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nMn
United States144 Posts
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
Anyway this is a pretty nerdy topic. | ||
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Thratur
Canada917 Posts
So I die every time I go to sleep, faint or get drugged before an operation. I would do it no problem just like I go to sleep every night knowing my consciousness will vanish once again. | ||
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georgir
Bulgaria253 Posts
I'd even want to make a couple copies of myself instead of just one... I won't care for trivial stuff like who is the "real" me - both will be. If it could destroy and recreate you, why wouldn't it theoretically be able to just make copies without destroying the original? Duplicating people, money, everything.... imagine the world with such tech. Though if it is using some quantum teleportation effect, destroying the original might be a necessity in order to measure its properties and be able to recreate them on the other end. Hey, one more tought - who's to say that the universe doesn't get destroyed and recreated in a new state every instant? You might be dieing and being re-created an infinite amount of times already and you don't even realize it  Now more seriously - if there are no observable differences between the original and copy, then by Occam's razor there are no differences at all. They are the same thing. | ||
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hefty
Denmark555 Posts
On August 05 2010 18:52 Coagulation wrote: so basically if you did this you would die.. regardless of the "cloned" you that comes out the other side.. you would cease to exist. By which definition? What 'you' cease to exist? OP states that both mind and body is copied. In that case I would argue that you have just been reassembled elsewhere. | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2751 Posts
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
On August 05 2010 19:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: ...okay, are you asking whether i would let myself die just so a copy of me whose conciousness i don't share can go somewhere else real quick? fuck no, i'll take the bus. if my conciousness is transferred through and i just feel like i teleported, then fuck yeah! atoms is just atoms. This is exactly my thoughts on it. I was like.. if I die... why would it matter if a copy of me existed? | ||
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BrogMaN
United States108 Posts
On August 05 2010 18:54 Uriel_SVK wrote: First I would do it without destruction, and I would ask me if I am still me, or I am not me. If I am still me than i would kill me so there is only one me. But if there would be two me... this leads me to an interesting question... if i would have sex with my other me, would it be gay sex or masturbation? LOL. If you go through the back door then ya, it's homosexual because even if it's with yourself it still means you like taking it in the butt from a dude. On the other hand(lol) if you just mutually masturbate yourselves(?) then I wouldn't call that gay because you're just pleasuring yourself. IDK man, it's a fine line. Especially if you go 69 on yourself. That may be pushing the limit. Personally I wouldn't mind jacking myself off. I do it all the time anyway right? Some people may be too insecure with themselves though. | ||
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foxmeep
Australia2337 Posts
On August 05 2010 19:58 BrogMaN wrote: LOL. If you go through the back door then ya, it's homosexual because even if it's with yourself it still means you like taking it in the butt from a dude. On the other hand(lol) if you just mutually masturbate yourselves(?) then I wouldn't call that gay because you're just pleasuring yourself. IDK man, it's a fine line. Especially if you go 69 on yourself. That may be pushing the limit. Personally I wouldn't mind jacking myself off. I do it all the time anyway right? Some people may be too insecure with themselves though. what the fuck. | ||
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hellokitty[hk]
United States1309 Posts
What if you were running late for school (lol, maybe not so much)? Work? A date? | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On August 05 2010 19:57 SCC-Faust wrote: This is exactly my thoughts on it. I was like.. if I die... why would it matter if a copy of me existed? Because it's like in the prestige, since it's an exact copy of yourself, with the exact state of mind, when you go out of the destination machine, you don't even realize you are a copy, so basically you didn't die. Because the copy doesn't feel he is a copy, he just stepped in the machine, teleported, and stepped out. Imo, it's very similar to the quantum suicide. I don't know why it hasn't been mentionned yet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
hahahahaha These kind of teleporters are always the ones in SCI FI that have the problems. Like 'The Fly' or like in star trek where people get trapped in some unknown place and have X amount of time before they dematerialize indefinitely. I'd say no for daily use, unless it was 100% necessary to survive. | ||
KwarK
United States43746 Posts
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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BrogMaN
United States108 Posts
On August 05 2010 19:57 Navane wrote: The important question is: if you would die anyway because the earth would cease to exist, would you let yourself teleport out, even if it means you will be forced to have sex with yourself? (the machine will make like 5 copies of you which will have to participate in an orgy with each other) Would you? Hmm... that's a bit tougher. I'm going to have to say yes. Although I'm not too keen on myself getting penetrated...by myself, it's far more important for me to carry out my biological purpose of perpetuating my genes than to throw away that opportunity just because of a few minutes of discomfort/pain. At least it'll be me doing the penetrating, so I'd know I'd go gentle hahaha. Also, if I get 5 copies of myself then that's even more chances to pass on my genes so it'd would be totally worth it in the end. Thinking about all this stuff is hilarious! hahaha oh man. | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
On August 05 2010 19:39 Thratur wrote: I've thought about this and then I realized that what makes your consciousness is only your short term memory. So I die every time I go to sleep, faint or get drugged before an operation. I would do it no problem just like I go to sleep every night knowing my consciousness will vanish once again. your subconscious is a huge, huge statistical engine which takes all the data you receive, figures out whats important and makes decisions in your best interest for you. it's shaped by your experiences, training, reading, schooling, everything you do. what makes part of your consciousness is your short-term memory @op: no. I wouldn't do this. I kind of see it as the same as suicide | ||
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BrogMaN
United States108 Posts
Thanks CharlieMurphy. I knew you would approve. | ||
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sikyon
Canada1045 Posts
If you don't believe in an immortal soul, this machine should not trouble you at all because it is no different than what happens every day. If you do believe in an immortal soul, it still shouldn't trouble you because you should believe that your soul will follow your body. It would take a very specific kind of belief to disallow such a machine. | ||
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Thratur
Canada917 Posts
On August 05 2010 20:11 KurtistheTurtle wrote: your subconscious is a huge, huge statistical engine which takes all the data you receive, figures out whats important and makes decisions in your best interest for you. it's shaped by your experiences, training, reading, schooling, everything you do. what makes part of your consciousness is your short-term memory @op: no. I wouldn't do this. I kind of see it as the same as suicide You're right. Short-term memory wasn't the best word, but at least it was close to what I wanted to say. Same thing anyway. What I mean is that your consciousness comes from the actual state of your brain and the feeling of continuity from the past 5 minutes and nothing more. However I would not include experience, training, reading etc in consciousness. They affect your decisions and personality, etc, but I define consciousness as the feeling of existence someone may have. It is not affected by his experience as it has no relevant characteristics. | ||
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