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my addictions: brood war - i used to be addicted, but i haven't played about 3 months so i guess i am cured tobacco - i smoke 10-20 cigs a day, trying to lower the amount gambling - i play roulette and slot machines. I think it's under control, but it is an addiction beer - I drink at least couple beers everyday, cause czech beer is the best
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Smoked a lot of weed between 15 and 20 and played quite alot of BW between 20 and 25. Never been a fan of MMORPGs. I smoke 4 or 5 cigs a day which isn't much. Back when I was a kid I could play Civ 2 10 hours straight :p
A piece of advice : don't sacrifice your social life at any cost. Friendship is the most valuable thing in the world.
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On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote: Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though. Smoke, eat, snort enough of anything and you will develop somewhat of a dependency. If you take any chemical day-in-day-out your body will begin to think that it's a normal state and when that state isn't recreated you will suffer withdrawal.
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LOL title needs to be changed in that video.. "Guy rips monitor in half with nerd rage.." I played WoW for ahwile, stopped doing other things with my life, now i play starcraft and life's good.
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On June 16 2010 04:14 Darpinion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote: Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though. Smoke, eat, snort enough of anything and you will develop somewhat of a dependency. If you take any chemical day-in-day-out your body will begin to think that it's a normal state and when that state isn't recreated you will suffer withdrawal.
yes (i don't know if you are scientifically correct, I'm just going to assume you are) but how powerful are the withdrawal effects of weed? they are minimal. I've had worse withdrawals from coffee than i have for weed.
i have taken all sorts of opiates, although never through the needle; never been physically addicted, i always spread out doses by at least 2 weeks. this is mostly because i have a ridiculously high natural tolerance to every opiate i have tried except fentanyl, gets expensive man.
the only drug i feel i have been both physically and mentally addicted to is mephedrone, the only stim i have taken.
WoW is nothing compared to drugs for me, i dont think many WoW players do anything "higher" than weed so they wouldn't know..
i really don't understand how a person can be 'addicted' to WoW...
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WoW has at certain times been an addiction for me, maybe it still is. Like a lot of people here I have been playing games for the majority of my life, and yet the only time it has ever become an unhealthy habit compared to an enjoyable hobby was when I played WoW.
My WoW addiction comes and goes. Ever since I first picked up the game three years ago I have gone through phases where I would play additively for hours a day months at a time, to quitting literally cold turkey for months at a time. For some reason, every now and then I would wake up (usually after raiding for hours the night before) and have absolutely no desire to play, and would not log on for the next few months. Unfortunately, I would later pick the game up and be as addicted as ever. An unusual and certainly unhealthy habit.
About a month ago when I got into the SC2 Beta I stopped playing WoW regularly (went from playing 6-8 hours a day to 1 hour a week) and have for the first time decided to consciously quit. I have realized that I can no longer afford to waste such precious time on a game anymore, and so I'm taking the advantage of having SC2 to try and quit for good. Having something to fall back on makes it significantly easier.
Like many people, the reason I have trouble quitting WoW is twofold. Firstly, finding something to fill in all that time spent playing, it can be a little shocking when you have an extra 6-8 hours in a day. And secondly, actually giving up all that "time and effort" put into your characters, and starting over on something else.
For anyone trying to quit I would suggest trying to realize the lack of return you get for playing the game in large quantities. Playing a few hours a week can be rewarding as it is enjoyable and relaxing, however most people who play many hours a day can probably agree that for every 5-8 hours session, you only enjoy a small portion of that. Its a bit of a paradox really, the less you play an mmo, the more rewarding it is in "real life" yet the more you play an mmo, the more rewarding it is in game.
I would also suggest finding something to fall back on. Those who are addicted are faced with the challenge of filling the gap left when they quit. You must find something to do in those empty hours, and must be careful not to fill it with something worse or equally distressful. For me its the pleasure of SC2 and writing augmented with the inevitable burdens of school and work. If your here on TL then SC can probably help you too, though I would strongly suggest not devoting all your new found time into it and end up in a similar scenario all over again.
Hopefully this post and the similar ones posted earlier can help those trying to quit, reading this thread has certainly given me some inspiration at the least.
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I actually think I have a caffeine addiction. When I don't drink coffee for a few days, I feel noticeably worse. Fortunately, all I have to do to remedy the situation is drink more coffee.
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On June 16 2010 08:25 Day[9] wrote: I actually think I have a caffeine addiction. When I don't drink coffee for a few days, I feel noticeably worse. Fortunately, all I have to do to remedy the situation is drink more coffee.
I was addicted to coffee and would get a powerful splitting headache if I didn't drink it first thing in the morning. I would drink it from waking up to going to sleep. We're talking 20 cups of strong coffee per day. I slept 10-12 hours per night and would still feel tired all the time despite the coffee.
I used the ramp-down schedule posted earlier in this thread, reducing my consumption by 7.5 ml per day and I am almost clean of caffeine. I am now sleeping 6-8 hours per night and feel much better during the day.
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On June 14 2010 02:19 minus_human wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 01:31 Wr3k wrote:On June 14 2010 01:30 Master Shaman wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote: It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Spoken like a true addict. If smothing pot once every 4-6 months is an addiction then I guess you caught me you stupid fuck. I haven't been to a dealer in 4 years. What is your problem? Relax, no one was insulting you
Someone needs to chill out and smoke more pot. 
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It's how we are made, we just have to be addicted to something.
Just have to pick what to be addicted to wisely
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On June 16 2010 08:25 Day[9] wrote: I actually think I have a caffeine addiction. When I don't drink coffee for a few days, I feel noticeably worse. Fortunately, all I have to do to remedy the situation is drink more coffee. I think caffeine takes longer to kick than you'd think. I have friends who have to not drink coffee for weeks to get back to shape without the 'addiction'.
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ah dude don't go back to WoW.
get off ur PC and do something else. its just such a mindless brain drain and a total waste of your time. ur not even having fun, ur just playing because u have to.
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I've been drinking almost daily for 2 years and still nothing. Last month I had no money so I was sober for 30 days, didn't have a single problem doing so. I guess I'm lucky, but still, I would like to be addicted to something just to see how it is to stop.
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On June 15 2010 15:45 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 11:08 Cloud wrote:On June 15 2010 10:47 PanN wrote:On June 15 2010 08:11 Zoltan wrote:On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote: Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though. im not trying to inspire fear. It is addictive long term though, just not short term. And compared to quitting nicotine it would be like quitting chewing gum. I have smoked pot for two years in a row, there hasn't been a day that's gone by where I haven't been high at least twice a day. I quit last week. Easiest thing ever, I tried quitting soda once, felt like I was dying the next day. You "quit" for a week. Come back next year and tell us how you have never touched a blunt in that period of time. Yeah k I will. Then what? Are you implying I can't quit smoking? You sure are basing that off a whole ton of information. Also, I've quit harder drugs in the past, and haven't touched any in years. Please don't make assumptions from thin air, it makes you look ignorant. Because see, you don't know me at all =)
I'm implying that not smoking for a week is not quitting. But thanks for unnecessarily flaunting your ego, now I know enough about you.
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On June 16 2010 08:25 Day[9] wrote: I actually think I have a caffeine addiction. When I don't drink coffee for a few days, I feel noticeably worse. Fortunately, all I have to do to remedy the situation is drink more coffee. I think caffeine addiction is quite common actually. Many people feel these adverse physiological effects (big words = me watching big bang theory =/ me being smort). Thing is, when you're that addicted, caffeine doesn't even affect you. Certainly, you may need it to get through the day, but you will have as much energy as you did before you started drinking caffeine in the first place.
Coffee and energy drinks are best for occasional use.
Anyways, I don't know what the term is for developing resistances to drugs and chemicals such as caffeine. Habitualization? Very common occurrence, as I'm sure most people, even just alchol consumers, would know.
I think one good way to quit caffeine is to drink a tiny bit less every day (yes you do measure it) to wean yourself off. Keep everything in an excel spreadsheet. Another way is to use grain coffee.
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On June 16 2010 04:55 UbOs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2010 04:14 Darpinion wrote:On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote: Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though. Smoke, eat, snort enough of anything and you will develop somewhat of a dependency. If you take any chemical day-in-day-out your body will begin to think that it's a normal state and when that state isn't recreated you will suffer withdrawal. yes (i don't know if you are scientifically correct, I'm just going to assume you are) but how powerful are the withdrawal effects of weed? they are minimal. I've had worse withdrawals from coffee than i have for weed. i have taken all sorts of opiates, although never through the needle; never been physically addicted, i always spread out doses by at least 2 weeks. this is mostly because i have a ridiculously high natural tolerance to every opiate i have tried except fentanyl, gets expensive man. the only drug i feel i have been both physically and mentally addicted to is mephedrone, the only stim i have taken. WoW is nothing compared to drugs for me, i dont think many WoW players do anything "higher" than weed so they wouldn't know.. i really don't understand how a person can be 'addicted' to WoW...
They're not physically addicted! It isn't a chemical. It's completely psychological, but what's the difference? Really? Coffee definitely has worse withdrawal then marijuana and is considered (in the scientific community) to be one of the most addictive drugs that there is. I'm just saying that people who say that marijuana has no physical dependence haven't smoked enough marijuana to realize that YES it does have a physical dependence factor and that you just have to do it enough for it the manifest.
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On June 16 2010 22:29 Darpinion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2010 04:55 UbOs wrote:On June 16 2010 04:14 Darpinion wrote:On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote: Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though. Smoke, eat, snort enough of anything and you will develop somewhat of a dependency. If you take any chemical day-in-day-out your body will begin to think that it's a normal state and when that state isn't recreated you will suffer withdrawal. yes (i don't know if you are scientifically correct, I'm just going to assume you are) but how powerful are the withdrawal effects of weed? they are minimal. I've had worse withdrawals from coffee than i have for weed. i have taken all sorts of opiates, although never through the needle; never been physically addicted, i always spread out doses by at least 2 weeks. this is mostly because i have a ridiculously high natural tolerance to every opiate i have tried except fentanyl, gets expensive man. the only drug i feel i have been both physically and mentally addicted to is mephedrone, the only stim i have taken. WoW is nothing compared to drugs for me, i dont think many WoW players do anything "higher" than weed so they wouldn't know.. i really don't understand how a person can be 'addicted' to WoW... They're not physically addicted! It isn't a chemical. It's completely psychological, but what's the difference? Really? Coffee definitely has worse withdrawal then marijuana and is considered (in the scientific community) to be one of the most addictive drugs that there is. I'm just saying that people who say that marijuana has no physical dependence haven't smoked enough marijuana to realize that YES it does have a physical dependence factor and that you just have to do it enough for it the manifest.
What isn't a chemical? THC and cannabinoids? If you don't know or care about the differences between physical addiction and psychological addiction I don't see how you're arguing about it.
I get what you're saying and i have smoked 2+ grams a day for awhile at points in my life but I have just been told by more informed people than I that there is no chemical aspect of the withdrawal effects of marijuana. I do remember having eating problems but that only lasted for a week and have been told that is just because I was conditioned to eat only after I smoked. That would explain why I never had any sleeping problems as I never smoke before bed. I'll ask some people about the issue, but unless you're going to start citing sources, I'll have a hard time believing anything you say about the scientific basis of the issue.
People say every non psychedelic drug is the most addictive drug in the world.
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Coffee addiction was pretty subtle for me. Never drank it until college, and only then when I needed to (problem sets/tests). Then all of a sudden my junior year I found myself drinking 3-4 cups a day, and operating around 50-70% of my capacity without it... pretty weird and disconcerting -- not sure how I got there.
So I decided to give it up for Lent ... 40 days did the trick, haven't drank on a consistent basis since.
[More about coffee addiction: http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/02/22/coffee]
Video games and porn on the other hand ... I've tried so hard, so many times, it keeps coming back to bite me in the ass. I hit rock bottom my junior year, and by a miracle I came off it, didn't touch the stuff for 5 years after that. Unfortunately I slipped back into it 1.5 yrs ago =( Which really sucks because I have a really good job (albeit really long hours), great friendships, an awesome girlfriend, a great church ... and I feel like I'm slowly spiraling down to the point where they're all slowly suffering and I'm gonna lose them eventually. Freaking A man ... what is wrong with me.
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On June 16 2010 22:05 Cloud wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 15:45 PanN wrote:On June 15 2010 11:08 Cloud wrote:On June 15 2010 10:47 PanN wrote:On June 15 2010 08:11 Zoltan wrote:On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote: Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though. im not trying to inspire fear. It is addictive long term though, just not short term. And compared to quitting nicotine it would be like quitting chewing gum. I have smoked pot for two years in a row, there hasn't been a day that's gone by where I haven't been high at least twice a day. I quit last week. Easiest thing ever, I tried quitting soda once, felt like I was dying the next day. You "quit" for a week. Come back next year and tell us how you have never touched a blunt in that period of time. Yeah k I will. Then what? Are you implying I can't quit smoking? You sure are basing that off a whole ton of information. Also, I've quit harder drugs in the past, and haven't touched any in years. Please don't make assumptions from thin air, it makes you look ignorant. Because see, you don't know me at all =) I'm implying that not smoking for a week is not quitting. But thanks for unnecessarily flaunting your ego, now I know enough about you.
I'm going to settle this through pm, I get banned too much. <3
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Took adderall twice a day for 8 months-ish. Ended up with pretty severe psychosis (hallucinations, delusions, paranoia), so obviously that had to stop... still have the psychosis, though - just not as bad :\.
I guess you could say I was addicted to weed at two separate points as well, since I at those points spent every spare dollar on it. The first time was maybe two months long and the second time, about five or six. The only reason I'm not smoking anymore is because I currently don't have contact with my long-time best friend and previous roommate.
I've tried cocaine as well. Everybody I know who tried it, including me, says it's just not worth the money.
[B]On June 16 2010 22:29 Darpinion wrote: Coffee definitely has worse withdrawal then marijuana and is considered (in the scientific community) to be one of the most addictive drugs that there is. Caffeine isn't considered one of the most addictive drugs - it's actually somewhere toward the bottom, even if you consider the fact that it's a physical addiction rather than mental. Here's a chart:
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2009/12/13/you_cant_handle_the_truth/
which doesn't even rank caffeine because it's just not that harmful, misused, or mentally addictive ('high' affect) - and the physical addiction just isn't that strong. The worst withdrawal symptom is, for god's sake, a headache, which I'd rank way more appealing than depression. Cocaine, for example, doesn't have any physical addiction to it, nor physical withdrawal symptoms, but you sure are in for one horrible bout of depression after an all-nighter of use.
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