Political Correctness Gone Too Far - Page 2

On June 29 2004 20:31 Hot_Bid wrote:


you obviously are not "exaggerated" about the "white males that built this country" because you're making a point about it. i never said to ignore the "efforts" of those who built this country, i'm just saying that there's no reason why you have to say "white males" as if they were the ones that made this country "so great" as if this country is doing a great job with social issues and foreign policy right now. i would have to say that white supremacy and white male domination in all social/economic/political aspects actually HURTS this country.

You keep saying you're not racist, whatever.

On June 29 2004 21:00 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I agree with everything you said cept the "american" part.

I mean, "european" encompasses everyone from europe, so naturally american should encompass everyone from america, and not just one country in america. (although admittingly, western europeans often tend to only speak of western europe when talking about europeans, in much the same way people of the united states talk about themselves as americans. )

but oh well, changing how you speak is rather hard I guess. and "people of the united states" honestly sucks.

USAIAN!

On June 29 2004 21:28 Hot_Bid wrote:
how is "ending slavery" an accomplishment by white men when it was started by white men in the first place?

"i'll start smoking tomorrow and then quit"
"quitting smoking is the one of the hardest things to do, what an accomplishment!"

On June 29 2004 20:57 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:

This is bullshit. This isn't an issue of racism or male supremacy, this is about the fact that key people in American History are being ignored because they are white, which is bullshit. Should I just forget that Martin Luther King Junior lead the black civil rights movement in the 60's because he was black. No, because that is bullshit. This is starting to go in the "I can't think of anything better to say other than ReaPeR is a racist direction." Also for suggesting I'm racist you earn a spot on the lamer list.

On June 29 2004 21:34 Hot_Bid wrote:


you seriously believe white people are being *excluded* from american history tests based on reverse racism because they are white?

also, i'm proud to be on your "lamer list" (blatant copy of stimey if you ask me) as every time you post people know that i will probably disagree with you. every time you post something stupid, "Hot_Bid" will be at the bottom, a symbol of non-stupidity.

judging by your track record i believe this to be often. btw hows that michael moore thread coming? still fighting the good fight?

On June 29 2004 20:19 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
The AP United States History test was all about black people and women. Not mention of the white males that built the country, because apparently now political correctness is more important than making sure that the people taking the test acctually understanding history.

EDIT: I will not respond to anyone that calls me either a racist or chauvinist, because I am neither.

On June 29 2004 21:31 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:


The white men that started slavery were racist fucks who had no consideration for the idea that those enslaved we human beings.

The white men that stopped slavery at the very least understood that the concept was morally wrong.

Different fucking kinds of white people. It's not like slave owners put a stop to it. Fucking hell stop trying to oversimplify the situation!

On June 29 2004 20:14 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Earlier today I heard on the radio some of the changes for the Iowa Tests. These are your standard competency tests but they are now super politically correct. I assure you I am not making this up. There was a list made of all the changes that the test writers had to adhere to.

My memory is slightly sketchy in recalling everything in the list, but here's what I remember clearly:

- The word "snowman" is sexist. It must be replaced with "snowperson".
- Calling someone "old" is ageist. Come on! Did the word "ageist" even EXIST before now? STOP MAKING UP WORDS!
- There is to be no mention of "Americans" because that is geographically chauvenist. The proper term is now "people of the United States".
- Dogs mentioned in the tests cannot have the names Cheyenne, Madison, or Pete. Come on... PETE?! They are afraid a little kid named Pete will take the test and get all freaked out because the dog has the same name, and he'll think "ARE THEY SAYING I'M A DOG???"
- "Tote bag" is offensive. The correct term is "brown paper bag" but I forget the reasoning behind it.
- There is to be no mention of Christmas because it offends people who aren't Christian.
- There is to be no mention of birthdays because it offends people whose religion does not recognize birthdays (Jehovah's Witnesses).

There was more but you get the idea. They said "tests are stressful enough for kids, they're hard for kids." Yeah. You want to know about stress? There are a heck of a lot more stressful things in the world than this nonsense. What about paying bills? Paying off debt or a mortgage. That's stressful. Sheltering our kids is only going to hurt them.

This kind of nonsense is ruining our childrens' futures. When they take these kinds of tests and go out into the real world to get a job, what's going to happen? Is Pete going to go to his boss's house for dinner and ask for a raise, then get declined?

Pete: "Boss can I have a raise?"
Boss: "Gee sorry son we just can't spare it."
Pete: "OH MY GOSH WHAT OH NO AAAH"
Boss: "By the way I'd like you to meet my dog whose name is Pete."
Pete: "WHAT YOUR DOG'S NAME IS PETE! ARE YOU SAYING I'M A DOG! AAAAAAAH"

Give me a break!

On June 29 2004 20:23 Hot_Bid wrote:


wtf? what test did you take? any question about a president, congressional legislature, and war would have to include white people.

as to your condescending shit about "white males that built this country" lets not forget that other races were NOT ALLOWED to help build this country because your "white males" persecuted and discriminated against them.

be more stupid and ignorant please.

On June 29 2004 20:30 Excalibur_Z wrote:
hahahaahahaahah

My friend just told me about how Robert Frost's poem "Old Man by the Sea" was banned in some school because it contained banned words.

"Old" of course which we've established is "ageist".

and get this...

"Sea" because it isn't fair to inland students who may not be able to conceptualize what a sea or ocean might be.

On June 29 2004 20:38 MrIncognito wrote:


The entire point of these tests is to give an objective measure of the students ability. If you're in 5th grade, calling the people of the United States "Americans" could be confusing. Does that mean people from South America? Central America? All these answers would be technically correct. Eliminating the word "American" eliminates a lot of ambiguity.

Agism is indeed a word, although the phrase Age Discrimination is more commonly used. There are growing numbers of legal suits for Age Discrimination in the workplace. It's not made up, nor is it particularly new.

These tests are manditory in many of the schools in which they are administered. Given that they have the force of government behind them, it makes sense to do whatever one can to avoid offending people.

Why mention Christian Holidays if you don't have to? A muslim or buddist child may not understand, just as your christian kid might not understand a question about kwaanza.

I don't really think changing "snowman" to "snowperson" makes a huge diference, but if it offends someone why not just change it? Is it really that important?

Children are not adults. That is why we don't expect children to pay mortgages, raise other kids, etc. Applying adult standards to children makes zero sense. Nor does worrying about an 5th-8th grader's ability to get a job.