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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On August 12 2010 02:22 love1another wrote: Fail evolution. Lamarckism much? Unless you can prove this is epigenomic, this is a totally baseless claim. Yeah he probably refers to studies about Polynesians, where a selective pressure can be identified. This is not the case for Ramadan. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On August 12 2010 03:01 Armut wrote: Fasting is not that hard suprisingly in Ramadan. I know for not religious people its about hard to understand but 16 hours a day (in summer days are longer) just passes easier in Ramadan for Muslims. For people who have real health problem like diabetes or tension (like my father although he fasts) or maybe for the people who needs to take pills or medical treatment regularly its not a must and if fasting really dangaring you its forbidden (Allah doesnt let you torture your self if you cant handle by handle I dont mean yound people just cant stand without eating I mean medically) Anyways, may this Ramadan bring happiness, salvation to all humanity. Bayramınız Mubarek Olsun I am not against people enjoying their Ramadan, whatever makes you happy, but I am quite sure there is some social pressure involved, and I hate that idea. I am sure glad I got rid of any religious ties. | ||
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Wr3k
Canada2533 Posts
On August 12 2010 02:05 Coagulation wrote: if you REALLY Wanted to show your respect for god you would stop breathing air. now thats devotion. QFT, personally I would never do something potentially unhealthy for my body such as fasting, especially if it involves skipping out on liquids. | ||
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Shatter
United States1401 Posts
On August 12 2010 03:22 Maenander wrote: There is some social pressure involved in almost any activity people do, whether you are religious or not. I am not against people enjoying their Ramadan, whatever makes you happy, but I am quite sure there is some social pressure involved, and I hate that idea. I am sure glad I got rid of any religious ties. | ||
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RainWhisper
United Arab Emirates333 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On August 12 2010 03:26 Shatter wrote: There is some social pressure involved in almost any activity people do, whether you are religious or not. That doesn't mean we cannot reduce the amount of unnecessary social pressure. But I feel pressured now to stop derailing the thread, which is actually a healthy pressure for an internet forum. So happy Ramadan everyone! | ||
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Jameser
Sweden951 Posts
I fully support the idea of ramadan in the sense you take a month to try and rid yourself of habits you have accumilated by your daily routine, I think it's a healthy 'spell check' on your person, it does not have to include starvation however. off topic: On August 12 2010 02:22 love1another wrote: Fail evolution. Lamarckism much? Unless you can prove this is epigenomic, this is a totally baseless claim. no, lamarckism would be if I implied these changes in metabolic rate were ingrained in the germline makeup, which I didn't, if you read my post... changes in an indivuduals expression of DNA that is not part of the germline can be just as hereditary without being actually connected to the genes, in this case by hereditary culture (religious practice) I realize I'm not helping this thread with this I just felt I should respond | ||
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darkponcho
United States262 Posts
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exeexe
Denmark937 Posts
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
On August 13 2010 01:32 exeexe wrote: The idea of Ramadan was developped much closer to the equator. This means the environment it was ment to be used in would not have 16 hour long days during the summer. Anyways what would a muslim do should he arrive to the north pole where the sun never sets for half a year? I believe in such a scenario he should only fast for a limited amount of time(13 hours i think?). Well, fasting this year is easy anyway.. thanks to SC2. :D | ||
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KasdaTheEmperor
Croatia239 Posts
On August 12 2010 02:51 KwarK wrote: You just sleep a lot, drink a lot of water and take it easy. I quite often go a few days without eating. Well that's maybe your way of fasting, but Muslims can't eat/drink/smoke/chew bubble gums nor do anything like that during Ramadan from sunrise to sunset. During the summer it's a bit harder because of longer days, however if you truly are a believer it won't come as impossible. It's the matter of faith and it's also a good way to clean your body completely and put your digestive system to rest. | ||
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Smorrie
Netherlands2945 Posts
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RoyW
Ireland270 Posts
On August 13 2010 02:06 KasdaTheEmperor wrote: Well that's maybe your way of fasting, but Muslims can't eat/drink/smoke/chew bubble gums nor do anything like that during Ramadan from sunrise to sunset. During the summer it's a bit harder because of longer days, however if you truly are a believer it won't come as impossible. It's the matter of faith and it's also a good way to clean your body completely and put your digestive system to rest. I don't think that ramadan is unhealthy in anyway, unless you have a medical condition, however claiming health benefits like 'clean your body completely' and 'putting your digestive system to rest' is pseudo-science, on par with 'detox' diets and nonsense like that. Just enjoy it for the cultural celebration, and the 'makes me enjoy/appreciate food' (a poster above stated) aspects without trying to create some physical benefit crap. | ||
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iMBA
United States20 Posts
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Meta
United States6228 Posts
 Cheers Muslims, I disagree with your beliefs but I agree with your celebrations. Partying is the most human thing there is. ^_^ | ||
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Pinkcarebear
Netherlands46 Posts
KwarK edits: It appears people cannot resist taking a thread about a religious festival that a large percentage of the population of Earth enjoy and using it to bash on a religion. That in turn compels people to respond which just further derails. Please remain on topic. | ||
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Nuri
New Zealand280 Posts
So in other words I dont understand where the party comes in? The fast is intended to be an exacting act of deep personal worship in which Muslims seek a raised awareness of closeness to God. Muslims also fast to redirect the heart away from worldly activities, its purpose being to cleanse the inner soul and free it from harm. It also teaches Muslims to practice self-discipline, self-control,sacrifice, and empathy for those who are less fortunate; thus encouraging actions of generosity and charity. | ||
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Jameser
Sweden951 Posts
KwarK edits: It appears people cannot resist taking a thread about a religious festival that a large percentage of the population of Earth enjoy and using it to bash on a religion. That in turn compels people to respond which just further derails. Please remain on topic. | ||
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Nuri
New Zealand280 Posts
KwarK edits: It appears people cannot resist taking a thread about a religious festival that a large percentage of the population of Earth enjoy and using it to bash on a religion. That in turn compels people to respond which just further derails. Please remain on topic. | ||
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Nuri
New Zealand280 Posts
KwarK edits: It appears people cannot resist taking a thread about a religious festival that a large percentage of the population of Earth enjoy and using it to bash on a religion. That in turn compels people to respond which just further derails. Please remain on topic. | ||
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