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On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.
I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too.
Except that western democracy doesn't forcibly starve the population and subject them to intense propaganda.
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I would say that North Korea's military is the more powerful of the two, though that's not an extremely relevant point considering the proximity of massive US forces to the area. Either way, I think North Korea is steadily continuing their landslide towards destruction.
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On November 23 2010 21:09 rMadness wrote:
I don't understand why the world doesnt step up and take care of this growing N.Korean problem.
Because even if NK even has no nuclear weapons they still have massiv amounts of artillery and any kind of serious military exchange would lead to thousands if not many more deaths in SK. In addition SK is not prepared for a collapsing NK.
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On November 23 2010 21:05 MrHoon wrote:This is just sad... One of the dead Sergeant's Cyworld Wall Post (Cyworld is like Korean Facebook) ![[image loading]](http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx86/MrHoon/___Crapbox/asdd.jpg) Show nested quote + 2010.11.22 8:54PM
Sergeant JungWoo Suh Says:
I'm finally done moving my stuff, and I finally get to sleep on a nice bed close to the end of my conscription service.
I heard the weather tomorrow is going to be bad, I wish the boat ride back home doesn't get canceled.
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2010.11.23 6:05PM
SungMin Yang Says:
Hopefully this means you got out safe, things are crazy out here right now
2010.11.23 6:32PM
MinGoo Says:
Hey JungWoo I just heard from the news... Please tell me that it wasn't you... Please
This is the kind of stuff that really shows you how fucked up this is... I feel so sad after reading that...
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On November 23 2010 21:09 rMadness wrote:I don't understand why the world doesnt step up and take care of this growing N.Korean problem. the people there are starving and are being treated like dark ages peasants while the royalty steps on them. it shouldnt be acceptable, every country in the world is guilty of not helping those poor brainwashed people. i strongly recomend watching this: http://www.vbs.tv/watch/the-vice-guide-to-travel/vice-guide-to-north-korea-1-of-3it really shows you how insane that country is, its so obvious that they are trying to make it seem like everyone isnt completly miserable and the people are scared of the police one woman sees them while on her bike, gets off, and walks down stairs holding the bike and only because she sees a camera and its illegal to be seen with food you purchased at the market (the only way ppl can actually survive because the government doesnt give enough rations) its sad, and whats even sadder is that now this happened, if a war starts i have a feeling the N.Korean people will be almost extinct by the end of it
There's poverty elsewhere in the world as well, and twisted or not, fact is that I'd rather live in NK than some other countries (Somalia for example). You can't expect any nation to 'do something' about the NK problem, because there isn't a whole lot you can do. NK is a cornered cat, only kept calm by aid from SK, China, Western nation and so forth.
They know that we know that if we stop trading/aiding NK they will starve and then be forced to go to war, as they simply won't have any other options. It's a retarded situation and I believe that if anyone is going to sort it out it has to be North Korea, though I'm not sure how that is going to happen.
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On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 20:37 John Acton wrote:On November 23 2010 20:36 Bshad wrote:On November 23 2010 20:34 bummer3000 wrote:
I bet North Koreans are betting against the Asian stock market, ever time they fire a shot the stocks drop. At least they arent invading other countries with a lot of oil. Can we discuss North Korea and not what you perceive to be United States foreign policy? Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life. I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too.
i'm sorry, have you actually SEEN how north koreans live? the capital is completely showcase and there are large buildings that are completely empty for instance. let's also not forget the famine in the early 90's that killed over 10% of the population. comparing north korea to western democracies is outright disgusting and completely underplay the situations in north korea.
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On November 23 2010 21:07 kledzerlol wrote:
I mean we know for a fact that if the US and China go to war because of this, which might actually happen, then europe will support the US. What about all the other asian countries? Will they show China support or the western countries? I think Japan will show the western countries support..but there are many others.
I don't think the other countries really worry about. The only ones with military capacities of matter are India and Pakistan, and it doesn't influence them as far as I understand. Southeast Asian Countries don't have weight in this dimensions (Russia, China, NK, SK, US, maybe Australia), so it boils down to the usual contenders. I sincerely hope Russia and China step in and show NK the border of mockery.
And it's a wonder Bshad is still around here...just ignoring him seems to be the best way.
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The USA, France, Britain, and several other countries have actively condemned North Korea's actions.
Russia and China are telling the Koreas to calm the fuck down.
Japan is preparing for the worst, and have explicitly told China to be tougher on NK.
from http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/9218848.stm
It looks to me like anyone who is in the general area (i.e. can get affected by nuclear fallout, should it come to that) are seeking peace at all costs, while countries overseas are telling North Korea that they suck and should stop sucking. In other words, business as usual, except with DEFCON 1 thrown in.
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On November 23 2010 21:05 MrHoon wrote:This is just sad... One of the dead Sergeant's Cyworld Wall Post (Cyworld is like Korean Facebook) Show nested quote + 2010.11.22 8:54PM
Sergeant JungWoo Suh Says:
I'm finally done moving my stuff, and I finally get to sleep on a nice bed close to the end of my conscription service.
I heard the weather tomorrow is going to be bad, I wish the boat ride back home doesn't get canceled.
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2010.11.23 6:05PM
SungMin Yang Says:
Hopefully this means you got out safe, things are crazy out here right now
2010.11.23 6:32PM
MinGoo Says:
Hey JungWoo I just heard from the news... Please tell me that it wasn't you... Please
I literally cried.
That's just so sad.
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Topple the government already. North Korea is a terrible humanitarian crisis and the people are suffering. wtf is the US doing. Iraq is nothing compared to NK.
edit: k i'm jumping forward with this. I turned on the korean channel and the first thing I see are tanks lol. Can't tell how big this is yet. just woke up.
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"0955: India deploys 36,000 extra troops along its border with China. "
Not sure if this was randomly thrown in or what, but why is India getting all rattled by this stuff? Are they foreseeing NK getting attacked and China moving to support?
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On November 23 2010 21:19 Horuku wrote:
"0955: India deploys 36,000 extra troops along its border with China. "
Not sure if this was randomly thrown in or what, but why is India getting all rattled by this stuff? Are they foreseeing NK getting attacked and China moving to support?
The troops were mobilized before the attack, as far as I know. The two events don't seem to be connected, but they're both significant.
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woops, double post, sorry
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On November 23 2010 21:19 Horuku wrote:
"0955: India deploys 36,000 extra troops along its border with China. "
Not sure if this was randomly thrown in or what, but why is India getting all rattled by this stuff? Are they foreseeing NK getting attacked and China moving to support?
This appears to be a bit random, but India is more an Ally to the USA. If shit hits the fan and all sides join the conflict India would most likely join the United States (if they can't stay neutral).
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Kespa recently posted an interview of pro-Starcraft player reactions to the North Korean aggression. My korean is very bad, so i cannot produce a full translation, but in short:
Reach apologises for not stoping the incoming artillery pieces, resulting in the destabalizing of the global scene. Most military estimatations state that Reach could easily have deflected the hour long barrage by simply staring across the DMZ and causing Kim Jong-il to shit his pants and making the shells drop out of the sky in intimidation of his manliness. Reach states that he was busy satisfying all nine members of the Korean pop girl band: Girls' Generation, and learned of the incident several hours after the orgy, which caused a minor earthquake in his disrtict.
Meanwhile Flash criticised the decision to fast expand to Yeonpyeong island, but felt confident as the nine mutalisk 2 hatch only resulted 2 SCV deaths. He urged the SK generals to aim for a turtle style, long term, macro victory. Flash could not finish the interview however, due to an eye twitching issue, and was promptly taken away by his handlers.
Fantasy also contributed to the SK board of National Defense, presenting a plan to send one of every SK unit in a dumbfounding attack on Pyongyang. His plan was later scrapped for being retarded.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On November 23 2010 21:05 MrHoon wrote:This is just sad... One of the dead Sergeant's Cyworld Wall Post (Cyworld is like Korean Facebook) Show nested quote + 2010.11.22 8:54PM
Sergeant JungWoo Suh Says:
I'm finally done moving my stuff, and I finally get to sleep on a nice bed close to the end of my conscription service.
I heard the weather tomorrow is going to be bad, I wish the boat ride back home doesn't get canceled.
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2010.11.23 6:05PM
SungMin Yang Says:
Hopefully this means you got out safe, things are crazy out here right now
2010.11.23 6:32PM
MinGoo Says:
Hey JungWoo I just heard from the news... Please tell me that it wasn't you... Please
Holy crap... That's just sad...
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On November 23 2010 21:23 bummer3000 wrote:
Kespa recently posted an interview of pro-Starcraft player reactions to the North Korean aggression. My korean is very bad, so i cannot produce a full translation, but in short:
Reach apologises for not stoping the incoming artillery pieces, resulting in the destabalizing of the global scene. Most military estimatations state that Reach could easily have deflected the hour long barrage by simply staring across the DMZ and causing Kim Jong-il to shit his pants and making the shells drop out of the sky in intimidation of his manliness. Reach states that he was busy satisfying all nine members of the Korean pop girl band: Girls' Generation, and learned of the incident several hours after the orgy, which caused a minor earthquake in his disrtict.
Meanwhile Flash criticised the decision to fast expand to Yeonpyeong island, but felt confident as the nine mutalisk 2 hatch only resulted 2 SCV deaths. He urged the SK generals to aim for a turtle style, long term, macro victory. Flash could not finish the interview however, due to an eye twitching issue, and was promptly taken away by his handlers.
Fantasy also contributed to the SK board of National Defense, presenting a plan to send one of every SK unit in a dumbfounding attack on Pyongyang. His plan was later scrapped for being retarded.
Not the place nor the time.
Odd how fast "Two marines dead" can turn into "Two people dead", quite a difference somehow. Man, shit's fucked.
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On November 23 2010 21:23 Rflcrx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 21:19 Horuku wrote:
"0955: India deploys 36,000 extra troops along its border with China. "
Not sure if this was randomly thrown in or what, but why is India getting all rattled by this stuff? Are they foreseeing NK getting attacked and China moving to support? This appears to be a bit random, but India is more an Ally to the USA. If shit hits the fan and all sides join the conflict India would most likely join the United States (if they can't stay neutral).
Well I re-read the article about it and it said that there are now as many troops on the India-China border than in 1986-87 when the two countries almost went to war.
It can't be a coincidence. It seems like the Koreans are spiraling towards a war and then eventually the US and China will get involved which might spark India to do something too.
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On November 23 2010 21:23 bummer3000 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Kespa recently posted an interview of pro-Starcraft player reactions to the North Korean aggression. My korean is very bad, so i cannot produce a full translation, but in short:
Reach apologises for not stoping the incoming artillery pieces, resulting in the destabalizing of the global scene. Most military estimatations state that Reach could easily have deflected the hour long barrage by simply staring across the DMZ and causing Kim Jong-il to shit his pants and making the shells drop out of the sky in intimidation of his manliness. Reach states that he was busy satisfying all nine members of the Korean pop girl band: Girls' Generation, and learned of the incident several hours after the orgy, which caused a minor earthquake in his disrtict.
Meanwhile Flash criticised the decision to fast expand to Yeonpyeong island, but felt confident as the nine mutalisk 2 hatch only resulted 2 SCV deaths. He urged the SK generals to aim for a turtle style, long term, macro victory. Flash could not finish the interview however, due to an eye twitching issue, and was promptly taken away by his handlers.
Fantasy also contributed to the SK board of National Defense, presenting a plan to send one of every SK unit in a dumbfounding attack on Pyongyang. His plan was later scrapped for being retarded.
Just stop.
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On November 23 2010 21:17 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 21:05 MrHoon wrote:This is just sad... One of the dead Sergeant's Cyworld Wall Post (Cyworld is like Korean Facebook) 2010.11.22 8:54PM
Sergeant JungWoo Suh Says:
I'm finally done moving my stuff, and I finally get to sleep on a nice bed close to the end of my conscription service.
I heard the weather tomorrow is going to be bad, I wish the boat ride back home doesn't get canceled.
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2010.11.23 6:05PM
SungMin Yang Says:
Hopefully this means you got out safe, things are crazy out here right now
2010.11.23 6:32PM
MinGoo Says:
Hey JungWoo I just heard from the news... Please tell me that it wasn't you... Please I literally cried. That's just so sad.
ya the worst part is that his vacation was supposed to start today
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