Poll: Eating dog is bad? please write at least one sentence of your opinion. (Vote): Yes! It is a pet not a food! (Vote): No! It's just another white meat!
Many koreans argue over westerners saying it's cruel to eat dogs when westerners(americans) eat horse meat.
I'm korean and haven't tried dog meat yet but I would sure like to try once if I get a chance.
Well.. Me having 4 dogs, 2 of which has had puppies.. I can't really see myself eating them
Then again, I'm a vegetarian so I personally don't eat meat at all ^_^ (If anyone feels like smashing the maddox rant about vegetarians in my face, I've got this to say: what do you prefer? cannibalism or murder?).
I don't really think there's anything different with eating dog to eating other pets and I don't condemn people eating meat Just I don't want to +_+
humm im not aware of any wide spread horse eating here in the us but maybe they do i happen to be vegaterian so i just stay away from all meats though i do eat eggs and chesse (dairy products)
On topic, now, for me, I object to eating dogs, because in the society I live in, we keep them as pets, and as friends; we see them as having rights.
However, that being said, it may be different in another culture (e.g. Korea), as they may have looked upon dogs as food from the dawn of their times. I can't object to that, if it is their own tradition.
Dog meat is not that popular or widespread in Korea. Only idiot assholes who love exaggerating try to spread that rumor. The dogs you are thinking aren't even the dogs they use to make it. They use the crappiest dogs to make their food. Not a 10k Yorkie for some dog rice roll. Bitching about eating dogs is just as stupid as calling Americans fat. There is some truth to it but the people who talk about it don't know anything about what they're talking about.
dog meat is very tender...and taste is kinda good..depends on what you are thinking at that moment-_-;;...good with soju-_-; Oh..and at the end you mix with rice;;;the sauce used;;;gosu;;;+_+b
What do you mean 'crappiest dogs' to make it? Mutts? My dog is the best dog in the world, and a mutt.
Anyways, dogs have personality. They are smarter, more fun, and more useful than many people. For me to be tolerant of eatting dogs I'd have to be tolerant of cannibalism.
dog, chickens, cows etc.. are all animals, they are not more special than other animals, if u can eat cows, chickens, y not dogs? chickens can be pets, same with cows, except they r too big to handle. so my point is, if they are animal, then u can eat it, theres no crime invovled.
On June 03 2004 12:21 Servolisk wrote: What do you mean 'crappiest dogs' to make it? Mutts? My dog is the best dog in the world, and a mutt.
Anyways, dogs have personality. They are smarter, more fun, and more useful than many people. For me to be tolerant of eatting dogs I'd have to be tolerant of cannibalism.
Yeah that's how I feel PERSONALLY too -_-~ But really, it's no different from eating other meat -- Which I do dislike as well -_-~ For example, I could never eat rabbit--;; I had the most gosu rabbit ever -_-+ Scared all our dogs :D
i just wanted to say yes most americans are FAT srry Heen but its true if u generilize the whole population. we eat more per meal than the avarege person not of this country(ie serving size way to big) we dont exercise enough if at all and we spend way to much time worried whats goin on else where then trying to improve ourselfs and our enviroment gogog usa we are so smart. and just so u know my wife is getting her doctrets in nutritanal science so yes i do know a few things about "fat americans" be it as it may from a 3rd party source
actually we humans basically eat everything . chinese were the first to eat dog meat i believe.the korean pick up later. japanese eat dolphin meat. some insects,bear paw,elephant trunk, monkey brain,turtle , these are considered asian delicacies..
i myself i have eaten dog meat,bear paw,snake ,frog,crocodile meat,shark fin and shark meat, ostrich meat. i live in malaysia , a multicultural country.
On June 03 2004 12:21 Servolisk wrote: What do you mean 'crappiest dogs' to make it? Mutts? My dog is the best dog in the world, and a mutt.
Anyways, dogs have personality. They are smarter, more fun, and more useful than many people. For me to be tolerant of eatting dogs I'd have to be tolerant of cannibalism.
Yeah that's how I feel PERSONALLY too -_-~ But really, it's no different from eating other meat -- Which I do dislike as well -_-~ For example, I could never eat rabbit--;; I had the most gosu rabbit ever -_-+ Scared all our dogs :D
I wouldn't eat a rabbit either, unless I was stranded in the wilderness trying to survive. I don't eat pigs either because they are supposed to be intelligent and playful, even though I really liked bacon. I've considered becoming a vegetarian, but I'm not sure I mind eatting herbivores who have evolved to be eatten (canines do that too). I do think its not right for them to be treated so bad before they die either.
I don't get why you would eat dogs when you could eat a cow anyways. Ignoring the morality totally, its like breeding meatless carnivores for slaughter instead of fat herbivores.
On June 03 2004 12:32 Niza wrote: dog, chickens, cows etc.. are all animals, they are not more special than other animals, if u can eat cows, chickens, y not dogs? chickens can be pets, same with cows, except they r too big to handle. so my point is, if they are animal, then u can eat it, theres no crime invovled.
On June 03 2004 12:03 FrozenArbiter wrote: Well.. Me having 4 dogs, 2 of which has had puppies.. I can't really see myself eating them
Then again, I'm a vegetarian so I personally don't eat meat at all ^_^ (If anyone feels like smashing the maddox rant about vegetarians in my face, I've got this to say: what do you prefer? cannibalism or murder?).
I don't really think there's anything different with eating dog to eating other pets and I don't condemn people eating meat Just I don't want to +_+
On June 03 2004 12:21 Servolisk wrote: What do you mean 'crappiest dogs' to make it? Mutts? My dog is the best dog in the world, and a mutt.
Anyways, dogs have personality. They are smarter, more fun, and more useful than many people. For me to be tolerant of eatting dogs I'd have to be tolerant of cannibalism.
Yeah that's how I feel PERSONALLY too -_-~ But really, it's no different from eating other meat -- Which I do dislike as well -_-~ For example, I could never eat rabbit--;; I had the most gosu rabbit ever -_-+ Scared all our dogs :D
I wouldn't eat a rabbit either, unless I was stranded in the wilderness trying to survive. I don't eat pigs either because they are supposed to be intelligent and playful, even though I really liked bacon. I've considered becoming a vegetarian, but I'm not sure I mind eatting herbivores who have evolved to be eatten (canines do that too). I do think its not right for them to be treated so bad before they die either.
+ Pigs have 30 minute orgasms -_- You can't eat such a perfect specimen T_T
On June 03 2004 12:03 FrozenArbiter wrote: Well.. Me having 4 dogs, 2 of which has had puppies.. I can't really see myself eating them
Then again, I'm a vegetarian so I personally don't eat meat at all ^_^ (If anyone feels like smashing the maddox rant about vegetarians in my face, I've got this to say: what do you prefer? cannibalism or murder?).
I don't really think there's anything different with eating dog to eating other pets and I don't condemn people eating meat Just I don't want to +_+
I see nothing wrong with eating dogs, and heard it tastes really good; I heard the meat was kind of sweet.
On a side note: Animals are not humans; they do not have the same rights as humans; animals are food, to think otherwise is stupid.
The only kind of animal product I can't see myself eating is monkey brain, and I don't think I'll eat cow tongue either (even though I heard it was really good).
since u cant control that shit, i wouldnt mind trying if it tastes good, but its fuckin discusting, these are not simple minded animals, like chickens or cows. how would u like to have ur child taken away from u at birth, kept in a cage with little exercise and love for 5 years then have his head chopped off so some fat american or skinny korean can dine like a swine. again i cant control such industries, i have nothing against killing cows, chickens, pigs, but dogs and chimps is a different ball game. best thing is to just block that out of ur mind, its a waste worrying about it. also for the vegetarians, lol ur missing out on life. its not like 1 person will make a difference in such industries
On June 03 2004 14:02 BlazeD wrote: since u cant control that shit, i wouldnt mind trying if it tastes good, but its fuckin discusting, these are not simple minded animals, like chickens or cows. how would u like to have ur child taken away from u at birth, kept in a cage with little exercise and love for 5 years then have his head chopped off so some fat american or skinny korean can dine like a swine. again i cant control such industries, i have nothing against killing cows, chickens, pigs, but dogs and chimps is a different ball game. best thing is to just block that out of ur mind, its a waste worrying about it. also for the vegetarians, lol ur missing out on life. its not like 1 person will make a difference in such industries
I love my big fat peppy dog, but I'm sure there's some fine eating in him too. I've been fattening him up for years, when is it all going to finally pay off???
On June 03 2004 12:52 Liquid`Drone wrote: humans taste foul. (or so I've heard )
Actually, I heard it's the best meat. Higher the food chain the better.
Human -> Cows -> grains, hay Human -> Dogs -> Cows -> grains, hay Human -> Human -> Dogs -> Cows -> grains, hay
Probably just a theory but thats what I've heard. I've heard somewhere dog meat is good because they eat anything. So the above idea could be true. ~_~
sometimes i forget that most of u are under the age of 18 reading some pepoles post in this thread(and others) just inforces that thats true but agian i guess when i was that age i thought i knew everything 2^^
I'd eat dog,and bull tongue for that matter.How about bull colon?they made them eat that on fear factor and all of them came so close to throwing up.it was some quality tv.
On June 03 2004 13:48 SickofLife wrote: I see nothing wrong with eating dogs, and heard it tastes really good; I heard the meat was kind of sweet.
On a side note: Animals are not humans; they do not have the same rights as humans; animals are food, to think otherwise is stupid.
The only kind of animal product I can't see myself eating is monkey brain, and I don't think I'll eat cow tongue either (even though I heard it was really good).
Ponder this: say a more highly evolved species emerged, would you like being treated like shit? O_o
On June 03 2004 13:48 SickofLife wrote: I see nothing wrong with eating dogs, and heard it tastes really good; I heard the meat was kind of sweet.
On a side note: Animals are not humans; they do not have the same rights as humans; animals are food, to think otherwise is stupid.
The only kind of animal product I can't see myself eating is monkey brain, and I don't think I'll eat cow tongue either (even though I heard it was really good).
Ponder a more highly evolved species emerged, would you like being treated like shit? O_o
Oh and quorne taste pretty much the same as meat
Very good point about another species. What is quorne?
On June 03 2004 13:48 SickofLife wrote: I see nothing wrong with eating dogs, and heard it tastes really good; I heard the meat was kind of sweet.
On a side note: Animals are not humans; they do not have the same rights as humans; animals are food, to think otherwise is stupid.
The only kind of animal product I can't see myself eating is monkey brain, and I don't think I'll eat cow tongue either (even though I heard it was really good).
Ponder a more highly evolved species emerged, would you like being treated like shit? O_o
Oh and quorne taste pretty much the same as meat
Very good point about another species. What is quorne?
Meat surrogate (surrogat?) Not sure about spelling
I have to say that since I consider dogs more pets than food I'm not big on eating dog meat. You gotta do what you gotta do though. I HEARD that in South Korea eating dogs is really becoming less popular, which would make sense considering that there is less need for it.
On June 03 2004 13:48 SickofLife wrote: I see nothing wrong with eating dogs, and heard it tastes really good; I heard the meat was kind of sweet.
On a side note: Animals are not humans; they do not have the same rights as humans; animals are food, to think otherwise is stupid.
The only kind of animal product I can't see myself eating is monkey brain, and I don't think I'll eat cow tongue either (even though I heard it was really good).
Ponder this: say a more highly evolved species emerged, would you like being treated like shit? O_o
Oh and quorne taste pretty much the same as meat
food chain... a Dog, or a cow is the same.
If there is a highly evolved being that actually eat humans well, it would be natural.
A Tiger would eat us, and that doesnt make him a biatch.
Even if you go veggie, plants still feel pain and stress, you gotta eat something.
On June 03 2004 15:15 x[ReaPeR]x wrote: Meat kicks ass, period.
I have to say that since I consider dogs more pets than food I'm not big on eating dog meat. You gotta do what you gotta do though. I HEARD that in South Korea eating dogs is really becoming less popular, which would make sense considering that there is less need for it.
Actually it is illegal - albeit, not very strictly enforced I hear. Also, I do believe it's predominantly a country side practice amongst elderly people.
I cannot see any rational reason for differentiating between dog meat and, say pork or beef. In the west we have a general cultural taboo about eating those species we keep as pets, which I would speculate is the source of most people's aversion to dog meat.
On June 03 2004 13:48 SickofLife wrote: I see nothing wrong with eating dogs, and heard it tastes really good; I heard the meat was kind of sweet.
On a side note: Animals are not humans; they do not have the same rights as humans; animals are food, to think otherwise is stupid.
The only kind of animal product I can't see myself eating is monkey brain, and I don't think I'll eat cow tongue either (even though I heard it was really good).
Ponder this: say a more highly evolved species emerged, would you like being treated like shit? O_o
Oh and quorne taste pretty much the same as meat
food chain... a Dog, or a cow is the same.
If there is a highly evolved being that actually eat humans well, it would be natural.
A Tiger would eat us, and that doesnt make him a biatch.
Even if you go veggie, plants still feel pain and stress, you gotta eat something.
A tiger is eatting to survive, its different. How do you know plants 'feel'?
And you brushing off some higher being coming along to eat us as natural may be your belief, but I'm sure most of mankind would say how evil and unjust it is.
Eatting things like Veal and Dogs and Shark Fins are not needed to survive. We could manage without eatting any meat in many places, and it would be healthier too.
What is it that they consider 'stress' anyway? Its hard to imagine a plant having sentience.
Actually the world's meat (and general food) output is far more than is needed to feed the entire world. It is the nation state and economic structures currently in place (whatever their merits) that cause the incredibly unequal growth and distribution of food. Natural conditions cause crop failures but there is no need for famine or food shortages anywhere in the world. Hopefully one day we will be able to move towards a solution to this issue.
Shark Fins indeed, that is totally unecesary and its not an abundant animal.
Dog is abundant, and thosands are sacrified daily, why waste an animal if it can be eaten?
Going veggie is proven to prolonge life atleast 5 years, also this means an slower rate of life because of the metabolism, i tink it must be studied very profundly to get a probably evolution theory about it, we are omnivores for something, if vegetals are better for us evolution would point that.
I think meat is part of our diet, and theres is a lot of hunger in this world, i dont see why they cant breed dogs in china and eat them.
Actually the world's meat (and general food) output is far more than is needed to feed the entire world. It is the nation state and economic structures currently in place (whatever their merits) that cause the incredibly unequal growth and distribution of food. Natural conditions cause crop failures but there is no need for famine or food shortages anywhere in the world. Hopefully one day we will be able to move towards a solution to this issue.
It would be solved by overproducing even more, why desire a Teletubbie solution when we got a REAL solution really feasable, eat dog.
On June 03 2004 13:48 SickofLife wrote: I see nothing wrong with eating dogs, and heard it tastes really good; I heard the meat was kind of sweet.
On a side note: Animals are not humans; they do not have the same rights as humans; animals are food, to think otherwise is stupid.
The only kind of animal product I can't see myself eating is monkey brain, and I don't think I'll eat cow tongue either (even though I heard it was really good).
Ponder this: say a more highly evolved species emerged, would you like being treated like shit? O_o
Oh and quorne taste pretty much the same as meat
food chain... a Dog, or a cow is the same.
If there is a highly evolved being that actually eat humans well, it would be natural.
A Tiger would eat us, and that doesnt make him a biatch.
Even if you go veggie, plants still feel pain and stress, you gotta eat something.
A tiger is eatting to survive, its different. How do you know plants 'feel'?
And you brushing off some higher being coming along to eat us as natural may be your belief, but I'm sure most of mankind would say how evil and unjust it is.
thats because most of mankind is hypocritical like that! it still is natural though, as part of a food chain :O
Yes but you wouldn't like that thing to say, oh I don't know? Eat your kids? Parents? I'd hope they'd show some compassion, even if they can't understand us at all (language wise)!
On June 03 2004 12:03 FrozenArbiter wrote: Then again, I'm a vegetarian so I personally don't eat meat at all ^_^ (If anyone feels like smashing the maddox rant about vegetarians in my face, I've got this to say: what do you prefer? cannibalism or murder?).
Dogs are pets, yes. But Koreans don't eat dogs off the street in the restaurants that serve dog meat. Just like there are chicken farms, there are also dog farms that raise dogs to be eaten, not raised to be your best friend. I don't think the Korean economy is so desperate that people need to eat the well-bred pedigree dogs you see on ESPN or dogs off the street.
On June 03 2004 13:48 SickofLife wrote: I see nothing wrong with eating dogs, and heard it tastes really good; I heard the meat was kind of sweet.
On a side note: Animals are not humans; they do not have the same rights as humans; animals are food, to think otherwise is stupid.
The only kind of animal product I can't see myself eating is monkey brain, and I don't think I'll eat cow tongue either (even though I heard it was really good).
Ponder this: say a more highly evolved species emerged, would you like being treated like shit? O_o
Oh and quorne taste pretty much the same as meat
Ponder this: Evolution is false, and nothing more "advanced" will evolve, thus, I will not have to worry about said problem.
Ponder this: Evolution is true, and something more advanced does evolve; however, I am dead, and no longer give a shit.
The facts are simple, boys and girls, animals are food.
Thats like saying terrorism is not a problem because if it doesnt happen, I have nothing to worry about, if it happens I'm dead and no longer give a shit, good argument :/
It's animal racism, If we can eat, cow, pig and chickens why can't we eat dogs? All animals that are edible (and not an indangered species) should be legalized as food.
On June 03 2004 14:55 ze7 wrote: I'd eat dog,and bull tongue for that matter.How about bull colon?they made them eat that on fear factor and all of them came so close to throwing up.it was some quality tv.
I'd still try it though,i'd try anything once :-]
They made em eat Pig Rectum.
There was a gay guy on the show that episode. He had no trouble at all eating it. It was hilarious, he psyched the others out sooo bad.
eating humans is okay as long as they havent been promised any rights. like the mentally retarded people, like fetuses, and small babies. unless someone else has the rights to them, which is usally the case. but if some dead baby is in a dumpster whats the big deal
On June 03 2004 12:35 FuDDx wrote: i just wanted to say yes most americans are FAT srry Heen but its true if u generilize the whole population. we eat more per meal than the avarege person not of this country(ie serving size way to big) we dont exercise enough if at all and we spend way to much time worried whats goin on else where then trying to improve ourselfs and our enviroment gogog usa we are so smart. and just so u know my wife is getting her doctrets in nutritanal science so yes i do know a few things about "fat americans" be it as it may from a 3rd party source
That's the most ignorant post I've seen today. Please look up the definition of most in a dictionary. You also ignore the amount of physically fit people in America. I'm not even American, nor am I biased for Americans, but people always ignore the amount of talented and well trained athletes/people of America. But I would agree that Americans are dumb.
On June 03 2004 22:23 moseskim wrote: My friend likes veggie buffalo wings. Anyone else here had them before? I bet they taste bad. Like crap.
No, but few years ago my mom was buying some frozen burgers that could be microwaved which appealed to my uber laziness, they were alright and later I found out they were veggie burgers.
On June 03 2004 22:23 moseskim wrote: My friend likes veggie buffalo wings. Anyone else here had them before? I bet they taste bad. Like crap.
No, but few years ago my mom was buying some frozen burgers that could be microwaved which appealed to my uber laziness, they were alright and later I found out they were veggie burgers.
On June 03 2004 20:46 Million wrote: It's animal racism, If we can eat, cow, pig and chickens why can't we eat dogs? All animals that are edible (and not an indangered species) should be legalized as food.
it has nothing to do with the type of meat u eat, but the evolvness of the creature. dogs and chimps differ from chicken in that a chicken just needs a nice terrain, (can be in a cage but something it likes for its feet) food, and it will be happy. many scientific studies have shown that dogs and chimps need love, exercise, and affection to be happy. its almost like a kid. so the problem here is not that its dog meat but the way these highly evolved animals (very close to small children) are treated. basically a very very VERY close comparisson would be people breeding kids, in a little cage, with food and water, and once the kids grow a little they get killed so ppl can eat 'well' i think in civilized society (north american and european countries)such animal cruelty is illegal but thats just speculation since i dont find 'dog meat' in any grocery store or restaurant
With respect, I think you are exaggerating the difference between dogs and other animals we are generally more than happy to consume. Pigs, for instance, are known to be quite intelligent but large numbers of people are keen on bacon sandwiches.
On June 03 2004 20:46 Million wrote: It's animal racism, If we can eat, cow, pig and chickens why can't we eat dogs? All animals that are edible (and not an indangered species) should be legalized as food.
it has nothing to do with the type of meat u eat, but the evolvness of the creature. dogs and chimps differ from chicken in that a chicken just needs a nice terrain, (can be in a cage but something it likes for its feet) food, and it will be happy. many scientific studies have shown that dogs and chimps need love, exercise, and affection to be happy. its almost like a kid. so the problem here is not that its dog meat but the way these highly evolved animals (very close to small children) are treated. basically a very very VERY close comparisson would be people breeding kids, in a little cage, with food and water, and once the kids grow a little they get killed so ppl can eat 'well' i think in civilized society (north american and european countries)such animal cruelty is illegal but thats just speculation since i dont find 'dog meat' in any grocery store or restaurant
Dogs have every emotion except malice. A guard dog will protect you until it dies, even if fatally injured. Dogs help a lot of people live with diabilites, not just blindness. They Play games with you. They will find your drowned corpse under water/ice so your family can give you a good burial and find closure. They will track you down and rescue you if you are lost or trapped. When my 2 year old nephew comes over and he starts pulling my dogs tail, my dog will start crying for me to come rescue her. Would any other animal have the morals to not do just GG my newphew? Can't think of any. I want to be as good of of a person as my dog thinks i am. And won't eat best friend meat even if it means my life.
Heen ignorant im sure u are if u can say that about the fat problem in america and then go on to say all of them are dunb ... well i dont think i have to continue now do i ? o and by the way the precentage is slowly getting higher and higher the amount of people in usa who are considered morbidly obiese (look it up in a dictinary)(maybe i should to get the spelling!)And so u know im not tryin to be to mean pm me and ill tell you the facts i know and u can tell me how ignorant i am ok ^_^
On June 04 2004 00:32 Arbiter[frolix] wrote: With respect, I think you are exaggerating the difference between dogs and other animals we are generally more than happy to consume. Pigs, for instance, are known to be quite intelligent but large numbers of people are keen on bacon sandwiches.
wtf u take me for a joke? lol u smokin crack? i have a pure breed border collie (most intelligent breed of dog) and u'd have no idea how smart these dogs are. pigs dont compare to dogs when it comes to intelligence
wtf u take me for a joke? lol u smokin crack? i have a pure breed border collie (most intelligent breed of dog) and u'd have no idea how smart these dogs are. pigs dont compare to dogs when it comes to intelligence
Calm down. No I do not smoke crack. Do you always react in such an aggressive fashion when someone questions something you say?
I do not disagree that dogs are more intelligent than pigs, I am questioning whether the difference between the level of intelligence of dogs and the level of intelligence of other species justifies the radical differentiation: eating some animals ok, eating dogs not ok.
Btw, I personally would not really consider eating dog. However, I think it is more of a conditioned, emotional reaction than one based on reason.
I watched around 30 episodes of street smarts. I conclude americans are Dumb. There is a huge lack in common knowledge. Last year a 20 year old Girl and her 19 year old Boy friend asked me what FYI meant. A good friend, perhaps my best friend don't know what a modem is. Hes his familys computer wizz. And all his uncles and anuts call him for tech support. He had a computer since 98' and he uses it everyday. He thinks modem is some magic word he can use in any way in a computer related sentence, I.E "Maybe you need to reformat your modem". I showed him the "Shut Down" button on it 3 months ago. He can't comprend the idea of Miracle Whip and Mayonaise. He isnt retarded. He was a B student, has the best handwriting i've seen ANYWHERE, and has read more books than any old person. Also penned a pretty good novel, its been 3/4s done for ever now.
Ok this is was more of a rant on my friend. I can't understand how he can follow along in a conversation, excellent sense of humor and wit and be so retarded at the same time. Its been bugging me for years. I have a feeling its just TV. He never watches anything but Buffy, Highlander, DBZ, Angel or Star Trek for years on end now. Even if he seen that episode 1000x times before, he will watch it again before flipping on CNN, The Weather Channel, or The History Channel. Dunno, but probably the latest news hes heard is we went to war with Iraq.
the pic from post above isnt my dog but it is super close here is a album of some pics they are so cute ^.~
acutally rekrul i am the most intelligent person on the planet, just wait for my book to come out in around 3 years. a quick sample is => title 'the perfect world' i will discuss how i can make a perfect world if i would be king. there are so many flaws in north american countries. just a few examples are; govt wasting taxpayers money on decorations like putting up flowers on public road dividers, or decorations for xmas (paying for labour + electricity costs to run the light bulbs) giving life in prison, when death penalty woudl be so much cheaper, it will make more prison space + no cost to keep criminal alive and he gonna die there anyways, helping other countries (donation money etc) when u should make sure ur own country perfect before hand (use that $ for hospitals + schools) have police gather up homeless ppl (most are drugies/alcoholics and useless) and just exectute them in a mannerful way. that book will make me a millionaire ^_^
the pic from post above isnt my dog but it is super close here is a album of some pics they are so cute ^.~
acutally rekrul i am the most intelligent person on the planet, just wait for my book to come out in around 3 years. a quick sample is => title 'the perfect world' i will discuss how i can make a perfect world if i would be king. there are so many flaws in north american countries. just a few examples are; govt wasting taxpayers money on decorations like putting up flowers on public road dividers, or decorations for xmas (paying for labour + electricity costs to run the light bulbs) giving life in prison, when death penalty woudl be so much cheaper, it will make more prison space + no cost to keep criminal alive and he gonna die there anyways, helping other countries (donation money etc) when u should make sure ur own country perfect before hand (use that $ for hospitals + schools) have police gather up homeless ppl (most are drugies/alcoholics and useless) and just exectute them in a mannerful way. that book will make me a millionaire ^_^
OMFG PEOPLE, PLEASE READ HIS POST!
no kidding sherlock, killing inmates its cheaper? whoa you are a genius!, and stop donations yay! you are truly bright, you will indeed become a millionarie with your book...
Really, if IQ is the reason why we shouldnt eat dogs... we MUST add this guy into our food chain. LOL
and about the book this is just a very brief sample. there is so much to cover, immigration, laws etc. i gonna give it to soem journalists who will give it media coverage due to the contreversy, brilliance, etc. this will catch the attention of some rich jewish publishers who will say to themselves 'wow this kid one of a kind, i can make money of this shit' i will of course choose the publisher that gives me the best deal. these philosophys will stir up a lot of controversy which will be good for me since more publicity = more cash. cant wait ^_^
On June 04 2004 03:00 BlazeD wrote: and about the book this is just a very brief sample. there is so much to cover, immigration, laws etc. i gonna give it to soem journalists who will give it media coverage due to the contreversy, brilliance, etc. this will catch the attention of some rich jewish publishers who will say to themselves 'wow this kid one of a kind, i can make money of this shit' i will of course choose the publisher that gives me the best deal. these philosophys will stir up a lot of controversy which will be good for me since more publicity = more cash. cant wait ^_^
Inmigration... let me guess, dont let Mexicans cross the border and we will be rich! lol.
I dont know why am i talking to you, how old are you 10, 13?
the pic from post above isnt my dog but it is super close here is a album of some pics they are so cute ^.~
acutally rekrul i am the most intelligent person on the planet, just wait for my book to come out in around 3 years. a quick sample is => title 'the perfect world' i will discuss how i can make a perfect world if i would be king. there are so many flaws in north american countries. just a few examples are; govt wasting taxpayers money on decorations like putting up flowers on public road dividers, or decorations for xmas (paying for labour + electricity costs to run the light bulbs) giving life in prison, when death penalty woudl be so much cheaper, it will make more prison space + no cost to keep criminal alive and he gonna die there anyways, helping other countries (donation money etc) when u should make sure ur own country perfect before hand (use that $ for hospitals + schools) have police gather up homeless ppl (most are drugies/alcoholics and useless) and just exectute them in a mannerful way. that book will make me a millionaire ^_^
as an american you should know about the marshall help. you should also know that it prevented an economic collapse afther world war 2. and its the same thing about third world contries, you help them boost their eco so they can be a new market. and with a new market you earn more money.
I hate horses because they smell and through shitting all over the place, makes areas around horses smell too. and unlike dogs, when a horse feels like taking a shit, he covers a square meter. and while dog shit has to be picked up, that doesn't apply for horses. couple this with the fact that I live within one mile of two stables and you have an annoyed eri
On June 04 2004 03:38 Liquid`Drone wrote: also baal
I hate horses because they smell and through shitting all over the place, makes areas around horses smell too. and unlike dogs, when a horse feels like taking a shit, he covers a square meter. and while dog shit has to be picked up, that doesn't apply for horses. couple this with the fact that I live within one mile of two stables and you have an annoyed eri
On June 04 2004 03:38 Liquid`Drone wrote: also baal
I hate horses because they smell and through shitting all over the place, makes areas around horses smell too. and unlike dogs, when a horse feels like taking a shit, he covers a square meter. and while dog shit has to be picked up, that doesn't apply for horses. couple this with the fact that I live within one mile of two stables and you have an annoyed eri
Frozen Arbiter:"Then again, I'm a vegetarian so I personally don't eat meat at all ^_^" I'm a vegetarian too .We should make a poll about how many we are... ^^
And I didn't answer yes or no, cause its "yes,they are pets".I don't think ppl should use animals as pets either.
Maybe elsewhere, but the vast, vast majority of the time, hamburgers here are made from 100% beef. I've never heard of anyone I know ever eating horsemeat here in the USA. I'm sure people do of course, but it's very rare around here, certainly not as much as you guys seem to think.
there was a place here (a Jack In The Box i think) that was using kangaroo meat for their hamburgers :O than it got shut down due to causing a hepititus B outbreak D=
On June 03 2004 18:58 Servolisk wrote: Eatting things like Veal and Dogs and Shark Fins are not needed to survive. We could manage without eatting any meat in many places, and it would be healthier too.
Following the Servo line of reasoning, we should expel any kind of luxury from our lives and exist with the bare essentials. This is because luxuries are produced at the expense of others, and we should discard them because they're 'not needed to survive'. To produce simple luxuries such as power, paper, living space etc, huge areas of forest are being burned down, land is strip mined, pollution wrecks delicate ecosystems etc etc causing massive damage to the environment. Normal human inhabitation/exploitation of the earth is causing mass extinction to untold numbers of natural species. Do you really stand by the belief that you should only take what you need to survive? And to all the vegetarians, where is your conscience for all the 'poor little animals' when you turn on the lights or lie in your warm bed?
acutally by immigration i mean only let either rich ppl in, or ppl with the education to have a good job that will bring money to the country. also its necessary to have incredibly high standards of background check so no terrorists etc. about homeless ppl? i dont see the difference bw a piece of garbage u put at the corner of ur house for the truck to pick it up to the dumpster and a homeless person. they both pollute, have no economic value, and only harass ppl for money to get more alcohol. not only that but some waste more taxpayers money in mental hospitals or jails. im sure if they would be eliminated ur life wouldnt change one bit. its good to keep the publicity rolling and spiking the hype. im happy u are interested enough to comment. and if u look clearly my point in this thread was stated in my 1st post, all the others were just natural reaction to idiots. and im sure my dog is more intelligent then baal.
On June 04 2004 18:04 BlazeD wrote: acutally by immigration i mean only let either rich ppl in, or ppl with the education to have a good job that will bring money to the country. also its necessary to have incredibly high standards of background check so no terrorists etc. about homeless ppl? i dont see the difference bw a piece of garbage u put at the corner of ur house for the truck to pick it up to the dumpster and a homeless person. they both pollute, have no economic value, and only harass ppl for money to get more alcohol. not only that but some waste more taxpayers money in mental hospitals or jails. im sure if they would be eliminated ur life wouldnt change one bit. its good to keep the publicity rolling and spiking the hype. im happy u are interested enough to comment. and if u look clearly my point in this thread was stated in my 1st post, all the others were just natural reaction to idiots. and im sure my dog is more intelligent then baal.
On June 03 2004 18:58 Servolisk wrote: Eatting things like Veal and Dogs and Shark Fins are not needed to survive. We could manage without eatting any meat in many places, and it would be healthier too.
Following the Servo line of reasoning, we should expel any kind of luxury from our lives and exist with the bare essentials. This is because luxuries are produced at the expense of others, and we should discard them because they're 'not needed to survive'. To produce simple luxuries such as power, paper, living space etc, huge areas of forest are being burned down, land is strip mined, pollution wrecks delicate ecosystems etc etc causing massive damage to the environment. Normal human inhabitation/exploitation of the earth is causing mass extinction to untold numbers of natural species. Do you really stand by the belief that you should only take what you need to survive? And to all the vegetarians, where is your conscience for all the 'poor little animals' when you turn on the lights or lie in your warm bed?
Your last line is stupid. Very.
Can you not see the differance between man slaughter and cannibalism?
eating meat isn't needed at all, i've lived a fair amount of time off fruits/plants (healthily). that's not to say i'm forcing my view on anyone else :O
yeah I agree with naz.. if meat was not so tasty (and while I'm pretty clueless on nutrition, I've heard having some meat in your diet is healthy too. at least being a vegan makes you lack some things. ) I'd probably be a vegetarian.
On June 05 2004 09:31 FrozenArbiter wrote: Your last line is stupid. Very.
Can you not see the differance between man slaughter and cannibalism?
Well maybe I am stupid, I don't understand what you mean by 'the difference manslaughter and cannibalism' ^_^ Expansion on your point would be welcome so I can respond.
edit: I got confused by your emotive choice of language I understand your point to be that we commit 'manslaughter' animals by destroying that habitat etc, and that we are committing 'cannibalism' by eating them. From your post, it seems like you are saying that 'manslaughter' is justifiable/acceptable, whilst 'cannibalism' is somehow worse and unacceptable?
Well I have to say I think this is rather a misleading analogy. Your reasoning is that since we have a direct intention to kill when we eat meat, then this is morally more culpable than when we 'accidentally' kill animals via our normal inhabitation of the earth. Except the environmental/animal cost is not an 'accident', we know for certain that when we hack down that rainforest, that the local wildlife will suffer and die etc Because we know it is an unavoidable consequence, we 'intend' the death just as much as if we were killing it for its meat. A more apt comparison would be murder vs cannibalism.
An often used example to illustrate this. A terrorist blows up a plane and kills everyone on board. He intends it and has thus commited murder. (Eating meat)
A man blows up a plane with his goods upon it in order to effect an insurance scam. His primary aim is not to kill everyone on board, but to get the insurance money. But he knows that everyone on board will die as a result. In this example, the man intends the death of everyone on board just as much as in the first example. This would be analagous to our normal inhabitation of the earth and our exploitation of it.
Whether we are eating meat or turn on the heating, we're still indirectly killing animals. The effect on the animals is exactly the same, yet you are making an exception for eating meat. Since there is no practical difference in distinguishing the two, then you must have some kind of moral basis for saying animals/environment is ok to exploit for other purposes, but not for their meat. What is this moral basis? (Bearing in mind I really do not believe cannibalism/manslaughter is a good comparison for reasons stated.)