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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 18:40:12
November 11 2010 18:39 GMT
#21
They held a private prom without telling her. Like, some other parents put together money to rent some place out and held their own "prom" with the school being uninvolved (in response to Hawk on page 1). But yeah, this stuff happens a lot in the states it's not surprising that it happens at schools in other countries too.

I also love the people who think that private schools can do whatever the fuck they want. Like fire teachers who have sex outside of marriage, ban lesbians from attending their prom, or only accept white students. Just because it's a private school doesn't mean they can discriminate.
FishForThought
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada88 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 18:41:14
November 11 2010 18:39 GMT
#22
... it would be discrimination if they refuse to let her join the formal because of her sexual orientation but it is not discrimination to forbid her to bring guest of the same sex. The formal is hosted by the school, they have all rights to create rules and guidelines for the event. If the event specified that all guests must be males, then there is no discrimination involved.

People need to stop getting all defensive and insecure about these things; sooner or later people will cry sexist for not being able to get into an all female/male school because he or she is not that gender, or cry free speech violation for not being able to enter a restaurant nude.
Ympulse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States287 Posts
November 11 2010 18:39 GMT
#23
On November 12 2010 03:31 keV. wrote:
This story is weird. Surely an all-girls school has dealt with lesbians before. They can't honestly expect to run an all-girls school without expecting their to be lesbians. Melbourne isn't Mississippi. Something doesn't add up, maybe the school is actually sincere in their defense

This. This is an all-girls private high school, there is going to be sexual experience one way or another, and the school knows this, assuming it's been around for at least 4 years.

I don't think this is bigotry in any way, shape, or form. Just high school kids kicking and screaming when forced to follow rules, instead of finding ways to sidestep and skirt them.

Also, if the school was as bigoted as everyone is making them out to be, the 'pre drinks' wouldn't have happened for fear of getting expelled before graduation for drinking underage.
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
November 11 2010 18:40 GMT
#24
My first reaction is that the entire situation is silly because the notion of gender segregated schooling is silly. But if you get over that hurdle and recognize that this probably wasn't meant to be a normal dance, then the official story put out by the school becomes a little more believable. I mean, are we supposed to believe that a school where students are sent to be kept away from the opposite sex is going to host an event primarily designed to facilitate dancefloor grinding? It seems more like an awkward attempt to set up a controlled environment in which the girls could develop some social skills.

Not that I necessarily believe the excuse the school gave, but I don't think it's plainly ridiculous when taken in context.
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Tnerb
Profile Joined May 2010
United States141 Posts
November 11 2010 18:40 GMT
#25
On November 12 2010 03:30 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 03:24 JamesJohansen wrote:
In today's day and age, you are forced to accept this. I suppose I shouldn't voice my opinion, I'd rather not get banned


I really appreciate your vague passive aggressive non-stance on this issue.


How is this a non-stance? He clearly is against promoting the idea of same-sex couples and is afraid of being persecuted (IE Banned) for his beliefs.

I wonder how many of you so called progressive types can see the blatant hypocrisy of screaming bigotry while at the same time stamping down on any opposition to your own view point.
Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 18:43:25
November 11 2010 18:42 GMT
#26
I think this happens like every month now in the States. Amusingly, for some reason it's always the lesbian couples you hear about.

Also, you'd think an all-girls school would be more, shall we say, experienced in dealing with lesbian matters. I mean, the steamy stories I've heard from all-girls catholic schools...
Vanimar
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
220 Posts
November 11 2010 18:43 GMT
#27
I Support Girl love in any way possible. I think it has unsurpassed beauty and should never be sanctionized by narrow-minded people!
Also: more pics? O_o
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32098 Posts
November 11 2010 18:44 GMT
#28
On November 12 2010 03:39 Ympulse wrote:
I don't think this is bigotry in any way, shape, or form. Just high school kids kicking and screaming when forced to follow rules, instead of finding ways to sidestep and skirt them.

Also, if the school was as bigoted as everyone is making them out to be, the 'pre drinks' wouldn't have happened for fear of getting expelled before graduation for drinking underage.


How else do you describe an event that only permits hetero couples??

though this is understandable i guess, you seem to not know what bigoted means
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trainRiderJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States615 Posts
November 11 2010 18:45 GMT
#29
''If we opened it up and said girls could bring another female they would all bring females; the policy is trying to create an event where boys are invited. We are a school that has an all-girls environment, and they are meant to invite guests, not partners.''


That's the thing I don't get. Is this a school dance/prom or something else?
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
November 11 2010 18:45 GMT
#30
On November 12 2010 03:40 Brent352 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 03:30 overt wrote:
On November 12 2010 03:24 JamesJohansen wrote:
In today's day and age, you are forced to accept this. I suppose I shouldn't voice my opinion, I'd rather not get banned


I really appreciate your vague passive aggressive non-stance on this issue.


How is this a non-stance? He clearly is against promoting the idea of same-sex couples and is afraid of being persecuted (IE Banned) for his beliefs.

I wonder how many of you so called progressive types can see the blatant hypocrisy of screaming bigotry while at the same time stamping down on any opposition to your own view point.

Can we not start saying stuff like "you are intolerant of my intolerance" please?
High five :---)
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 11 2010 18:46 GMT
#31
On November 12 2010 03:40 Brent352 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 03:30 overt wrote:
On November 12 2010 03:24 JamesJohansen wrote:
In today's day and age, you are forced to accept this. I suppose I shouldn't voice my opinion, I'd rather not get banned


I really appreciate your vague passive aggressive non-stance on this issue.


How is this a non-stance? He clearly is against promoting the idea of same-sex couples and is afraid of being persecuted (IE Banned) for his beliefs.

I wonder how many of you so called progressive types can see the blatant hypocrisy of screaming bigotry while at the same time stamping down on any opposition to your own view point.


He didn't take a stand on the issue, therefore he's not putting forth a stance. I'm cool with people thinking the school was justified or that homosexuality is morally wrong (though I'd vehemently disagree with them). However, I'm not cool with people who try to victimize themselves and claim they aren't going to share their opinions when they're basically already sharing their opinion in the most absurd way possible.

Imagine if I came into a thread about lynching or the holocaust being fake and said something like what he said. If you're going to take an unpopular stand on something then do it or don't post at all.
Tnerb
Profile Joined May 2010
United States141 Posts
November 11 2010 18:46 GMT
#32
On November 12 2010 03:35 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 03:22 RiotSpectre wrote:
It's bigotry, pure and simple. A similar thing happened here in the States (Mississipi, I think?) several months ago, a girl wanted to bring her girlfriend to the prom and the high school said no. When faced with the idea of a lawsuit, instead of letting the girl go the school called off the official prom in its entirity. Pretty disgusting behavior if you ask me.

http://thefbomb.org/2010/03/lesbian-teen-banned-from-prom/

^ The story


You forgot the part where they secretly rescheduled the prom without telling her

Austrailia's got its fair share of odd and dumb rules, but I never thought of it as Mississippi without all the in-family humping. Sad.


Once again blatant hypocrisy.

Apparently it's okay to imply that Mississippi is full of "in-family humpers" but if someone decides they don't like the idea of same-sex couples then that person must be persecuted and burned at the stake.

Just for the dim witted I will simplify it for you.

Racism towards Whites = good and "progressive"
Racism towards any other race or even just having traditional views = evil and "bigotry"

Pretty soon somebody will start talking about the Nazis and how this sort of evil bigotry could lead to another Holocaust.
Tnerb
Profile Joined May 2010
United States141 Posts
November 11 2010 18:48 GMT
#33
On November 12 2010 03:45 McDonalds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 03:40 Brent352 wrote:
On November 12 2010 03:30 overt wrote:
On November 12 2010 03:24 JamesJohansen wrote:
In today's day and age, you are forced to accept this. I suppose I shouldn't voice my opinion, I'd rather not get banned


I really appreciate your vague passive aggressive non-stance on this issue.


How is this a non-stance? He clearly is against promoting the idea of same-sex couples and is afraid of being persecuted (IE Banned) for his beliefs.

I wonder how many of you so called progressive types can see the blatant hypocrisy of screaming bigotry while at the same time stamping down on any opposition to your own view point.

Can we not start saying stuff like "you are intolerant of my intolerance" please?


Why? Because it is true?

Hatred and bigotry towards those you perceive as "haters and bigots" is exactly the same thing no matter what your politically correct media/schooling has taught you.
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
November 11 2010 18:51 GMT
#34
On November 12 2010 03:48 Brent352 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 03:45 McDonalds wrote:
On November 12 2010 03:40 Brent352 wrote:
On November 12 2010 03:30 overt wrote:
On November 12 2010 03:24 JamesJohansen wrote:
In today's day and age, you are forced to accept this. I suppose I shouldn't voice my opinion, I'd rather not get banned


I really appreciate your vague passive aggressive non-stance on this issue.


How is this a non-stance? He clearly is against promoting the idea of same-sex couples and is afraid of being persecuted (IE Banned) for his beliefs.

I wonder how many of you so called progressive types can see the blatant hypocrisy of screaming bigotry while at the same time stamping down on any opposition to your own view point.

Can we not start saying stuff like "you are intolerant of my intolerance" please?


Why? Because it is true?

Hatred and bigotry towards those you perceive as "haters and bigots" is exactly the same thing no matter what your politically correct media/schooling has taught you.

Haha.

Ok guys, enjoy the thread.
High five :---)
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 18:54:33
November 11 2010 18:51 GMT
#35
On November 12 2010 03:46 Brent352 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 03:35 Hawk wrote:
On November 12 2010 03:22 RiotSpectre wrote:
It's bigotry, pure and simple. A similar thing happened here in the States (Mississipi, I think?) several months ago, a girl wanted to bring her girlfriend to the prom and the high school said no. When faced with the idea of a lawsuit, instead of letting the girl go the school called off the official prom in its entirity. Pretty disgusting behavior if you ask me.

http://thefbomb.org/2010/03/lesbian-teen-banned-from-prom/

^ The story


You forgot the part where they secretly rescheduled the prom without telling her

Austrailia's got its fair share of odd and dumb rules, but I never thought of it as Mississippi without all the in-family humping. Sad.


Once again blatant hypocrisy.

Apparently it's okay to imply that Mississippi is full of "in-family humpers" but if someone decides they don't like the idea of same-sex couples then that person must be persecuted and burned at the stake.

Just for the dim witted I will simplify it for you.

Racism towards Whites = good and "progressive"
Racism towards any other race or even just having traditional views = evil and "bigotry"

Pretty soon somebody will start talking about the Nazis and how this sort of evil bigotry could lead to another Holocaust.


What does race have to do with this at all? Mississippi has plenty of black folk. Unless you believe only whites are doing the "in humping"
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
November 11 2010 18:52 GMT
#36
Considering that it's an all-girls school they are probably just afraid that they're all going to turn into raging lesbians if they see how much fun she's having with her GF...
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Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
November 11 2010 18:52 GMT
#37
On November 12 2010 03:43 Vanimar wrote:
I Support Girl love in any way possible. I think it has unsurpassed beauty and should never be sanctionized by narrow-minded people!
Also: more pics? O_o

Sadly no, (ok there's one more) but there is a video on the link which I just checked out

On a serious note, the video is pretty interesting as they briefly interview the girls, the principal of the school and a spokesperson for The Equal Opportunity Commission. It's only short, I suggest anyone interested to check it out. Link at the bottom of the OP.
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DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
November 11 2010 18:52 GMT
#38
Can we not start saying stuff like "you are intolerant of my intolerance" please?


But then they wouldn't be able to argue with you about it :[

If my hatred of close minded religiously brainwashed retards going around hating everyone different from them (aka people who don't get their life lessons from a crazy old dude in a robe with a stick) is bigotry then FUCK yes I am a bigot. At least my bigotry makes sense.
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Flying Duck
Profile Joined July 2010
18 Posts
November 11 2010 18:53 GMT
#39
On November 12 2010 03:24 JamesJohansen wrote:
In today's day and age, you are forced to accept this. I suppose I shouldn't voice my opinion, I'd rather not get banned


Yeah, fuck, I have the same problem. The other day I banned a girl from attending my school's dance because she brought a nigger along and got heat for it. In this and age you can't voice your opinions on how blacks are scum.

User was banned for this post.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
November 11 2010 18:53 GMT
#40
On November 12 2010 03:53 Flying Duck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 03:24 JamesJohansen wrote:
In today's day and age, you are forced to accept this. I suppose I shouldn't voice my opinion, I'd rather not get banned


+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, fuck, I have the same problem. The other day I banned a girl from attending my school's dance because she brought a nigger along and got heat for it. In this and age you can't voice your opinions on how blacks are scum.


You should probably tone down your metaphors.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
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