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On August 12 2010 02:17 ZeaL. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 02:12 Jameser wrote:On August 12 2010 02:09 Diuqil wrote:On August 12 2010 02:05 Jameser wrote:
there's been evidence that recurring periods of starvation primes your metabolism to stockpiling energy meaning down the generations ramadan is going to make obesity the nr1 health concern for muslim developing nations
just sayin If you eat all those calories when the sun is down it will not affect your metabolism. Asked a nutritionist, thank you. Thanks for spewing bull shit information btw, much appreciated. wow so touchy, also it's common knowledge that it's bad to eat right before going to sleep, this is because the body burns fat to maintain heat while asleep, if you recently ate then your body uses that instead meaning the fat that's been stored up naturally for this rythm is left there for the next day but sure, stuff your face right before going to sleep and we'll see if it has an impact on your weight. I eat a bowl of cereal or potato chips before I go to sleep around twice a week and I'm stick thin. Then again I can eat anything I want and I don't gain any weight =/. I don't know much about Ramadan but I know all my middle eastern friends have been staying up late, partying and eating a ton of food, it sounds pretty awesome. I thought Ramadan was supposed to be a time of piety though,is it like how Christmas isn't really Christmas anymore?
I'm not an expert, but I believe that for the vast majority of people, yes, even among those who fast. The cultural/tradition aspects of it are more important than the religion aspect for most modern populations.
For instance, during Eid (Kurban Bayrami in Turkey), most people I know won't sacrifice an animal, they'll just hold a Thanksgiving like dinner, and for the ones who do, it's not because they're religious. It's cause they like meat.
EDIT: Will you asshats stop with the metabolism/body builder talk? This is the final warning.
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I always get fatter during ramadan because the food I get to eat at iftar is soooo delicious and fattening D:
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On August 12 2010 02:19 Jameser wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 02:15 Diuqil wrote:On August 12 2010 02:12 Jameser wrote:On August 12 2010 02:09 Diuqil wrote:On August 12 2010 02:05 Jameser wrote:
there's been evidence that recurring periods of starvation primes your metabolism to stockpiling energy meaning down the generations ramadan is going to make obesity the nr1 health concern for muslim developing nations
just sayin If you eat all those calories when the sun is down it will not affect your metabolism. Asked a nutritionist, thank you. Thanks for spewing bull shit information btw, much appreciated. wow so touchy, also it's common knowledge that it's bad to eat right before going to sleep, this is because the body burns fat to maintain heat while asleep, if you recently ate then your body uses that instead meaning the fat that's been stored up naturally for this rythm is left there for the next day but sure, stuff your face right before going to sleep and we'll see if it has an impact on your weight. It doesn't matter and thats a common fact, go to the bodybuilding.com fourms and try to spread this information, please. You wouldn't survive with your broscience there, you may on tl though. If you really want though, I can c&p information. the reason they say this on fitness sites is that, for fitness purpouses you eat constantly to INCREASE your metabolism (many small meals = body is used to constant supply = body reacts by burning more)this is IN CONTRAST WITH a 15 hour starvation period and then stuffing your face before sleep science is the darndest thing
That is not true, a common myth. The "6 meals a day" thing was made for professonal body builders, because the amount of calories they need is way too much to eat in one sitting, so they spread out their meals 6-10 times a day.
a 15 hour starvation period DOES NOT MATTER. What matters is you eating calories @ your maintenance or above your maintenance.
Sorry but I researched a little bit too much on bodybuilding in my spare time, and I just get angry when I read broscience.
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On August 12 2010 02:22 love1another wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 02:05 Jameser wrote:
there's been evidence that recurring periods of starvation primes your metabolism to stockpiling energy meaning down the generations ramadan is going to make obesity the nr1 health concern for muslim developing nations
just sayin Fail evolution. Lamarckism much? Unless you can prove this is epigenomic, this is a totally baseless claim.
Glad you were able to post before I did... and it indeed is a baseless claim (not to mention, totally faulty knowledge of evolution).
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On August 12 2010 02:05 Jameser wrote:
there's been evidence that recurring periods of starvation primes your metabolism to stockpiling energy meaning down the generations ramadan is going to make obesity the nr1 health concern for muslim developing nations
just sayin
People have been fasting for centuries. A greater obesity concern for developing Muslim nations is the introduction of highly refined and processed foods, like those found in certain Western diets.
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On August 12 2010 02:25 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 02:05 Jameser wrote:
there's been evidence that recurring periods of starvation primes your metabolism to stockpiling energy meaning down the generations ramadan is going to make obesity the nr1 health concern for muslim developing nations
just sayin People have been fasting for centuries. A greater obesity concern for developing Muslim nations is the introduction of highly refined and processed foods, like those found in certain Western diets.
Thats not even it, this guy knows NOTHING about the human metabolism.
Edit: Okay, I'm not going to let this troll derail the thread, if you really want an argument, PM me.
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On August 12 2010 02:24 Entropic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 02:22 love1another wrote:On August 12 2010 02:05 Jameser wrote:
there's been evidence that recurring periods of starvation primes your metabolism to stockpiling energy meaning down the generations ramadan is going to make obesity the nr1 health concern for muslim developing nations
just sayin Fail evolution. Lamarckism much? Unless you can prove this is epigenomic, this is a totally baseless claim. Glad you were able to post before I did... and it indeed is a baseless claim (not to mention, totally faulty knowledge of evolution).
Ruh-Roh http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2822875/
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WTf does Ruh Roh imply?
honestly if you guys want to talk about health issues make a thread about fast food consumerism.
that has some merit.
Look at me!! warning sandwich !!
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Actually I thought that fasting does predispose towards fat deposition and storage. Seems like a natural thing to do really, physiologically. Much like the chipmunks stockpiling for the winter!!
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On August 12 2010 02:32 Coagulation wrote:
WTf does Ruh Roh imply?
honestly if you guys want to talk about health issues make a thread about fast food consumerism.
that has some merit.
GTF back on topic, you noob  Speaking of Ramadan, what is your favorite food to break fast with?
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Wow. I really respect such devotion to ones beliefs.
I remember trying to do to a 40 hour prayer fast at my church and I couldn't even go for like 10 hours. I guess I have more devotion to my stomach than my beliefs.
May you learn much for your sacrifices!
One question, do you fast from sun up to sun down for the whole month?
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On August 12 2010 02:35 love1another wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 02:32 Coagulation wrote:
WTf does Ruh Roh imply?
honestly if you guys want to talk about health issues make a thread about fast food consumerism.
that has some merit. GTF back on topic, you noob Speaking of Ramadan, what is your favorite food to break fast with?
Pork chops.
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I;m not muslim, but i heard there was a football player in training camp that is muslim and won't drink water or eat anything during the day. Amazing belief in his faith
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Thank God I only have to study today and tomorrow and do my exam on friday while fasting.
After that it's pretty much sleep and SC2 until I can break fast, it's gonna be a gaming-fest-galore for me.
Good times. Ramadan makes me appreciate eating and my life in general so much more, too.
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How do you guys deal with fasting?
I don't fast nor am I a muslim, but I've never quite been able to wrap my head around how it's possible to make it through a day without eating. If I skip breakfast, I need 3 hours of sleep in the middle of the day because I get so exhausted, both physically and psychologically.
I assume it's not something you're able to do because you're used to it, as its cycle is fairly long(?). Do you drastically lower your level of activity during the day during Ramadan?
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Wait what the fadoodle Ramadan started?
I thought it started in september....
Edit: Okay, just checked my masjid's website. Starts tommorow according to them. .I'll go with that.
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On August 12 2010 02:43 Warfie wrote:
How do you guys deal with fasting?
I don't fast nor am I a muslim, but I've never quite been able to wrap my head around how it's possible to make it through a day without eating. If I skip breakfast, I need 3 hours of sleep in the middle of the day because I get so exhausted, both physically and psychologically.
I assume it's not something you're able to do because you're used to it, as its cycle is fairly long(?). Do you drastically lower your level of activity during the day during Ramadan?
You just sleep a lot, drink a lot of water and take it easy. I quite often go a few days without eating.
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On August 12 2010 02:43 Warfie wrote:
How do you guys deal with fasting?
I don't fast nor am I a muslim, but I've never quite been able to wrap my head around how it's possible to make it through a day without eating. If I skip breakfast, I need 3 hours of sleep in the middle of the day because I get so exhausted, both physically and psychologically.
I assume it's not something you're able to do because you're used to it, as its cycle is fairly long(?). Do you drastically lower your level of activity during the day during Ramadan?
its from sunrise to sunset...you can eat as much as you want afterwards. its kinda difficult in the summer months because of longer days though
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Fasting is not that hard suprisingly in Ramadan. I know for not religious people its about hard to understand but 16 hours a day (in summer days are longer) just passes easier in Ramadan for Muslims. For people who have real health problem like diabetes or tension (like my father although he fasts) or maybe for the people who needs to take pills or medical treatment regularly its not a must and if fasting really dangaring you its forbidden (Allah doesnt let you torture your self if you cant handle by handle I dont mean yound people just cant stand without eating I mean medically)
Anyways, may this Ramadan bring happiness, salvation to all humanity. Bayramınız Mubarek Olsun
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I went 6 days without food or human contact in the woods for a survival training course when I was 16 (Air Cadets).
It's not that hard to go 16 hours without food, if you want it enough. If you don't then don't do it. It's not like you'll go to hell or anything...
I seriously doubt not eating while the sun is up for a month is going to actually hurt you.
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