[?]Remedies for the common cold? - Page 2
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Marl
United States692 Posts
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checo
Mexico1364 Posts
On November 22 2010 11:18 Thrill wrote: Who told you that works, the Headless Horseman? Theres several studys that suport macro intake of Vit C improving inmunological response from Linfocites, most of this are from russia and Europe. Of course that makes for a more acid urine also, so if you plan on doing it drink more water than usual ^^ | ||
Trapist
Canada46 Posts
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Sero
United States692 Posts
On November 22 2010 11:45 checo wrote: Theres several studys that suport macro intake of Vit C improving inmunological response from Linfocites, most of this are from russia and Europe. Of course that makes for a more acid urine also, so if you plan on doing it drink more water than usual ^^ Linus Pauling proposed the use of vitamin C supplements to prevent the common cold, but scientific evidence has repeatedly failed to find support for his belief. That's prevent, not treat. And even that hasn't been confirmed through studies. | ||
checo
Mexico1364 Posts
On November 22 2010 11:48 Sero wrote: Linus Pauling proposed the use of vitamin C supplements to prevent the common cold, but scientific evidence has repeatedly failed to find support for his belief. That's prevent, not treat. And even that hasn't been confirmed through studies. I didn't say anything about prevention or treatment i just said theres some proof of the Vit C helping to improve inmunological response, if it helps to treat or prevent i don't know lol... | ||
Fen
Australia1848 Posts
On November 22 2010 11:37 Sephy69 wrote: @OP I doubt a lot of these people are doctors (they could have some experience with stuff like this though) that are saying it's bad he prescribed you anti-bacterials. IT does makes sense that it's weird that he did that while you have a virus haha. I'd suggest visiting a different doctor? Or asking him why he prescribed you medicine that won't fight your cold. Maybe he just did that so that it could stop a fever if you haven't had one yet? I don't know! You should find out though. I hope this isn't anything serious and just a bad cold and you get better soon ^_^ Actually you'll be surprised at how many med students/doctors there really are on TL (med student myself). Doctors tend to prescribe anti-biotics for viral infections for 2 reasons. 1. They wanna take a shotgun approach to treating (while the vast majority of the time a common cold will be viral, there is the possibility that it is bacterial in nature and is not showing typical symptoms) 2. Patients want medication. People are idiots, and often don't care what a doctor thinks medically, they just want a pill that will make it go away. If a doctor tells someone that they have a virus and doesn't give them any medication, people feel as though they've been ripped off and won't go back to that doctor again, losing him clients. Especially if another doctor down the road gives them an antibiotic and then it clears up. The patient goes around saying the first doctor was an idiot for not giving them medication, when in truth it was the other way around and the antibiotics didnt do anything at all. To the OP, i'd give it more time to heal. Sometimes it just takes a while and theres nothing you can do about it. You've taken antibiotics and they didn't do anything so unless you contracted a superbug, you've basically got proof that you have a viral infection, which cannot be treated with anything. So just look after yourself. If the fever gets bad, take some paracetamol to calm it down and wait it out. | ||
Koagel
Austria167 Posts
EDIT: Damnit, should refresh before I post. EDIT2: 1. They wanna take a shotgun approach to treating (while the vast majority of the time a common cold will be viral, there is the possibility that it is bacterial in nature and is not showing typical symptoms) Shotgun approach for the common cold? I'd call that a mistake, unless he really has a reason to believe that it's not the common cold.2. Patients want medication. People are idiots, and often don't care what a doctor thinks medically, they just want a pill that will make it go away. If a doctor tells someone that they have a virus and doesn't give them any medication, people feel as though they've been ripped off and won't go back to that doctor again, losing him clients. Especially if another doctor down the road gives them an antibiotic and then it clears up. The patient goes around saying the first doctor was an idiot for not giving them medication, when in truth it was the other way around and the antibiotics didnt do anything at all. I still don't feel like this justifies antibiotics. I mean, in med school they teach us to be responsible about antibiotics. Our pharma professor would rage if we told him that we'd just prescribe ABs for insufficient reasons. | ||
yoplate
United States332 Posts
On November 22 2010 10:47 Saline wrote: I hate to say this, but the common cold is a virus, and there are no "miracle cures." Your body fights viruses with antibodies, not with chemicals found in food. Old wives' tales simply don't work. You can still try to help out your immune system by giving it what it needs--lots of rest, fluids, and energy. Try to eat--even if it's easy things like soup, bananas, etc. Drink lots of water, and get rest. Honestly, I'm not sure why your doctor prescribed you antibacterial medication for a cold--such medication has no effect on viruses. He should let you know if you have an infection as opposed to as simple cold. If your cold continues for much longer, it might mean you have something a bit worse than the cold, but most likely your body will fight it off on its own--just give it time. Hang in there! He is right. Drink liquids, eat food, and get a TON of sleep. That is the only way to cure a common cold. | ||
Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
*Shakes fist at antibiotic prescribing doctors* Thanks for contributing to bacterial resistance. | ||
blarrgh
United States24 Posts
From http://www2.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab000980.html Authors’ conclusions The failure of vitamin C supplementation to reduce the incidence of colds in the general population indicates that routine prophylaxis is not justified. Vitamin C could be useful for people exposed to brief periods of severe physical exercise. While the prophylaxis trials have consistently shown that vitamin C reduces the duration and alleviates the symptoms of colds, this was not replicated in the few therapeutic trials that have been carried out. Further therapeutic RCTs are warranted. Basically, pumping yourself full of Vit C after getting sick would not help you beyond the placebo effect (which is, ironically, one of the best therapies in modern medicine ![]() | ||
Sleight
2471 Posts
On November 22 2010 10:52 Ichabod wrote: Vitamin C is one of the most effective remedies in my experience. I usually take a gram or so a day to supplement my immune system, but when you first feel a cold coming on, increase intake to a few grams a day (as long as you don't get the runs, you don't need to lower your intake). Continue for a few days as needed. So you people need to read this: http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/pauling.html Linus Pauling invented the Vitamin C myth. It does about as much as getting slightly more sleep for your symptoms. The correct 'treatment' for a cold is staying as warm as possible and being sure to avoid fatty foods and red meats. Why? The warmer you are the less your body works at keeping you warm, conserving energy, and some viruses have been shown to replicate more effectively when their is an increased availability of certain kinds of amino acids. Staying away from fatty foods makes digestion easier. Cheers. | ||
Zealotdriver
United States1557 Posts
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Koagel
Austria167 Posts
![]() The existence of patients’ expectations regarding the prescription of antibiotics and their influence on the decisions of doctors to prescribe is unequivocal [7,15,16]; however, the prevalence of such expectations varies considerably depending on the setting or type of study. It can be as high as 50% in United States adults consulting for cold symptoms [17] or as low as 1.2% in the Dutch general population [12]. Overall, our results indicate a sensible approach to antibiotics among Germany’s public. Only a minority reported that they expected a prescription of antibiotics for cold symptoms and most reported to be taking antibiotics ‘only if absolutely necessary’. ... Furthermore, if patients do expect a prescription for cold symptoms, they do not necessarily expect a prescription of antibiotics. Van Driel et al. suggested that patients with acute sore throat and who hope for antibiotics are actually seeking treatment for pain [19]. This corresponds well to results of our survey, where 44% of respondents reported to expect symptomatic treatment for cold symptoms (e.g. lozenges, painkiller, cough medication) while only 7.7% reported to expect antibiotics for these symptoms. Antibiotics for the common cold: expectations of Germany's general population. Faber MS, Heckenbach K, Velasco E, Eckmanns T. Department for Infectious Disease Epidemiology, Robert Koch Institute, Berlin, Germany. study regarding AB-expectations in patients with common cold Article seems to be free, yay, there aren't enough of those. It's mostly centered on Germany, but whatever, still interesting. | ||
Fen
Australia1848 Posts
On November 22 2010 12:02 Koagel wrote: Antibiotics are sometimes prescribed to prevent bacterial superinfections, but not if you just have a cold... Or at least ideally not, lol. Maybe he doesn't like you and wants you to get diarrhea too. EDIT: Damnit, should refresh before I post. EDIT2: Shotgun approach for the common cold? I'd call that a mistake, unless he really has a reason to believe that it's not the common cold. I still don't feel like this justifies antibiotics. I mean, in med school they teach us to be responsible about antibiotics. Our pharma professor would rage if we told him that we'd just prescribe ABs for insufficient reasons. Sorry, I think I might have come across as trying to justify his actions. Neither of those reasons are justified. I was just pointing out the common reasons why doctors do prescribe antibiotics when they know they will have no effect. My Infectious disease professor would also rage at me if I gave those answers as reasons for prescribing ABs ![]() | ||
Koagel
Austria167 Posts
On November 22 2010 12:33 Fen wrote: Sorry, I think I might have come across as trying to justify his actions. Neither of those reasons are justified. I was just pointing out the common reasons why doctors do prescribe antibiotics when they know they will have no effect. My Infectious disease professor would also rage at me if I gave those answers as reasons for prescribing ABs ![]() Nah, just wanted to clear things up, I think I sounded more aggressive than I wanted to. | ||
Synkair
United States10 Posts
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Kakera
United States419 Posts
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
Also, various nose-spray makes life a little less disgusting for a couple of hours after you use it. Try something like Strepsils - These are quite good for the throat ![]() | ||
Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On November 22 2010 13:43 danbel1005 wrote: You can expect to be sick for one to two weeks, drinking plenty of liquids can help. Water, juice, clear broth or warm lemon water with honey helps loosen congestion and prevents dehydration. No alcohol, coffee and caffeinated sodas, which make dehydration worse. Being doing this since I was born I was born I guess, WORKS EVERY TIME ![]() Wait what? No alcohol? I always drink some alcohol when I'm having a cold. Hot "Glühwein" (warm 'red wine' with spices, not really much %) removes the small pain in the limbs (?) and fatigue. But I have to mention (since you mention dehydration) that I drink about 3l of tea per day when I'm sick. That plus water & "Glühwein" ![]() Other tipps: Stay inside. Keep warm. Dont go out. Going out of the house basically prolongs my colds for about 2-3 days. I never use any kind of medicine (the tea helps me with coughing). | ||
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