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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-12 00:59:18
February 12 2017 00:58 GMT
#16821
Or, if you decide to do C++, you can do this instead:

constexpr size_t ARRAY_LENGTH = 50;
T arr[ARRAY_LENGTH];

C would be just outdated if it wasn't for embedded systems, operating systems and drivers.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 12 2017 01:18 GMT
#16822
In C, can I refer to an array index by the value of another array?

like


int array[5];
int array_two[5];

array_two[3] = 1;

array[array_two[3]] = 7;
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
February 12 2017 01:45 GMT
#16823
Did compiler stop working for you? Part of fun is to compile and see.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 12 2017 01:47 GMT
#16824
sigh

*goes and checks*
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-12 01:55:42
February 12 2017 01:51 GMT
#16825
Wow, I've just tried to replace 5 with the following:

const int SIZE = 5;
int array[SIZE];

Fine in C++. Not compiling in C. Fuck you C. :D
That said, if I was going to do it properly in C++, it would be:

constexpr size_t SIZE = 5;

Your example compiles and runs fine in C and C++. However, I'd advise you to stick with size_t instead of int for size of array. size_t is an unsigned integer or unsigned long long, so it doesn't make sense for size of arrays to have a negative value.
Hanh
Profile Joined June 2016
146 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-12 03:22:31
February 12 2017 03:17 GMT
#16826
These dynamic arrays are allocated from the stack. Unless you can make sure that they are small you shouldn't spend stack space because it's only typically a few K in size.
If you want to allocate dynamically from the stack, there is the function 'alloca'
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 00:07:13
February 13 2017 00:05 GMT
#16827
On February 12 2017 12:17 Hanh wrote:
These dynamic arrays are allocated from the stack. Unless you can make sure that they are small you shouldn't spend stack space because it's only typically a few K in size.
If you want to allocate dynamically from the stack, there is the function 'alloca'


Good to know if I ever have to write pure C code without malloc. I remember at university there was some task to ask user for numbers. Catch was not knowing how many they are, so we had to do some dumb stuff like

#define ARRAY_LENGTH 1000

And hope it's enough...

Good thing is you have std::vector<type> in such cases, but alas, it was a C module. I suppose you can still do a dynamic array like vector, but you will just have to reinvent the wheel.
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 00:41:51
February 13 2017 00:40 GMT
#16828
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 02:46:53
February 13 2017 02:43 GMT
#16829
-lol misread-
There is no one like you in the universe.
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 03:35:16
February 13 2017 03:09 GMT
#16830
snippet of my code in python:

'solved'

I'm getting 'AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'last'' on line the first line of my def INSERT

Anyone know why this is? I'm pretty sure I did this correctly but I guess not

edit:

holy lol

apparently def whatever (x, self) doesn't work? I did not know self had to be the first argument. sigh I hate syntax issues lol
TL/SKT
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 03:36:38
February 13 2017 03:34 GMT
#16831
On February 13 2017 12:09 dsyxelic wrote:
snippet of my code in python:


from array import array
class ListArray:

maxlength = 100
elements = array('i')
last = -1

def __init__(self):
self.elements=[0]*self.maxlength

#return position of last index+1
def END(self):
return last+1

def INSERT(x, p, self):
if (self.last+1 >= self.maxlength):
print 'Error: Cannot insert, list is full.'


I'm getting 'AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'last'' on line the first line of my def INSERT

Anyone know why this is? I'm pretty sure I did this correctly but I guess not


AFAIK

   def INSERT(x, p, self):


should be

   def INSERT(self, x, p):


otherwise you should be calling x.last
There is no one like you in the universe.
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
February 13 2017 03:36 GMT
#16832
On February 13 2017 12:34 Blisse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2017 12:09 dsyxelic wrote:
snippet of my code in python:


from array import array
class ListArray:

maxlength = 100
elements = array('i')
last = -1

def __init__(self):
self.elements=[0]*self.maxlength

#return position of last index+1
def END(self):
return last+1

def INSERT(x, p, self):
if (self.last+1 >= self.maxlength):
print 'Error: Cannot insert, list is full.'


I'm getting 'AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'last'' on line the first line of my def INSERT

Anyone know why this is? I'm pretty sure I did this correctly but I guess not


AFAIK


def INSERT(x, p, self):


should be


def INSERT(self, x, p):


otherwise you should be calling x.last


thank you haha I just realized that.
IDE's are helpful. I tried my code in an IDE and it basically told me what to fix right away. I should use the IDE more when I have syntax problems.
TL/SKT
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 03:49:43
February 13 2017 03:46 GMT
#16833
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dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
February 13 2017 04:03 GMT
#16834
On February 13 2017 12:46 Nesserev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2017 12:09 dsyxelic wrote:
snippet of my code in python:

'solved'

I'm getting 'AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'last'' on line the first line of my def INSERT

Anyone know why this is? I'm pretty sure I did this correctly but I guess not

edit:

holy lol

apparently def whatever (x, self) doesn't work? I did not know self had to be the first argument. sigh I hate syntax issues lol

Self has to be the first parameter of your class method, because the object on which the method is called, is always passed as the first argument. (The parameter's name doesn't have to be self though... but you should call it self anyway, because conventions.).

Second, I also noticed that you made maxlength, elements and last class member, so basically every instance of ListArray would share those variables... if you have more than one instance of said class, they'd probably overwrite each other constantly. Instead, instance members should be initialized in the __init__ function, any other class function, or just x.member from the "outside".


class ListArray:

maxlength = 100 # class member, one per class, shared by all instances

def __init__(self):
self.elements=array('i') # instance member, one per instance
self.last = -1


Basically, instance members have to be tagged on. When you say x = ListArray(), you start out with an "empty" object, and __init__ for ListArray is run, which first adds the elements member, and then the last member.


Thank you, that was really helpful. That was silly of me.
Everything's working great now, thank you!
TL/SKT
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17756 Posts
February 13 2017 11:11 GMT
#16835
https://datamancer.com/

Fuuuuck me! Why do I have to be so poor?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
February 13 2017 17:02 GMT
#16836
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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
February 13 2017 19:07 GMT
#16837
I've been asked if there is any significant technology coming up for computing, but I don't know anything major other than quantum computer. Is there anything else?
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17756 Posts
February 13 2017 21:25 GMT
#16838
On February 14 2017 04:07 Shield wrote:
I've been asked if there is any significant technology coming up for computing, but I don't know anything major other than quantum computer. Is there anything else?


Besides quantum computing you have some closer goals, like everything working under 64bit architecture, parallelism everywhere and all programs being able to utilize all of the cores. But that's more on the software side. In hardware we already have some new materials like graphene, some cooling technologies without the use of fans or water (plates that bend under temperature and generate air flow) etc. etc.

Currently we're pretty much at the limit of silicon and other materials so until something new comes along and is cheap enough to mass-produce we're pretty much done (notice that for some years now CPU clock speed doesn't really increase, just the number of cores does).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 13 2017 22:26 GMT
#16839
Let's go over some discrete math questions I am unsure about!

give an infinite subset X in Q that contains no elements in set N
my answer: Q less than 0 (this one seemed easy but it's weird so im checking)

give an infinite subset X in R that contains no elements in set Q
my answer: the set of irrational numbers? though I know of no actual proof that this set is infinite in size, I am just guessing it is



find an infinite domain where the statement is true OR show that there is NO such domain. explain. then do the same but attempting to show that the statement is false.

(for all x)(there exists y)[(x < y < 1 ) and (not (x < z < y) ]

for False, I say the natural numbers. If y < 1, then y must be 0. So x cannot be less than y.

for True, we know we our domain must not be a dense set (I've got this right, correct?) since there is no z between x and y. So we are dealing with integers or some such. But there doesn't seem to be any domain that actually works here, because we can't find a y > x and less than 1 in a set that isn't dense.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
February 13 2017 23:03 GMT
#16840
On February 14 2017 07:26 travis wrote:
give an infinite subset X in Q that contains no elements in set N
my answer: Q less than 0 (this one seemed easy but it's weird so im checking)

That works. Also any subset that is each element in N plus some fraction between 0 and 1, or 1 divided by all integer numbers greater than 1 and so on...

On February 14 2017 07:26 travis wrote:
give an infinite subset X in R that contains no elements in set Q
my answer: the set of irrational numbers? though I know of no actual proof that this set is infinite in size, I am just guessing it is

Can get real creative with this one too. Like I'm pretty sure that the set of all n-th roots of 3 where n in N and n > 1 should fit. Integer (except 0) multiples of pi (or any irrational number) work just as well.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
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