUATION. CAN YOU IMAGINE THIS HAPPENING TO YOUR HOUSE AND FAMILY AND ALL US HERE JOKING THAT FLASH AND BOXER SHOULD BE SENT TO NUKE NK? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU MAN!

User was temp banned for this post.
JAEDONG ÜBERBONJWA!
kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
November 23 2010 13:03 GMT
#1158
On November 23 2010 21:57 Vortok wrote:

Humor is just one of the base reactions that some humans have to tense situations. If it helps some people feel less stressed, is it really all that bad if someone makes a few corny jokes?



There is a severe difference between joking for coping with a stress situation and making distasteful jokes from at least 1000 km's away about people dying and the possibility of a war. One is justified, the other isn't. For a reason.
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 23 2010 13:03 GMT
#1159
It's times like this I wish someone would try harder in their assassination attempts of Kim Jong-il and his cabinet.
Meiya
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 13:05:36
November 23 2010 13:05 GMT
#1160
On November 23 2010 22:03 StarStruck wrote:
It's times like this I wish someone would try harder in their assassination attempts of Kim Jong-il and his cabinet.


What do you really think that would achieve other than creating martyrs? The people of that country believe that they are living in the only good country on Earth, because they know no other way.
Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands.
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