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hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
November 23 2010 11:46 GMT
#1081
On November 23 2010 20:43 Ghazwan wrote:
I think it's quite possible that Kim Jong-il died and this was a show-off to the NK public that the country is still standing strong, considering it took them 30 hours before they let the public know when Kim Il-sung died.


I like that explanation. Better than saying "they did it because they are NK"
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
November 23 2010 11:47 GMT
#1082
On November 23 2010 20:43 Ghazwan wrote:
I think it's quite possible that Kim Jong-il died and this was a show-off to the NK public that the country is still standing strong, considering it took them 30 hours before they let the public know when Kim Il-sung died.

Good point, I didn't consider something like this yet. If anything, only time will tell about their motivations.
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8110 Posts
November 23 2010 11:48 GMT
#1083
On November 23 2010 20:37 John Acton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 20:36 Bshad wrote:
On November 23 2010 20:34 bummer3000 wrote:
I bet North Koreans are betting against the Asian stock market, ever time they fire a shot the stocks drop.

At least they arent invading other countries with a lot of oil.


Can we discuss North Korea and not what you perceive to be United States foreign policy?

Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.

I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
November 23 2010 11:49 GMT
#1084
Well, if that reasoning is true then SK has it's own part to blame for this. However i believe NK's reaction was disproportionate.
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
November 23 2010 11:53 GMT
#1085
While South korea should not have fired in those areas knowing how the North is... you don't really fire back at people if they are firing at empty places.....
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
Bshad
Profile Joined May 2008
120 Posts
November 23 2010 11:53 GMT
#1086
On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.

I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too.


US is the citadel of democracy therefore it is always right and just.
If one day they will invade your country, it is in the name of democracy!
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8110 Posts
November 23 2010 11:54 GMT
#1087
On November 23 2010 20:49 Pika Chu wrote:
Well, if that reasoning is true then SK has it's own part to blame for this. However i believe NK's reaction was disproportionate.

Well, KJI is a damn psychopath and this country's government has gone mental. But yeah, even though, life is never black and white.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
ithree
Profile Joined January 2010
443 Posts
November 23 2010 11:55 GMT
#1088
In case anyone didnt catch it heres the BBCs Live feed. Best way to keep up to date with reliable information imo, Google's feed just has too much repetition for me.

The fact that they've got to throwing accusations at each other suggests we've back to 'normal' . Was scary there for a while...
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8110 Posts
November 23 2010 11:56 GMT
#1089
On November 23 2010 20:53 Bshad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.

I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too.


US is the citadel of democracy therefore it is always right and just.
If one day they will invade your country, it is in the name of democracy!

I wonder if you are kidding.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 11:57:53
November 23 2010 11:56 GMT
#1090
NK attacking SK would be suicide for NK, there is no way that they can handle them in a full on war.

On top of SK's army, there are currently 25000 american troops in SK, this will not end well.


I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too.


The country is a ghost town, how can you say that's not so much better then democracy? that's insane.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
November 23 2010 11:58 GMT
#1091
On November 23 2010 20:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 20:53 Bshad wrote:
On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.

I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too.


US is the citadel of democracy therefore it is always right and just.
If one day they will invade your country, it is in the name of democracy!

I wonder if you are kidding.

I thought you were kidding with your initial statement. If you're seriously comparing NK to America you are extremely ignorant and/or misinformed.
Rawenkeke
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway350 Posts
November 23 2010 11:59 GMT
#1092
On November 23 2010 20:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 20:53 Bshad wrote:
On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.

I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too.


US is the citadel of democracy therefore it is always right and just.
If one day they will invade your country, it is in the name of democracy!

I wonder if you are kidding.



Yeah, me too, can't really tell if it's sarcasm or not. dem voice tones doesn't exist on internet!
Whiladan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
November 23 2010 12:02 GMT
#1093
On November 23 2010 20:59 Rawenkeke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 20:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On November 23 2010 20:53 Bshad wrote:
On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.

I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too.


US is the citadel of democracy therefore it is always right and just.
If one day they will invade your country, it is in the name of democracy!

I wonder if you are kidding.



Yeah, me too, can't really tell if it's sarcasm or not. dem voice tones doesn't exist on internet!


Bshad has been trolling and flamebaiting this thread for a couple hours now. It's a wonder he has not been banned yet.
Bshad
Profile Joined May 2008
120 Posts
November 23 2010 12:04 GMT
#1094
On November 23 2010 20:58 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.

I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too.


I thought you were kidding with your initial statement. If you're seriously comparing NK to America you are extremely ignorant and/or misinformed.



And why wouldn't he compare them? They look pretty much the same except US invested more into PR to justify their actions.

User was temp banned for this post.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 12:07:34
November 23 2010 12:05 GMT
#1095
This is just sad...
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Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
November 23 2010 12:06 GMT
#1096
On November 23 2010 20:58 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 20:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On November 23 2010 20:53 Bshad wrote:
On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.

I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too.


US is the citadel of democracy therefore it is always right and just.
If one day they will invade your country, it is in the name of democracy!

I wonder if you are kidding.

I thought you were kidding with your initial statement. If you're seriously comparing NK to America you are extremely ignorant and/or misinformed.

Bshad is obviously being sarcastic, but neither he nor Biff really have a point. Sure, the USA (and China and Japan for that matter) has done a lot of nasty stuff in the name of justice, but intentionally starving over a third of its own citizens in order to squeeze out foreign aid that goes directly into weapons development is not one of them. You can rightfully hate a lot of what the USA does, but there's no question who's in the right on this one.

North Korea is a cancer to east Asia. Pointing fingers at other countries and noting that they're not saints is just a distraction from that problem.
Intrigue: "as i've said to many others your troubles in life may be directly correlated to your dirty protoss icon"
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 12:08:36
November 23 2010 12:06 GMT
#1097
On November 23 2010 21:04 Bshad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 20:58 vyyye wrote:
On November 23 2010 20:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Same people saying zomgNKsoevil don't realize that their own country is doing illegal wars for equally bad reason which iirc caused a little more than 4 human life.

I hate KJI and I'm really sorry for both Koreas, but making NK "absolute evil" à-la-Bush without realizing that western democracy are in fact not behaving much better is a bit silly too.


I thought you were kidding with your initial statement. If you're seriously comparing NK to America you are extremely ignorant and/or misinformed.



And why wouldn't he compare them? They look pretty much the same except US invested more into PR to justify their actions.

Earth is pretty much the same as the moon, except we have grown more trees. Both are round and all.

..really?

Edit: Just looked at your post history. Get outside or something.
Bshad
Profile Joined May 2008
120 Posts
November 23 2010 12:06 GMT
#1098
On November 23 2010 21:02 Whiladan wrote:
Bshad has been trolling and flamebaiting this thread for a couple hours now. It's a wonder he has not been banned yet.

Seems like most people here felt like its their debt to shit on NK.
Yet when people came up with different opinion you're calling them trolls.
That's called hypocrisy.
kledzerlol
Profile Joined November 2010
Iceland5 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 12:08:58
November 23 2010 12:07 GMT
#1099
On November 23 2010 16:04 stevarius wrote:
For the sake of humanity can someone in this world disable North Korea's military capabilities?


Sadly china supports north korea...and since the US and many European countries are in debt to china, nobody will touch them.

This can turn out to be horrifying, china supporting north korea and the US supporting the south...it´s gonna be really interesting to see if the US will actually have the balls to support south korea cause we know for sure that china will support the other side. How will that turn out? World at war probably.

I mean we know for a fact that if the US and China go to war because of this, which might actually happen, then europe will support the US. What about all the other asian countries? Will they show China support or the western countries? I think Japan will show the western countries support..but there are many others.

Communism vs Capitalism all over again..
rMadness
Profile Joined October 2010
United States50 Posts
November 23 2010 12:09 GMT
#1100
I don't understand why the world doesnt step up and take care of this growing N.Korean problem. the people there are starving and are being treated like dark ages peasants while the royalty steps on them. it shouldnt be acceptable, every country in the world is guilty of not helping those poor brainwashed people.

i strongly recomend watching this:
http://www.vbs.tv/watch/the-vice-guide-to-travel/vice-guide-to-north-korea-1-of-3

it really shows you how insane that country is, its so obvious that they are trying to make it seem like everyone isnt completly miserable and the people are scared of the police one woman sees them while on her bike, gets off, and walks down stairs holding the bike and only because she sees a camera and its illegal to be seen with food you purchased at the market (the only way ppl can actually survive because the government doesnt give enough rations)

its sad, and whats even sadder is that now this happened, if a war starts i have a feeling the N.Korean people will be almost extinct by the end of it
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