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PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
June 05 2004 09:14 GMT
#21
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Man of the year.
expostfacto
Profile Joined December 2002
United States365 Posts
June 05 2004 09:18 GMT
#22
On June 05 2004 18:07 FrinkX wrote:
He was the second worst president America has ever had.

The first being the United States' current president.


Were you even alive during his presidency?
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
June 05 2004 09:21 GMT
#23
do you doubt my word when I say Hitler was a bad bad man?
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Eniram
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Sudan3166 Posts
June 05 2004 09:23 GMT
#24
I jsut did a report on him
You can like take a newb to like water, but you cant like make a newb drink. Ya know? - Jeremy
Eniram
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Sudan3166 Posts
June 05 2004 09:24 GMT
#25
On June 05 2004 16:29 Vi)Chris wrote:
Have fun rotting, I will miss stories of your disease ridden senility being on the news occasionally.


Fucking die you peice of shit
You can like take a newb to like water, but you cant like make a newb drink. Ya know? - Jeremy
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12252 Posts
June 05 2004 09:31 GMT
#26
On June 05 2004 17:19 Servolisk wrote:
partial bio of his career:

"(1911- ) Actor, radio announcer, General Electric spokesman, governor of California, 40th President of the United States. A liberal Democrat in his youth, he became a conservative Republican some time after taking his job with G.E.

His economic policies (known as supply-side economics, or as then-rival George Bush described them, "voodoo economics") were based on the idea that increasing military expenditures and cutting nondefense spending while simultaneously lowering taxes would stimulate the economy and thus increase government revenue. Unfortunately, this didn't happen. Whereas in 1980 the United States was a creditor nation, by the late 1980s it was the world's largest debtor nation.

He often told anecdotes, presented as true events, that later turned out to be scenes from movies. Even after he was made aware of this he would tell the same stories later, again presenting them as truth, again seemingly unaware that they weren't.

He also told stories to support his policies that were complete fabrications - the Cadillac-driving "Welfare Queen" he often referred to in his attacks on Aid to Families with Dependent Children did not exist, and the particulars of her lifestyle that he described were not even possible under the existing welfare system.

Was played up as a warrior against terrorism yet supported the government of El Salvador (which engaged in acts of terror against its own people), illegally supported a terrorist war against the Nicaraguan government (which often involved attacks on innocent Nicaraguan citizens), illegally sold arms to the terrorist state of Iran, and himself ordered a terrorist action against another country in his bombing of Libya. (I'm sorry, but bombing people in order to "send a message" is the very definition of a terrorist act.)

Was indicted by the World Court for his mining of Nicaraguan harbors, yet refused to stop.

The only ass he truly kicked was that of the tiny island nation of Grenada, whom we invaded in order to get some American medical students out after they (Grenada, not the students) allied with Cuba. Encouraged the idea, widespread in the 1980s, that it was America's right and responsibility to kick ass overseas.

Though not a churchgoer, courted and won the support of the Religious Right, some of his strongest allies.

Believed himself to be an instrument of God's wrath against the Soviet Union and often wondered aloud if it were his duty to unleash America's nuclear stockpile against them in the war of Armageddon.

Hired people like James Watt, Edwin Meese, and former CIA director George Bush.

Joked on the air, at a time when U.S.-Soviet relations were extremely tense, that he had outlawed Russia forever and would begin bombing them in five minutes.

Cut government funding of mental hospitals so they were forced to release thousands of mentally ill people onto the streets - almost single-handedly creating the homeless problem as we know it today.

Justified increased defense spending by portraying the Soviet Union as an unstoppable juggernaut that was ready to invade at any moment, a picture we now know to be completely false.

The oldest-ever President. Even my grandmother thought he was too old.

Cut the American people out of participation in their own government by classifying more government documents Top Secret than any administration in history.

Though constantly speechifying about family values, Reagan divorced his first wife. Ron and Nancy's own children didn't even seem to like them, and when he was shot none of them visited him in the hospital.

When bombing Libya, cited "Rambo" as an inspiration.

On the plus side, he signed the first nuclear treaty with the Soviet Union that resulted in the actual destruction of nuclear weapons. And I always said I would support him totally if he ever learned to break dance."


Enough of this liberal garbage. Reagan was a great man. We don't need people like you spitting on his image.

Liberals claim he was senile during his presidency but they offer no PROOF. They say "He often told anecdotes, presented as true events, that later turned out to be scenes from movies. Even after he was made aware of this he would tell the same stories later, again presenting them as truth, again seemingly unaware that they weren't." when in reality that was his whole strength. That's precisely what made him the Great Communicator - he not only was a master negotiator, but he spoke in terms people could understand.

He was the only man in the world brave enough to call the Soviet Union "The Evil Empire" and accelerate a peaceful end to the Cold War.

Show some respect.
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Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
June 05 2004 09:35 GMT
#27
reagan was badass
and here's the proof:

On June 05 2004 17:19 Servolisk wrote:
partial bio of his career:

"(1911- ) Actor, radio announcer, General Electric spokesman, governor of California, 40th President of the United States. A liberal Democrat in his youth, he became a conservative Republican some time after taking his job with G.E.

His economic policies (known as supply-side economics, or as then-rival George Bush described them, "voodoo economics") were based on the idea that increasing military expenditures and cutting nondefense spending while simultaneously lowering taxes would stimulate the economy and thus increase government revenue. Unfortunately, this didn't happen. Whereas in 1980 the United States was a creditor nation, by the late 1980s it was the world's largest debtor nation.

He often told anecdotes, presented as true events, that later turned out to be scenes from movies. Even after he was made aware of this he would tell the same stories later, again presenting them as truth, again seemingly unaware that they weren't.

He also told stories to support his policies that were complete fabrications - the Cadillac-driving "Welfare Queen" he often referred to in his attacks on Aid to Families with Dependent Children did not exist, and the particulars of her lifestyle that he described were not even possible under the existing welfare system.

Was played up as a warrior against terrorism yet supported the government of El Salvador (which engaged in acts of terror against its own people), illegally supported a terrorist war against the Nicaraguan government (which often involved attacks on innocent Nicaraguan citizens), illegally sold arms to the terrorist state of Iran, and himself ordered a terrorist action against another country in his bombing of Libya. (I'm sorry, but bombing people in order to "send a message" is the very definition of a terrorist act.)

Was indicted by the World Court for his mining of Nicaraguan harbors, yet refused to stop.

The only ass he truly kicked was that of the tiny island nation of Grenada, whom we invaded in order to get some American medical students out after they (Grenada, not the students) allied with Cuba. Encouraged the idea, widespread in the 1980s, that it was America's right and responsibility to kick ass overseas.

Though not a churchgoer, courted and won the support of the Religious Right, some of his strongest allies.

Believed himself to be an instrument of God's wrath against the Soviet Union and often wondered aloud if it were his duty to unleash America's nuclear stockpile against them in the war of Armageddon.

Hired people like James Watt, Edwin Meese, and former CIA director George Bush.

Joked on the air, at a time when U.S.-Soviet relations were extremely tense, that he had outlawed Russia forever and would begin bombing them in five minutes.

Cut government funding of mental hospitals so they were forced to release thousands of mentally ill people onto the streets - almost single-handedly creating the homeless problem as we know it today.

Justified increased defense spending by portraying the Soviet Union as an unstoppable juggernaut that was ready to invade at any moment, a picture we now know to be completely false.

The oldest-ever President. Even my grandmother thought he was too old.

Cut the American people out of participation in their own government by classifying more government documents Top Secret than any administration in history.

Though constantly speechifying about family values, Reagan divorced his first wife. Ron and Nancy's own children didn't even seem to like them, and when he was shot none of them visited him in the hospital.

When bombing Libya, cited "Rambo" as an inspiration.

On the plus side, he signed the first nuclear treaty with the Soviet Union that resulted in the actual destruction of nuclear weapons. And I always said I would support him totally if he ever learned to break dance."


badabing
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JAM THE FUCKER!
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
June 05 2004 09:38 GMT
#28
I thought he would die sometime after Nixon. He was a democrat originally, but so were all republicans in TEXAS. He was a human being nonetheless, so I give my condolences to the people who cared for him, as for his career as president, I abstain from commenting.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 05 2004 09:40 GMT
#29
Excal, if you'd write/find a bio of him we'd get both extremes and thus might be able to find a middle way (the non fanatics in here :D)
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28879 Posts
June 05 2004 09:41 GMT
#30
brave enough to call them the evil empire? you mean you actually LIKE that phrase?

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STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
June 05 2004 09:41 GMT
#31
Enough of this liberal garbage. Reagan was a great man. We don't need people like you spitting on his image.


he seemed to offer a large collection of facts which you didn't bother contesting. do facts also spit on hitler's image?

Liberals claim he was senile during his presidency but they offer no PROOF. They say "He often told anecdotes, presented as true events, that later turned out to be scenes from movies. Even after he was made aware of this he would tell the same stories later, again presenting them as truth, again seemingly unaware that they weren't." when in reality that was his whole strength. That's precisely what made him the Great Communicator - he not only was a master negotiator, but he spoke in terms people could understand.


L. O. L. He was the great communicator because he passed off fantasy as reality? And didn't the gentleman above just offer a lot of facts? Maybe they are all false propaganda but the gentleman provided more credible information than you, who have merely said he did not offer proof and called him a liberal and said Reagan was a great man for being an incoherent story teller (the mark of a great president i suppose?).

He was the only man in the world brave enough to call the Soviet Union "The Evil Empire" and accelerate a peaceful end to the Cold War.


Or was he part of the problem? Even up to that point we believed everything non-"democratic" was allied with the U.S.S.R. Our policies drove innocent, revolution-believing peoples to alliances with the U.S.S.R. by our own failure to respect them and our own assumptions that any "communist" was already a puppet for the U.S.S.R. just like every little "democracy" we "helped" was actually a puppet of our own (the U.S.) Much like Dubya, perhaps, Reagan overestimates his abilities and trusts those he puts around him a little too much? He doesn't deserve all the blame but certainly there have been men who would not be so easily mislead by those with their own agendas within their very white house.

Show some respect.


Show some respect for Hitler.
Refrain[FriZ]
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada4337 Posts
June 05 2004 09:41 GMT
#32
WTF that's gay this afternoon I just heard on the radio that he might live for a few more weeks/months. Lame.
Countdown
Profile Joined February 2004
1217 Posts
June 05 2004 09:43 GMT
#33
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Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
June 05 2004 09:44 GMT
#34
Enough of this liberal garbage. Reagan was a great man. We don't need people like you spitting on his image.

Liberals claim he was senile during his presidency but they offer no PROOF. They say "He often told anecdotes, presented as true events, that later turned out to be scenes from movies. Even after he was made aware of this he would tell the same stories later, again presenting them as truth, again seemingly unaware that they weren't." when in reality that was his whole strength. That's precisely what made him the Great Communicator - he not only was a master negotiator, but he spoke in terms people could understand.

He was the only man in the world brave enough to call the Soviet Union "The Evil Empire" and accelerate a peaceful end to the Cold War.

Show some respect.


If only he had shown some respect for the lives of so many people in Central America when he was president.

Reagan does fit the description 'great man' in that he reached great heights in his life but I do not admire him. His presidency was scarred by some of the most immoral policies of any administration in history.

It is a shame the recycled Reaganites in the current administration have been given the opportunity to further their rotten agenda once more.
We are vigilant.
Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
June 05 2004 09:47 GMT
#35
The President denounced the left-wing Sandinista government of Nicaragua as a threat to peace in Central America, and he repeatedly requested military aid for the anti-Sandinista guerrillas, known as contras


The contras were an evil gang of thugs and murderers, there is no two ways about it.
We are vigilant.
NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
June 05 2004 10:00 GMT
#36
He basically made the U.S.S.R. go bankrupt because they tried to compete with the amount of money he put into the millitary, and as a result had almost no manufacturing of consumer goods. That alone prevents him from going into this realm of 'bad presidents'. Although this is a really bad topic for you guys to discuss whether he was good or bad, the man just died less than 24 hours ago give it a rest.
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x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
June 05 2004 10:01 GMT
#37
On June 05 2004 18:07 FrinkX wrote:
He was the second worst president America has ever had.

The first being the United States' current president.
.
What about...

Martin Van Buren
Zachary Taylor
Franklin Pierce
James Buchannan
Andrew Johnson
Ulysses S. Grant
Rutherford B. Hayes
Benjamin Harrison
Warren G. Harding
Herbert Hoover
Lyndon B. Johnson
Jimmy Carter
Bill Clinton

All far worse Presidents than Reagan and George W. Bush.
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
June 05 2004 10:05 GMT
#38
like bush, reagan gave money to his rich buddies and tried to pass it off as good for "the economy" but it's not his fault it's probably those evil guys underneath him that got to tell him what's what (also like bush).
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
June 05 2004 10:07 GMT
#39
On June 05 2004 19:05 STIMEY d okgm fish wrote:
like bush, reagan gave money to his rich buddies and tried to pass it off as good for "the economy" but it's not his fault it's probably those evil guys underneath him that got to tell him what's what (also like bush).


... Well the economy was really good under Reagan so I'm not seeing the problem really...
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Countdown
Profile Joined February 2004
1217 Posts
June 05 2004 10:20 GMT
#40
On June 05 2004 19:05 STIMEY d okgm fish wrote:
like bush, reagan gave money to his rich buddies


Where do you think the money came from?

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