Announced today was a collaboration between SteelSeries and GUNNAR Optiks named SteelSeries Scope, professional eyewear for gaming that has been endorsed by Evil Geniuses own Jordan “n0thing” Gilbert. Following the break you can find the official press release, detailing this new product which is available now for $99 USD.
CHICAGO, Oct.20, 2010 – SteelSeries, the leading manufacturer of gaming peripherals and accessories, along with strategic partner GUNNAR Optiks, today introduced SteelSeries Scope digital performance eyewear for gamers in both prescription and nonprescription. The new line of co-branded pro gaming glasses powered by GUNNAR i-AMP lens technology is designed to improve visual efficiency, endurance, and recovery during gaming sessions. Expanding upon GUNNAR’s line of advanced gaming eyewear, SteelSeries collaborated with the company to customize a design with a larger, extended lens and a lightweight, comfortable frame. The eyewear provides gamers a visually enhanced experience while minimizing eyestrain and fatigue.
“We’ve built our brand on the belief that gamers want peripherals and accessories that provide a competitive advantage that will help improve their experience and game,” said Bruce Hawver, SteelSeries CEO. “When we announced our strategic partnership with GUNNAR earlier this year, it was our goal to collaborate on a product that would provide gamers with that same solution of an improved experience. The SteelSeries Scope is the result of that collaboration and we’re excited to bring it to market.”
“Partnering with SteelSeries has been a smart and beneficial alignment for both of our brands. With the introduction of the SteelSeries Scope, we feel confident that gamers will appreciate and value the efforts of this collaboration”, said Rob Aarnes, President, GUNNAR Optiks. “SteelSeries’ knowledge and feedback from professional gamers about design and fit is what makes SteelSeries Scope so unique to both PC and console gaming.”
SteelSeries Scope pro gaming glasses include a larger lens for extended peripheral vision, improving overall coverage and adding a consistent transition of sight. The new glasses also feature a SteelSeries-branded flat temple, designed for comfort while wearing gaming headsets.
More than just the design of the frames and temples, SteelSeries Scope lenses are optimized to enhance a user’s visual performance. GUNNAR’s proprietary i-AMP® lens technology is an optical platform that includes the following components that create this visual advantage: – iONik lens tint optimizes light transmission and color contrast to filter out harsh light and reduce eyestrain. – i-Fi multi-stage lens coatings filter transmitted light and protect the lens, with anti-reflective properties that cuts down on distracting glare and extraneous light. – diAMIX™ lens material offers an optically pure viewing experience with ultra-light, ergonomic properties; – fRACTYL™ lens geometry mimics nature to aid the natural focusing power of the cornea and lens while creating a preferential ocular microclimate. – Rx lens available in the Scope frame through Carl Zeiss Vision (see Eye Care Professional for pricing).
SteelSeries Scope Pro Gaming Glasses are $99.99/ €99.99 MSRP and can be ordered online now at both SteelSeries.com and GUNNARS.com. To find out more about the new eyewear as well as giveaways and promotions be sure to check out SteelSeries and GUNNAR on Facebook and Twitter @SteelSeries & @GUNNAROptiks.
mightve been nice a few years ago when i still had a CRT monitor. notice that progamers that used to wear progamer-glasses no longer wear them. also they were nowhere near $99.
Sounds like some standard anti-glare glasses with a design fit for headphones use and just the right field of view for gaming. Nice that they're including prescription possibility with this.
wow a pair of gaming glasses...lol never expected these to come out the eye-strain prevention is nice. However I rather buy extra RAMS than these glasses;;
"fRACTYL lens geometry mimics nature to aid the natural focusing power of the cornea and lens while creating a preferential ocular microclimate."
Mimicking nature to create an ocular microclimate? Who writes this stuff? And why is all the supposedly trademarked technology using alternating caps like a 14 year old thought it up
On October 27 2010 01:08 Ferrose wrote: Supposedly people like baseball players wear similar glasses/contacts to make their vision more sharp. Maybe these glasses are like this?
Yeah, these are quite the joke! The players who wear (and swear [by]) them are all payed a fortune to do so by GUNNAR. Every legit non-biased gamer/journalist who's ever tried them have confirmed them to be [very expensive] snake oil.
for anyone actually interested in anti-glare glasses for their eyestrain, amazon has a bunch for less than half the price of these. the most popular ones don't have the "progamer" yellow tint in case you don't want to look dorky in an office setting.
What happened to wearing just normal glasses? And I don't think that people who don't play like atleast 8+h a day would be interested in these glasses unless they wanna show-off to their nerd friends.
Holy Check! that looks Sweet but there is no way im going to wear it when im gaming, but i sure as hell could wear it for a Job interview! Wearing an awesome Tuxedo coming through the door like a boss /sits down at chair.
interviewer : Hey that is a nice glasses you are wearing, what is it? anything special? me: Im sorry i am not authorized to answer your question for my glasses are top secret classified. interviewer - Your hired! me- Good thing otherwise i would let my higher ups pull some strings to make things not so beautiful anymore for you interviewer- o_O
$100 for gaming glasses, really? People are constantly pitching unattractive, useless, products in the SC Scene for 200% markup, it's getting OLD. This isn't an established market, perhaps a deal would be nice instead of trying to screw over your own nerds. Boycott this nonsense. Granted this is just my opinion, I would be in full support if I didn't believe the prices were outrageous.
(Example, Razer's SC2 Keyboard/Mice/Headset. Glowing Headsets to check your APM...REALLY? Now you too can look like a disco ball while playing SC! Only $300!) *End of ragerant*
On October 27 2010 01:20 pred470r wrote: What happened to wearing just normal glasses? And I don't think that people who don't play like atleast 8+h a day would be interested in these glasses unless they wanna show-off to their nerd friends.
Comparable to mechanical keyboard technology, which is decades old. Re-marketing the technology and selling it for $100 or more. This or gaming glasses don't give you an advantage, but a "perceived" one. Nickle and dimed to the ignorant masses. Obviously this is targeting the "mom and their kids" who game and need the parents to buy them expensive, useless, crap.
On October 27 2010 01:31 ffdestiny wrote: Comparable to mechanical keyboard technology, which is decades old. Re-marketing the technology and selling it for $100 or more. This or gaming glasses don't give you an advantage, but a "perceived" one. Nickle and dimed to the ignorant masses. Obviously this is targeting the "mom and their kids" who game and need the parents to buy them expensive, useless, crap.
Hey, if companies were unable to fleece the upper class they'd go broke.
I hvae a pair of gunnars, I don't really like them for CS 1.6 though which was my game. Especially on maps like dust and inferno the yellow just fucks somethings up, and since I used the yellow crosshair it was just, bad for that.
if someone makes a product, someone, somewhere in the world will buy it, no matter the cost.
Don't knock the companies who makes these products, knock the people who buy them... after all if there wasn't a market for the product, there wouldn't be a product.
Companies put millions of dollars into market research... they don't just say "hey lets make glasses for gamers" and then do it blindly hoping someone will buy them
I can say from experience that wearing them and their claim that it makes looking at a screen for hours on end easier is somewhat true, at the same time I don't go on my computer for 8 hours in a row and think "shit my eyes are SO tired right now, I should have worn my gunnars". Quite frankly its a subtle difference, I dont necessarily think its worth the price, my pair was 45-50 bucks given as a gift, I'll wear them once in a while but like I said, it IS a fatigue that is extremely subtle and you will notice the difference wearing these glasses, at the same time the yellow tint makes them ugly as hell to wear to anything but an MLG event, where 60% of the halo kids buy a pair because they're the "in" thing to wear I guess (not like Halo guys are practicing for 12+ hours a day like SC players are, yet they still use them).
Overall, if you legitimately think you get tired from staring at a screen a lot, maybe you should invest in a pair but I wouldn't go totally out of my way to get one, and if you play counterstrike with a yellow crosshair, do not get it
The only reason it helps at the "high level" is because they get paid by Gunnar to say they help. Korean pros don't need them, foreign pros dont need them, nobody needs them, like I said it helps with eye strain somewhat but I guarantee that 99.999% of teamliquid, before hearing about gunnar, didn't think to themselves that "man, my eyes sure are feeling tired from browsing teamliquid for 4 hours"
Hmmm.... I dunno, doesn't seem like too bad of an idea. And IMO, I quite like the look, maybe a different colored tint would be nicer though ahaha The price seems a bit ridiculous though.
If I ever decide to get a pair, then it'll mostly be for the looks as I doubt it'll make all that much of a difference.
I work in an office staring at a screen for 10 hours a day, then go home and stare at a screen for a few more....and I still won't buy these. Maybe if they could make me a caserole.
When it's time to get my new glasses I'll go for a frame that's headset friendly, and maybe polarized lenses...but not this stuff.
Imagine if these had APM technology to start blazing red, would be quite awesome.
But more on topic, I guess products like these (overpriced and not mandatory over the old normal alternative) have their buyers, but still, this seems over priced.
Reduces the harshness on your eyes from the monitor while magnifying the screen a bit. Pretty nice. Definitely a luxury item that isn't "necessary" for gaming but if you have the disposable cash they add a bit of aid. That or you can sit with your face 1 ft from the screen.
half the comments in this thread make no sense, especially about the 'small changes' and 'markup' of these glasses. protip: most popular products aren't brand new, but an improvement over existing products.
actually i think these glasses are a good idea. if you have ever worn a headset and glasses for any noticeable period of time, your ears will hurt cause the headset pushes them against the frame that goes behind your ear. if this alleviates that, it would be a welcome change. having a lighter frame is also useful. anti-glare is good too obv. the stuff about eye relaxation i don't buy (luckily the other 3 properties i mentioned are easily quantifiable), but a placebo effect is just as good. overall i think it's a good package
the 'markup' isn't even large, since typical frames cost more than that. i'm actually worried these are on the cheap side construction-wise and will break if you drop them or something.
these aren't new. well the concept isn't at least. i remember seeing an ad for them a long time ago, pretty sure it was gunnar too. don't think steelpad was involved at the time though. thought it was a bit silly, especially since the ad had a 50cent-esque model for the glasses.
Why is everyone bashing something they havent tried? Cool concept, ppl who have tried similar glasses and posted say they actually work. I find it funny that stuff like this get bashed, while people jizz over the latest mouse flash is using.
I think they look kinda cool, but I would have to try them before I even consider buying them. GUNNAR actually has a ton of glasses with lens like these. The only thing new here is that these are steelseries branded.
Can you get these things on prescription? I remember seeing GUNNAR glasses ages ago and like the idea of reduced eyestrain, not that I can afford a pair but still, do they?
On October 27 2010 02:55 bmml wrote: Can you get these things on prescription? I remember seeing GUNNAR glasses ages ago and like the idea of reduced eyestrain, not that I can afford a pair but still, do they?
...from the OP.
On October 27 2010 00:55 Kunoshi wrote: introduced SteelSeries Scope digital performance eyewear for gamers in both prescription and nonprescription.
These are nothing new. I've seen programmers wear these to lessen the strain on the eyes that staring at a computer all day can induce. If it's a problem I suggest you invest in a pair to help, but my advice would be to just stop staring at a computer so much.. :s
On October 27 2010 02:37 {88}iNcontroL wrote: They actually really work.
Reduces the harshness on your eyes from the monitor while magnifying the screen a bit. Pretty nice. Definitely a luxury item that isn't "necessary" for gaming but if you have the disposable cash they add a bit of aid. That or you can sit with your face 1 ft from the screen.
But how are these better than normal glasses? ..Or glasses with a bit of sun blocking (light reflection)?
On October 27 2010 02:54 Seide wrote: Why is everyone bashing something they havent tried? Cool concept, ppl who have tried similar glasses and posted say they actually work. I find it funny that stuff like this get bashed, while people jizz over the latest mouse flash is using.
I think they look kinda cool, but I would have to try them before I even consider buying them. GUNNAR actually has a ton of glasses with lens like these. The only thing new here is that these are steelseries branded.
I gave my honest opinion, and I don't differ from iNcontroL's statement
I own a pair, they work, but dont really make a big difference, its not a lifesaver, it won't help me game for 2 more hours a day, because I'll stop gaming for reasons other than eye strain. Nevertheless they look weird and are embarassingly bad colored. They can come in other tints but I think the claim is that the yellow is best, but in the end the look of the galsses is NOT stylish whatsoever.
You're commenting on everything bashing it if they haven't tried it but you esem to be praising it without having tried it lol.
On October 27 2010 03:23 TOloseGT wrote: I would buy these for normal everyday wear, haha. They look stylish yet modest.
Trust me, I felt odd wearing them with my roommates in the room, they just look terrible haha. I couldn't imagine wearing them outside and having people on the street stare at you for havin gyellow freaking lenses.
On October 27 2010 02:37 {88}iNcontroL wrote: They actually really work.
Reduces the harshness on your eyes from the monitor while magnifying the screen a bit. Pretty nice. Definitely a luxury item that isn't "necessary" for gaming but if you have the disposable cash they add a bit of aid. That or you can sit with your face 1 ft from the screen.
But how are these better than normal glasses? ..Or glasses with a bit of sun blocking (light reflection)?
The idea is that it filters out certain of the harsher colors that emit from your screen so that its more soothing, i think its like dark hue's that are lightened up by wearing them. How are they better than normal glasses? Well I can tell you that polarized lenses don't do what these glasses do for a computer/tv monitor. It's not about shading your eyes, its about filtering certain harsher colors out.
On October 27 2010 03:55 Talia wrote: A Halo 3 team uses glasses that look a bit like that but I'm not sure if they use the same
A TON of halo teams use these, becaues Gunnar is a major sponsor of MLG, so halo players jump on those productsl ike hotcakes (sennheisers, gunnars, etc.) because they're advertised as the best to that community.
Pssh. That's crazy. I'm not gonna put $99 into these until I see Bisu or Jaedong wearing them. Although the InControl endorsement does bump the value up significantly...
On October 27 2010 03:55 Talia wrote: A Halo 3 team uses glasses that look a bit like that but I'm not sure if they use the same
A TON of halo teams use these, becaues Gunnar is a major sponsor of MLG, so halo players jump on those productsl ike hotcakes (sennheisers, gunnars, etc.) because they're advertised as the best to that community.
you mean Halo players Old-Spice-Guy-Swan-Dive on those products like Hot Pockets
People who buy these are the same people who bought gamer fuel, things with APM technology, and spent $20 for pixelated WoW ponies. Idiots, for lack of a better word.
The worst part is these people genuinely believe they're doing something to make themselves better at a video game (by throwing money at it). Either that or they're in some kind of "bigger gamer then thou" contest with other retards.
In 10 years time these people will be the new yuppies. The champions of idiotic over-consumerism.
For those that are familar with David Sirlin's work in the fighting game community, these are the glasses that he used to see Super Turbo in slow motion.
On October 27 2010 03:55 Talia wrote: A Halo 3 team uses glasses that look a bit like that but I'm not sure if they use the same
A TON of halo teams use these, becaues Gunnar is a major sponsor of MLG, so halo players jump on those productsl ike hotcakes (sennheisers, gunnars, etc.) because they're advertised as the best to that community.
you mean Halo players Old-Spice-Guy-Swan-Dive on those products like Hot Pockets
Hello folks , Im an Opticien-Optometrist here in spain (dont know the exact term in English sorry for translation on the fly) and I have some experience with this kind of Ophtalmic-filters as i have prescribed(recommended) them for some kind of Sport related uses such as Shooting where visual acquity is required at its best.
I'll try to explain how these yellow filters work:
The Amber filter that these glasses use reduces the Blue radiation that is the more common in the ambience visible light specter , and majority of LCD screens (in LED screens its a different story!) , but at the same time our eyes are the less prepared to see in normal conditions of lighting.
The Human Eye has the best color-sharpness at around 500-550 nm wavelenght which is exactly the ones that this filter lets through (this is noticeable by how you need best conditions on the lighting in a room to make a difference between 2 tones of blue in comparison to two tones of yellow or red.)
of course this is not suitable for a designer or people who need to see colors correctly as they modify color vision.
These kinds of filters exist since so long ago , my grandfather has a pair of "driving glasses" with this filter that were made long long ago , they only switched the use.
Of course they add Antireflective coatings and hardcoatings , just as all the high performance lenses today , and a curved lens can avoid evaporation of the tear a little bit so the product is not bad thought at all.
The thing that i find quite good is the price for the "normal" package ,but if you want to put your prescription inside there it could get rather expensive to make a lab lens with all these "extras" (filter+coatings+curved lenses).
Sorry about my spelling this was actually hard to pull for me ; apologies if i did not get clear at some point!
It's really unfortunate to see so many people dismiss these without even giving them a chance.
I thought this was all bullshit too, until I tried them. And not just wearing them for a few hours... I'm talking like a few weeks.
Now I wear them nearly 12 hours a day. Why? Cause I work in IT and stare at 4 screens all day... then I wanna come home and play SC2 or whatever, and my fucking brain wants to explode cause my eyes hurt so bad. I get migraines/headaches, eye twitches, temple pressure/pain - and it's because we stare at this shit all day.
Basically because of these glasses (I actually have the Gunnar Wi-Five's) I don't feel like shit anymore when I'm doing extended gaming or work related activities. And yes mine are prescription since I do wear glasses normally.
It's kinda funny because I'm one of those guys who was like, "WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE WEAR SUNGLASSES? Especially a $400 pair". People are ready to "protect their eyes from the sun" for $400 Oakley's - and then they end up wearing them for maybe an hour a day.
Well when people are ready to "protect their eyes from technology"... they'll buy Gunnars. And probably pay less than a pair of Oakleys.
PS I'm happy to answer any questions about the Gunnars as a USER. I don't know all the technical blah blah behind them, but I can tell you how they feel, what they do, and the results I get.
UPDATE: Someone in this thread said that anyone who buys these are an idiot. Well i think he misunderstands. I don't feel like I play BETTER cause I'm wearing some glasses. No one should. While they may offer some benefit in clarity and sharpness OBVIOUSLY YOUR FUCKING APM ISN'T GOING TO SKYROCKET if you wear them. But just like people say, "Play StarCraft when you're at your mental best". My personal "Mental Best" is not with headaches and eye strain. Therefore, they can help you play at your BEST... which is much different than BETTER.
On October 27 2010 04:25 Meatloaf wrote: Hello folks , Im an Opticien-Optometrist here in spain (dont know the exact term in English sorry for translation on the fly) and I have some experience with this kind of Ophtalmic-filters as i have prescribed(recommended) them for some kind of Sport related uses such as Shooting where visual acquity is required at its best.
I'll try to explain how these yellow filters work:
The Amber filter that these glasses use reduces the Blue radiation that is the more common in the ambience visible light specter , and majority of LCD screens (in LED screens its a different story!) , but at the same time our eyes are the less prepared to see in normal conditions of lighting.
The Human Eye has the best color-sharpness at around 500-550 nm wavelenght which is exactly the ones that this filter lets through (this is noticeable by how you need best conditions on the lighting in a room to make a difference between 2 tones of blue in comparison to two tones of yellow or red.)
of course this is not suitable for a designer or people who need to see colors correctly as they modify color vision.
These kinds of filters exist since so long ago , my grandfather has a pair of "driving glasses" with this filter that were made long long ago , they only switched the use.
Of course they add Antireflective coatings and hardcoatings , just as all the high performance lenses today , and a curved lens can avoid evaporation of the tear a little bit so the product is not bad thought at all.
The thing that i find quite good is the price for the "normal" package ,but if you want to put your prescription inside there it could get rather expensive to make a lab lens with all these "extras" (filter+coatings+curved lenses).
Sorry about my spelling this was actually hard to pull for me ; apologies if i did not get clear at some point!
Are these special, or are these already available for like non gamers? Just wondering if this is something new, or if it's just another thing where they just try to trick you
Would rather buy some better quality ones that arent specifically made for gamers if i could :D
On October 27 2010 04:25 Meatloaf wrote: Hello folks , Im an Opticien-Optometrist here in spain (dont know the exact term in English sorry for translation on the fly) and I have some experience with this kind of Ophtalmic-filters as i have prescribed(recommended) them for some kind of Sport related uses such as Shooting where visual acquity is required at its best.
I'll try to explain how these yellow filters work:
The Amber filter that these glasses use reduces the Blue radiation that is the more common in the ambience visible light specter , and majority of LCD screens (in LED screens its a different story!) , but at the same time our eyes are the less prepared to see in normal conditions of lighting.
The Human Eye has the best color-sharpness at around 500-550 nm wavelenght which is exactly the ones that this filter lets through (this is noticeable by how you need best conditions on the lighting in a room to make a difference between 2 tones of blue in comparison to two tones of yellow or red.)
of course this is not suitable for a designer or people who need to see colors correctly as they modify color vision.
These kinds of filters exist since so long ago , my grandfather has a pair of "driving glasses" with this filter that were made long long ago , they only switched the use.
Of course they add Antireflective coatings and hardcoatings , just as all the high performance lenses today , and a curved lens can avoid evaporation of the tear a little bit so the product is not bad thought at all.
The thing that i find quite good is the price for the "normal" package ,but if you want to put your prescription inside there it could get rather expensive to make a lab lens with all these "extras" (filter+coatings+curved lenses).
Sorry about my spelling this was actually hard to pull for me ; apologies if i did not get clear at some point!
Are these special, or are these already available for like non gamers? Just wondering if this is something new, or if it's just another thing where they just try to trick you
Would rather buy some better quality ones that arent specifically made for gamers if i could :D
Here in spain any Optics-store should be capable of getting a lens to perform just as good as these Gunnars by applying: Base-curve+500 filter+AR+Hardcoat to a lens , but as i said the price is quite adjusted in this product for what you get , And Zeiss is a partner of them so they cant be doing anything harmful probably the lens are made by Zeiss itself so quality is guaranteed IMO.
I do still think the price will skyrocket when you try to put prescription inside them , but its best to know this from the store directly
You could always mount this kind of filters in any frame prepared to put prescripition lenses inside , besides the curve you could reproduce this "Gunnars" with any model that you would like , but as I said before , its not cheap because its an Order Lens in most of cases.
On October 27 2010 04:25 Meatloaf wrote: Hello folks , Im an Opticien-Optometrist here in spain (dont know the exact term in English sorry for translation on the fly) and I have some experience with this kind of Ophtalmic-filters as i have prescribed(recommended) them for some kind of Sport related uses such as Shooting where visual acquity is required at its best.
I'll try to explain how these yellow filters work:
The Amber filter that these glasses use reduces the Blue radiation that is the more common in the ambience visible light specter , and majority of LCD screens (in LED screens its a different story!) , but at the same time our eyes are the less prepared to see in normal conditions of lighting.
The Human Eye has the best color-sharpness at around 500-550 nm wavelenght which is exactly the ones that this filter lets through (this is noticeable by how you need best conditions on the lighting in a room to make a difference between 2 tones of blue in comparison to two tones of yellow or red.)
of course this is not suitable for a designer or people who need to see colors correctly as they modify color vision.
These kinds of filters exist since so long ago , my grandfather has a pair of "driving glasses" with this filter that were made long long ago , they only switched the use.
Of course they add Antireflective coatings and hardcoatings , just as all the high performance lenses today , and a curved lens can avoid evaporation of the tear a little bit so the product is not bad thought at all.
The thing that i find quite good is the price for the "normal" package ,but if you want to put your prescription inside there it could get rather expensive to make a lab lens with all these "extras" (filter+coatings+curved lenses).
Sorry about my spelling this was actually hard to pull for me ; apologies if i did not get clear at some point!
Are these special, or are these already available for like non gamers? Just wondering if this is something new, or if it's just another thing where they just try to trick you
Would rather buy some better quality ones that arent specifically made for gamers if i could :D
Here in spain any Optics-store should be capable of getting a lens to perform just as good as these Gunnars by applying: Base-curve+500 filter+AR+Hardcoat to a lens , but as i said the price is quite adjusted in this product for what you get , And Zeiss is a partner of them so they cant be doing anything harmful probably the lens are made by Zeiss itself so quality is guaranteed IMO.
I do still think the price will skyrocket when you try to put prescription inside them , but its best to know this from the store directly
Ok thanks, i'll see what is cheapest/best quality here then :D
Just got bad experiences with products that say something like "for gamers". You buy them and then realise that the exact same thing is available without the "for gamers" tag, and 20% cheaper
On October 27 2010 04:38 djWHEAT wrote: UPDATE: Someone in this thread said that anyone who buys these are an idiot. Well i think he misunderstands. I don't feel like I play BETTER cause I'm wearing some glasses. No one should. While they may offer some benefit in clarity and sharpness OBVIOUSLY YOUR FUCKING APM ISN'T GOING TO SKYROCKET if you wear them. But just like people say, "Play StarCraft when you're at your mental best". My personal "Mental Best" is not with headaches and eye strain. Therefore, they can help you play at your BEST... which is much different than BETTER.
Have you considered that buying a pair of sunglasses is only sidestepping the issue instead of solving it? Glare reduction doesn't need to cost $100, you can easily solve the issue by setting up your computer in a better location.
If you're having having actual troubles seeing certain things on the screen then it's probably better to talk to an optometrist about your prescription (because it isn't working or you need one) instead of buying placebo-effect snake-oil products.
Most regular prescription glasses come with glare reduction. Computer screens can come with glare reduction too. These things ostensibly cost more money then "gamer glasses" but are also purchases you're making anyway.
EG's 1.6 team has been using these as well as the MLG Halo 3 pro Neighbor who is actually sponsored by Gunnar. I want to get a pair, but they're too expensive.
On October 27 2010 05:07 firefistAce wrote: does it help protect the eye from deteriorating vision from excessive computer gaming? if it does I would say it is a good investment.
If they magnify the screen in any appreciable sense, then they increase the damage you're doing to your eyes via excessive gaming.
On October 27 2010 04:38 djWHEAT wrote: It's really unfortunate to see so many people dismiss these without even giving them a chance.
I thought this was all bullshit too, until I tried them. And not just wearing them for a few hours... I'm talking like a few weeks.
Now I wear them nearly 12 hours a day. Why? Cause I work in IT and stare at 4 screens all day... then I wanna come home and play SC2 or whatever, and my fucking brain wants to explode cause my eyes hurt so bad. I get migraines/headaches, eye twitches, temple pressure/pain - and it's because we stare at this shit all day.
Basically because of these glasses (I actually have the Gunnar Wi-Five's) I don't feel like shit anymore when I'm doing extended gaming or work related activities. And yes mine are prescription since I do wear glasses normally.
It's kinda funny because I'm one of those guys who was like, "WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE WEAR SUNGLASSES? Especially a $400 pair". People are ready to "protect their eyes from the sun" for $400 Oakley's - and then they end up wearing them for maybe an hour a day.
Well when people are ready to "protect their eyes from technology"... they'll buy Gunnars. And probably pay less than a pair of Oakleys.
PS I'm happy to answer any questions about the Gunnars as a USER. I don't know all the technical blah blah behind them, but I can tell you how they feel, what they do, and the results I get.
UPDATE: Someone in this thread said that anyone who buys these are an idiot. Well i think he misunderstands. I don't feel like I play BETTER cause I'm wearing some glasses. No one should. While they may offer some benefit in clarity and sharpness OBVIOUSLY YOUR FUCKING APM ISN'T GOING TO SKYROCKET if you wear them. But just like people say, "Play StarCraft when you're at your mental best". My personal "Mental Best" is not with headaches and eye strain. Therefore, they can help you play at your BEST... which is much different than BETTER.
why not buy a cheaper pair instead of buying this overpriced garbage from gunnars.
ne1 who buys these glasses from gunnars due to looks is as stupid as the dumbass you mentioned buying oakley 300-400 sunglasses to wear a couple hours a day.
On October 27 2010 04:38 djWHEAT wrote: UPDATE: Someone in this thread said that anyone who buys these are an idiot. Well i think he misunderstands. I don't feel like I play BETTER cause I'm wearing some glasses. No one should. While they may offer some benefit in clarity and sharpness OBVIOUSLY YOUR FUCKING APM ISN'T GOING TO SKYROCKET if you wear them. But just like people say, "Play StarCraft when you're at your mental best". My personal "Mental Best" is not with headaches and eye strain. Therefore, they can help you play at your BEST... which is much different than BETTER.
Have you considered that buying a pair of sunglasses is only sidestepping the issue instead of solving it? Glare reduction doesn't need to cost $100, you can easily solve the issue by setting up your computer in a better location.
If you're having having actual troubles seeing certain things on the screen then it's probably better to talk to an optometrist about your prescription (because it isn't working or you need one) instead of buying placebo-effect snake-oil products.
Most regular prescription glasses come with glare reduction. Computer screens can come with glare reduction too. These things ostensibly cost more money then "gamer glasses" but are also purchases you're making anyway.
Let me correct this please:
Most regular prescription glasses come with Antireflective coatings , this prevent you from seeing reflections in the surface of the lens (the reflection of the screen in the lens that is in between) , giving you more comfort in general when looking at screens.
the yellow filter can help in the comfort as it is a way for the user to cut the amount of blue visible light that the user is getting through the lens , the blue light is predominant in actual screens and is the "harder to see" for the human eye (in the old PC screens it was different and therefore we the optometrists used another kind of filter that it was called VTD) so if someone spends 8 hours a day working with computers and on top of that has hobbies related with computers (like djWHEAT) I'd definetely recommend an Amber filter or a Rose Filter on top of that.
Stop bashing the glasses , theyre not a scam , sure you could also get a million other options at the optic store , but you should be informed by a professional before claiming this works or it doesnt.
Get reading glasses and sit the correct distance from the screen if you are having eye strain. They cost about 10-20$. These glasses don't do anything useful that the reading glasses wont.
On October 27 2010 04:38 djWHEAT wrote: UPDATE: Someone in this thread said that anyone who buys these are an idiot. Well i think he misunderstands. I don't feel like I play BETTER cause I'm wearing some glasses. No one should. While they may offer some benefit in clarity and sharpness OBVIOUSLY YOUR FUCKING APM ISN'T GOING TO SKYROCKET if you wear them. But just like people say, "Play StarCraft when you're at your mental best". My personal "Mental Best" is not with headaches and eye strain. Therefore, they can help you play at your BEST... which is much different than BETTER.
Have you considered that buying a pair of sunglasses is only sidestepping the issue instead of solving it? Glare reduction doesn't need to cost $100, you can easily solve the issue by setting up your computer in a better location.
If you're having having actual troubles seeing certain things on the screen then it's probably better to talk to an optometrist about your prescription (because it isn't working or you need one) instead of buying placebo-effect snake-oil products.
Most regular prescription glasses come with glare reduction. Computer screens can come with glare reduction too. These things ostensibly cost more money then "gamer glasses" but are also purchases you're making anyway.
Let me correct this please:
Most regular prescription glasses come with Antireflective coatings , this prevent you from seeing reflections in the surface of the lens (the reflection of the screen in the lens that is in between) , giving you more comfort in general when looking at screens.
the yellow filter can help in the comfort as it is a way for the user to cut the amount of blue visible light that the user is getting through the lens , the blue light is predominant in actual screens and is the "harder to see" for the human eye (in the old PC screens it was different and therefore we the optometrists used another kind of filter that it was called VTD) so if someone spends 8 hours a day working with computers and on top of that has hobbies related with computers (like djWHEAT) I'd definetely recommend an Amber filter or a Rose Filter on top of that.
Stop bashing the glasses , theyre not a scam , sure you could also get a million other options at the optic store , but you should be informed by a professional before claiming this works or it doesnt.
^^^ It's your money, man. I'm just trying to prevent people from making the same mistakes.
On October 27 2010 04:38 djWHEAT wrote: UPDATE: Someone in this thread said that anyone who buys these are an idiot. Well i think he misunderstands. I don't feel like I play BETTER cause I'm wearing some glasses. No one should. While they may offer some benefit in clarity and sharpness OBVIOUSLY YOUR FUCKING APM ISN'T GOING TO SKYROCKET if you wear them. But just like people say, "Play StarCraft when you're at your mental best". My personal "Mental Best" is not with headaches and eye strain. Therefore, they can help you play at your BEST... which is much different than BETTER.
Have you considered that buying a pair of sunglasses is only sidestepping the issue instead of solving it? Glare reduction doesn't need to cost $100, you can easily solve the issue by setting up your computer in a better location.
If you're having having actual troubles seeing certain things on the screen then it's probably better to talk to an optometrist about your prescription (because it isn't working or you need one) instead of buying placebo-effect snake-oil products.
Most regular prescription glasses come with glare reduction. Computer screens can come with glare reduction too. These things ostensibly cost more money then "gamer glasses" but are also purchases you're making anyway.
Let me correct this please:
Most regular prescription glasses come with Antireflective coatings , this prevent you from seeing reflections in the surface of the lens (the reflection of the screen in the lens that is in between) , giving you more comfort in general when looking at screens.
the yellow filter can help in the comfort as it is a way for the user to cut the amount of blue visible light that the user is getting through the lens , the blue light is predominant in actual screens and is the "harder to see" for the human eye (in the old PC screens it was different and therefore we the optometrists used another kind of filter that it was called VTD) so if someone spends 8 hours a day working with computers and on top of that has hobbies related with computers (like djWHEAT) I'd definetely recommend an Amber filter or a Rose Filter on top of that.
Stop bashing the glasses , theyre not a scam , sure you could also get a million other options at the optic store , but you should be informed by a professional before claiming this works or it doesnt.
^^^ It's your money, man. I'm just trying to prevent people from making the same mistakes.
¿?
I dont have them ... I'm giving my professional opinion as I am an Optometrist here in spain and have worked a little bit with filters for sports , I'm lucky and have a few gun-shooters that come to me to get their prescriptions for example ; and they make an exhaustive usage of filters of all kind depending on the weather and light conditions.
Go to an optometrist and depending on your situation he CAN prescribe you filters like these "Gaming Glasses".
Therefore , this is not a Scam its one more product that we have and should be welcoming him , not bashing it for some stupid prejudice.
On October 27 2010 04:38 djWHEAT wrote: UPDATE: Someone in this thread said that anyone who buys these are an idiot. Well i think he misunderstands. I don't feel like I play BETTER cause I'm wearing some glasses. No one should. While they may offer some benefit in clarity and sharpness OBVIOUSLY YOUR FUCKING APM ISN'T GOING TO SKYROCKET if you wear them. But just like people say, "Play StarCraft when you're at your mental best". My personal "Mental Best" is not with headaches and eye strain. Therefore, they can help you play at your BEST... which is much different than BETTER.
Have you considered that buying a pair of sunglasses is only sidestepping the issue instead of solving it? Glare reduction doesn't need to cost $100, you can easily solve the issue by setting up your computer in a better location.
If you're having having actual troubles seeing certain things on the screen then it's probably better to talk to an optometrist about your prescription (because it isn't working or you need one) instead of buying placebo-effect snake-oil products.
Most regular prescription glasses come with glare reduction. Computer screens can come with glare reduction too. These things ostensibly cost more money then "gamer glasses" but are also purchases you're making anyway.
Let me correct this please:
Most regular prescription glasses come with Antireflective coatings , this prevent you from seeing reflections in the surface of the lens (the reflection of the screen in the lens that is in between) , giving you more comfort in general when looking at screens.
the yellow filter can help in the comfort as it is a way for the user to cut the amount of blue visible light that the user is getting through the lens , the blue light is predominant in actual screens and is the "harder to see" for the human eye (in the old PC screens it was different and therefore we the optometrists used another kind of filter that it was called VTD) so if someone spends 8 hours a day working with computers and on top of that has hobbies related with computers (like djWHEAT) I'd definetely recommend an Amber filter or a Rose Filter on top of that.
Stop bashing the glasses , theyre not a scam , sure you could also get a million other options at the optic store , but you should be informed by a professional before claiming this works or it doesnt.
^^^ It's your money, man. I'm just trying to prevent people from making the same mistakes.
¿?
I dont have them ... I'm giving my professional opinion as I am an Optometrist here in spain and have worked a little bit with filters for sports , I'm lucky and have a few gun-shooters that come to me to get their prescriptions for example ; and they make an exhaustive usage of filters of all kind depending on the weather and light conditions.
Go to an optometrist and depending on your situation he CAN prescribe you filters like these "Gaming Glasses".
Therefore , this is not a Scam its one more product that we have and should be welcoming him , not bashing it for some stupid prejudice.
Mind telling the audience what this means then:
Product Features
* From our expanded online assortment; not available in all Best Buy stores * Immerse yourself in a rich visual environment and extend your gaming endurance with eye-enhancing technologies * Get a full view and added protection through highly wrapped, wide-covering eyewear * Optically pure diAMIX lens material delivers true images, lightweight wearability, impact-resistant durability and low color distortion * i-FI lens coatings filter wavelengths to neutralize harsh colors, giving you an unobstructed, clear view of the screen, and are scratch-resistant * Feel the comfort of the reduced visual stress, increased humidity levels and air current-blocking technology of fRACTYL lens geometry * Tune your eyes specifically to the light of your own environment and capture the healthy, helpful light already around you with the help of amber-colored iONik lens tints * Experience colors, characters and environments that pop with the sharpness of enhanced contrast * Get ergonomic comfort and long-lasting wear from the lightweight and stylish gloss-onyx frames * Color: gloss onyx (frames); amber (lenses)
Other then the fact that it's a bunch of bullshit to get you to pay $100 for glare reduction?
On October 27 2010 04:38 djWHEAT wrote: It's really unfortunate to see so many people dismiss these without even giving them a chance.
I thought this was all bullshit too, until I tried them. And not just wearing them for a few hours... I'm talking like a few weeks.
Now I wear them nearly 12 hours a day. Why? Cause I work in IT and stare at 4 screens all day... then I wanna come home and play SC2 or whatever, and my fucking brain wants to explode cause my eyes hurt so bad. I get migraines/headaches, eye twitches, temple pressure/pain - and it's because we stare at this shit all day.
Basically because of these glasses (I actually have the Gunnar Wi-Five's) I don't feel like shit anymore when I'm doing extended gaming or work related activities. And yes mine are prescription since I do wear glasses normally.
It's kinda funny because I'm one of those guys who was like, "WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE WEAR SUNGLASSES? Especially a $400 pair". People are ready to "protect their eyes from the sun" for $400 Oakley's - and then they end up wearing them for maybe an hour a day.
Well when people are ready to "protect their eyes from technology"... they'll buy Gunnars. And probably pay less than a pair of Oakleys.
PS I'm happy to answer any questions about the Gunnars as a USER. I don't know all the technical blah blah behind them, but I can tell you how they feel, what they do, and the results I get.
UPDATE: Someone in this thread said that anyone who buys these are an idiot. Well i think he misunderstands. I don't feel like I play BETTER cause I'm wearing some glasses. No one should. While they may offer some benefit in clarity and sharpness OBVIOUSLY YOUR FUCKING APM ISN'T GOING TO SKYROCKET if you wear them. But just like people say, "Play StarCraft when you're at your mental best". My personal "Mental Best" is not with headaches and eye strain. Therefore, they can help you play at your BEST... which is much different than BETTER.
I think what most people and me included have against this is the ridiculous price for something you can easily get. I had the same issues spending 8 hours at work and then someone when I came home infront of a computer screen. Started getting headaches, issues sleeping and a really annoying twitching. So I went to my mother (who works with people with visual impairments) and she sent me on my marry way to the optrician. He got me what I can only asume a pair of glasses with the same effect as these (seeing how they cleared up the stress on my eyes) for roughly 45$. That's half the price of these ones. I must however say that I recommend anyone that spends alot of time infront of a computer getting a pair of these kinds of glasses because they help alot in the long run.
On October 27 2010 04:38 djWHEAT wrote: It's really unfortunate to see so many people dismiss these without even giving them a chance.
I thought this was all bullshit too, until I tried them. And not just wearing them for a few hours... I'm talking like a few weeks.
Now I wear them nearly 12 hours a day. Why? Cause I work in IT and stare at 4 screens all day... then I wanna come home and play SC2 or whatever, and my fucking brain wants to explode cause my eyes hurt so bad. I get migraines/headaches, eye twitches, temple pressure/pain - and it's because we stare at this shit all day.
Basically because of these glasses (I actually have the Gunnar Wi-Five's) I don't feel like shit anymore when I'm doing extended gaming or work related activities. And yes mine are prescription since I do wear glasses normally.
It's kinda funny because I'm one of those guys who was like, "WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE WEAR SUNGLASSES? Especially a $400 pair". People are ready to "protect their eyes from the sun" for $400 Oakley's - and then they end up wearing them for maybe an hour a day.
Well when people are ready to "protect their eyes from technology"... they'll buy Gunnars. And probably pay less than a pair of Oakleys.
PS I'm happy to answer any questions about the Gunnars as a USER. I don't know all the technical blah blah behind them, but I can tell you how they feel, what they do, and the results I get.
UPDATE: Someone in this thread said that anyone who buys these are an idiot. Well i think he misunderstands. I don't feel like I play BETTER cause I'm wearing some glasses. No one should. While they may offer some benefit in clarity and sharpness OBVIOUSLY YOUR FUCKING APM ISN'T GOING TO SKYROCKET if you wear them. But just like people say, "Play StarCraft when you're at your mental best". My personal "Mental Best" is not with headaches and eye strain. Therefore, they can help you play at your BEST... which is much different than BETTER.
I'll ask if I were this playing SC 2, would the yellow coloring affect my view? Like for example I can't distinguish some units since they're also colored yellow? Thanks DjWHEAT already planning in buying this
Who would've thought that the same crowd that regularly shells out tons of cash on gaming mousepads and headsets could be so hostile toward gaming glasses?
On October 27 2010 04:38 djWHEAT wrote: UPDATE: Someone in this thread said that anyone who buys these are an idiot. Well i think he misunderstands. I don't feel like I play BETTER cause I'm wearing some glasses. No one should. While they may offer some benefit in clarity and sharpness OBVIOUSLY YOUR FUCKING APM ISN'T GOING TO SKYROCKET if you wear them. But just like people say, "Play StarCraft when you're at your mental best". My personal "Mental Best" is not with headaches and eye strain. Therefore, they can help you play at your BEST... which is much different than BETTER.
Have you considered that buying a pair of sunglasses is only sidestepping the issue instead of solving it? Glare reduction doesn't need to cost $100, you can easily solve the issue by setting up your computer in a better location.
If you're having having actual troubles seeing certain things on the screen then it's probably better to talk to an optometrist about your prescription (because it isn't working or you need one) instead of buying placebo-effect snake-oil products.
Most regular prescription glasses come with glare reduction. Computer screens can come with glare reduction too. These things ostensibly cost more money then "gamer glasses" but are also purchases you're making anyway.
Let me correct this please:
Most regular prescription glasses come with Antireflective coatings , this prevent you from seeing reflections in the surface of the lens (the reflection of the screen in the lens that is in between) , giving you more comfort in general when looking at screens.
the yellow filter can help in the comfort as it is a way for the user to cut the amount of blue visible light that the user is getting through the lens , the blue light is predominant in actual screens and is the "harder to see" for the human eye (in the old PC screens it was different and therefore we the optometrists used another kind of filter that it was called VTD) so if someone spends 8 hours a day working with computers and on top of that has hobbies related with computers (like djWHEAT) I'd definetely recommend an Amber filter or a Rose Filter on top of that.
Stop bashing the glasses , theyre not a scam , sure you could also get a million other options at the optic store , but you should be informed by a professional before claiming this works or it doesnt.
^^^ It's your money, man. I'm just trying to prevent people from making the same mistakes.
¿?
I dont have them ... I'm giving my professional opinion as I am an Optometrist here in spain and have worked a little bit with filters for sports , I'm lucky and have a few gun-shooters that come to me to get their prescriptions for example ; and they make an exhaustive usage of filters of all kind depending on the weather and light conditions.
Go to an optometrist and depending on your situation he CAN prescribe you filters like these "Gaming Glasses".
Therefore , this is not a Scam its one more product that we have and should be welcoming him , not bashing it for some stupid prejudice.
* From our expanded online assortment; not available in all Best Buy stores * Immerse yourself in a rich visual environment and extend your gaming endurance with eye-enhancing technologies * Get a full view and added protection through highly wrapped, wide-covering eyewear * Optically pure diAMIX lens material delivers true images, lightweight wearability, impact-resistant durability and low color distortion * i-FI lens coatings filter wavelengths to neutralize harsh colors, giving you an unobstructed, clear view of the screen, and are scratch-resistant * Feel the comfort of the reduced visual stress, increased humidity levels and air current-blocking technology of fRACTYL lens geometry * Tune your eyes specifically to the light of your own environment and capture the healthy, helpful light already around you with the help of amber-colored iONik lens tints * Experience colors, characters and environments that pop with the sharpness of enhanced contrast * Get ergonomic comfort and long-lasting wear from the lightweight and stylish gloss-onyx frames * Color: gloss onyx (frames); amber (lenses)
Other then the fact that it's a bunch of bullshit to get you to pay $100 for glare reduction?
Sure , these are all marketing names to things that already exist.
Optically pure diAMIX = Material the lens is made ; probably not polycarbonate as it has high color distortion , probably some kind of Trivex , or modified Acrilate.
i-FI lens coatings= antireflective coating.
fRACTYL lens geometry = Curved Base lenses , as they cover the "eyeholes" almost entirely (dont know the english word for that) they prevent a little bit the eye dryness , in front of the computer we can get to blink a lot less so its not bad thought.
amber-colored iONik lens tints= yellow high contrast filters.
And everything else is about ergonomics and confort.
youre paying $100 for a high contrast filter , not only for the glaring antireflective coating , and filters here in spain are expensive so its not a bad product or expensive product if its the amber filter what you are looking for.
On October 27 2010 04:38 djWHEAT wrote: It's really unfortunate to see so many people dismiss these without even giving them a chance.
I thought this was all bullshit too, until I tried them. And not just wearing them for a few hours... I'm talking like a few weeks.
Now I wear them nearly 12 hours a day. Why? Cause I work in IT and stare at 4 screens all day... then I wanna come home and play SC2 or whatever, and my fucking brain wants to explode cause my eyes hurt so bad. I get migraines/headaches, eye twitches, temple pressure/pain - and it's because we stare at this shit all day.
Basically because of these glasses (I actually have the Gunnar Wi-Five's) I don't feel like shit anymore when I'm doing extended gaming or work related activities. And yes mine are prescription since I do wear glasses normally.
It's kinda funny because I'm one of those guys who was like, "WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE WEAR SUNGLASSES? Especially a $400 pair". People are ready to "protect their eyes from the sun" for $400 Oakley's - and then they end up wearing them for maybe an hour a day.
Well when people are ready to "protect their eyes from technology"... they'll buy Gunnars. And probably pay less than a pair of Oakleys.
PS I'm happy to answer any questions about the Gunnars as a USER. I don't know all the technical blah blah behind them, but I can tell you how they feel, what they do, and the results I get.
UPDATE: Someone in this thread said that anyone who buys these are an idiot. Well i think he misunderstands. I don't feel like I play BETTER cause I'm wearing some glasses. No one should. While they may offer some benefit in clarity and sharpness OBVIOUSLY YOUR FUCKING APM ISN'T GOING TO SKYROCKET if you wear them. But just like people say, "Play StarCraft when you're at your mental best". My personal "Mental Best" is not with headaches and eye strain. Therefore, they can help you play at your BEST... which is much different than BETTER.
I'll ask if I were this playing SC 2, would the yellow coloring affect my view? Like for example I can't distinguish some units since they're also colored yellow? Thanks DjWHEAT already planning in buying this
I can only speak for the similar ones I have but your eyes much like with skiglasses gets used to it after a few minutes and you don't notice that it's tinted untill you take them off.
why not buy a cheaper pair instead of buying this overpriced garbage from gunnars.
ne1 who buys these glasses from gunnars due to looks is as stupid as the dumbass you mentioned buying oakley 300-400 sunglasses to wear a couple hours a day.
the ones you posted look like they're made for old grandmas and prone to breaking. and are you saying buying things for their looks is stupid? seriously, are you like 14 years old? gunnar glasses look pretty fashionable imo, and if people want to buy them just for that, you have no right to insult their intelligence.
and what's with all the hate and rage? these glasses are like $100 (a very reasonable price for a frame), and you have a professional telling you that their technology is not a scam. what more is there to debate? the amount of anti-fashion and anti-marketing angst in this thread is ridiculous (and frankly, embarrassing for TL).
On October 27 2010 02:55 bmml wrote: Can you get these things on prescription? I remember seeing GUNNAR glasses ages ago and like the idea of reduced eyestrain, not that I can afford a pair but still, do they?
On October 27 2010 06:09 SoLaR[i.C] wrote: Who would've thought that the same crowd that regularly shells out tons of cash on gaming mousepads and headsets could be so hostile toward gaming glasses?
lol. Well played.
Also, I'm trusting what the optometrist says. After all, he says he's from the country that produced the world's #1 ranked soccer team and tennis player.
This is nothing new. Anything that prevents strain on your eyes when focusing on a screen (you can use your imagination here) will stop your eyes from hurting.
Vision deterioration is a concern for long term players.
djWHEAT, how much we talking for a prescription pair? As a developer I'm looking at 2-3 screens all day as well and then when I get home... Thinking it might be a good investment but I'm not sure. Plus I don't think the company eye coverage will pay for anything but the most basic lenses.
On October 27 2010 04:38 djWHEAT wrote: UPDATE: Someone in this thread said that anyone who buys these are an idiot. Well i think he misunderstands. I don't feel like I play BETTER cause I'm wearing some glasses. No one should. While they may offer some benefit in clarity and sharpness OBVIOUSLY YOUR FUCKING APM ISN'T GOING TO SKYROCKET if you wear them. But just like people say, "Play StarCraft when you're at your mental best". My personal "Mental Best" is not with headaches and eye strain. Therefore, they can help you play at your BEST... which is much different than BETTER.
Have you considered that buying a pair of sunglasses is only sidestepping the issue instead of solving it? Glare reduction doesn't need to cost $100, you can easily solve the issue by setting up your computer in a better location.
If you're having having actual troubles seeing certain things on the screen then it's probably better to talk to an optometrist about your prescription (because it isn't working or you need one) instead of buying placebo-effect snake-oil products.
Most regular prescription glasses come with glare reduction. Computer screens can come with glare reduction too. These things ostensibly cost more money then "gamer glasses" but are also purchases you're making anyway.
Let me correct this please:
Most regular prescription glasses come with Antireflective coatings , this prevent you from seeing reflections in the surface of the lens (the reflection of the screen in the lens that is in between) , giving you more comfort in general when looking at screens.
the yellow filter can help in the comfort as it is a way for the user to cut the amount of blue visible light that the user is getting through the lens , the blue light is predominant in actual screens and is the "harder to see" for the human eye (in the old PC screens it was different and therefore we the optometrists used another kind of filter that it was called VTD) so if someone spends 8 hours a day working with computers and on top of that has hobbies related with computers (like djWHEAT) I'd definetely recommend an Amber filter or a Rose Filter on top of that.
Stop bashing the glasses , theyre not a scam , sure you could also get a million other options at the optic store , but you should be informed by a professional before claiming this works or it doesnt.
^^^ It's your money, man. I'm just trying to prevent people from making the same mistakes.
¿?
I dont have them ... I'm giving my professional opinion as I am an Optometrist here in spain and have worked a little bit with filters for sports , I'm lucky and have a few gun-shooters that come to me to get their prescriptions for example ; and they make an exhaustive usage of filters of all kind depending on the weather and light conditions.
Go to an optometrist and depending on your situation he CAN prescribe you filters like these "Gaming Glasses".
Therefore , this is not a Scam its one more product that we have and should be welcoming him , not bashing it for some stupid prejudice.
Mind telling the audience what this means then:
Product Features
* From our expanded online assortment; not available in all Best Buy stores * Immerse yourself in a rich visual environment and extend your gaming endurance with eye-enhancing technologies * Get a full view and added protection through highly wrapped, wide-covering eyewear * Optically pure diAMIX lens material delivers true images, lightweight wearability, impact-resistant durability and low color distortion * i-FI lens coatings filter wavelengths to neutralize harsh colors, giving you an unobstructed, clear view of the screen, and are scratch-resistant * Feel the comfort of the reduced visual stress, increased humidity levels and air current-blocking technology of fRACTYL lens geometry * Tune your eyes specifically to the light of your own environment and capture the healthy, helpful light already around you with the help of amber-colored iONik lens tints * Experience colors, characters and environments that pop with the sharpness of enhanced contrast * Get ergonomic comfort and long-lasting wear from the lightweight and stylish gloss-onyx frames * Color: gloss onyx (frames); amber (lenses)
Other then the fact that it's a bunch of bullshit to get you to pay $100 for glare reduction?
Sure , these are all marketing names to things that already exist.
Optically pure diAMIX = Material the lens is made ; probably not polycarbonate as it has high color distortion , probably some kind of Trivex , or modified Acrilate.
i-FI lens coatings= antireflective coating.
fRACTYL lens geometry = Curved Base lenses , as they cover the "eyeholes" almost entirely (dont know the english word for that) they prevent a little bit the eye dryness , in front of the computer we can get to blink a lot less so its not bad thought.
amber-colored iONik lens tints= yellow high contrast filters.
And everything else is about ergonomics and confort.
youre paying $100 for a high contrast filter , not only for the glaring antireflective coating , and filters here in spain are expensive so its not a bad product or expensive product if its the amber filter what you are looking for.
I love posts like this. His arrogant dismissal of the concept as pure marketting bullshit countered by teamliquids resident store of experts on everything.
I'll be completely honest, these were a godsend for me. Do you need them if you play starcraft for 2 hours a day when you get back from work? No, absolutely not. Will they make you play better? Probably not. But for me, as someone that spends 12+ hours a day in front of a computer screen these basically ended my problems with eye strain and headaches.
People really wouldn't understand why these are worth the money unless they were in our position.
So when are these available in europe? I'm having eyestrains too and looking to buy these or similar ones, but it seems Gunnars are really hard to come by around these parts.
I've had a special pair of very low tint sunglasses I've used for gaming/poker for a few years now and the I can really tell the difference they make in reducing eye strain from long periods of computer usage.
Someone PM'd me asking about these, since I own a pair.
The best way I can put it is this way:
I wouldn't suggest people buy them unless they thought to themselves "man, i sure am looking at a monitor a lot, i wonder if theres something that'll make it better" as opposed to "well, now that i heard about gunnar, maybe my eyes DO feel strained, i should go buy a pair"
On October 27 2010 05:06 nastyyy wrote: Why are people complaining about the price? How much are glasses usually? Aren't frames normally around $100?
No shit, especially considering a lot of people already own reading and computer glasses, in order to deal with eye strain.
In this thread, I just see a bunch of reactionary idiots getting worked up over something that they've somehow convinced themselves is meant to harm them, when it's just another product you can buy. I'm glad there's people like Meatloaf here to put them in their place (not that most of them will ever bother reading the rest of the thread anyways.)
On October 27 2010 04:38 djWHEAT wrote: UPDATE: Someone in this thread said that anyone who buys these are an idiot. Well i think he misunderstands. I don't feel like I play BETTER cause I'm wearing some glasses. No one should. While they may offer some benefit in clarity and sharpness OBVIOUSLY YOUR FUCKING APM ISN'T GOING TO SKYROCKET if you wear them. But just like people say, "Play StarCraft when you're at your mental best". My personal "Mental Best" is not with headaches and eye strain. Therefore, they can help you play at your BEST... which is much different than BETTER.
Have you considered that buying a pair of sunglasses is only sidestepping the issue instead of solving it? Glare reduction doesn't need to cost $100, you can easily solve the issue by setting up your computer in a better location.
If you're having having actual troubles seeing certain things on the screen then it's probably better to talk to an optometrist about your prescription (because it isn't working or you need one) instead of buying placebo-effect snake-oil products.
Most regular prescription glasses come with glare reduction. Computer screens can come with glare reduction too. These things ostensibly cost more money then "gamer glasses" but are also purchases you're making anyway.
Let me correct this please:
Most regular prescription glasses come with Antireflective coatings , this prevent you from seeing reflections in the surface of the lens (the reflection of the screen in the lens that is in between) , giving you more comfort in general when looking at screens.
the yellow filter can help in the comfort as it is a way for the user to cut the amount of blue visible light that the user is getting through the lens , the blue light is predominant in actual screens and is the "harder to see" for the human eye (in the old PC screens it was different and therefore we the optometrists used another kind of filter that it was called VTD) so if someone spends 8 hours a day working with computers and on top of that has hobbies related with computers (like djWHEAT) I'd definetely recommend an Amber filter or a Rose Filter on top of that.
Stop bashing the glasses , theyre not a scam , sure you could also get a million other options at the optic store , but you should be informed by a professional before claiming this works or it doesnt.
^^^ It's your money, man. I'm just trying to prevent people from making the same mistakes.
¿?
I dont have them ... I'm giving my professional opinion as I am an Optometrist here in spain and have worked a little bit with filters for sports , I'm lucky and have a few gun-shooters that come to me to get their prescriptions for example ; and they make an exhaustive usage of filters of all kind depending on the weather and light conditions.
Go to an optometrist and depending on your situation he CAN prescribe you filters like these "Gaming Glasses".
Therefore , this is not a Scam its one more product that we have and should be welcoming him , not bashing it for some stupid prejudice.
Mind telling the audience what this means then:
Product Features
* From our expanded online assortment; not available in all Best Buy stores * Immerse yourself in a rich visual environment and extend your gaming endurance with eye-enhancing technologies * Get a full view and added protection through highly wrapped, wide-covering eyewear * Optically pure diAMIX lens material delivers true images, lightweight wearability, impact-resistant durability and low color distortion * i-FI lens coatings filter wavelengths to neutralize harsh colors, giving you an unobstructed, clear view of the screen, and are scratch-resistant * Feel the comfort of the reduced visual stress, increased humidity levels and air current-blocking technology of fRACTYL lens geometry * Tune your eyes specifically to the light of your own environment and capture the healthy, helpful light already around you with the help of amber-colored iONik lens tints * Experience colors, characters and environments that pop with the sharpness of enhanced contrast * Get ergonomic comfort and long-lasting wear from the lightweight and stylish gloss-onyx frames * Color: gloss onyx (frames); amber (lenses)
Other then the fact that it's a bunch of bullshit to get you to pay $100 for glare reduction?
Sure , these are all marketing names to things that already exist.
Optically pure diAMIX = Material the lens is made ; probably not polycarbonate as it has high color distortion , probably some kind of Trivex , or modified Acrilate.
i-FI lens coatings= antireflective coating.
fRACTYL lens geometry = Curved Base lenses , as they cover the "eyeholes" almost entirely (dont know the english word for that) they prevent a little bit the eye dryness , in front of the computer we can get to blink a lot less so its not bad thought.
amber-colored iONik lens tints= yellow high contrast filters.
And everything else is about ergonomics and confort.
youre paying $100 for a high contrast filter , not only for the glaring antireflective coating , and filters here in spain are expensive so its not a bad product or expensive product if its the amber filter what you are looking for.
I love posts like this. His arrogant dismissal of the concept as pure marketting bullshit countered by teamliquids resident store of experts on everything.
To see if others might benefit from the glasses, I called up an expert. "They are unnecessary and I would advise against wearing them," says Dr. Kent Daum of the American Optometric Association. "If you're looking at a screen that isn't very bright, then sometimes canceling out glare can make [it] hard to see. Traditionally, if we're thinking about eliminating glare, a polarizing filter does that most significantly and best. Yellows have some effect, but not nearly to the effect of a polarized lens. It's much more helpful to get rid of glare by closing blinds or adjusting your monitor."
On October 27 2010 04:38 djWHEAT wrote: UPDATE: Someone in this thread said that anyone who buys these are an idiot. Well i think he misunderstands. I don't feel like I play BETTER cause I'm wearing some glasses. No one should. While they may offer some benefit in clarity and sharpness OBVIOUSLY YOUR FUCKING APM ISN'T GOING TO SKYROCKET if you wear them. But just like people say, "Play StarCraft when you're at your mental best". My personal "Mental Best" is not with headaches and eye strain. Therefore, they can help you play at your BEST... which is much different than BETTER.
Have you considered that buying a pair of sunglasses is only sidestepping the issue instead of solving it? Glare reduction doesn't need to cost $100, you can easily solve the issue by setting up your computer in a better location.
If you're having having actual troubles seeing certain things on the screen then it's probably better to talk to an optometrist about your prescription (because it isn't working or you need one) instead of buying placebo-effect snake-oil products.
Most regular prescription glasses come with glare reduction. Computer screens can come with glare reduction too. These things ostensibly cost more money then "gamer glasses" but are also purchases you're making anyway.
Let me correct this please:
Most regular prescription glasses come with Antireflective coatings , this prevent you from seeing reflections in the surface of the lens (the reflection of the screen in the lens that is in between) , giving you more comfort in general when looking at screens.
the yellow filter can help in the comfort as it is a way for the user to cut the amount of blue visible light that the user is getting through the lens , the blue light is predominant in actual screens and is the "harder to see" for the human eye (in the old PC screens it was different and therefore we the optometrists used another kind of filter that it was called VTD) so if someone spends 8 hours a day working with computers and on top of that has hobbies related with computers (like djWHEAT) I'd definetely recommend an Amber filter or a Rose Filter on top of that.
Stop bashing the glasses , theyre not a scam , sure you could also get a million other options at the optic store , but you should be informed by a professional before claiming this works or it doesnt.
^^^ It's your money, man. I'm just trying to prevent people from making the same mistakes.
¿?
I dont have them ... I'm giving my professional opinion as I am an Optometrist here in spain and have worked a little bit with filters for sports , I'm lucky and have a few gun-shooters that come to me to get their prescriptions for example ; and they make an exhaustive usage of filters of all kind depending on the weather and light conditions.
Go to an optometrist and depending on your situation he CAN prescribe you filters like these "Gaming Glasses".
Therefore , this is not a Scam its one more product that we have and should be welcoming him , not bashing it for some stupid prejudice.
Mind telling the audience what this means then:
Product Features
* From our expanded online assortment; not available in all Best Buy stores * Immerse yourself in a rich visual environment and extend your gaming endurance with eye-enhancing technologies * Get a full view and added protection through highly wrapped, wide-covering eyewear * Optically pure diAMIX lens material delivers true images, lightweight wearability, impact-resistant durability and low color distortion * i-FI lens coatings filter wavelengths to neutralize harsh colors, giving you an unobstructed, clear view of the screen, and are scratch-resistant * Feel the comfort of the reduced visual stress, increased humidity levels and air current-blocking technology of fRACTYL lens geometry * Tune your eyes specifically to the light of your own environment and capture the healthy, helpful light already around you with the help of amber-colored iONik lens tints * Experience colors, characters and environments that pop with the sharpness of enhanced contrast * Get ergonomic comfort and long-lasting wear from the lightweight and stylish gloss-onyx frames * Color: gloss onyx (frames); amber (lenses)
Other then the fact that it's a bunch of bullshit to get you to pay $100 for glare reduction?
Sure , these are all marketing names to things that already exist.
Optically pure diAMIX = Material the lens is made ; probably not polycarbonate as it has high color distortion , probably some kind of Trivex , or modified Acrilate.
i-FI lens coatings= antireflective coating.
fRACTYL lens geometry = Curved Base lenses , as they cover the "eyeholes" almost entirely (dont know the english word for that) they prevent a little bit the eye dryness , in front of the computer we can get to blink a lot less so its not bad thought.
amber-colored iONik lens tints= yellow high contrast filters.
And everything else is about ergonomics and confort.
youre paying $100 for a high contrast filter , not only for the glaring antireflective coating , and filters here in spain are expensive so its not a bad product or expensive product if its the amber filter what you are looking for.
I love posts like this. His arrogant dismissal of the concept as pure marketting bullshit countered by teamliquids resident store of experts on everything.
To see if others might benefit from the glasses, I called up an expert. "They are unnecessary and I would advise against wearing them," says Dr. Kent Daum of the American Optometric Association. "If you're looking at a screen that isn't very bright, then sometimes canceling out glare can make [it] hard to see. Traditionally, if we're thinking about eliminating glare, a polarizing filter does that most significantly and best. Yellows have some effect, but not nearly to the effect of a polarized lens. It's much more helpful to get rid of glare by closing blinds or adjusting your monitor."
Wow, there are experts that disagree on a given topic, SHOCKING!
On October 27 2010 04:38 djWHEAT wrote: UPDATE: Someone in this thread said that anyone who buys these are an idiot. Well i think he misunderstands. I don't feel like I play BETTER cause I'm wearing some glasses. No one should. While they may offer some benefit in clarity and sharpness OBVIOUSLY YOUR FUCKING APM ISN'T GOING TO SKYROCKET if you wear them. But just like people say, "Play StarCraft when you're at your mental best". My personal "Mental Best" is not with headaches and eye strain. Therefore, they can help you play at your BEST... which is much different than BETTER.
Have you considered that buying a pair of sunglasses is only sidestepping the issue instead of solving it? Glare reduction doesn't need to cost $100, you can easily solve the issue by setting up your computer in a better location.
If you're having having actual troubles seeing certain things on the screen then it's probably better to talk to an optometrist about your prescription (because it isn't working or you need one) instead of buying placebo-effect snake-oil products.
Most regular prescription glasses come with glare reduction. Computer screens can come with glare reduction too. These things ostensibly cost more money then "gamer glasses" but are also purchases you're making anyway.
Let me correct this please:
Most regular prescription glasses come with Antireflective coatings , this prevent you from seeing reflections in the surface of the lens (the reflection of the screen in the lens that is in between) , giving you more comfort in general when looking at screens.
the yellow filter can help in the comfort as it is a way for the user to cut the amount of blue visible light that the user is getting through the lens , the blue light is predominant in actual screens and is the "harder to see" for the human eye (in the old PC screens it was different and therefore we the optometrists used another kind of filter that it was called VTD) so if someone spends 8 hours a day working with computers and on top of that has hobbies related with computers (like djWHEAT) I'd definetely recommend an Amber filter or a Rose Filter on top of that.
Stop bashing the glasses , theyre not a scam , sure you could also get a million other options at the optic store , but you should be informed by a professional before claiming this works or it doesnt.
^^^ It's your money, man. I'm just trying to prevent people from making the same mistakes.
¿?
I dont have them ... I'm giving my professional opinion as I am an Optometrist here in spain and have worked a little bit with filters for sports , I'm lucky and have a few gun-shooters that come to me to get their prescriptions for example ; and they make an exhaustive usage of filters of all kind depending on the weather and light conditions.
Go to an optometrist and depending on your situation he CAN prescribe you filters like these "Gaming Glasses".
Therefore , this is not a Scam its one more product that we have and should be welcoming him , not bashing it for some stupid prejudice.
Mind telling the audience what this means then:
Product Features
* From our expanded online assortment; not available in all Best Buy stores * Immerse yourself in a rich visual environment and extend your gaming endurance with eye-enhancing technologies * Get a full view and added protection through highly wrapped, wide-covering eyewear * Optically pure diAMIX lens material delivers true images, lightweight wearability, impact-resistant durability and low color distortion * i-FI lens coatings filter wavelengths to neutralize harsh colors, giving you an unobstructed, clear view of the screen, and are scratch-resistant * Feel the comfort of the reduced visual stress, increased humidity levels and air current-blocking technology of fRACTYL lens geometry * Tune your eyes specifically to the light of your own environment and capture the healthy, helpful light already around you with the help of amber-colored iONik lens tints * Experience colors, characters and environments that pop with the sharpness of enhanced contrast * Get ergonomic comfort and long-lasting wear from the lightweight and stylish gloss-onyx frames * Color: gloss onyx (frames); amber (lenses)
Other then the fact that it's a bunch of bullshit to get you to pay $100 for glare reduction?
Sure , these are all marketing names to things that already exist.
Optically pure diAMIX = Material the lens is made ; probably not polycarbonate as it has high color distortion , probably some kind of Trivex , or modified Acrilate.
i-FI lens coatings= antireflective coating.
fRACTYL lens geometry = Curved Base lenses , as they cover the "eyeholes" almost entirely (dont know the english word for that) they prevent a little bit the eye dryness , in front of the computer we can get to blink a lot less so its not bad thought.
amber-colored iONik lens tints= yellow high contrast filters.
And everything else is about ergonomics and confort.
youre paying $100 for a high contrast filter , not only for the glaring antireflective coating , and filters here in spain are expensive so its not a bad product or expensive product if its the amber filter what you are looking for.
I love posts like this. His arrogant dismissal of the concept as pure marketting bullshit countered by teamliquids resident store of experts on everything.
To see if others might benefit from the glasses, I called up an expert. "They are unnecessary and I would advise against wearing them," says Dr. Kent Daum of the American Optometric Association. "If you're looking at a screen that isn't very bright, then sometimes canceling out glare can make [it] hard to see. Traditionally, if we're thinking about eliminating glare, a polarizing filter does that most significantly and best. Yellows have some effect, but not nearly to the effect of a polarized lens. It's much more helpful to get rid of glare by closing blinds or adjusting your monitor."
Wow, there are experts that disagree on a given topic, SHOCKING!
Dr. Kent Daum of the American Optometric Association vs. some guy on TL.net who claims "I am an Optometrist here in spain and have worked a little bit with filters "
Have you considered that buying a pair of sunglasses is only sidestepping the issue instead of solving it? Glare reduction doesn't need to cost $100, you can easily solve the issue by setting up your computer in a better location.
If you're having having actual troubles seeing certain things on the screen then it's probably better to talk to an optometrist about your prescription (because it isn't working or you need one) instead of buying placebo-effect snake-oil products.
Most regular prescription glasses come with glare reduction. Computer screens can come with glare reduction too. These things ostensibly cost more money then "gamer glasses" but are also purchases you're making anyway.
Let me correct this please:
Most regular prescription glasses come with Antireflective coatings , this prevent you from seeing reflections in the surface of the lens (the reflection of the screen in the lens that is in between) , giving you more comfort in general when looking at screens.
the yellow filter can help in the comfort as it is a way for the user to cut the amount of blue visible light that the user is getting through the lens , the blue light is predominant in actual screens and is the "harder to see" for the human eye (in the old PC screens it was different and therefore we the optometrists used another kind of filter that it was called VTD) so if someone spends 8 hours a day working with computers and on top of that has hobbies related with computers (like djWHEAT) I'd definetely recommend an Amber filter or a Rose Filter on top of that.
Stop bashing the glasses , theyre not a scam , sure you could also get a million other options at the optic store , but you should be informed by a professional before claiming this works or it doesnt.
^^^ It's your money, man. I'm just trying to prevent people from making the same mistakes.
¿?
I dont have them ... I'm giving my professional opinion as I am an Optometrist here in spain and have worked a little bit with filters for sports , I'm lucky and have a few gun-shooters that come to me to get their prescriptions for example ; and they make an exhaustive usage of filters of all kind depending on the weather and light conditions.
Go to an optometrist and depending on your situation he CAN prescribe you filters like these "Gaming Glasses".
Therefore , this is not a Scam its one more product that we have and should be welcoming him , not bashing it for some stupid prejudice.
Mind telling the audience what this means then:
Product Features
* From our expanded online assortment; not available in all Best Buy stores * Immerse yourself in a rich visual environment and extend your gaming endurance with eye-enhancing technologies * Get a full view and added protection through highly wrapped, wide-covering eyewear * Optically pure diAMIX lens material delivers true images, lightweight wearability, impact-resistant durability and low color distortion * i-FI lens coatings filter wavelengths to neutralize harsh colors, giving you an unobstructed, clear view of the screen, and are scratch-resistant * Feel the comfort of the reduced visual stress, increased humidity levels and air current-blocking technology of fRACTYL lens geometry * Tune your eyes specifically to the light of your own environment and capture the healthy, helpful light already around you with the help of amber-colored iONik lens tints * Experience colors, characters and environments that pop with the sharpness of enhanced contrast * Get ergonomic comfort and long-lasting wear from the lightweight and stylish gloss-onyx frames * Color: gloss onyx (frames); amber (lenses)
Other then the fact that it's a bunch of bullshit to get you to pay $100 for glare reduction?
Sure , these are all marketing names to things that already exist.
Optically pure diAMIX = Material the lens is made ; probably not polycarbonate as it has high color distortion , probably some kind of Trivex , or modified Acrilate.
i-FI lens coatings= antireflective coating.
fRACTYL lens geometry = Curved Base lenses , as they cover the "eyeholes" almost entirely (dont know the english word for that) they prevent a little bit the eye dryness , in front of the computer we can get to blink a lot less so its not bad thought.
amber-colored iONik lens tints= yellow high contrast filters.
And everything else is about ergonomics and confort.
youre paying $100 for a high contrast filter , not only for the glaring antireflective coating , and filters here in spain are expensive so its not a bad product or expensive product if its the amber filter what you are looking for.
I love posts like this. His arrogant dismissal of the concept as pure marketting bullshit countered by teamliquids resident store of experts on everything.
To see if others might benefit from the glasses, I called up an expert. "They are unnecessary and I would advise against wearing them," says Dr. Kent Daum of the American Optometric Association. "If you're looking at a screen that isn't very bright, then sometimes canceling out glare can make [it] hard to see. Traditionally, if we're thinking about eliminating glare, a polarizing filter does that most significantly and best. Yellows have some effect, but not nearly to the effect of a polarized lens. It's much more helpful to get rid of glare by closing blinds or adjusting your monitor."
Wow, there are experts that disagree on a given topic, SHOCKING!
Dr. Kent Daum of the American Optometric Association vs. some guy on TL.net who claims "I am an Optometrist here in spain and have worked a little bit with filters "
no super counter argument on this one? can we get a doctor that can provide a second opinion please?
This is nothing new guys. They have been advertising them for quite awhile in the WoW pro scene. Team EG Azael wears them all the time and advertises for them.
On October 27 2010 01:22 Slardarxt wrote: $100 for gaming glasses, really? People are constantly pitching unattractive, useless, products in the SC Scene for 200% markup, it's getting OLD. This isn't an established market, perhaps a deal would be nice instead of trying to screw over your own nerds. Boycott this nonsense. Granted this is just my opinion, I would be in full support if I didn't believe the prices were outrageous.
(Example, Razer's SC2 Keyboard/Mice/Headset. Glowing Headsets to check your APM...REALLY? Now you too can look like a disco ball while playing SC! Only $300!) *End of ragerant*
They were around way before SC2
Maybe they just partnered with someone else, but these glasses have been around for awhile. Surprised when I actually saw this post, it made me feel like I was living in the past or reading a Old Post being bumped.
no doctor, but like i said before, i guess theres a small difference but its not a world of difference where magically you feel like a king afterwards, maybe part of that feeling is a bit placebo too. I don't think that theres ZERO effect but I don't think its the difference between sitting in front of a monitor for an extra 3 hours or not.
Personally I'm waiting for gamer socks and the gamer diaper for WoW players is already in production.
I thought the glasses that change their light in flow were cool but this just seems like a huge waste of money. I mean look at the glasses Day9 uses? They break and he holds them together with tape and he is A-ok :D
I mean I got a filco, abyssus, and a qck+ mousepad and even I think this is redic.
I started using these glasses a week ago and my rating has gone up by 400 points. I used to be a complete scrub and was at around 1000 diamond, now i'm 1400! I attribute all success to the use of these glasses.
Designer frames cost way more than these. Steelseries is a kind of "designer". It's a brand and branded products cost more than generic stuff. It's the way the world works. No need to try to fight the man by dissing these glasses.
And for people who stare at a computer screen all day long, just the possibility of protecting your eyesight and preventing strain is great. My eyesight is terrible and if I could go back in time I would do almost anything to prevent the deterioration of my eyesight. (Putting in contacts everyday just isn't as convenient.)
Btw, nowhere does it say it increases your gaming skill.
Have you considered that buying a pair of sunglasses is only sidestepping the issue instead of solving it? Glare reduction doesn't need to cost $100, you can easily solve the issue by setting up your computer in a better location.
If you're having having actual troubles seeing certain things on the screen then it's probably better to talk to an optometrist about your prescription (because it isn't working or you need one) instead of buying placebo-effect snake-oil products.
Most regular prescription glasses come with glare reduction. Computer screens can come with glare reduction too. These things ostensibly cost more money then "gamer glasses" but are also purchases you're making anyway.
Let me correct this please:
Most regular prescription glasses come with Antireflective coatings , this prevent you from seeing reflections in the surface of the lens (the reflection of the screen in the lens that is in between) , giving you more comfort in general when looking at screens.
the yellow filter can help in the comfort as it is a way for the user to cut the amount of blue visible light that the user is getting through the lens , the blue light is predominant in actual screens and is the "harder to see" for the human eye (in the old PC screens it was different and therefore we the optometrists used another kind of filter that it was called VTD) so if someone spends 8 hours a day working with computers and on top of that has hobbies related with computers (like djWHEAT) I'd definetely recommend an Amber filter or a Rose Filter on top of that.
Stop bashing the glasses , theyre not a scam , sure you could also get a million other options at the optic store , but you should be informed by a professional before claiming this works or it doesnt.
^^^ It's your money, man. I'm just trying to prevent people from making the same mistakes.
¿?
I dont have them ... I'm giving my professional opinion as I am an Optometrist here in spain and have worked a little bit with filters for sports , I'm lucky and have a few gun-shooters that come to me to get their prescriptions for example ; and they make an exhaustive usage of filters of all kind depending on the weather and light conditions.
Go to an optometrist and depending on your situation he CAN prescribe you filters like these "Gaming Glasses".
Therefore , this is not a Scam its one more product that we have and should be welcoming him , not bashing it for some stupid prejudice.
Mind telling the audience what this means then:
Product Features
* From our expanded online assortment; not available in all Best Buy stores * Immerse yourself in a rich visual environment and extend your gaming endurance with eye-enhancing technologies * Get a full view and added protection through highly wrapped, wide-covering eyewear * Optically pure diAMIX lens material delivers true images, lightweight wearability, impact-resistant durability and low color distortion * i-FI lens coatings filter wavelengths to neutralize harsh colors, giving you an unobstructed, clear view of the screen, and are scratch-resistant * Feel the comfort of the reduced visual stress, increased humidity levels and air current-blocking technology of fRACTYL lens geometry * Tune your eyes specifically to the light of your own environment and capture the healthy, helpful light already around you with the help of amber-colored iONik lens tints * Experience colors, characters and environments that pop with the sharpness of enhanced contrast * Get ergonomic comfort and long-lasting wear from the lightweight and stylish gloss-onyx frames * Color: gloss onyx (frames); amber (lenses)
Other then the fact that it's a bunch of bullshit to get you to pay $100 for glare reduction?
Sure , these are all marketing names to things that already exist.
Optically pure diAMIX = Material the lens is made ; probably not polycarbonate as it has high color distortion , probably some kind of Trivex , or modified Acrilate.
i-FI lens coatings= antireflective coating.
fRACTYL lens geometry = Curved Base lenses , as they cover the "eyeholes" almost entirely (dont know the english word for that) they prevent a little bit the eye dryness , in front of the computer we can get to blink a lot less so its not bad thought.
amber-colored iONik lens tints= yellow high contrast filters.
And everything else is about ergonomics and confort.
youre paying $100 for a high contrast filter , not only for the glaring antireflective coating , and filters here in spain are expensive so its not a bad product or expensive product if its the amber filter what you are looking for.
I love posts like this. His arrogant dismissal of the concept as pure marketting bullshit countered by teamliquids resident store of experts on everything.
To see if others might benefit from the glasses, I called up an expert. "They are unnecessary and I would advise against wearing them," says Dr. Kent Daum of the American Optometric Association. "If you're looking at a screen that isn't very bright, then sometimes canceling out glare can make [it] hard to see. Traditionally, if we're thinking about eliminating glare, a polarizing filter does that most significantly and best. Yellows have some effect, but not nearly to the effect of a polarized lens. It's much more helpful to get rid of glare by closing blinds or adjusting your monitor."
Wow, there are experts that disagree on a given topic, SHOCKING!
Dr. Kent Daum of the American Optometric Association vs. some guy on TL.net who claims "I am an Optometrist here in spain and have worked a little bit with filters "
That is extremely rude and completely uncalled for.
Also, I love the Popular Science reference. They used Dr.Daum as a source and mis-quoted him. He happens to be one of the biggest proponents of vision correction for increased performance on the computer. http://www.prio.com/press/magazine/nyt.html We've spoken with him and with Pop Sci and the editors refuse to publish anything to clarify their error.
Now, that seems kinda fishy to me, given as it's Gunnar's response and doesn't really have a proper citation, but I still wanted to point it out.
I saw this booth at WCG. The glasses actually do make things sharper but I'm sure there are things you should improve on your game before glasses actually matter......
So to people that have these, how uncomfortable is it to wear them with a SteelSeries Siberia v2? As someone who owns that type of headphones, It is extremely distracting to wear my prescription glasses.
While I doubt it's going to make any difference in gaming ability for someone like me, after reading the research link posted in the reddit post http://www.gunnars.com/docs/ldrus.pdf I can say I certainly believe these would help people who spend a lot of time at the computer every day. I spend a decent amount of time on the computer ~6-8 hours a day on average (work), much more on weekends (SC weekends++), but I do notice some eye strain from that. Apart from that though, I might get them just for the comfort of wearing them with my headset.
Well I don't have a Siberia v2, but my headphones are the same style. and the pair I have (which is a smaller, thinner frame style) doesn't get in the way of the headphones at all, since they go over ear anyways.
I would want to clarify this , Im not defending the Gunnar lenses as something astonishing , I tried to explain what they do that is banning the blue visible light and then enhancing the wavelenghts that we perceive better , the concept is not bad , and some people can see them useful
Of course as Kent Daum says in that little quotation , the better way to get rid of the glaring is a polarized lens , but they will take out all the polarized light , and some of the electronic devices that we have in our days emit polarized light through the screens making us unable to see the screen through the polar-glasses , and polar lenses look exactly like sunglasses cat 3-4 so theyre not suited for dark environments like a mid-lit room. This all makes me think he has been misquoted here.
if you need correction , you need it , go to an optometrist thats a separate thing from these kind of filters.
if you want to know about filters for screens , filters for sport , or wathever other kind of filter , an optometrist can also help you...
And please dont be rude I was trying to explain things here , not trying to give the glasses properties that they dont have , neither saying these gunnar glasses are a godsend.
On October 27 2010 06:08 Licmyobelisk wrote: I'll ask if I were this playing SC 2, would the yellow coloring affect my view? Like for example I can't distinguish some units since they're also colored yellow? Thanks DjWHEAT already planning in buying this
Typically when you first put on the glasses it's very easy to notice the Yellow tint. But your eyes gradually adjust and much quicker the more you wear them. Most times I just forget that I'm wearing them and they are yellow until I actually take them off. But I've never had an issue distinguishing color and whatnot.
On October 27 2010 05:58 Hynda wrote: I think what most people and me included have against this is the ridiculous price for something you can easily get. I had the same issues spending 8 hours at work and then someone when I came home infront of a computer screen. Started getting headaches, issues sleeping and a really annoying twitching. So I went to my mother (who works with people with visual impairments) and she sent me on my marry way to the optrician. He got me what I can only asume a pair of glasses with the same effect as these (seeing how they cleared up the stress on my eyes) for roughly 45$. That's half the price of these ones. I must however say that I recommend anyone that spends alot of time infront of a computer getting a pair of these kinds of glasses because they help alot in the long run.
Fair enough. Just like I could go get a pair of jeans for $20 at TJ Maxx or go spend $150 at Lucky 7.
Do the $150 jeans make me run faster? No, they are just fucking expensive cause they are a brand and a style. To me this is pretty much the same thing.
They obviously are selling their "style" with the glasses. I actually love my Wi-Five glasses cause they match the "style" of glasses I like to wear.
So yes I do agree with you that there are much cheaper alternatives to the Gunnars.
On October 27 2010 07:01 okuraku wrote: djWHEAT, how much we talking for a prescription pair? As a developer I'm looking at 2-3 screens all day as well and then when I get home... Thinking it might be a good investment but I'm not sure. Plus I don't think the company eye coverage will pay for anything but the most basic lenses.
About $150 when everything was said and done. And you should check your eye coverage because many of them WILL let you get these types of glasses.
You should also just ask your company if they would reimburse you or perhaps make an exception because you do work with so many screens all day. Some people get away with buying crazy expensive chairs for their backs so maybe you can get the same for your eyes ^_^
On October 27 2010 10:05 blitzkrieger wrote: I thought the glasses that change their light in flow were cool but this just seems like a huge waste of money. I mean look at the glasses Day9 uses? They break and he holds them together with tape and he is A-ok :D
Funny you mention this. When we were at MLG DC, Day9 was telling me he really wanted to try out a pair cause he was getting headaches. He was asking all sorts of questions about them and seemed really interested. We share a similar eye twitch issue.
On October 27 2010 01:11 eggs wrote: for anyone actually interested in anti-glare glasses for their eyestrain, amazon has a bunch for less than half the price of these. the most popular ones don't have the "progamer" yellow tint in case you don't want to look dorky in an office setting.
On October 27 2010 07:01 okuraku wrote: djWHEAT, how much we talking for a prescription pair? As a developer I'm looking at 2-3 screens all day as well and then when I get home... Thinking it might be a good investment but I'm not sure. Plus I don't think the company eye coverage will pay for anything but the most basic lenses.
About $150 when everything was said and done. And you should check your eye coverage because many of them WILL let you get these types of glasses.
You should also just ask your company if they would reimburse you or perhaps make an exception because you do work with so many screens all day. Some people get away with buying crazy expensive chairs for their backs so maybe you can get the same for your eyes ^_^
Thanks for the reply djWHEAT! $150 is way lower than I was expecting - I will definitely follow up with their local retailer here in OK. My eye coverage is United Healthcare and I checked the pdf they sent around for 2010 but it still just says reimbursement/coverage for "Standard Single Vision" and bifocals/trifocals, which when we had spectera typically meant no special coatings. I think they will reimburse up to a certain amount for designer frames, which I assume these would fall under, so hopefully I can use that. But regardless, at $150 that's really not so bad considering... Thanks for the info!
I doubt they'd make an exception for me, as basically everyone at our company (and definitely every person in this office) is in the same boat, but you're right, it's silly they won't give more allowance for eye tech when yeah, every person here has one of those $700+ Aeron chairs.
It works in most programs as you can see I have most programs already. I still don't ahve a black skype skin but I don't spend much time on skype except using the voice function not the visuals anyway.
Dark gray text on black with dark grayish blue links is nice. Just make sure your papers are set to automatic for text color when you turn them in to avoid sending a document that looks blank XD
I'd say try this before wasting your money on $100 glasses... also take regular breaks to look at distant objects since gaming doesn't make you focus on far objects (sounds stupid but it matters, your eyes learn to focus close for far objects if that makes sense).
HOW TO MAKE:
In Firefox go to Tools > Options > Colors
1) Uncheck "allow pages..." and set color manually or use system colors. 2) Change mouse pointers to black in mouse pointer settings 3) Go to themes (Right click desktop > personalize). Go to window color and set all the text to a dark grey (better than white imo), and all background to black. Here is a link to what I use, should be default text.
There is also a really cool gray theme called "ThaImpact". Just google it, add "deviant art" to it if you can't find it for some odd reason.
For Google chrome go to the Wrench, options, personal stuff, and tiesto theme or w/e black theme you like works. For Firefox I use "darkfox" or something iono it should be one of the most popular.
My homepage is also "blackle.com" which is black google. The only issue is you can't search for images with it for some stupid reason.
Foobar2000 is the best music player ever and has black skins. VLC Media player is awesome and takes a black skin with black settings.
I'm actually thinking of buying those, with work included it's not uncommon for me to sit 12+ hours behind my computer a least a few days per week. And it gives you some style imo
On October 29 2010 17:38 Tyrran wrote: I suppose that there is no way to have them with vision correction . My eyes do not suport lenses, and i litteraly cannot live without glasses.
Give them vision correction, and i think i'll buy one. I often find my eyes to be very tired afte playing too much SC2 :p
Turn down the brightness on your monitor and push it further back. In general you want it arm length distance from where you are looking. and the default brightness on most monitors are garishly bright just as much as looking at a lightbulb. I turn my brightness way down on monitors it's unnecessarily you eyes will adjust for the lower brightness so there is no need for it to be eye damaging bright.
I am an Optician myself and i can guarantee you this isn´t the first Computer lenses on the market. None of them has had a sucess because its pretty useless to use such a tainted glass for gaming. Have ur proper dioptical power is much more worth. So before u think about to get one of these go and check ur vision.
ROFL at the capital letters and all the marketing names. Even if it works (I won't speak out against without actually trying them), their marketing communication plan is ridiculous.... are all the gamers 13yo ?
On October 29 2010 23:08 M0KAS wrote: I am an Optician myself and i can guarantee you this isn´t the first Computer lenses on the market. None of them has had a sucess because its pretty useless to use such a tainted glass for gaming. Have ur proper dioptical power is much more worth. So before u think about to get one of these go and check ur vision.
Would a pair of glasses with anti glare lenses help my eyes from getting so much ware from just my work day? I have to look at text for 8 hours a day and then half the time I spend a majority of my night on the computer as well so there have been times where my eyes just feel extremely drained and even dried.
Blink more often and use eye drops (visine/cleareyes), it helps keep the eyes moist. At work or at home I take at least a 5 min break each hour, wether to deal with some paperwork or just walk around and strech. You'll avoid more than just eye strain by doing so =)
On October 30 2010 00:47 AeroGear wrote: Blink more often and use eye drops (visine/cleareyes), it helps keep the eyes moist. At work or at home I take at least a 5 min break each hour, wether to deal with some paperwork or just walk around and strech. You'll avoid more than just eye strain by doing so =)
I try to get up and walk around when I notice that I'm doing it but yeah.. I should really blink more lol. I find that if I'm reading something I don't blink for a very long time.
I've been seeing these around the lan and live events and always just wondered why do they wear them. Well now I know, but either way I rather not wear my glasses in front of the computer. I feel like it's just worse and especially since I can see close, but not far.
With purchase you get a code that you enter on b.net to disable fog of war in your ladder games allowing for the ultimate gaming experience.
but seriously? contacts allow me to keep my eyes open for longer than when I wear my glasses so if I want an advantage id have a artificial tear drop feeder so i never have to blink.
Well due to the slew of nerd rage I can't tell but does someone such as myself who doesn't need glasses at the computer but uses the computer for many hours daily get use out of this? Anyone here get this without the perscription?
How much easier will my eyes be treated, and are the comfortable compared to regular glasses? Are these good for my eyes and vision in the long term?
On October 30 2010 17:05 Carefoot wrote: Well due to the slew of nerd rage I can't tell but does someone such as myself who doesn't need glasses at the computer but uses the computer for many hours daily get use out of this? Anyone here get this without the perscription?
How much easier will my eyes be treated, and are the comfortable compared to regular glasses? Are these good for my eyes and vision in the long term?
They could potentially help you in the long run but results will vary from person to person. There is a lot of review videos on YouTube, I'd check those out.
Something like this can be useful in tournament situations where you're playing on stage with huge spotlights etc. I remember how troubling it was for me at blizzcon & regionals to discern the monitor with the way the stage lights were set up. Although, maybe polarized lenses are better for this.
Gunnar's have been around for a while and are actually useful. I got them for when I was playing halo because sometimes when I would be playing it would bother my eyes, usually because of the movements I would be doing or maybe certain maps. But got really annoying sometimes.
After I got Gunnars I have never had this problem, I usually don't wear them when playing SC2 but they do have purpose and can be very useful.
I won a pair of these in a raffle. They look really cool but they're definitely designed for people with high nose bridges (caucasians). If you want them and you're asian, prepare to have those nose pads digging into your eyes.
I installed that program during the day and checked the 24h preview and I thought it sucks, but when it became dark outside I decided to give it another shot, turned off the lights, and now it's been 30 minutes since I'm using it and I'm thinking how the hell have I browsed the internet at night without it lol.
Got these for a present (I get headaches frequently, thought they could help). Well I didn't get the steelseries ones, but I got the ones similar for $20 less... They're a joke. The made for headphones propaganda is just untrue, THESE HURT MY HEAD MORE than my regular glasses...! It barely helped eye strain, most likely it was just a placebo effect to make them seem worth the price tag (again thank god I didn't buy them...).
Though I did feel like my eyes were in better shape during long gaming sessions, so I guess that's a plus. But the problem was, was that THEY KILLED the sides of my head when using them with headphones. If you plan on gaming for 12 hours straight, sure they might be worth it (probably not because of the head pains you will get if you use headphones)... But honestly, who stares exclusively at a screen for 12 hours STRAIGHT!?
Verdict: Gunnars are a waste of time and money (time as in seeing if they work, realizing you wasted your time seeing if they were worth it..).
Edit: Really sad I didn't return them within the 30 days.
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