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On October 25 2010 12:01 Draconizard wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2010 11:54 Alexhandr wrote:On October 25 2010 11:52 Draconizard wrote:On October 25 2010 11:49 Alexhandr wrote:On October 25 2010 11:46 Draconizard wrote:On October 25 2010 11:32 Alexhandr wrote:
-Proudly walks forward, head held high, American flag in one hand, and a Bible in the other.-
Yeah, I like O'Donnell. Yes, I am an Evangelical Christian. Yeah, I'm a Young Earth Creationist. I do not believe in global warming or evolution. I am a fiscal and social conservative. I am for capital punishment. I think waterboarding should be legal. I find affirmative action pathetic. I believe abortion is murder and that women should not be allowed on the frontlines of war. Government is supposed to have one purpose and one purpose alone: to protect its citizens from enemies, both foreign and domestic, not to protect its citizens from themselves.
I do not care who you make love to or what you do in your bedroom. I do not care if we choose to legalize marijuana. I don't care if homosexuals choose to adopt.
I watch Fox News. I watch Glenn Beck. I believe Jesus Christ is the one and only way to Heaven.
I've confessed who I am and what I believe. I decided to do it here and now. I say this because I want to see how many people automatically cast me out as a sane person or as a person who can be befriended. -Tips my hat.-
On O'Donnell. The masturbation thing, eh. So what if she finds it immoral? What can she do about it? Nothing. So what if she's a YEC? How does that affect you? That's right, it doesn't. Those are her beliefs. People in the Obama administration find eugenics okay. That's disgusting and racist, but no one dares talk about that, eh? Proudly proclaiming yourself as a young earth creationist (as if the regular variety were not ridiculous enough) pretty much destroys any claim you have to rationality. The rest of your views are merely ancillary. So you are saying I should be ashamed of my faith and my beliefs, and because my views are not your own, I am irrational? I find that to be closed minded. You are irrational; that is undeniable. Whether you should be ashamed or not is entirely up to you. I find my beliefs to be perfectly rational, and yours to be irrational. It is all a matter of point of view. It is not a matter of point of view. Young earth creationism attempts to displace accepted scientific theories in geology, and so it must also be evaluated as a scientific hypothesis. You are irrational because you cling to a theory that has little to no evidence for it and vast amounts of evidence against it. "Belief" does not come into this at all; it has no place in this discussion.
Since when do beliefs not partake in this discussion? Last time I checked, there were many posts slamming O'Donnell for being a YEC and finding masturbation wrong. Those are her beliefs, yes?
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On October 25 2010 11:59 Alexhandr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2010 11:54 Pervect wrote:That's gotta be a troll account, people like that don't exist outside of FreeRepublic... right? ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/nLHOF.png) That is like the tenth time I have been called a troll. Where I come from, MOST people believe as I do. Amazing, isn't it? But even the ones that don't believe as me and most of my community does, we still love them and take them with open arms. So what if they don't believe as we do? That does not make them any less rational or any less of a human being as us. My faith is based upon love, reliance upon one another and God, mercy, compassion, and forgiveness. I don't see how this could harm society in any way, or how O'Donnell is a moron for believing in what she does.
It can, because if elected she'll be making public policy decisions which impact others based upon incorrect information, beliefs, and a complete disregard for evidence and reason. A bias toward her beliefs, based upon a book which has been retconned more than the Marvel Universe, interpreted a million different ways (both simultaneously and during different eras), and which has a completely arbitrary 'ethical code' is something that anyone who's capable of critical thought should stand against.
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On October 25 2010 12:03 neohero9 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2010 11:59 Alexhandr wrote:On October 25 2010 11:54 Pervect wrote:That's gotta be a troll account, people like that don't exist outside of FreeRepublic... right? That is like the tenth time I have been called a troll. Where I come from, MOST people believe as I do. Amazing, isn't it? But even the ones that don't believe as me and most of my community does, we still love them and take them with open arms. So what if they don't believe as we do? That does not make them any less rational or any less of a human being as us. My faith is based upon love, reliance upon one another and God, mercy, compassion, and forgiveness. I don't see how this could harm society in any way, or how O'Donnell is a moron for believing in what she does. It can, because if elected she'll be making public policy decisions which impact others based upon incorrect information, beliefs, and a complete disregard for evidence and reason. A bias toward her beliefs, based upon a book which has been retconned more than the Marvel Universe, interpreted a million different ways (both simultaneously and during different eras), and which has a completely arbitrary ethical code is something that anyone who's capable of critical thought should stand against.
Yet I, many people around me, (and by many people I mean most of my town and many towns in America) are quite capable of critical thought. And she is going to be making decisions based upon what the majority of her voters want, not what she wants. At least if she is any decent politician she will do what the people want. So far it seems only insults are thrown at O'Donnell and people like her. I don't find that necessary. (Calling someone incapable of critical thought is indeed an insult.)
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On October 25 2010 12:01 Alexhandr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2010 12:00 metaldragon wrote:On October 25 2010 11:54 Alexhandr wrote:On October 25 2010 11:52 Draconizard wrote:On October 25 2010 11:49 Alexhandr wrote:On October 25 2010 11:46 Draconizard wrote:On October 25 2010 11:32 Alexhandr wrote:
-Proudly walks forward, head held high, American flag in one hand, and a Bible in the other.-
Yeah, I like O'Donnell. Yes, I am an Evangelical Christian. Yeah, I'm a Young Earth Creationist. I do not believe in global warming or evolution. I am a fiscal and social conservative. I am for capital punishment. I think waterboarding should be legal. I find affirmative action pathetic. I believe abortion is murder and that women should not be allowed on the frontlines of war. Government is supposed to have one purpose and one purpose alone: to protect its citizens from enemies, both foreign and domestic, not to protect its citizens from themselves.
I do not care who you make love to or what you do in your bedroom. I do not care if we choose to legalize marijuana. I don't care if homosexuals choose to adopt.
I watch Fox News. I watch Glenn Beck. I believe Jesus Christ is the one and only way to Heaven.
I've confessed who I am and what I believe. I decided to do it here and now. I say this because I want to see how many people automatically cast me out as a sane person or as a person who can be befriended. -Tips my hat.-
On O'Donnell. The masturbation thing, eh. So what if she finds it immoral? What can she do about it? Nothing. So what if she's a YEC? How does that affect you? That's right, it doesn't. Those are her beliefs. People in the Obama administration find eugenics okay. That's disgusting and racist, but no one dares talk about that, eh? Proudly proclaiming yourself as a young earth creationist (as if the regular variety were not ridiculous enough) pretty much destroys any claim you have to rationality. The rest of your views are merely ancillary. So you are saying I should be ashamed of my faith and my beliefs, and because my views are not your own, I am irrational? I find that to be closed minded. You are irrational; that is undeniable. Whether you should be ashamed or not is entirely up to you. I find my beliefs to be perfectly rational, and yours to be irrational. It is all a matter of point of view. The fact that you thinking "rationality" is "just a point of view" is down right delusional in this day and age. Its like... 1+1=2 well i think 1+1=3 after all math is just a "point of view" Some people find eugenics "rational". That is irrational to me. But to those who believe eugenics is fine, they think it is rational. See where I'm getting this?
eugenics issues are morals issues and moral issues are almost always relative
Scientific issue are NOT relative at all in most cases
Young earth creationist Are irrational because they deny REAL FACTS
people who don't believe in evolution deny REAL FACTS
Its not a matter of "well its a point of view"
Its a matter of people refusing to accept scientific facts.
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On October 25 2010 12:02 Alexhandr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2010 12:01 Draconizard wrote:On October 25 2010 11:54 Alexhandr wrote:On October 25 2010 11:52 Draconizard wrote:On October 25 2010 11:49 Alexhandr wrote:On October 25 2010 11:46 Draconizard wrote:On October 25 2010 11:32 Alexhandr wrote:
-Proudly walks forward, head held high, American flag in one hand, and a Bible in the other.-
Yeah, I like O'Donnell. Yes, I am an Evangelical Christian. Yeah, I'm a Young Earth Creationist. I do not believe in global warming or evolution. I am a fiscal and social conservative. I am for capital punishment. I think waterboarding should be legal. I find affirmative action pathetic. I believe abortion is murder and that women should not be allowed on the frontlines of war. Government is supposed to have one purpose and one purpose alone: to protect its citizens from enemies, both foreign and domestic, not to protect its citizens from themselves.
I do not care who you make love to or what you do in your bedroom. I do not care if we choose to legalize marijuana. I don't care if homosexuals choose to adopt.
I watch Fox News. I watch Glenn Beck. I believe Jesus Christ is the one and only way to Heaven.
I've confessed who I am and what I believe. I decided to do it here and now. I say this because I want to see how many people automatically cast me out as a sane person or as a person who can be befriended. -Tips my hat.-
On O'Donnell. The masturbation thing, eh. So what if she finds it immoral? What can she do about it? Nothing. So what if she's a YEC? How does that affect you? That's right, it doesn't. Those are her beliefs. People in the Obama administration find eugenics okay. That's disgusting and racist, but no one dares talk about that, eh? Proudly proclaiming yourself as a young earth creationist (as if the regular variety were not ridiculous enough) pretty much destroys any claim you have to rationality. The rest of your views are merely ancillary. So you are saying I should be ashamed of my faith and my beliefs, and because my views are not your own, I am irrational? I find that to be closed minded. You are irrational; that is undeniable. Whether you should be ashamed or not is entirely up to you. I find my beliefs to be perfectly rational, and yours to be irrational. It is all a matter of point of view. It is not a matter of point of view. Young earth creationism attempts to displace accepted scientific theories in geology, and so it must also be evaluated as a scientific hypothesis. You are irrational because you cling to a theory that has little to no evidence for it and vast amounts of evidence against it. "Belief" does not come into this at all; it has no place in this discussion. Since when do beliefs not partake in this discussion? Last time I checked, there were many posts slamming O'Donnell for being a YEC and finding masturbation wrong. Those are her beliefs, yes?
As I have said, being a young earth creationist is not a matter of belief. You almost certainly buy into it because to your beliefs, but it is still (or at least it attempts to be) a scientific theory. As such, it is clearly evaluable and has been many times. Thus, those like O'Donnell and yourself who still cleave to it are rightly disparaged
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The Earth is not six thousand years old, humans did not ride Dinosaurs, case closed. Stop trying to get this thread closed.
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On October 25 2010 12:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The Earth is not six thousand years old, humans did not ride Dinosaurs, case closed. Stop trying to get this thread closed.
Source?
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On October 25 2010 12:09 FindingPride wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2010 12:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The Earth is not six thousand years old, humans did not ride Dinosaurs, case closed. Stop trying to get this thread closed. Source?
lmfao I cant tell if he really wants a source or not.
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On October 25 2010 12:09 FindingPride wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2010 12:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The Earth is not six thousand years old, humans did not ride Dinosaurs, case closed. Stop trying to get this thread closed. Source?
+ Show Spoiler +
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hahaa, i couldn't help my self. sorry But ye. If she does end up winning ima make a huge O face.
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The irony is that the troll, who very poorly attempts to argue for relativism, is then contradicting the troll background of evangelical Christianity, which hugely opposes moral relativism (http://www.christianpost.com/article/20100105/evangelicals-abortion-moral-relativism-tops-moral-issues-list/). Not to mention the conveniently-ignoring-how-YEC-is-just-scientifically-wrong parts that have been stated.
This is exactly why people are so concerned with Christine O'Donnell. Real life trolls ftl.
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On October 26 2010 05:09 Krigwin wrote:
Just.......
ugh.
Her point about taking responsibility is obvious but she goes on for BS about contraceptives and allocating "even" money being spent.
I hate politics sooooooooo much. Its getting even worse nowadays and noone will agree on anything. Its become religion.
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Sanya12364 Posts
So why is the Teaparty now all about God and Christianity?
First time I checked, it was about taxation, accountability, and bailouts.
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On October 26 2010 05:45 TanGeng wrote:
So why is the Teaparty now all about God and Christianity?
First time I checked, it was about taxation, accountability, and bailouts.
The Tea Party basically has always been a religious movement disguised as an economic one. You can get alot of attention you otherwise wouldn't have if you scream loud enough about taxes.
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Sanya12364 Posts
Well, it's the same old evangelical nonsense again. About 9 months ago, it was still about fiscal responsibility and accountability. Now, it's God, God, God, God. I'd have to think all the fiscal conservatives have jumped ship at the pure nonsense. The candidates are only playing lip service to addressing the fiscal crisis. It's just about as believable as Obama's promise to end the Iraq conflict.
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On October 26 2010 09:41 TanGeng wrote:
Well, it's the same old evangelical nonsense again. About 9 months ago, it was still about fiscal responsibility and accountability. Now, it's God, God, God, God. I'd have to think all the fiscal conservatives have jumped ship at the pure nonsense. The candidates are only playing lip service to addressing the fiscal crisis. It's just about as believable as Obama's promise to end the Iraq conflict.
Yeah, that reminds me of Glenn Beck. I remember when his show on Fox started it was like "Obama is irresponsible we need to save ourselves from another Great Depression blah blah blah." And I thought "I guess there's a bit of truth to what he says." And now it's all "WE CAN ONLY FIND SALVATION THROUGH GOD STOP THE PROGRESSIVES FROM TAKING OVER OUR LIVES AND TURNING US INTO SLAVES OF THE GOVERNMENT."
And about that video, making English the official language of the United States would be anti-American. : /
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On October 26 2010 09:41 TanGeng wrote:
Well, it's the same old evangelical nonsense again. About 9 months ago, it was still about fiscal responsibility and accountability. Now, it's God, God, God, God. I'd have to think all the fiscal conservatives have jumped ship at the pure nonsense. The candidates are only playing lip service to addressing the fiscal crisis. It's just about as believable as Obama's promise to end the Iraq conflict.
How didnt you see this coming from a mile a way I dont understand. Conservatives lean on the religious vote hard. While obviously there are conservatives who are atheist/agnotisc/not faith lunatics you have to admit the entire idea of conservatism and resisting change is a breeding ground for these type of people.
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According to Rasmussen as of October 15, O'Donnell is losing by eleven points. Phew.
And election day is only seven days away.
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