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On November 23 2010 20:43 Ghazwan wrote:
I think it's quite possible that Kim Jong-il died and this was a show-off to the NK public that the country is still standing strong, considering it took them 30 hours before they let the public know when Kim Il-sung died.
I like that explanation. Better than saying "they did it because they are NK"
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On November 23 2010 20:43 Ghazwan wrote:
I think it's quite possible that Kim Jong-il died and this was a show-off to the NK public that the country is still standing strong, considering it took them 30 hours before they let the public know when Kim Il-sung died.
Good point, I didn't consider something like this yet. If anything, only time will tell about their motivations.
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On November 23 2010 20:37 John Acton wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 20:36 Bshad wrote:On November 23 2010 20:34 bummer3000 wrote:
I bet North Koreans are betting against the Asian stock market, ever time they fire a shot the stocks drop. At least they arent invading other countries with a lot of oil. Can we discuss North Korea and not what you perceive to be United States foreign policy?
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.
I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too.
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Well, if that reasoning is true then SK has it's own part to blame for this. However i believe NK's reaction was disproportionate.
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While South korea should not have fired in those areas knowing how the North is... you don't really fire back at people if they are firing at empty places.....
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On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.
I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too.
US is the citadel of democracy therefore it is always right and just.
If one day they will invade your country, it is in the name of democracy!
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On November 23 2010 20:49 Pika Chu wrote:
Well, if that reasoning is true then SK has it's own part to blame for this. However i believe NK's reaction was disproportionate.
Well, KJI is a damn psychopath and this country's government has gone mental. But yeah, even though, life is never black and white.
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In case anyone didnt catch it heres the BBCs Live feed. Best way to keep up to date with reliable information imo, Google's feed just has too much repetition for me.
The fact that they've got to throwing accusations at each other suggests we've back to 'normal' . Was scary there for a while...
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On November 23 2010 20:53 Bshad wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.
I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too. US is the citadel of democracy therefore it is always right and just. If one day they will invade your country, it is in the name of democracy!
I wonder if you are kidding.
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NK attacking SK would be suicide for NK, there is no way that they can handle them in a full on war.
On top of SK's army, there are currently 25000 american troops in SK, this will not end well.
I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too.
The country is a ghost town, how can you say that's not so much better then democracy? that's insane.
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On November 23 2010 20:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 20:53 Bshad wrote:On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.
I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too. US is the citadel of democracy therefore it is always right and just. If one day they will invade your country, it is in the name of democracy! I wonder if you are kidding.
I thought you were kidding with your initial statement. If you're seriously comparing NK to America you are extremely ignorant and/or misinformed.
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On November 23 2010 20:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 20:53 Bshad wrote:On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.
I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too. US is the citadel of democracy therefore it is always right and just. If one day they will invade your country, it is in the name of democracy! I wonder if you are kidding.
Yeah, me too, can't really tell if it's sarcasm or not.  dem voice tones doesn't exist on internet!
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On November 23 2010 20:59 Rawenkeke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 20:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 23 2010 20:53 Bshad wrote:On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.
I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too. US is the citadel of democracy therefore it is always right and just. If one day they will invade your country, it is in the name of democracy! I wonder if you are kidding. Yeah, me too, can't really tell if it's sarcasm or not. dem voice tones doesn't exist on internet!
Bshad has been trolling and flamebaiting this thread for a couple hours now. It's a wonder he has not been banned yet.
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On November 23 2010 20:58 vyyye wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.
I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too. I thought you were kidding with your initial statement. If you're seriously comparing NK to America you are extremely ignorant and/or misinformed.
And why wouldn't he compare them? They look pretty much the same except US invested more into PR to justify their actions.
User was temp banned for this post.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
This is just sad...
One of the dead Sergeant's Cyworld Wall Post (Cyworld is like Korean Facebook)
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2010.11.22 8:54PM
Sergeant JungWoo Suh Says:
I'm finally done moving my stuff, and I finally get to sleep on a nice bed close to the end of my conscription service.
I heard the weather tomorrow is going to be bad, I wish the boat ride back home doesn't get canceled.
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2010.11.23 6:05PM
SungMin Yang Says:
Hopefully this means you got out safe, things are crazy out here right now
2010.11.23 6:32PM
MinGoo Says:
Hey JungWoo I just heard from the news... Please tell me that it wasn't you... Please
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On November 23 2010 20:58 vyyye wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 20:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 23 2010 20:53 Bshad wrote:On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.
I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too. US is the citadel of democracy therefore it is always right and just. If one day they will invade your country, it is in the name of democracy! I wonder if you are kidding. I thought you were kidding with your initial statement. If you're seriously comparing NK to America you are extremely ignorant and/or misinformed.
Bshad is obviously being sarcastic, but neither he nor Biff really have a point. Sure, the USA (and China and Japan for that matter) has done a lot of nasty stuff in the name of justice, but intentionally starving over a third of its own citizens in order to squeeze out foreign aid that goes directly into weapons development is not one of them. You can rightfully hate a lot of what the USA does, but there's no question who's in the right on this one.
North Korea is a cancer to east Asia. Pointing fingers at other countries and noting that they're not saints is just a distraction from that problem.
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On November 23 2010 21:04 Bshad wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 20:58 vyyye wrote:On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.
I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too. I thought you were kidding with your initial statement. If you're seriously comparing NK to America you are extremely ignorant and/or misinformed. And why wouldn't he compare them? They look pretty much the same except US invested more into PR to justify their actions.
Earth is pretty much the same as the moon, except we have grown more trees. Both are round and all.
..really?
Edit: Just looked at your post history. Get outside or something.
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On November 23 2010 21:02 Whiladan wrote:
Bshad has been trolling and flamebaiting this thread for a couple hours now. It's a wonder he has not been banned yet.
Seems like most people here felt like its their debt to shit on NK.
Yet when people came up with different opinion you're calling them trolls.
That's called hypocrisy.
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On November 23 2010 16:04 stevarius wrote:
For the sake of humanity can someone in this world disable North Korea's military capabilities?
Sadly china supports north korea...and since the US and many European countries are in debt to china, nobody will touch them.
This can turn out to be horrifying, china supporting north korea and the US supporting the south...it´s gonna be really interesting to see if the US will actually have the balls to support south korea cause we know for sure that china will support the other side. How will that turn out? World at war probably.
I mean we know for a fact that if the US and China go to war because of this, which might actually happen, then europe will support the US. What about all the other asian countries? Will they show China support or the western countries? I think Japan will show the western countries support..but there are many others.
Communism vs Capitalism all over again..
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United States50 Posts
I don't understand why the world doesnt step up and take care of this growing N.Korean problem. the people there are starving and are being treated like dark ages peasants while the royalty steps on them. it shouldnt be acceptable, every country in the world is guilty of not helping those poor brainwashed people.
i strongly recomend watching this:
http://www.vbs.tv/watch/the-vice-guide-to-travel/vice-guide-to-north-korea-1-of-3
it really shows you how insane that country is, its so obvious that they are trying to make it seem like everyone isnt completly miserable and the people are scared of the police one woman sees them while on her bike, gets off, and walks down stairs holding the bike and only because she sees a camera and its illegal to be seen with food you purchased at the market (the only way ppl can actually survive because the government doesnt give enough rations)
its sad, and whats even sadder is that now this happened, if a war starts i have a feeling the N.Korean people will be almost extinct by the end of it
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