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United States12275 Posts
Earlier today I heard on the radio some of the changes for the Iowa Tests. These are your standard competency tests but they are now super politically correct. I assure you I am not making this up. There was a list made of all the changes that the test writers had to adhere to.
My memory is slightly sketchy in recalling everything in the list, but here's what I remember clearly:
- The word "snowman" is sexist. It must be replaced with "snowperson".
- Calling someone "old" is ageist. Come on! Did the word "ageist" even EXIST before now? STOP MAKING UP WORDS!
- There is to be no mention of "Americans" because that is geographically chauvenist. The proper term is now "people of the United States".
- Dogs mentioned in the tests cannot have the names Cheyenne, Madison, or Pete. Come on... PETE?! They are afraid a little kid named Pete will take the test and get all freaked out because the dog has the same name, and he'll think "ARE THEY SAYING I'M A DOG???"
- "Tote bag" is offensive. The correct term is "brown paper bag" but I forget the reasoning behind it.
- There is to be no mention of Christmas because it offends people who aren't Christian.
- There is to be no mention of birthdays because it offends people whose religion does not recognize birthdays (Jehovah's Witnesses).
There was more but you get the idea. They said "tests are stressful enough for kids, they're hard for kids." Yeah. You want to know about stress? There are a heck of a lot more stressful things in the world than this nonsense. What about paying bills? Paying off debt or a mortgage. That's stressful. Sheltering our kids is only going to hurt them.
This kind of nonsense is ruining our childrens' futures. When they take these kinds of tests and go out into the real world to get a job, what's going to happen? Is Pete going to go to his boss's house for dinner and ask for a raise, then get declined?
Pete: "Boss can I have a raise?"
Boss: "Gee sorry son we just can't spare it."
Pete: "OH MY GOSH WHAT OH NO AAAH"
Boss: "By the way I'd like you to meet my dog whose name is Pete."
Pete: "WHAT YOUR DOG'S NAME IS PETE! ARE YOU SAYING I'M A DOG! AAAAAAAH"
Give me a break!
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The AP United States History test was all about black people and women. Not mention of the white males that built the country, because apparently now political correctness is more important than making sure that the people taking the test acctually understanding history.
EDIT: I will not respond to anyone that calls me either a racist or chauvinist, because I am neither.
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Braavos36402 Posts
On June 29 2004 20:19 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
The AP United States History test was all about black people and women. Not mention of the white males that built the country, because apparently now political correctness is more important than making sure that the people taking the test acctually understanding history.
wtf? what test did you take? any question about a president, congressional legislature, and war would have to include white people.
as to your condescending shit about "white males that built this country" lets not forget that other races were NOT ALLOWED to help build this country because your "white males" persecuted and discriminated against them.
be more stupid and ignorant please.
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On June 29 2004 20:23 Hot_Bid wrote: Show nested quote +On June 29 2004 20:19 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
The AP United States History test was all about black people and women. Not mention of the white males that built the country, because apparently now political correctness is more important than making sure that the people taking the test acctually understanding history. wtf? what test did you take? any question about a president, congressional legislature, and war would have to include white people. as to your condescending shit about "white males that built this country" lets not forget that other races were NOT ALLOWED to help build this country because your "white males" persecuted and discriminated against them. be more stupid and ignorant please.
It doesn't matter that other races couldn't build the country, the point is they fucking didn't. So don't ignore the efforts of those who did.
Of course you can't see I exaggerated.
Be more stupid please.
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United States12275 Posts
hahahaahahaahah
My friend just told me about how Robert Frost's poem "Old Man by the Sea" was banned in some school because it contained banned words.
"Old" of course which we've established is "ageist".
and get this...
"Sea" because it isn't fair to inland students who may not be able to conceptualize what a sea or ocean might be.
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Yeah, because women and slaves didn't do anything, right Reaper?
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Braavos36402 Posts
On June 29 2004 20:26 x[ReaPeR]x wrote: Show nested quote +On June 29 2004 20:23 Hot_Bid wrote: On June 29 2004 20:19 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
The AP United States History test was all about black people and women. Not mention of the white males that built the country, because apparently now political correctness is more important than making sure that the people taking the test acctually understanding history. wtf? what test did you take? any question about a president, congressional legislature, and war would have to include white people. as to your condescending shit about "white males that built this country" lets not forget that other races were NOT ALLOWED to help build this country because your "white males" persecuted and discriminated against them. be more stupid and ignorant please. It doesn't matter that other races couldn't build the country, the point is they fucking didn't. So don't ignore the efforts of those who did. Of course you can't see I'm exaggerated. Be more stupid please.
you obviously are not "exaggerated" about the "white males that built this country" because you're making a point about it. i never said to ignore the "efforts" of those who built this country, i'm just saying that there's no reason why you have to say "white males" as if they were the ones that made this country "so great" as if this country is doing a great job with social issues and foreign policy right now. i would have to say that white supremacy and white male domination in all social/economic/political aspects actually HURTS this country.
You keep saying you're not racist, whatever.
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People who do this are kinda "mentally challenged" lmfao 
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MURICA15980 Posts
On June 16 2004 23:27 Klogon wrote:
Oh, how everything that turns politically correct ADDS syllables. Ok, first you have Black, which is 1 syllable. But that's not good enough in today's society, so they make it African-American. A-fri-can-A-me-ri-can, which is SEVEN friggin' syllables. I understand that you want to make it less offensive, BUT WHY ADD ALL THE SYLLABLES! It seems any time something turns politically correct, they add at least 5 syllables to the word, just to piss us off some more. If they made the politically correct term nice and short, maybe more people would use that term. -_-
Another example: Americans into "People of the United States"
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A-Mer-Ri-Cans
1 2 3 4
Peo-ple of the U-ni-ted States
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
2x more -_-
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I actually think denoting anything -American is offensive, at least to me it denotes them as being less than American and less then whatever comes before the hyphen.
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On June 29 2004 20:14 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Earlier today I heard on the radio some of the changes for the Iowa Tests. These are your standard competency tests but they are now super politically correct. I assure you I am not making this up. There was a list made of all the changes that the test writers had to adhere to.
My memory is slightly sketchy in recalling everything in the list, but here's what I remember clearly:
- The word "snowman" is sexist. It must be replaced with "snowperson".
- Calling someone "old" is ageist. Come on! Did the word "ageist" even EXIST before now? STOP MAKING UP WORDS!
- There is to be no mention of "Americans" because that is geographically chauvenist. The proper term is now "people of the United States".
- Dogs mentioned in the tests cannot have the names Cheyenne, Madison, or Pete. Come on... PETE?! They are afraid a little kid named Pete will take the test and get all freaked out because the dog has the same name, and he'll think "ARE THEY SAYING I'M A DOG???"
- "Tote bag" is offensive. The correct term is "brown paper bag" but I forget the reasoning behind it.
- There is to be no mention of Christmas because it offends people who aren't Christian.
- There is to be no mention of birthdays because it offends people whose religion does not recognize birthdays (Jehovah's Witnesses).
There was more but you get the idea. They said "tests are stressful enough for kids, they're hard for kids." Yeah. You want to know about stress? There are a heck of a lot more stressful things in the world than this nonsense. What about paying bills? Paying off debt or a mortgage. That's stressful. Sheltering our kids is only going to hurt them.
This kind of nonsense is ruining our childrens' futures. When they take these kinds of tests and go out into the real world to get a job, what's going to happen? Is Pete going to go to his boss's house for dinner and ask for a raise, then get declined?
Pete: "Boss can I have a raise?"
Boss: "Gee sorry son we just can't spare it."
Pete: "OH MY GOSH WHAT OH NO AAAH"
Boss: "By the way I'd like you to meet my dog whose name is Pete."
Pete: "WHAT YOUR DOG'S NAME IS PETE! ARE YOU SAYING I'M A DOG! AAAAAAAH"
Give me a break!
The entire point of these tests is to give an objective measure of the students ability. If you're in 5th grade, calling the people of the United States "Americans" could be confusing. Does that mean people from South America? Central America? All these answers would be technically correct. Eliminating the word "American" eliminates a lot of ambiguity.
Agism is indeed a word, although the phrase Age Discrimination is more commonly used. There are growing numbers of legal suits for Age Discrimination in the workplace. It's not made up, nor is it particularly new.
These tests are manditory in many of the schools in which they are administered. Given that they have the force of government behind them, it makes sense to do whatever one can to avoid offending people.
Why mention Christian Holidays if you don't have to? A muslim or buddist child may not understand, just as your christian kid might not understand a question about kwaanza.
I don't really think changing "snowman" to "snowperson" makes a huge diference, but if it offends someone why not just change it? Is it really that important?
Children are not adults. That is why we don't expect children to pay mortgages, raise other kids, etc. Applying adult standards to children makes zero sense. Nor does worrying about an 5th-8th grader's ability to get a job.
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Braavos36402 Posts
On June 29 2004 20:26 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
Of course you can't see I'm exaggerated.
On June 29 2004 20:26 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
Of course you can't see I exaggerated.
Be more stupid please.
way to correct your grammar but not respond to my post, because being grammatically correct definitely strengthens your racis--i mean, your point.
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United States12275 Posts
You are obviously insane if you believe any of that is true.
You haven't discussed the point about how these nonsense tests prepare our children for the REAL world. The REAL world identifies differences in people whereas schools dilute their importance. Political correctness makes people afraid of each other. More importantly it makes people afraid of each other's attorneys. If you have a multitude of races in a room and you say something regarding race, you can bet SOMEONE is going to be wussy enough to call an attorney over it.
Sheltering our kids in this way hurts them and I don't understand how you don't see this. How can you not see this is ridiculous? It's unbelievable to me, really. When you shelter them in this way, they're going to go out in the real world made of glass. You protect them from defeat and when they're no longer protected their worlds will shatter. That's why I mentioned the scenario between Pete and the boss.
They said writing the tests in this way "helps stop students from stumbling" but stumbling is a very important learning experience. You learn from it.
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MrIncognito you are a moron...
I feel ofended by the world "chilli dog" please name it, spiecy piece of cow meat.
My god you irritate the shit out of me.
[EDIT: baal, you should know better than to threaten people here with physical violence. Don't. - mensrea]
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On June 29 2004 20:39 Hot_Bid wrote: Show nested quote +On June 29 2004 20:26 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
Of course you can't see I'm exaggerated.
Show nested quote +On June 29 2004 20:26 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
Of course you can't see I exaggerated.
Be more stupid please. way to correct your grammar but not respond to my post, because being grammatically correct definitely strengthens your racis--i mean, your point.
Yes I corrected my grammar, not thinking of responding to your point though because you are accusing me of being racist.
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Braavos36402 Posts
um the "nonsense" tests do not prepare our children for the real world, they are ment to measure them to gage how well they are doing in school/how well they would do at college. this is the tests' aim, regardless of how accurate these tests are.
you think that some random scholastic test is supposed to prepare kids for the real world? i thought parents were supposed to do that...
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Braavos36402 Posts
On June 29 2004 20:49 x[ReaPeR]x wrote: Show nested quote +On June 29 2004 20:39 Hot_Bid wrote: On June 29 2004 20:26 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
Of course you can't see I'm exaggerated.
On June 29 2004 20:26 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
Of course you can't see I exaggerated.
Be more stupid please. way to correct your grammar but not respond to my post, because being grammatically correct definitely strengthens your racis--i mean, your point. Yes I corrected my grammar, not thinking of responding to your point though because you are accusing me of being racist.
i never technically accused you, i was just being "insinuated".
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United States12275 Posts
You mean "insinuating" not "being insinuated." Someone had better go back and take those tests!
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Braavos36402 Posts
did you read my post? it's a joke, as i was using reaper's grammatical misstep that you now magnified with your misunderstanding.
reread my post.
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