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gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
July 16 2010 15:45 GMT
#181
On July 16 2010 08:25 keV. wrote:


Oh boy.

Her average supporter:

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TrySuckingLess:
2 weeks ago
Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A conservative Babe (my favorite) who can shoot guns. Sweetie, you should try doing it in a Bikini, I would love it.


this is politics for u. You spew some of the most insane shit to please a bunch of insane people. If you take the rational approach, uneducated fuckers on both sides of the spectrum will go against you.
Yurebis
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1452 Posts
July 16 2010 15:55 GMT
#182
I think the err in believing that people should (or should not) have guns lies on the belief that you're entitled to say what they should (or should not) have period...
Oh but thats off topic, yeah.
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
9876543210987654321
Profile Joined March 2010
28 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 16:01:19
July 16 2010 16:00 GMT
#183
Relevant: Democracy Now! had a story about Arizona yesterday:

Ken Silverstein of Harper’s Says Arizona is Laboratory for Radical GOP Policies

This link belongs in the OP, in my humble opinion.
MLG_Wiggin
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States767 Posts
July 16 2010 16:03 GMT
#184
I think it's very interesting that people trust police who don't need a college degree, don't know them, and are often overworked and far away, or will trust armed forces lead by such "capable" leaders as George W. Bush, but they won't trust themselves with a weapon.
@DBWiggin, SC2 ref
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 16 2010 16:08 GMT
#185
On July 17 2010 01:03 w_Ender_w wrote:
I think it's very interesting that people trust police who don't need a college degree, don't know them, and are often overworked and far away, or will trust armed forces lead by such "capable" leaders as George W. Bush, but they won't trust themselves with a weapon.


Yeah, that's why I don't trust the police or the military. I would rather carry a gun and be allowed to protect myself than trust someone else to do it for me. That being said, I have no intention of buying a gun.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 16 2010 16:13 GMT
#186
On July 17 2010 01:08 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 01:03 w_Ender_w wrote:
I think it's very interesting that people trust police who don't need a college degree, don't know them, and are often overworked and far away, or will trust armed forces lead by such "capable" leaders as George W. Bush, but they won't trust themselves with a weapon.


Yeah, that's why I don't trust the police or the military. I would rather carry a gun and be allowed to protect myself than trust someone else to do it for me. That being said, I have no intention of buying a gun.

Hehe.... I'd be down with having a gun in my house, I know I can handle it... I have no intention of buying a gun or ever owning one whatsoever.

The main issue is, I don't trust other people with them, because people aren't to be trusted with guns... And I the last thing you want is guns in bars, really. So many reasons for a fight to happen in there, the last thing you need is for a bunch of people to pull out their guns.

I like how the far right doesn't care about bringing us back to the Red Dead Redemption days =P
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
July 16 2010 16:15 GMT
#187
On July 17 2010 01:00 9876543210987654321 wrote:
Relevant: Democracy Now! had a story about Arizona yesterday:

Ken Silverstein of Harper’s Says Arizona is Laboratory for Radical GOP Policies

This link belongs in the OP, in my humble opinion.


There is hope that if you turn your state into a neo-conservative wet dream, you'll at least be entirely screwed economically for the next few decades.
Bananas
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden98 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 17:42:30
July 16 2010 17:41 GMT
#188
PEWPEWPEW

She Wanted Guns for kindergarten kids? seriosly? wow...
"terrible terrible damage"
kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
July 16 2010 19:20 GMT
#189
On July 16 2010 14:10 Jibba wrote:
Do people not take Civics classes anymore? Stop with this originalist bullshit. There was no single intent of the Founding Fathers and even if that magical cohesive idea existed, it'd be impossible to understand it today. The Constitution is a living document that has shed its skin for every new era. This is not a modern thing. It was given elasticity for these purposes.


You realize that you've basically just made an argument in support of Textualism, and then magically found your way to a ridiculous claim that the Constitution is a "living document" with no actual support of that statement.

It is essentially impossible to make a vaguely good argument in favor of any Constitutional interpretation theory except strict Textualism. I wish people would stop trying.
Like a G6
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
July 16 2010 19:38 GMT
#190
On July 17 2010 04:20 kzn wrote:
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On July 16 2010 14:10 Jibba wrote:
Do people not take Civics classes anymore? Stop with this originalist bullshit. There was no single intent of the Founding Fathers and even if that magical cohesive idea existed, it'd be impossible to understand it today. The Constitution is a living document that has shed its skin for every new era. This is not a modern thing. It was given elasticity for these purposes.


You realize that you've basically just made an argument in support of Textualism, and then magically found your way to a ridiculous claim that the Constitution is a "living document" with no actual support of that statement.

It is essentially impossible to make a vaguely good argument in favor of any Constitutional interpretation theory except strict Textualism. I wish people would stop trying.


The constitution was prefaced with the fact that should it no longer become a suitable document, it is the job of the people to replace it. Combine that with the fact that the constitution has specific provisions for these things called "amendments" which basically say, yes you change, add, or subtract from the constitution.

The ultimate irony is that gun nuts who staunchly oppose any concept of the constitution as a living document also tend to cite their second amendment more then anything else, the first "edit" the constitution recieved.

Likewise, it's bullshit to say that a 234 year old document could, in any way, predict the needs and wants of a future society. Even if written by 1776 futurists, there's no way one could accurately predict the exact state of society over two centuries from now. Whether or not the constitution was "meant to change" is pointless in the context of this conversation anyway.
GuerrillaRepublik
Profile Joined June 2010
United States34 Posts
July 16 2010 19:57 GMT
#191
I trust my m1 super 90 not the feds/police. i dont trust any bueracrats in this world, i trust in god and my right for preservation of life and my family They might enslaved the people by cooperate cosmocology but they will never take away how i defend my life and my family and this should go for everyone because we should all control our own destiny.
dont start none wont be none
Pawsom
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States928 Posts
July 16 2010 20:00 GMT
#192
On July 17 2010 04:57 GuerrillaRepublik wrote:
I trust my m1 super 90 not the feds/police. i dont trust any bueracrats in this world, i trust in god and my right for preservation of life and my family They might enslaved the people by cooperate cosmocology but they will never take away how i defend my life and my family and this should go for everyone because we should all control our own destiny.


Have you ever been in a situation where you could only defend your life and family because you had a handgun?
Kingsp4de20
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States716 Posts
July 16 2010 20:08 GMT
#193
Now thats my kinda chick! Wouldnt want to get on her bad side though haha
GuerrillaRepublik
Profile Joined June 2010
United States34 Posts
July 16 2010 20:09 GMT
#194
On July 17 2010 05:00 Pawsom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 04:57 GuerrillaRepublik wrote:
I trust my m1 super 90 not the feds/police. i dont trust any bueracrats in this world, i trust in god and my right for preservation of life and my family They might enslaved the people by cooperate cosmocology but they will never take away how i defend my life and my family and this should go for everyone because we should all control our own destiny.


Have you ever been in a situation where you could only defend your life and family because you had a handgun?


Have you ever been in situation where you could only defend you life and family because you had a phone and know how to dial 911?. Is there something wrong with gun ownership and having the right to defend my family? its not handgun either.
dont start none wont be none
Zoltan
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States656 Posts
July 16 2010 20:10 GMT
#195
She wants kindergardeners to have guns.

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'HOW LONG HAVE THOSE REAPERS BEEN KILLING MY PROBES?!?!
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
July 16 2010 20:13 GMT
#196
Yo I hurd that you like guns
so I put a gun in your gun
so you can shoot shoot while you shoot
Aiyeeeee
PacketOverflow
Profile Joined May 2010
United States80 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 20:17:54
July 16 2010 20:17 GMT
#197
People can barely fucking drive properly and she wants everyone to have a gun in public places, including schools!? Between this and flying cars I'm starting to get very scared for my safety.

How are the police going to maintain their advantage not to mention safety when they have to make random arrests, with the possibility of removing someone from a bar turning into a warzone? Guess grenade launchers are going to become standard issue in police car trunks now.

At least I don't live in Arizona. I feel bad for anyone that does.
Fight or flight? Yeah, right.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
July 16 2010 20:18 GMT
#198
Ok, I am not coming to the US anytime soon. Not only are there many crazy people following twisted logic, they also get more and more dangerous.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
PacketOverflow
Profile Joined May 2010
United States80 Posts
July 16 2010 20:38 GMT
#199
On July 17 2010 05:18 spinesheath wrote:
Ok, I am not coming to the US anytime soon. Not only are there many crazy people following twisted logic, they also get more and more dangerous.


The laws of one state do not apply to the entire United States.
Fight or flight? Yeah, right.
SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
July 16 2010 20:50 GMT
#200
With all the guns floating around in Arizona, makes you wonder where all the gunfight is happening. Surely armed people getting into an argument will not end well. You'd think there'd be random shootouts in the middle of the street. Maybe there are but the press doesn't cover it?
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