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On August 12 2010 02:12 Jameser wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 02:09 Diuqil wrote:On August 12 2010 02:05 Jameser wrote:
there's been evidence that recurring periods of starvation primes your metabolism to stockpiling energy meaning down the generations ramadan is going to make obesity the nr1 health concern for muslim developing nations
just sayin If you eat all those calories when the sun is down it will not affect your metabolism. Asked a nutritionist, thank you. Thanks for spewing bull shit information btw, much appreciated. wow so touchy, also it's common knowledge that it's bad to eat right before going to sleep, this is because the body burns fat to maintain heat while asleep, if you recently ate then your body uses that instead meaning the fat that's been stored up naturally for this rythm is left there for the next day but sure, stuff your face right before going to sleep and we'll see if it has an impact on your weight. also I find it ridiculous that you react with hostility when I'm clearly just looking out for what is obviously going to become a serious public health issue (it already is in the west)
true true. you should see my house right now. we're eating stuff we've never eaten before and its ALL FRIED and greasy. however, if you have patience and self-control you can intake even less calories (i know people who just have a glass of water before the fast, and a normal sized dinner, maybe 1000 calories). 1000 calories all in 1 sitting is also bad, and can cause fat to be stored. however, since most science takes place in the west, no one cares about fasting for a month the way muslims do. hence, i don't think there is enough evidence to suggest that it is either good or bad. its more of a spiritual thing anyways.
on a side note, my bros and i always wondered where did 'demuslim' get his name from?
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He posted about it once but I can't find it. I believe he said he just thought it was cool and it stuck, nothing to do with personal beliefs etc.
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I dont know why people keep saying that not fasting is like not believing in Allah. I have a few friends here in bangladesh that are VERY firm believers but they cant fast everyday because their body is too weak, or they need to go to school for long periods of time, and its ridiculously hot right now here. Its really those kinds of extremist views (you must do everything the Quran tells you!) that give people a bad opinion about Islam and the people who practice it.
Also come to think of it, does any other religion practice animal sacrifice? We do that for kurbani here, couple of guys will hold down a bull, cow or goat, and a hujur will come over with this bigass knife, say 'Allah hu akbar' (praise be to Allah or Allah is great, i forgot which) and slice its neck open. I just sat down and thought about it and its kind of absurd people still do that in this day and age lol
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On August 13 2010 20:32 TheAntZ wrote:
Also come to think of it, does any other religion practice animal sacrifice? I just sat down and thought about it and its kind of absurd people still do that in this day and age lol
It's no different from passing a donation bowl round, just different economic priorities. The principle is the same but livestock is no longer a common or valued commodity in much of the world.
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On August 13 2010 20:36 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2010 20:32 TheAntZ wrote:
Also come to think of it, does any other religion practice animal sacrifice? I just sat down and thought about it and its kind of absurd people still do that in this day and age lol It's no different from passing a donation bowl round, just different economic priorities. The principle is the same but livestock is no longer a common or valued commodity in much of the world.
except in countries with a food shortage and a lack of fast food chains.
the sacrifice is mostly tradition. however, if you sacrifice 1 cow, it can easily feed ~4-5 families. the point is, if you gave 4-5 families $x they couldn't get 1 cow because its $5x. last time we sacrificed a cow in the US it was like $900 for a cow (approx 800 lbs if i'm correct).
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On August 13 2010 20:40 yourwhiteshadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2010 20:36 KwarK wrote:On August 13 2010 20:32 TheAntZ wrote:
Also come to think of it, does any other religion practice animal sacrifice? I just sat down and thought about it and its kind of absurd people still do that in this day and age lol It's no different from passing a donation bowl round, just different economic priorities. The principle is the same but livestock is no longer a common or valued commodity in much of the world. except in countries with a food shortage and a lack of fast food chains. the sacrifice is mostly tradition. however, if you sacrifice 1 cow, it can easily feed ~4-5 families. the point is, if you gave 4-5 families $x they couldn't get 1 cow because its $5x. last time we sacrificed a cow in the US it was like $900 for a cow (approx 800 lbs if i'm correct).
Yeah here in the 'neighbourhood' where we live each house gets at least one cow/goat, and then during the day of kurbani we go on this bigass field where they're all tied up and the 3 dudes + the hujur systematically slaughter each one of them while the people who own them watch from a small hill or get closer if they want, and on the right side a bit in the distance theres a ton of people who came for the 'donations'. They get quite a bit, its kinda like Christmas where people probably make donations to charities or give more to the random beggar on the street. Kinda depressing to watch them fight each other over who gets more after all the cow/goat owners have already gone home
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On August 13 2010 20:32 TheAntZ wrote:
I dont know why people keep saying that not fasting is like not believing in Allah.
Simple answer. Because fasting is one of the Five Pillars of Islam. That being said, its not a do or die thing. Like most things in Islam if there is a reasonable reason for not doing something its forgivable.
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On August 13 2010 19:49 KwarK wrote:
He posted about it once but I can't find it. I believe he said he just thought it was cool and it stuck, nothing to do with personal beliefs etc.
I think it had to do with his favorite athletes (Boxers?) being muslim.
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On August 13 2010 20:48 TheAntZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2010 20:40 yourwhiteshadow wrote:On August 13 2010 20:36 KwarK wrote:On August 13 2010 20:32 TheAntZ wrote:
Also come to think of it, does any other religion practice animal sacrifice? I just sat down and thought about it and its kind of absurd people still do that in this day and age lol It's no different from passing a donation bowl round, just different economic priorities. The principle is the same but livestock is no longer a common or valued commodity in much of the world. except in countries with a food shortage and a lack of fast food chains. the sacrifice is mostly tradition. however, if you sacrifice 1 cow, it can easily feed ~4-5 families. the point is, if you gave 4-5 families $x they couldn't get 1 cow because its $5x. last time we sacrificed a cow in the US it was like $900 for a cow (approx 800 lbs if i'm correct). Yeah here in the 'neighbourhood' where we live each house gets at least one cow/goat, and then during the day of kurbani we go on this bigass field where they're all tied up and the 3 dudes + the hujur systematically slaughter each one of them while the people who own them watch from a small hill or get closer if they want, and on the right side a bit in the distance theres a ton of people who came for the 'donations'. They get quite a bit, its kinda like Christmas where people probably make donations to charities or give more to the random beggar on the street. Kinda depressing to watch them fight each other over who gets more after all the cow/goat owners have already gone home
Sup Bayram.
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That was a small desert village in Morocco, though. I don't know anyone in the city who does it.
EDIT: Also, it tasted amazing.
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Wait so am I supposed to sacrifice an animal?
Where the fadoodle am I supposed to get an animal in suburban America? Steal it?
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chin up to all of you lmao.
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On August 13 2010 21:22 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2010 20:48 TheAntZ wrote:On August 13 2010 20:40 yourwhiteshadow wrote:On August 13 2010 20:36 KwarK wrote:On August 13 2010 20:32 TheAntZ wrote:
Also come to think of it, does any other religion practice animal sacrifice? I just sat down and thought about it and its kind of absurd people still do that in this day and age lol It's no different from passing a donation bowl round, just different economic priorities. The principle is the same but livestock is no longer a common or valued commodity in much of the world. except in countries with a food shortage and a lack of fast food chains. the sacrifice is mostly tradition. however, if you sacrifice 1 cow, it can easily feed ~4-5 families. the point is, if you gave 4-5 families $x they couldn't get 1 cow because its $5x. last time we sacrificed a cow in the US it was like $900 for a cow (approx 800 lbs if i'm correct). Yeah here in the 'neighbourhood' where we live each house gets at least one cow/goat, and then during the day of kurbani we go on this bigass field where they're all tied up and the 3 dudes + the hujur systematically slaughter each one of them while the people who own them watch from a small hill or get closer if they want, and on the right side a bit in the distance theres a ton of people who came for the 'donations'. They get quite a bit, its kinda like Christmas where people probably make donations to charities or give more to the random beggar on the street. Kinda depressing to watch them fight each other over who gets more after all the cow/goat owners have already gone home Sup Bayram. + Show Spoiler [dead food] +That was a small desert village in Morocco, though. I don't know anyone in the city who does it. EDIT: Also, it tasted amazing.
It wasnt in the city, im in a sorta kinda village, even though theres a bigass hospital there. Heres some pics
![[image loading]](http://www.thedailystar.net/campus/2009/03/01/sp03.jpg)
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I'm not sure if they do it in the city or not haha
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Thanks
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I had a muslim friend in middle school that would fast during ramadan. He would sit at our lunch table with nothing in front of him until lunch was over. He was also very underweight. Occasionaly he would mumble how hungry he was. I felt bad eating in front of him.
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It appears people cannot resist taking a thread about a religious festival that a large percentage of the population of Earth enjoy and using it to bash on a religion. That in turn compels people to respond which just further derails. Please remain on topic.
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KwarK edits:
It appears people cannot resist taking a thread about a religious festival that a large percentage of the population of Earth enjoy and using it to bash on a religion. That in turn compels people to respond which just further derails. Please remain on topic.
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The topic is now nuked of that particular derailment. I apologise for nuking both sides but letting anyone get the last word is just bait for someone else to try it. If you wish to discuss the merits and morals of Islam as a religion do it elsewhere.
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I can't play SC2 during the day in Ramadan.. My nicotine cravings make me so edgy that I rage when I lose rofl
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This thread made me read lots of basic things about Muslims, and I didn't think I was so ignorant.
Zakah is a wonderful concept. To purify and grow as a population rather than individual efforts is very important.
Clearly some Muslims are much more hard-core than others; I am holding july's national geographic showing a picture of a shiite man and the caption reads: a shiite man in Lahore whips himself with blades in a ritual that simbolizes the suffering of Muhammad's grandson Husayn.
NSFW bloody pics of these shiite man whipping themselves. They do it to express their collective guilt; when Husayn was suffering, they never came to his aid.+ Show Spoiler +
Is the main difference between Shia and Sunni political?
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