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Many of us have addictive behaviors that are unhealthy. Many of us have had the mental strength to terminate these during our lives. Share your story of addiction and relapse.
For a period of several months, I played World of Warcraft nearly non-stop. It was very unhealthy. I rejected social invitations and called into work in order to play WoW. It wouldn't be so bad if it was a quality game like Starcraft Broodwar, but it is a terribly designed game with very low skill cap. It is full of bad mannered noobs who can't even be competent with the easiest game in the world.
Right now as I ramp off of coffee, I'm feeling an overwhelming urge to relapse into that bad game. I am downloading the client again right now. It is 14 gigabytes of slaying noobs and harvesting worthless electronic trinkets. Somebody stop me.
Poll: The worst habit you've had:World of Warcraft (283) 45% Other game (159) 25% Other drug (68) 11% Tobacco (64) 10% Alcohol (25) 4% Coffee (16) 3% Cocaine (16) 3% 631 total votes Your vote: The worst habit you've had: (Vote): World of Warcraft
(Vote): Tobacco
(Vote): Coffee
(Vote): Cocaine
(Vote): Alcohol
(Vote): Other drug
(Vote): Other game
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I played WoW constantly, atlest 8h per day from EU release until a few weeks before TBC, would not say that it was a bad habit thou. But you sound like a lost cause man!
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Um...does reading TeamLiquid count? I seriously think that anything can become an addiction.
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Pac Man and comic books plus mountain dew. Those three things are what I had for hours on end till me dad took em all away >.<
edit:^^ Agree. I think thats my new addiction >.<
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i'm doing a decent job of fighting off my BW addiction
don't reinstall WoW man, seriously, just stop the DL and add an entry for the download website to your host file
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I'm playing Runes of Magic, which is a wow clone that replaces what little skill factor wow has with total gear dependency. It's a horrible game. I should be studying for finals, but instead I'm grinding dailies.
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On June 14 2010 00:48 anderoo wrote:i'm doing a decent job of fighting off my BW addiction don't reinstall WoW man, seriously, just stop the DL and add an entry for the download website to your host file
Thank you for your words of support. I left BW off the poll though because I feel it gives you skills that transfer to many productive activities. It makes you faster at any computer work and even improves your micro in physical work like driving, washing dishes, and building/crafting.
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The guy working 80hr weeks is not an addict. However if you play BW an hour a day you need to go to rehab. Coffee addiction? If you wanna play WoW, no one here is going to judge you. Chance are no one where you live is going to either. Enjoy and have fun
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Correction: The guy working 80hr weeks IS an addict, and his addiction is also more productive than wow by a factor of infinity.
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On June 14 2010 01:00 Biochemist wrote:
Correction: The guy working 80hr weeks IS an addict, and his addiction is also more productive than wow by a factor of infinity.
Did I mention he builds nukes for Iran
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Last.fm. Seriously, I've had over 9000 plays in 2 days.
I keep going back there and just looking at my library.
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I was addicted to tobacco for about 2 months. Very short compared to my WoW addiction. No question WoW was harder to quit.
I kept telling myself I liked the game, even though all my posts on the forum said otherwise and I would cuss at the flight times, raid times, farming times, etc etc. I couldn't just quit cold turkey. I quit once and kept reading the forums and blogs; tried to let myself down easy. But I went back with an alt; didn't play my main. Still I could feel the disgusting side effects. I was more angry, got less sex, and didn't sleep as much.. So I quit again, this time for good.
For tobacco, quitting just took a few restless nights and a slight pang of longing when I smelled a cigarette. No biggie, just didn't buy any more.
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On June 14 2010 00:38 Zealotdriver wrote:
I am downloading the client again right now. It is 14 gigabytes of slaying noobs and harvesting worthless electronic trinkets. Somebody stop me.
That's real big of you boss, must be a proud day for you and your family.
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I took adderall daily (and sometimes more than that) for about 5.5 years. Stopped taking that about a year ago. I was ready though.
I smoked weed for about 5 years as well. Every day. Quit 2 days ago, getting ready for the military. I would like to test my ability to quit and live happily without substances, I haven't been able to do it before in my life. I think I am ready to try that now.
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Definitely wow. Just such an awful game that should not be played by anyone with a 3 digit or higher IQ. It was really bad around late high school when I raided in classic. I raided like twice a week for 7+ hours for purpulleee itams. Later one i picked it up during WOTLK and just pvped and didn't play it too much. Actually the game is probably less bad than before and there's a lot more to do for people who only want to play for an hour or so at a time.
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Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there.
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On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Spoken like a true addict.
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Drugs. Hello anxiety and panic attacks. 
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On June 14 2010 01:30 Master Shaman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Spoken like a true addict.
If smothing pot once every 4-6 months is an addiction then I guess you caught me you stupid fuck. I haven't been to a dealer in 4 years.
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[x] other drug.
It's not a real drug, but I keep having these emotional relapses about my ex. It's gotten a lot better, I mean... it's been 6 fucking months, but I still think about her a whole lot and like twice a month I get these really intense feelings of sadness and stuff. I think it's some kind of addiction, since my brain tells me that I can't live without her, when I clearly have no trouble doing so.
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WoW was a horrible horrible habit to break. I remember quitting successfully for a few months, but always getting sucked back in by different friends. I almost downloaded it again a couple months ago, but thankfully I didn't have enough money to actually play it.
It has, however, made me like MMOs, so I have been playing Runes of Magic with my brother lately...the only upside is that it's free.
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oh my, you know wow is bad when you're comparing it to cocaine and heroine. good luck in getting away from that terrrible game.
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lol @ this thread
User was temp banned for this post.
User was warned for this post
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i played WoW day and night, for 6 months... Then i quit before WOTLK came out. Now i started again, but its totally different. I dont play half as much as the first time, its just another game beside others i will probably never join a good raiding guild again, but whatever... I was so bored with raids in BC anyways i never wanna do that again:S
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If smothing pot once every 4-6 months is an addiction then I guess you caught me you stupid fuck. I haven't been to a dealer in 4 years.
If you only smoked once every 4-6 months you myswell say "I don't smoke pot"  . That being said it should definitely be on the poll.
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You should involve gambling in that poll.
And yea i've played WoW and it was awesome, was i addicted? I don't know because one day my payment subscription ran out and i just never renewed it again. I felt no withdrawal effects or the urge to return after that.
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Yes, I should have included gambling. It is an addictive behavior that can ruin lives in a matter of minutes.
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Not from coffee, but I'm 100% physically addicted to caffeine. After 8-12 hours without it I get headaches and feel shitty in general.
And I smoke pot, but wouldn't say I'm addicted. I enjoy it a lot, but if I need to pass a drug test or don't have any money I have no issues going without it. I don't like it, but I don't start fiending for it either.
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Your type of story is really not that uncommon. While it's no substitute for rehab, many people share their stories on olganon and wow detox
I don't want to get into my own story. I won't use up the remainder of this page to talk about the causes of non-chemical addictions either. I'll just try to stop you from installing wow.
You obviously know that we can't reach in through our computer screens and close the download for you. The power to do this comes from yourself. You have to be able to control yourself. If you don't you'll just fall back into that cycle of yours, playing all day,
If you're like me, you're probably just skimming everything I'm writing and browsing something else, because you're jittery from wanting to play.
Don't skim, take some time to read. Now to quit an addiction, you obviously have to want to do it. You have to admit to yourself that you are addicted, and that you will not be able to help yourself if you install the game or get near it. Playing wow for a long time can only make your life worse, you must understand that, and so you have to stop your download right now. If you haven't already, get a friend to delete all your characters.
Another step to quitting your addiction is to know what it is, and to find its cause. Your addiction isn't chemical, your body has no chemical imbalance that would make you more susceptible to playing games for a long time (unless you are fatigued). It's simply a large number of neurons holding your fond memories of the game.
It's obvious that your memories were formed by playing the game, but for what reason? Well wow is simply something that demands your attention, therefore the memories formed are stronger. If you used the same attention you used in wow, for reading your ninth grade history book, I bet you'd be able to recite to me all of the dates of Napoleon's battles lol.
Ok so wow focuses your attention towards the game, and lets you escape from other things. Now I think it's commonly accepted amongst addicts, that computer addictions in general are formed by a fear (usually of not living up to one's expectations). So your addiction to wow is probably caused by a fear of not living up to your expectations. However, after you're done with wow, your expectations will still be there, and your work will have grown along with your fears, leading you to want to procrastinate again. This is the danger of the cycle.
So how do you quit the addiction? You can't, you'll have urges to play for the rest of your life. People heavily addicted to alcohol, who've stopped drinking, haven't quit their addiction, because if they ever drink again, they'll get addicted again. Your addiction will always be there just like theirs. Only they can get rid of all the alcohol in their house, you will always have access to a computer. You can try to focus on other things, and get your mind off wow whenever you think about it, this will decrease the frequency of the urges to play.
You've proven that you alone are not able to manage yourself near a game. So go somewhere where there can be people that will stop you from installing wow. Whew...that was a lot. Good luck!
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I´m Straight Edge (Dont take any drugs or anything like it) but Wow was pretty horribly timeconsuming at times.
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On June 14 2010 01:31 Wr3k wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 01:30 Master Shaman wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Spoken like a true addict. If smothing pot once every 4-6 months is an addiction then I guess you caught me you stupid fuck. I haven't been to a dealer in 4 years.
What is your problem? Relax, no one was insulting you
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I blame the social aspect of WoW. I wouldn't log onto WoW without being on vent along side it.
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I played WoW in high school religiously for 2 solid years and have been on off since then. Here is a picture of when I took a 5 month break:
![[image loading]](http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c134/PariahMagnus/thenandnow.png)
lost 70lbs since then
Now I just need to stop smoking ganja
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On June 14 2010 02:19 minus_human wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 01:31 Wr3k wrote:On June 14 2010 01:30 Master Shaman wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Spoken like a true addict. If smothing pot once every 4-6 months is an addiction then I guess you caught me you stupid fuck. I haven't been to a dealer in 4 years. What is your problem? Relax, no one was insulting you
Yeah that response was totally unnecessary.
On June 14 2010 02:23 LingKing wrote:I played WoW in high school religiously for 2 solid years and have been on off since then. Here is a picture of when I took a 5 month break: lost 70lbs since then Now I just need to stop smoking ganja
That's a 7 month break! Nice job though.
Don't hate on ganja. Why do you need to stop smoking it?
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On June 14 2010 02:26 Reason wrote:
Don't hate on ganja. Why do you need to stop smoking it?
Not good for my lungs, I bike and run a lot. Plus I'm going to be studying engineering in the fall and can't be an airhead
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I had also been playing wow for some years, but hey, i found the best solution to sell my account, got 400€ on eBay. Its a pity that a friend lent me his account and i started playing again, now im just bored with the game and don't play anymore, i have my subscription paid until November, but i guess i wont touch it again.
You don't leave wow, wow leaves you
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totally thought this was about new eminem album.
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i turned down a lot of university parties and just plain hanging out with university friends to play WoW with old high school friends.
now that i've quit wow, its like... i didnt make enough connections with UNI people and my old highschool buddies are doing their own thing and now im like...
FUCK WOW
lol
but w/e, whats done is done, cant complain. was fun sometimes lol
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How do you quit coffee? I've managed to quit WoW after a few years of playing, but I can't get rid of my coffee addiction. Every time I try to quit I get horrible headaches and I feel like shit. Plus it's so nice to have a cup of tasty coffee in the morning
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Maybe you could ween yourself down on how much caffine you take daily then cold turkey it and get ready for some shitty days. I haven't bothered trying myself so I don't know if any pain meds would help but I'm sure you can get twisted enough you don't mind .
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My worst gaming addiction is probably Ragnarok Online. I'm not playing right now, but I always go back . I legitimately enjoy WoE though so I guess it's not that bad.
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Zealotdriver,
I played wow for a couple of years on and off and left for good before WoTLK came out. It was rather lucky for me that the game got worse and worse as it made it easier for me to leave it.
I had some really good times in wow, and have some friends from game that I'm close with irl now, even though we don't play anymore. It was definitely a crutch for me when my life wasn't as directed as it is now, so I'm not sure if I can really blame it for my less happy times. It seems like more of an effect in my life than a cause. Now that I'm a happier person I don't have the urge, at all lol, to play. I do recognize though that while you're playing you're not being productive elsewhere so while it may be more a symptom it is very often a symptom that prevents you from resolving the cause.
So my advice is this:
1: Even if you finished downloading that shitty game, even if you started playing it, go delete it.
2: Work on your long term goals.
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On June 14 2010 02:51 roflpie wrote:How do you quit coffee? I've managed to quit WoW after a few years of playing, but I can't get rid of my coffee addiction. Every time I try to quit I get horrible headaches and I feel like shit. Plus it's so nice to have a cup of tasty coffee in the morning
Quitting coffee is easy for nerds like us. Create a ramp-down schedule in Excel or spreadsheet program of your choice.
EDIT: I actually started quitting when I was drinking coffee made from 300 mL of dry grounds all day long. I drank coffee from waking up until going to sleep. I was sleeping 10-12 hours a day and feeling bad all the time. I am almost done and now sleep 5-8 hours per night. It is great.
Here is my ramp schedule. Column A contains dates, column B contains volume of dry coffee grounds.
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/YFHAq.png)
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Or switch to hot cocoa. Same niche, much less caffeine.
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what if it's more then one of the above :p I could technically qualify for all of them except for WOW. I have control now, before I wasn't the best at "quitting" 
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1 pm wake up
1 - 2 wow
2 - 2:15 eat
2:20 - 8 wow
8 - 8:15 eat
8:15 - 7am wow
7am - 1pm sleep
repeat for 7 days
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WoW, I'm still playing thou, but it's about 2-8 hours a week. Mostly use it to have some fun with people I've met over the last 5 years, I must say the game has become very low time investment for still beeing competative in pve or pvp, so there is little need even to commit alot of time to it. Quit the game for about a year thou, finally faced my addiction. I'm still not too happy that I have some dependancy to play it, but I know when I'm going too far nowadays, so I guess it was a worthy life-lesson. Filled alot of the void with working out - studying more and eating healthy, it was an insane leap of sudden free time you get when you quit something like wow.
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I thought this was going to be a thread about Eminem's new album.
I think the only thing i've been emotionally and psychologically attached to is basically the internet. It's really sad but i dont think i could go a week without checking last.fm, trackers, or slickdeals.
I never saw the draw from weed or alcohol even though i was often surrounded by it.
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I've been a little nerd my whole life, so I've never had trouble with drugs. But World of Warcraft was indeed my nerd-drug for the longest time. It would be freshman year of high school and I would play until midnight before even starting any of my work. And I definitely can't forget my 8 hour straight sessions everyday during the summer. I devoted literally months and months of time to that game.
I quit once before Burning Crusade, and thankfully when I came back I really didn't like the game anymore. Besides fighting in the Arena every now and then, I had so little to do in game. WoW is designed to be a massive time sink, but it's really not worth playing anymore. You'll follow the pattern of arena-raid-nothing. And guess what, soon all those level 80 dungeons will be useless once Cataclysm rolls around.
I get what you mean, desiring to come back and smack around some noobs. (I'll be honest, I was a heavy ganker in WoW. Stranglethorn Vale is such a fun place to get revenge on all those gankers I dealt with as a lowlevel :D ) And being in college, I could actually raid and such whenever I choose. But it's such a boring pattern, a waste of money, a waste of time. If you're really craving to go back, I suggest take the 10 day free trial and level up some character to 30. It got the desire to play WoW out of my system surprisingly well. The trial is incredibly restrictive so you might just get sick of it then and there Just don't return to WoW for real. Incredibly not worth it.
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Should add oxycodone/hydrocodone to the poll; after two knee surgeries I had a lot of problems getting off that stuff. Would take up 70mg over a few hours sometimes God it was so good.
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I wouldn't really compare hardcore drugs with games and coffee...
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What people are forgetting is that WoW is an incredibly cheap addiction to sustain. We need to do stuff to be happy and once you've run out of TV-shows & movies to watch - you're gonna have to find something to do. Back in high school and the first year or so of Uni i used to party a lot, would spend all my money on maximizing the weekend nights. When you're drunk and intoxicated in the company of beautiful people and you feel a need to belong, you're going to spend money, lots of money; at least i did.
In the end, partying kind of sucks though. It's seriously quite a fruitless enterprise unless you're in it *to meet the one* or have some deeper motive. Most people i used to party with are now actually involved with clubbing as their profession. They're DJ:s, bartenders or even club owners, but those who still just party for the sake of partying are all a bunch of rich kids with no real drive or purpose other than to be happy. I don't blame them, but their existence is undeniably empty, void of real commitment.
When i left the party/clubbing scene i really didn't have a lot to do or even talk about with my old friends, i could no longer sit with them at some cafe or someones apartment and exchange memories from the weekend - i hadn't even been there. WoW became an excellent "addiction" to replace partying while i figured out who and what i wanted to be (not professionally), it also gave me a much needed challenge with coursework at Uni.
Before, i would have nothing to do at weeknights so i would just watch every bad TV show there was, try desperately to find some movie where i didn't remember every plot twist and read forums online while just randomly browsing the web - and when there was NOTHING left to do, i would actually sit down and study. With WoW, things changed. With a 7-12 raid schedule i basically had 0 time left to study and write papers except for an hour or so after the raid. This might seem bad, but it was actually awesome! It made me listen a lot better at lectures and even occasionally take notes. It became sort of a prestige hunt for me to ace my courses while being able to keep up a full raid schedule - the challenge i had always needed.
In the end, replacing partying with WoW has saved me in excess at least $10k and i'm absolutely not a wealthy guy like my friends were, my parents economy is quite stretched and there's no "free" job for me, i've just worked extra and summers so having some money is awesome. The obvious thought here would be "so why doesn't he play Poker?", well - at least that was my obvious thought, a few of my former friends made their money from poker, but that was honestly what deterred me. Those guys who lived off Poker with no education seemed to me to live the emptiest lives of all and pretty much all of them were addicted to gambling whether they'd admit to it or not. I don't think my character is strong enough to get my MD if i'm financially independent through Poker. Athletes like football or even Broodwar players are at least entertainers, they have a defined role in society, where as a Poker player is what? Really skilled at a game? Sure, but why that game? Aren't there better games? It has to be about the money, not a passion for the game or you'd choose some other.
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On June 14 2010 03:13 Zealotdriver wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 02:51 roflpie wrote:How do you quit coffee? I've managed to quit WoW after a few years of playing, but I can't get rid of my coffee addiction. Every time I try to quit I get horrible headaches and I feel like shit. Plus it's so nice to have a cup of tasty coffee in the morning
I tried this for my computer addiction. I didn't fill it in every day though, and relied more heavily on software to do it for me.
How's it going OP, if you don't reply back, we'll assume you're raiding.
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Correct me if I'm wrong , but isn't coffe addiction completely innoffensive? I mean, what harm could cause 2 cups of coffee a day?
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I'm not addicted to anything that I can think of. Just stopped play BW when I got bored after SC2 came out. Probably not going to play SC2 that much..
Maybe my life's just dull haha
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WoW was my kryptonite for a few years, my grades proggresively dropping was a clear indicator. That, and i was emotionally devastated when my account got ninja'd by some tosser, looking back on it... what a loser i was. I now happily look down on wow players and am content with DotA and starcraft.
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Why not just pick up a new game? More fun, less addiction. WoW is shit.
Some of the more "classic" mmos out there have strong veteran communities, mature and friendly people.
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Eve online
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Starcraft BW
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kicks WoW in the balls
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I actualy had/have all of these nasty habits except the coffee...
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On June 14 2010 02:51 roflpie wrote:How do you quit coffee? I've managed to quit WoW after a few years of playing, but I can't get rid of my coffee addiction. Every time I try to quit I get horrible headaches and I feel like shit. Plus it's so nice to have a cup of tasty coffee in the morning
They go away after a week or a few days. Best thing to do is just stop drinking it.
Cigarettes were a hard one for me to break but I feel so much healthier and I barely even work out.
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How about internet generally or if you want it more precise: TL...
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in terms of video games i think d2 was a big one, and when i was playing i literally thought that i'd never quit the game. i was a WoW player and did play a lot of hours but i wasn't addicted to it, nor was it addicting like d2 was. i am now WoW free for about 4 months now and i can say that i probably won't be paying for that shitty game ever again. the only reason why i played for so long was for the people that you talk to / play with / fuck around with. but outside of video games i think masturbation is my addiction. the most i've done it in a day was 12 times (yes i counted) and i miss out on my cousins birthday parties (lol sup mexican with a lot of little cousins) and not only that i don't see my whole family all the much anymore since i moved out of my grandparents and moved in with my mom (raised by grandparents). if i'm alone at home i always always ALWAYS masturbate, it's constantly in my head, i'm usually always think about it, i get aroused extremely easily. i masturbate to the point where i don't do it for pleasure, but i do it just to get rid of the feeling to need to masturbate, and once won't cut it EVER. i do it about 3-6 times in about 45 minutes. there was a time where i was gonna stop for about 1 week and i gave in and did it about 8 times -_-. i can be addicted to worse things and thankfully i'm not, this addiction is just very annoying
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WoW was also my worst addiction. I finally was able to quit after I realized all the challenge of the game had been removed. There is ZERO solo content at max level. Dungeons you can do with your eyes closed. Battlegrounds and Arena are fun, but in order to compete you need to get better gear which you earn by competing. Raiding is fun until you encounter one of the following: guild politics, loot drama, people raging over vent, sacrificing irl because of raiding schedule, not being able to kill a boss for weeks because people stand in fire, or having all the gear you worked and sacrificed for turn crappy when a new patch comes out.
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On June 14 2010 02:19 minus_human wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 01:31 Wr3k wrote:On June 14 2010 01:30 Master Shaman wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Spoken like a true addict. If smothing pot once every 4-6 months is an addiction then I guess you caught me you stupid fuck. I haven't been to a dealer in 4 years. What is your problem? Relax, no one was insulting you
It's just possibly the most infuriating type of response that you can make in a thread about addiction. Why don't we just all accuse each other of being addicted to various things instead of encouraging people to open up and discuss? It was an ignorant and rude comment and I felt like he needed to be put in his place and that is the end of it.
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Put teamliquid and SC on the list. I think I may be addicted to sc.. T_T
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On June 14 2010 07:21 larjarse wrote:
Put teamliquid and SC on the list. I think I may be addicted to sc.. T_T
Agreed lol, it was definitely a little withdrawal-like trying to find stuff to do for the first couple days after beta went down.
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On June 14 2010 07:19 Wr3k wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 02:19 minus_human wrote:On June 14 2010 01:31 Wr3k wrote:On June 14 2010 01:30 Master Shaman wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Spoken like a true addict. If smothing pot once every 4-6 months is an addiction then I guess you caught me you stupid fuck. I haven't been to a dealer in 4 years. What is your problem? Relax, no one was insulting you It's just possibly the most infuriating type of response that you can make in a thread about addiction. Why don't we just all accuse each other of being addicted to various things instead of encouraging people to open up and discuss? It was an ignorant and rude comment and I felt like he needed to be put in his place and that is the end of it.
I agree with you Wr3k, out of all the warnings / temp bans I've seen, his comment definitely deserved at least a warning.
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Eve-online can also be pretty terrible. Ugh at me checking 24/7 my skill progress and waking up at odd hours to set next skill (not necessary after that patch but still).
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Dextromethorphan.
Get dat tussin.
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On June 14 2010 06:06 Corrupt wrote:
I actualy had/have all of these nasty habits except the coffee...
Me too, but include coffee. Alcohol was by far the worst, I hit an all time low when I had to be brought to the hospital, put on crazy meds, and was forced to stop drinking for a long time. I occasionally drink now, but it's nothing like it was. My liver shut down after only a 2 1/2 month binge. While there are lots of people who have gone a lot longer, mine really kicked my ass.
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I was addicted to meth for about a year during my senior year of high school, and was doing cocaine for about a year before that. I quit doing all the really dangerous crap, except maybe tobacco (I'm a pretty light smoker, maybe a pack a week)
I still smoke pot though, and I'm trying to stop it. I was on a roll for about 8 months this year where I only smoked pot and did nothing else, and I lost 40 pounds. I guess I substituted exercise for drugs which wasn't bad.
Drugs are wayyyyy too easy to get especially if you live right smack in the middle of Los Angeles, and the temptation is always there. I guess I gotta be stronger and resist those urges. All this drug talk makes me want to light up a spliff, I think I'm gonna go do some push ups
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if you have an addiction; do sports and excerice,
worst drug in the world is cigarets, hands down :O
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On June 14 2010 03:05 mint_julep wrote:
Zealotdriver,
I played wow for a couple of years on and off and left for good before WoTLK came out. It was rather lucky for me that the game got worse and worse as it made it easier for me to leave it.
I had some really good times in wow, and have some friends from game that I'm close with irl now, even though we don't play anymore. It was definitely a crutch for me when my life wasn't as directed as it is now, so I'm not sure if I can really blame it for my less happy times. It seems like more of an effect in my life than a cause. Now that I'm a happier person I don't have the urge, at all lol, to play. I do recognize though that while you're playing you're not being productive elsewhere so while it may be more a symptom it is very often a symptom that prevents you from resolving the cause.
So my advice is this:
1: Even if you finished downloading that shitty game, even if you started playing it, go delete it.
2: Work on your long term goals.
I'm with you on this one. I was addicted to wow for a year or so during high school int he Burning Crusade expansion, i would literally get home from school at 5pm, go straight on wow until about 3 in the morning, rinse repeat. And also all day on weekends too. I realized at one point, when i was asked by a guy from one of the top10 guilds in the world at the time, if i wanted to join them, he came on my server with an alt ect, i was really exited. Anyways i was half way through their application process ect and i thought "what the fuck am i doing this for?" I hated my guild they were pretty much all pricks, and i spent so much time on it, got terrible grades which affected my university place, and what for? Basically for the adrenaline rush, the good feeling of teamwork, and the feeling of actually being good at something, and others admiring your talent. I think a girl from one of the TED talks put it perfectly as to why WoW is just so addictive. It's because it's almost a perfect form of work, it's got a good balance between physical skill and hard work, and the whole system is so much better than a real job, you get instant feedback on what your doing wrong, and you get perfectly rewarded for what you do, if you complete a quest you get the exact reward you deserve, if you kill a boss, you get (well eventually) the item you wanted to show off and better your character. While in life you can often try hard, do something amazing, maybe in your work place or at school, but no one notices, or because of work/school politics you don't get duely rewarded. There is no frustration with not getting the reward from your hard work in wow, which i think is why it's so addictive, so rarely in life do you get rewarded at all, or relative to what you did when you work hard. Life in general is random, and working hard doesn't mean your life is going to go as planned and that you will get your reward at the end, life isn't fair, wow is.
I stupidly, like you, went back to wow recently in the wotlk, started to raid again, but found that the game had got much easier, and the scripted encounters weren't as hard or as fun and challenging, so i quit. And i can't tell you how glad i am that wow has got worse and isn't the same anymore, because i think i would of gone on another self destructive mission during university, playing wow even more than i did at school, probably skipping lectures and ending up with no social life. Personally i find i want to go back to wow when im bored, it feels like the only game with enough content to keep a hardcore gamer like me satisfied, so what i would say to you is to do 2 things, fill the boredom that you think wow will fill, because wow wont just fill the boredom, it will spill right over into everything else, and secondly think about where you will be 6 months from now if you play it, what state you will be in, raiding until early hours of the morning, no social life and harming your work life too. That's not what you want, its not worth it. Personally deleting characters doesn't really work as i can get a character from 1-80 pretty fast anyways, and it usually means the gearing up of 1-2 months just adds to the overall time it takes me to get bored of high level raiding again, but if it works for you go for it, delete your account if u can.
If you really can't stop yourself, despite deleting characters, i would say the best solution would be to get yourself banned from the game. That way you cannot return and if you do something bad enough you won't be allowed to register an account in the same name/credit card/email ect. although it might effect your Bnet account i dunno depends on if u use the same email/they are linked.
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worst habit was probably doing nothing but play counterstrike when I was 14 years old
I played wow for a little time but was never addicted to it, dont get why people wanna play that game so much
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nvr had any
yayyy
alcohol should be up there
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Yeah I like how weed isnt on there, but cocaine is haha.
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On June 14 2010 08:22 uiCk wrote:
if you have an addiction; do sports and excerice,
worst drug in the world is cigarets, hands down :O
obviously you've never met a heroine addict before.
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starcraft is by far the worst addiction i have ever had
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On June 14 2010 08:37 7mk wrote:
worst habit was probably doing nothing but play counterstrike when I was 14 years old
I played wow for a little time but was never addicted to it, dont get why people wanna play that game so much
It hooks you in man, when I first saw it I was like... wow this shit looks fucking boring. Then I played it for 2 hours and was hooked, after 5 years of playing it on and off I finally got sick of it. It's definitely the most addictive thing I have ever tried. (Not sure that says much because I've never smoked cigs, done meth, cocaine, heroin, or any other hard drugs so maybe its not THAT addictive).
One thing is for sure, I will never touch an MMO again.
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On June 14 2010 07:19 Wr3k wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 02:19 minus_human wrote:On June 14 2010 01:31 Wr3k wrote:On June 14 2010 01:30 Master Shaman wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Spoken like a true addict. If smothing pot once every 4-6 months is an addiction then I guess you caught me you stupid fuck. I haven't been to a dealer in 4 years. What is your problem? Relax, no one was insulting you It's just possibly the most infuriating type of response that you can make in a thread about addiction. Why don't we just all accuse each other of being addicted to various things instead of encouraging people to open up and discuss? It was an ignorant and rude comment and I felt like he needed to be put in his place and that is the end of it.
If anything it was a fucking joke. Seriously wow....
I've smoked pot nearly every day since I was 14 and I'm 21 now...
You've smoked it what like once every 4-6 months and you fucking freak out?
If he said that to me I'd say "lol"... it was funny man 
Absolutely no reason to call him a stupid fuck, let alone get so angry/defensive about it.
On June 14 2010 05:58 Minzy wrote:
what a loser i was. I now happily look down on wow players and am content with DotA and starcraft.
lololol
what a junkie i was. I now happily look down on heroin addicts and am content with crack and meth.
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On June 14 2010 09:27 Miss_Cleo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 08:22 uiCk wrote:
if you have an addiction; do sports and excerice,
worst drug in the world is cigarets, hands down :O obviously you've never met a heroine addict before.
Heroin*
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Cannabis and Starcraft are excluded from the poll because they have too many tangible benefits while lacking the destructive aspects of the other addictive items.
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I played WoW during BC quite a few hours a day, for about a couple months. It was my brother's account and he was rarely home, so he didn't mind me hopping on. Because I never hit the level cap and just tried to explore, meet fun people and engage in low level PvP, I found it very enjoyable playing rather casually, unlike other games where you grind to get better gear to grind more. I definitely felt it was fun, and played for the sake of playing - this was unheard of in other MMOs I have/had played since, where you play for the sake of keeping up/grinding shit, and who knows when the fun starts. Perhaps it's for the better that I never got into it hardcore.
I'm pretty much addicted to internet, though. I feel like I have to be online at least once a day, even though all I'm doing is wasting time
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wowdetox.com helps.
On the other hand, I've lately gotten addicted to LoL....
What is up with us gamers? Do we just have some kind of genetic thing that causes us to get addicted (I know this sounds absurd, but sometimes I feel like my genes are wired differently than my sister's, who rarely gets addicted to anything.)
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i don't get WoW "addicts"
i played that game for 4 years, played it comfortably, helped lead a top ranked guild, and quit last summer because it has become to casual.
there is no addiction, it's just a damn good time. if you're ignoring friends and failing classes, you have much deeper problems than a computer game.
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On June 14 2010 12:04 Twilexia wrote:
wowdetox.com helps.
On the other hand, I've lately gotten addicted to LoL....
What is up with us gamers? Do we just have some kind of genetic thing that causes us to get addicted (I know this sounds absurd, but sometimes I feel like my genes are wired differently than my sister's, who rarely gets addicted to anything.)
Addictions are really common to people of all wakes of life. Alcohol, cigarettes, drugs happens to all classes of people. As for games, if it isn't games as it is for many people here, it's TV, Facebook/Myspace or other similar internet/media kinds of activities.
Me I used to be addicted to a game called Knight Online many years back in highschool. Played it every waking hour that I wasn't at school. Went from being a top of the class student to getting an Bs or even Ds for almost every subject one semester. That hit me hard and was enough to make me get over the addiction.
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On June 14 2010 09:30 Cube wrote:
starcraft is by far the worst addiction i have ever had
Yeah either this or D2 when I was like 14.
Also I guess you could call my marijawana usage an addiction, but I can totally stop whenever I want. No really. It's cool though, I don't want to stop.
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On June 14 2010 09:30 Cube wrote:
starcraft is by far the worst addiction i have ever had
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Why isn't pornography on here? I'd guess it's the #1 addiction in the world right now.
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On June 14 2010 12:06 eMbrace wrote:
i don't get WoW "addicts"
i played that game for 4 years, played it comfortably, helped lead a top ranked guild, and quit last summer because it has become to casual.
there is no addiction, it's just a damn good time. if you're ignoring friends and failing classes, you have much deeper problems than a computer game.
so you are saying that falling behind in classes and ignoring friends has nothing to do with being addicted to a computer game? LOL
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I don't have a problem.
Really, I swear.
:s
/voted coffee.
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i got addicted to Runescape but i quit cuz there was no society anymore.
SC and TL are like the greatest addictions ever.
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WoW is seriously bad. When you play it it's all you think about.
Oh and this:
On June 14 2010 02:38 CultureMisfits wrote:
Where is StarCraft?
I am currently addicted to BW. Not nearly as bad as a WoW addiction though.
Also, I wish I was high...
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sup zealotdriver my brother from another mother
i voted tobacco, tobacco was by far the worst addiction i've ever had
i quit cold turkey because i knew in my mind i was ready to quit
i've tried to have a cigarette like a "cool drunk" but i can't do it, it's too fucking disgusting :D
also, zealotdriver, you must stop DLing w0w if you already have it, and come and see me again
i miss you bro
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On June 14 2010 12:55 0neder wrote:
Why isn't pornography on here? I'd guess it's the #1 addiction in the world right now.
I don't think porn is an addiction, necessarily. Why? There's an end. Your body simply won't let you watch porn endlessly. On the other hand... when you're playing a game, you ignore your body's desires.....
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I've been fighting my WoW addiction for the past couple of months, for some odd reason. It's such a horrible game now to, I honestly don't know why I want to play so much. I started downloading the client last week, and stopped before I hit 10% XD. It's not worth it, trust me, you pretty much summarized the game completely. Good luck.
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i quit wow 2 years back, i played for about 3 years and became very addicted after 1 year of playing.
things about me when i was most addicted:
*the game intoxicated me at it's peak, though not too much.
*i had little short term memory and thus could not learn anything at school because i could not focus on anything. My brain was only half-functioning.
*i lost weight, from 65kg down to about 55kg.
*pale skin hehe, but that's of course because i didn't get vitamin D.
coming off from addiction
1-5 daysish: i got really really agitated, figity, psychotic basically it's like i'm starving to death and i need WoW to replenish my fuel.
1week-10weeks: boredom and depression(maybe? dunno if its depression). It didn't get any easier here. I gained my weight back and a normal mindset back in these days. Went from bottom of class to top of class in grades within a week after quiting, but still extremely bored and it didn't seem worth it.
10weeks+: i was on the home straight here, like 1-10 weeks except not as much.
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Addicted to drinking water. If I do not drink water daily, my mouth starts toi get dry and I get thirsty
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There was a period of time where i speedballed with meth+heroin a ton and got pretty dependent on it... it's scary to wake up in the morning and realize you need a fix to keep going.
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nothing else came close to d2 lod for me
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On June 14 2010 12:06 eMbrace wrote:
i don't get WoW "addicts"
i played that game for 4 years, played it comfortably, helped lead a top ranked guild, and quit last summer because it has become to casual.
there is no addiction, it's just a damn good time. if you're ignoring friends and failing classes, you have much deeper problems than a computer game.
I'm sorry but there is no way you lead a top guild and it didn't effect your social life and grades, either that or you had no social life or were unemployed. Being in a top level guild requires raiding at least 5 nights a week for at least 5 hours, you cannot fit that into a normal life when you consider all the grinding for mats and side quests you needed to do on top of that, it's just not possible. The only way i can believe you is if your saying that your guild was top ranked on your server, which had shit progress, which would make sense.
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I have missed school (pretended to be sick) in order to play random video games, mainly counter-strike.
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I have been raiding hardcore in vanilla wow (like 6 nights, 4-5 hours each night a week). Then i met my gf and lost intrest in the game in like 3 days, so weird. Glad it happend tho because otherwise i would have still been playing i gues.
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I used to think I was addicted to games but in the last few years I've realised I'm just addicted to wasting time in general. Even when I'm not gaming I have a knack for finding useless non-productive shit to do, like watching TV series or surfing the web or even reading books. It's like my brain is automatically drawn to everything that won't make me a better person in any way and I have to constantly fight against it.
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On June 14 2010 19:46 Wargizmo wrote:
I used to think I was addicted to games but in the last few years I've realised I'm just addicted to wasting time in general. Even when I'm not gaming I have a knack for finding useless non-productive shit to do, like watching TV series or surfing the web or even reading books. It's like my brain is automatically drawn to everything that won't make me a better person in any way and I have to constantly fight against it.
I know that all too well. Sadly I think its part of being human.
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On June 14 2010 13:55 Twilexia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 12:55 0neder wrote:
Why isn't pornography on here? I'd guess it's the #1 addiction in the world right now. I don't think porn is an addiction, necessarily. Why? There's an end. Your body simply won't let you watch porn endlessly. On the other hand... when you're playing a game, you ignore your body's desires.....
There is such a thing as porn addiction. Search the web, various documentaries have been made on it. And it's a rapidly growing phenomenon. Also, addicts don't necessarily watch it just as material to jerk. In such cases your body will let you watch porn 'endlessly' the way games would.
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On June 14 2010 19:05 UdderChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 12:06 eMbrace wrote:
i don't get WoW "addicts"
i played that game for 4 years, played it comfortably, helped lead a top ranked guild, and quit last summer because it has become to casual.
there is no addiction, it's just a damn good time. if you're ignoring friends and failing classes, you have much deeper problems than a computer game. I'm sorry but there is no way you lead a top guild and it didn't effect your social life and grades, either that or you had no social life or were unemployed. Being in a top level guild requires raiding at least 5 nights a week for at least 5 hours, you cannot fit that into a normal life when you consider all the grinding for mats and side quests you needed to do on top of that, it's just not possible. The only way i can believe you is if your saying that your guild was top ranked on your server, which had shit progress, which would make sense.
Blizzard has made the game so easy it takes 3 hours a week to clear the latest endgame raid instance on hardmode. When new content comes out these top guilds spend the first week after patch raiding every night which shouldn't wreck your social life too much. I mean you probably can get sick or something for a week and you'll still have friends after you get better.
I'm really addicted to this game though
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On June 14 2010 20:23 BadBinky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 19:05 UdderChaos wrote:On June 14 2010 12:06 eMbrace wrote:
i don't get WoW "addicts"
i played that game for 4 years, played it comfortably, helped lead a top ranked guild, and quit last summer because it has become to casual.
there is no addiction, it's just a damn good time. if you're ignoring friends and failing classes, you have much deeper problems than a computer game. I'm sorry but there is no way you lead a top guild and it didn't effect your social life and grades, either that or you had no social life or were unemployed. Being in a top level guild requires raiding at least 5 nights a week for at least 5 hours, you cannot fit that into a normal life when you consider all the grinding for mats and side quests you needed to do on top of that, it's just not possible. The only way i can believe you is if your saying that your guild was top ranked on your server, which had shit progress, which would make sense. Blizzard has made the game so easy it takes 3 hours a week to clear the latest endgame raid instance on hardmode. When new content comes out these top guilds spend the first week after patch raiding every night which shouldn't wreck your social life too much. I mean you probably can get sick or something for a week and you'll still have friends after you get better. I'm really addicted to this game though
Yeah i know it's a a lot easier but he said he's been playing it for 4 years, if he means a top guild in wotlk i guess that makes sense
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On June 14 2010 01:26 Drowsy wrote:
Definitely wow. Just such an awful game that should not be played by anyone with a 3 digit or higher IQ. It was really bad around late high school when I raided in classic. I raided like twice a week for 7+ hours for purpulleee itams. Later one i picked it up during WOTLK and just pvped and didn't play it too much. Actually the game is probably less bad than before and there's a lot more to do for people who only want to play for an hour or so at a time.
You're saying someone could have higher than 3 digits in their IQ? You sure your IQ has three digits?
Don't take that too personally, brother-man... I'm just joshin
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I did it guys.
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On June 14 2010 19:05 UdderChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 12:06 eMbrace wrote:
i don't get WoW "addicts"
i played that game for 4 years, played it comfortably, helped lead a top ranked guild, and quit last summer because it has become to casual.
there is no addiction, it's just a damn good time. if you're ignoring friends and failing classes, you have much deeper problems than a computer game. I'm sorry but there is no way you lead a top guild and it didn't effect your social life and grades, either that or you had no social life or were unemployed. Being in a top level guild requires raiding at least 5 nights a week for at least 5 hours, you cannot fit that into a normal life when you consider all the grinding for mats and side quests you needed to do on top of that, it's just not possible. The only way i can believe you is if your saying that your guild was top ranked on your server, which had shit progress, which would make sense.
I agree. I was on (A Team) pre-BC. We were in the Top 10 US guilds, and we had a minimum of 30 hours a week devoted to raiding just to stay anywhere near the top. I hear the game has changed a lot, but there's no way a guild who plays 3 hours a week can be as good as one that raids 30+. If anything, they're just more experienced than you.
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Too much weed, I've got the money for it since I'm a college student..It's just fun, I sit at the student union all summer (there's like 20 students here for summer classes and I work full time hours). I get paid all summer to smoke pot and learn guitar. Could be worse. Been working on my game on women though too, it's great to study things you're interested in blazed.
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On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there.
Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years.
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On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years.
Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though.
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I have never understood the addictive nature of WoW. For me, the game is rather dry and repetitive, using the same old spells/actions over and over again on different creatures gets boring real fast. BG and arena are fun the first 10 times, and overall I just feel the low skill cap in WoW really takes away from any possible addictive nature.
BW, on the other hand, there is the constant drive that pushes you to get faster, stronger, better. Every time I lose, I know exactly what I did wrong. Next game I try to correct that error. I fail. Of course I do not give up, but I practice more until my weakness becomes a strength. And when I do, I start winning more games, giving myself an immense amount of satisfaction. And because the skill cap is so high, this cycle of continuous improvement goes on forever. No game has held my interest longer than BW (other than perhaps chess), because of the impossibly high skill ceiling and the constant drive to improve.
On June 15 2010 01:03 Zealotdriver wrote:I did it guys.
Next time you decide to quit, and assuredly, that day will come, give away your account or get yourself permanently banned. You need to completely sever yourself from the connection to the game. Unfortunately, whenever you first begin to give up an addiction, a massive hole always appears in your gut. At least for me, when I first gave up playing BW for 4 hours a day, something was always "missing." I found that for me, one of the most effective things to fill that gap was exercising, playing sports, and working out. When I work out or play basketball, I get that same satisfactory feeling I get from video games. So I advise you pick out a physical hobby the next time you try to quit.
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Reading forums. Some years ago I read 10-12 different kinds of forums everyday, for hours on and on, searching for old threads with +100 pages and going through all of them. Even today I can still quote some of the posts I've read several years ago.
I easily get addicted to games like Risen or Morrowind. However, that only lasts for about one or two weeks. WoW, EvE or a generic Asia-grinder would definitely make a huge negative impact on my life, so I try to stay away from it.
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I'm an addict in recovery and I've been clean for almost 15 months now. I'm 21 and I've been to ~5 treatment centers over the course of my life. I started out drinking/smoking pot and eventually graduated from them to Xanax/Valium/Various other benzodiapines, and started smoking fentanyl.
That shit sucks you up quick, and at a certain points there's pretty much nothing you can do about it. My suggestion to anyone trying to quit any kind of addiction is COMPLETE ABSTINENCE from your addiction. None of this trying to slowly wean your way off of your addiction slowly, it simply doesn't work.
Kicking my various addictions required an admission of defeat, for me it was that I could never use drugs succesfully, nomatter what. I would suggest the same admission of defeat for anyone trying to quit any addiction. Trying the same thing over and over again (trying to moderate an addiciton) and expecting different results is simply insanity.
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On June 14 2010 09:40 Wr3k wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 08:37 7mk wrote:
worst habit was probably doing nothing but play counterstrike when I was 14 years old
I played wow for a little time but was never addicted to it, dont get why people wanna play that game so much It hooks you in man, when I first saw it I was like... wow this shit looks fucking boring. Then I played it for 2 hours and was hooked, after 5 years of playing it on and off I finally got sick of it. It's definitely the most addictive thing I have ever tried. (Not sure that says much because I've never smoked cigs, done meth, cocaine, heroin, or any other hard drugs so maybe its not THAT addictive). One thing is for sure, I will never touch an MMO again.
Mh I still dont get it.
I played wow for way more than 2 hours. was at least 2 months.
But at no point did I feel like I couldnt stop or desparately needed to continue or anything.
The only thing I really enjoyed were those massive battles on that big icy pvp map, those could be really fun.
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I spend ~8 hours a day reading and watching documentaries and other crap. I do this, but I don't do my homework (on time or well done). I'm addicted to learning stuff that the system doesn't find useful for a grade.
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On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though.
im not trying to inspire fear. It is addictive long term though, just not short term. And compared to quitting nicotine it would be like quitting chewing gum.
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Its between soda and games i dont know what is worse.
I have never done illgal drugs but i have sniffed sharpies and done a few to many doses of pain pills.
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when you dont smoke pot there is no physical abstinence as strong when you stop smoking..
say what you will but your urge to smoke pot is the same as your urge to eat a certain kind of meal, while smoking for smokers is like quitting masturbation..
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-other-
I'm taking like ~50 MG of Amphetamines a day (speed) illegally. Roughly double normal perscribed dosage. Sometimes I'll take upwards to 100+ at once.
Gotta stop . Shits gonna kill me. And the crashes are gawdaweful.
Don't get WoW addicts though. For me, it was really easy to quit once it was getting out of proportion, and not only do I not relapse, I find it harder to start playing again. I mean, I'd have to work my self up from the bottom again.
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On June 15 2010 07:34 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 09:40 Wr3k wrote:On June 14 2010 08:37 7mk wrote:
worst habit was probably doing nothing but play counterstrike when I was 14 years old
I played wow for a little time but was never addicted to it, dont get why people wanna play that game so much It hooks you in man, when I first saw it I was like... wow this shit looks fucking boring. Then I played it for 2 hours and was hooked, after 5 years of playing it on and off I finally got sick of it. It's definitely the most addictive thing I have ever tried. (Not sure that says much because I've never smoked cigs, done meth, cocaine, heroin, or any other hard drugs so maybe its not THAT addictive). One thing is for sure, I will never touch an MMO again. Mh I still dont get it. I played wow for way more than 2 hours. was at least 2 months. But at no point did I feel like I couldnt stop or desparately needed to continue or anything. The only thing I really enjoyed were those massive battles on that big icy pvp map, those could be really fun.
Some people just get addicted to certain things, there are millions of people who can play WoW just a few hours a week and not feel the constant need to keep playing, you're not alone by any means.
It all comes down to the personality of the person playing. If you're someone who likes to finish something once you start it, and has trouble letting go of something you already put a lot of time into, then you're going to struggle with WoW because once you've invested time in a character it's very difficult to just put all that work aside even if the game stopped being 'fun' and logically there's little reason to keep playing.
I found quitting WoW harder than most games for this reason, I would never say I was addicted though, having known and lived with someone who was a gambling addict I can tell you that real addiction is a lot worse than what people call 'addiction' when speaking about WoW.
I think the worst thing about WoW is that once you quit you have nothing to show for the time you put in. I mean every hour I put into WC3 and Starcraft has given me skills which have translated to SC2 and will carry over to any RTS I ever pick up and play, which is a great thing and I don't regret any of the time I put in.
However 50 days played in WoW gave me almost nothing, the $300 I got for selling my account on EBay was a joke considering the work I had put into that game.
Like many people have said in this thread already, WoW is the first and last MMORPG I will ever play.
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On June 14 2010 02:30 LingKing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 02:26 Reason wrote:
Don't hate on ganja. Why do you need to stop smoking it? Not good for my lungs, I bike and run a lot. Plus I'm going to be studying engineering in the fall and can't be an airhead
Please dont be so ignorant. Many athletes including the number one swimmer of all time smoke pot. Pot also doesnt affect your ability to do well in school.
Having said that, the only addiction I have ever had trouble with was pot. I have quit a couple times before, but I always relapse. Pot is just so much fun. The only reason I want to stop is because of anxiety. I have been smoking for 11+ years. 8 years everyday, except for the periods where I had quit.
I guess I was mildly addicted to cocaine for a year or so, but i found it fairly easy to stop when I really wanted to stop, so maybe I wasnt actually addicted. I think I just did it so much because it was pretty much free for me.
I was also addicted to bw really really badly when I was in high school, but after 3 or so years of mass gaming I got bored.
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Congrats OP! The TL community is very proud of you!
We all know (many of us from first-hand experience) how addicting particular video games can be, and so we understand how difficult it was for you. Congratulations again!
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On June 15 2010 08:11 Zoltan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though. im not trying to inspire fear. It is addictive long term though, just not short term. And compared to quitting nicotine it would be like quitting chewing gum.
I have smoked pot for two years in a row, there hasn't been a day that's gone by where I haven't been high at least twice a day.
I quit last week.
Easiest thing ever, I tried quitting soda once, felt like I was dying the next day.
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On June 15 2010 10:47 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 08:11 Zoltan wrote:On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though. im not trying to inspire fear. It is addictive long term though, just not short term. And compared to quitting nicotine it would be like quitting chewing gum. I have smoked pot for two years in a row, there hasn't been a day that's gone by where I haven't been high at least twice a day. I quit last week. Easiest thing ever, I tried quitting soda once, felt like I was dying the next day.
You "quit" for a week. Come back next year and tell us how you have never touched a blunt in that period of time.
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On June 15 2010 11:08 Cloud wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 10:47 PanN wrote:On June 15 2010 08:11 Zoltan wrote:On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though. im not trying to inspire fear. It is addictive long term though, just not short term. And compared to quitting nicotine it would be like quitting chewing gum. I have smoked pot for two years in a row, there hasn't been a day that's gone by where I haven't been high at least twice a day. I quit last week. Easiest thing ever, I tried quitting soda once, felt like I was dying the next day. You "quit" for a week. Come back next year and tell us how you have never touched a blunt in that period of time.
Yeah k I will.
Then what?
Are you implying I can't quit smoking? You sure are basing that off a whole ton of information.
Also, I've quit harder drugs in the past, and haven't touched any in years. Please don't make assumptions from thin air, it makes you look ignorant. Because see, you don't know me at all =)
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Being really unmotivated and really stingy has helped me a lot
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My worst habbit is gaming overall, I think so.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
diablo 2 for me
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I've been addicted to playing games in all it's forms ever since I was just an infant basically.
I've played em all, I've played countless and countless of hours.
I've been battling the addiction for long periods of time, and sometime I just give up. That was a few years ago, now I'm alot more in control of my life.
Don't let entertainment control your entire life boys n girls, it's unhealthy
You might end up losing your girlfriend, friends, family, work, social mechanisms and your objectivity
The worst was definitely World of Warcraft... That game is a menace to public health and societal liberty and freshness.
MMO's are generally worse, because it's the game that never EVER ends. There is always something to waste your time on, which is dangerous.
The adding of achievements and what not of the console culture has not helped this one bit, only to get much much worse..
Think about it when you turn on your computer and fire up the games..
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On June 14 2010 01:35 heishe wrote:
[x] other drug.
It's not a real drug, but I keep having these emotional relapses about my ex. It's gotten a lot better, I mean... it's been 6 fucking months, but I still think about her a whole lot and like twice a month I get these really intense feelings of sadness and stuff. I think it's some kind of addiction, since my brain tells me that I can't live without her, when I clearly have no trouble doing so.
Wow well described bro, I know that feeling all too well..
E-Hug ?
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When I first got Tales of Symphonia (JRPG for GCN/PS2), I basically played it all day long, up to a total of ~150 hours playtime over 2-3 weeks. I guess that's the longest period of excessive gaming I ever had. I didn't really cut back on other things though, I had a lot of free time that winter. And I definitely don't regret it.
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my addictions:
brood war - i used to be addicted, but i haven't played about 3 months so i guess i am cured
tobacco - i smoke 10-20 cigs a day, trying to lower the amount
gambling - i play roulette and slot machines. I think it's under control, but it is an addiction
beer - I drink at least couple beers everyday, cause czech beer is the best
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Smoked a lot of weed between 15 and 20 and played quite alot of BW between 20 and 25. Never been a fan of MMORPGs. I smoke 4 or 5 cigs a day which isn't much. Back when I was a kid I could play Civ 2 10 hours straight :p
A piece of advice : don't sacrifice your social life at any cost. Friendship is the most valuable thing in the world.
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On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though.
Smoke, eat, snort enough of anything and you will develop somewhat of a dependency. If you take any chemical day-in-day-out your body will begin to think that it's a normal state and when that state isn't recreated you will suffer withdrawal.
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On June 15 2010 05:56 AlliNPreFlop wrote:+ Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssMBQs7d5D8
LOL title needs to be changed in that video.. "Guy rips monitor in half with nerd rage.."
I played WoW for ahwile, stopped doing other things with my life, now i play starcraft and life's good.
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On June 16 2010 04:14 Darpinion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though. Smoke, eat, snort enough of anything and you will develop somewhat of a dependency. If you take any chemical day-in-day-out your body will begin to think that it's a normal state and when that state isn't recreated you will suffer withdrawal.
yes (i don't know if you are scientifically correct, I'm just going to assume you are) but how powerful are the withdrawal effects of weed?
they are minimal. I've had worse withdrawals from coffee than i have for weed.
i have taken all sorts of opiates, although never through the needle; never been physically addicted, i always spread out doses by at least 2 weeks. this is mostly because i have a ridiculously high natural tolerance to every opiate i have tried except fentanyl, gets expensive man.
the only drug i feel i have been both physically and mentally addicted to is mephedrone, the only stim i have taken.
WoW is nothing compared to drugs for me, i dont think many WoW players do anything "higher" than weed so they wouldn't know..
i really don't understand how a person can be 'addicted' to WoW...
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WoW has at certain times been an addiction for me, maybe it still is. Like a lot of people here I have been playing games for the majority of my life, and yet the only time it has ever become an unhealthy habit compared to an enjoyable hobby was when I played WoW.
My WoW addiction comes and goes. Ever since I first picked up the game three years ago I have gone through phases where I would play additively for hours a day months at a time, to quitting literally cold turkey for months at a time. For some reason, every now and then I would wake up (usually after raiding for hours the night before) and have absolutely no desire to play, and would not log on for the next few months. Unfortunately, I would later pick the game up and be as addicted as ever. An unusual and certainly unhealthy habit.
About a month ago when I got into the SC2 Beta I stopped playing WoW regularly (went from playing 6-8 hours a day to 1 hour a week) and have for the first time decided to consciously quit. I have realized that I can no longer afford to waste such precious time on a game anymore, and so I'm taking the advantage of having SC2 to try and quit for good. Having something to fall back on makes it significantly easier.
Like many people, the reason I have trouble quitting WoW is twofold. Firstly, finding something to fill in all that time spent playing, it can be a little shocking when you have an extra 6-8 hours in a day. And secondly, actually giving up all that "time and effort" put into your characters, and starting over on something else.
For anyone trying to quit I would suggest trying to realize the lack of return you get for playing the game in large quantities. Playing a few hours a week can be rewarding as it is enjoyable and relaxing, however most people who play many hours a day can probably agree that for every 5-8 hours session, you only enjoy a small portion of that. Its a bit of a paradox really, the less you play an mmo, the more rewarding it is in "real life" yet the more you play an mmo, the more rewarding it is in game.
I would also suggest finding something to fall back on. Those who are addicted are faced with the challenge of filling the gap left when they quit. You must find something to do in those empty hours, and must be careful not to fill it with something worse or equally distressful. For me its the pleasure of SC2 and writing augmented with the inevitable burdens of school and work. If your here on TL then SC can probably help you too, though I would strongly suggest not devoting all your new found time into it and end up in a similar scenario all over again.
Hopefully this post and the similar ones posted earlier can help those trying to quit, reading this thread has certainly given me some inspiration at the least.
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I actually think I have a caffeine addiction. When I don't drink coffee for a few days, I feel noticeably worse. Fortunately, all I have to do to remedy the situation is drink more coffee.
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On June 16 2010 08:25 Day[9] wrote:
I actually think I have a caffeine addiction. When I don't drink coffee for a few days, I feel noticeably worse. Fortunately, all I have to do to remedy the situation is drink more coffee.
I was addicted to coffee and would get a powerful splitting headache if I didn't drink it first thing in the morning. I would drink it from waking up to going to sleep. We're talking 20 cups of strong coffee per day. I slept 10-12 hours per night and would still feel tired all the time despite the coffee.
I used the ramp-down schedule posted earlier in this thread, reducing my consumption by 7.5 ml per day and I am almost clean of caffeine. I am now sleeping 6-8 hours per night and feel much better during the day.
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On June 14 2010 02:19 minus_human wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 01:31 Wr3k wrote:On June 14 2010 01:30 Master Shaman wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Spoken like a true addict. If smothing pot once every 4-6 months is an addiction then I guess you caught me you stupid fuck. I haven't been to a dealer in 4 years. What is your problem? Relax, no one was insulting you
Someone needs to chill out and smoke more pot.
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It's how we are made, we just have to be addicted to something.
Just have to pick what to be addicted to wisely
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On June 16 2010 08:25 Day[9] wrote:
I actually think I have a caffeine addiction. When I don't drink coffee for a few days, I feel noticeably worse. Fortunately, all I have to do to remedy the situation is drink more coffee.
I think caffeine takes longer to kick than you'd think. I have friends who have to not drink coffee for weeks to get back to shape without the 'addiction'.
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ah dude don't go back to WoW.
get off ur PC and do something else. its just such a mindless brain drain and a total waste of your time. ur not even having fun, ur just playing because u have to.
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I've been drinking almost daily for 2 years and still nothing. Last month I had no money so I was sober for 30 days, didn't have a single problem doing so. I guess I'm lucky, but still, I would like to be addicted to something just to see how it is to stop.
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On June 15 2010 15:45 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 11:08 Cloud wrote:On June 15 2010 10:47 PanN wrote:On June 15 2010 08:11 Zoltan wrote:On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though. im not trying to inspire fear. It is addictive long term though, just not short term. And compared to quitting nicotine it would be like quitting chewing gum. I have smoked pot for two years in a row, there hasn't been a day that's gone by where I haven't been high at least twice a day. I quit last week. Easiest thing ever, I tried quitting soda once, felt like I was dying the next day. You "quit" for a week. Come back next year and tell us how you have never touched a blunt in that period of time. Yeah k I will. Then what? Are you implying I can't quit smoking? You sure are basing that off a whole ton of information. Also, I've quit harder drugs in the past, and haven't touched any in years. Please don't make assumptions from thin air, it makes you look ignorant. Because see, you don't know me at all =)
I'm implying that not smoking for a week is not quitting. But thanks for unnecessarily flaunting your ego, now I know enough about you.
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On June 16 2010 08:25 Day[9] wrote:
I actually think I have a caffeine addiction. When I don't drink coffee for a few days, I feel noticeably worse. Fortunately, all I have to do to remedy the situation is drink more coffee.
I think caffeine addiction is quite common actually. Many people feel these adverse physiological effects (big words = me watching big bang theory =/ me being smort). Thing is, when you're that addicted, caffeine doesn't even affect you. Certainly, you may need it to get through the day, but you will have as much energy as you did before you started drinking caffeine in the first place.
Coffee and energy drinks are best for occasional use.
Anyways, I don't know what the term is for developing resistances to drugs and chemicals such as caffeine. Habitualization? Very common occurrence, as I'm sure most people, even just alchol consumers, would know.
I think one good way to quit caffeine is to drink a tiny bit less every day (yes you do measure it) to wean yourself off. Keep everything in an excel spreadsheet. Another way is to use grain coffee.
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On June 16 2010 04:55 UbOs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2010 04:14 Darpinion wrote:On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though. Smoke, eat, snort enough of anything and you will develop somewhat of a dependency. If you take any chemical day-in-day-out your body will begin to think that it's a normal state and when that state isn't recreated you will suffer withdrawal. yes (i don't know if you are scientifically correct, I'm just going to assume you are) but how powerful are the withdrawal effects of weed? they are minimal. I've had worse withdrawals from coffee than i have for weed. i have taken all sorts of opiates, although never through the needle; never been physically addicted, i always spread out doses by at least 2 weeks. this is mostly because i have a ridiculously high natural tolerance to every opiate i have tried except fentanyl, gets expensive man. the only drug i feel i have been both physically and mentally addicted to is mephedrone, the only stim i have taken. WoW is nothing compared to drugs for me, i dont think many WoW players do anything "higher" than weed so they wouldn't know.. i really don't understand how a person can be 'addicted' to WoW...
They're not physically addicted! It isn't a chemical. It's completely psychological, but what's the difference? Really? Coffee definitely has worse withdrawal then marijuana and is considered (in the scientific community) to be one of the most addictive drugs that there is. I'm just saying that people who say that marijuana has no physical dependence haven't smoked enough marijuana to realize that YES it does have a physical dependence factor and that you just have to do it enough for it the manifest.
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On June 16 2010 22:29 Darpinion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2010 04:55 UbOs wrote:On June 16 2010 04:14 Darpinion wrote:On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though. Smoke, eat, snort enough of anything and you will develop somewhat of a dependency. If you take any chemical day-in-day-out your body will begin to think that it's a normal state and when that state isn't recreated you will suffer withdrawal. yes (i don't know if you are scientifically correct, I'm just going to assume you are) but how powerful are the withdrawal effects of weed? they are minimal. I've had worse withdrawals from coffee than i have for weed. i have taken all sorts of opiates, although never through the needle; never been physically addicted, i always spread out doses by at least 2 weeks. this is mostly because i have a ridiculously high natural tolerance to every opiate i have tried except fentanyl, gets expensive man. the only drug i feel i have been both physically and mentally addicted to is mephedrone, the only stim i have taken. WoW is nothing compared to drugs for me, i dont think many WoW players do anything "higher" than weed so they wouldn't know.. i really don't understand how a person can be 'addicted' to WoW... They're not physically addicted! It isn't a chemical. It's completely psychological, but what's the difference? Really? Coffee definitely has worse withdrawal then marijuana and is considered (in the scientific community) to be one of the most addictive drugs that there is. I'm just saying that people who say that marijuana has no physical dependence haven't smoked enough marijuana to realize that YES it does have a physical dependence factor and that you just have to do it enough for it the manifest.
What isn't a chemical? THC and cannabinoids?
If you don't know or care about the differences between physical addiction and psychological addiction I don't see how you're arguing about it.
I get what you're saying and i have smoked 2+ grams a day for awhile at points in my life but I have just been told by more informed people than I that there is no chemical aspect of the withdrawal effects of marijuana. I do remember having eating problems but that only lasted for a week and have been told that is just because I was conditioned to eat only after I smoked. That would explain why I never had any sleeping problems as I never smoke before bed. I'll ask some people about the issue, but unless you're going to start citing sources, I'll have a hard time believing anything you say about the scientific basis of the issue.
People say every non psychedelic drug is the most addictive drug in the world.
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Coffee addiction was pretty subtle for me. Never drank it until college, and only then when I needed to (problem sets/tests). Then all of a sudden my junior year I found myself drinking 3-4 cups a day, and operating around 50-70% of my capacity without it... pretty weird and disconcerting -- not sure how I got there.
So I decided to give it up for Lent ... 40 days did the trick, haven't drank on a consistent basis since.
[More about coffee addiction: http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/02/22/coffee］
Video games and porn on the other hand ... I've tried so hard, so many times, it keeps coming back to bite me in the ass. I hit rock bottom my junior year, and by a miracle I came off it, didn't touch the stuff for 5 years after that. Unfortunately I slipped back into it 1.5 yrs ago =( Which really sucks because I have a really good job (albeit really long hours), great friendships, an awesome girlfriend, a great church ... and I feel like I'm slowly spiraling down to the point where they're all slowly suffering and I'm gonna lose them eventually. Freaking A man ... what is wrong with me.
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On June 16 2010 22:05 Cloud wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 15:45 PanN wrote:On June 15 2010 11:08 Cloud wrote:On June 15 2010 10:47 PanN wrote:On June 15 2010 08:11 Zoltan wrote:On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though. im not trying to inspire fear. It is addictive long term though, just not short term. And compared to quitting nicotine it would be like quitting chewing gum. I have smoked pot for two years in a row, there hasn't been a day that's gone by where I haven't been high at least twice a day. I quit last week. Easiest thing ever, I tried quitting soda once, felt like I was dying the next day. You "quit" for a week. Come back next year and tell us how you have never touched a blunt in that period of time. Yeah k I will. Then what? Are you implying I can't quit smoking? You sure are basing that off a whole ton of information. Also, I've quit harder drugs in the past, and haven't touched any in years. Please don't make assumptions from thin air, it makes you look ignorant. Because see, you don't know me at all =) I'm implying that not smoking for a week is not quitting. But thanks for unnecessarily flaunting your ego, now I know enough about you.
I'm going to settle this through pm, I get banned too much. <3
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Took adderall twice a day for 8 months-ish. Ended up with pretty severe psychosis (hallucinations, delusions, paranoia), so obviously that had to stop... still have the psychosis, though - just not as bad :\.
I guess you could say I was addicted to weed at two separate points as well, since I at those points spent every spare dollar on it. The first time was maybe two months long and the second time, about five or six. The only reason I'm not smoking anymore is because I currently don't have contact with my long-time best friend and previous roommate.
I've tried cocaine as well. Everybody I know who tried it, including me, says it's just not worth the money.
[B]On June 16 2010 22:29 Darpinion wrote:
Coffee definitely has worse withdrawal then marijuana and is considered (in the scientific community) to be one of the most addictive drugs that there is.
Caffeine isn't considered one of the most addictive drugs - it's actually somewhere toward the bottom, even if you consider the fact that it's a physical addiction rather than mental. Here's a chart:
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2009/12/13/you_cant_handle_the_truth/
which doesn't even rank caffeine because it's just not that harmful, misused, or mentally addictive ('high' affect) - and the physical addiction just isn't that strong. The worst withdrawal symptom is, for god's sake, a headache, which I'd rank way more appealing than depression. Cocaine, for example, doesn't have any physical addiction to it, nor physical withdrawal symptoms, but you sure are in for one horrible bout of depression after an all-nighter of use.
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On June 14 2010 13:55 Twilexia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 12:55 0neder wrote:
Why isn't pornography on here? I'd guess it's the #1 addiction in the world right now. I don't think porn is an addiction, necessarily. Why? There's an end. Your body simply won't let you watch porn endlessly. On the other hand... when you're playing a game, you ignore your body's desires.....
Porn triggers dopamine production in the brain, but no endorphins are released, thus it isn't the same as a healthy committed relationship.
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Ironically enough I found WoW to help my teamwork skills. Doing 3v3 coordinating stuff transferred over into my later activities. Another one would be the ability to de-tunnel vision, learned after many faceroll losses in arena heh :p
As for my own addiction, I've been playing wow since it came out, nov 23 w/e year that was. And for a couple years I would get on right away after school and play until bedtime, and during the weekend I'd be on all day. So now that I think about it it was about 6-8 hours a day during earlier school times. It only got worse. I rejected friends' invitations and opportunities from school as well as getting a job. Eventually I end up failing a 2nd year of grade 12 and go to a school that offers you a few courses in just a couple months. Much more intense, interesting, and challenging than my previous high school. Now that I'm finished, I've been on the computer for maybe all of the day, every day, though I have made many bounces back. I went in for an interview for a job, as well as sending in several resumes to stores around the area. I've also been talking to girls lately, and one who I've known since the beginning of high school invited me over to visit her new place.
All in all I'm getting back on track, I was accepted to a university which I plan to go to next year and trudging forward to find a job. Unfortunately it feels as though my time with WoW has damaged my brain beyond repair. Getting back into RTS, I'm noticing I'm a whole lot slower and have a lot of "derp" moments as well as not feeling I have the same control over the game(strategy, tactics, mechanics etc...) as I did several years ago. My sub ends this sunday and I won't be renewing it. Time to get clean, time to get back to real games
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On June 17 2010 04:28 Roe wrote: Ironically enough I found WoW to help my teamwork skills. Doing 3v3 coordinating stuff transferred over into my later activities. Another one would be the ability to de-tunnel vision, learned after many faceroll losses in arena heh :p As for my own addiction, I've been playing wow since it came out, nov 23 w/e year that was. And for a couple years I would get on right away after school and play until bedtime, and during the weekend I'd be on all day. So now that I think about it it was about 6-8 hours a day during earlier school times. It only got worse. I rejected friends' invitations and opportunities from school as well as getting a job. Eventually I end up failing a 2nd year of grade 12 and go to a school that offers you a few courses in just a couple months. Much more intense, interesting, and challenging than my previous high school. Now that I'm finished, I've been on the computer for maybe all of the day, every day, though I have made many bounces back. I went in for an interview for a job, as well as sending in several resumes to stores around the area. I've also been talking to girls lately, and one who I've known since the beginning of high school invited me over to visit her new place. All in all I'm getting back on track, I was accepted to a university which I plan to go to next year and trudging forward to find a job. Unfortunately it feels as though my time with WoW has damaged my brain beyond repair. Getting back into RTS, I'm noticing I'm a whole lot slower and have a lot of "derp" moments as well as not feeling I have the same control over the game(strategy, tactics, mechanics etc...) as I did several years ago. My sub ends this sunday and I won't be renewing it. Time to get clean, time to get back to real games
Good job cancelling your sub. Don't go back, other games are so much more fun and rewarding and don't consume your life in the same way.
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Why is caffeine not on here? Definitely one of the easiest things to get addicted to. I've been drinking coffee since I was like 13, and now I have to have a cup every morning or I get a headache.
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On June 17 2010 11:52 teh leet newb wrote:
Why is caffeine not on here? Definitely one of the easiest things to get addicted to. I've been drinking coffee since I was like 13, and now I have to have a cup every morning or I get a headache.
lolwut, coffee is on the poll and mentioned in the original post. Try reading next time.
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On June 14 2010 01:31 Wr3k wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 01:30 Master Shaman wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Spoken like a true addict. If smothing pot once every 4-6 months is an addiction then I guess you caught me you stupid fuck. I haven't been to a dealer in 4 years.
acceptance is the first step my friend, let it go.
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On June 17 2010 12:07 oo_xerox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 01:31 Wr3k wrote:On June 14 2010 01:30 Master Shaman wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Spoken like a true addict. If smothing pot once every 4-6 months is an addiction then I guess you caught me you stupid fuck. I haven't been to a dealer in 4 years. acceptance is the first step my friend, let it go.
seriously? are you a troll?
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I'd be willing to bet a lot of nerds here had/have a food addiction. Far more than a cocaine habit in any case. I know that until I was 15 I had a really unhealthy relationship with food, I put on a lot of pounds from obsessively overeating. Thankfully, I managed to work myself down to healthy weight.
I still eat when I'm not hungry sometimes. I'd call that an addiction: it's a chemical high.
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On June 17 2010 13:55 UbOs wrote:
Alright, i wasn't sure.
Duh...
I need to stop smocking, i can stop playing BW, i dont have any adiction, but fucking cigarretes are ruining my tooth....
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This topic reminds me of the thread about those who signed up to stop masturbating, wonder if that thread was closed. I don't think anybody lasted.
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On June 16 2010 23:42 UbOs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2010 22:29 Darpinion wrote:On June 16 2010 04:55 UbOs wrote:On June 16 2010 04:14 Darpinion wrote:On June 15 2010 05:06 SpiritAshura wrote:On June 15 2010 03:42 Zoltan wrote:On June 14 2010 01:28 Wr3k wrote:
Where is pot? Even though it isn't chemically addictive it can definitely become a bad habit. It never really became a habit for me but I know people who it has become a problem for.
Wow is way worse though. I played it for years, so glad I'm done with it.
Oh and you should prob put prescription drugs, meth, X, snuff/snus/chew on there. Pot becomes chemichally addictive after years of use. You will maintain a constant state of depression when not smoking weed once you have been steady on it for a few years. Pot isn't chemically addictive. You can develop mental addictions towards it but unless you're getting laced marijuana you only have to worry about your own self control. Not trying to derail this thread though. Smoke, eat, snort enough of anything and you will develop somewhat of a dependency. If you take any chemical day-in-day-out your body will begin to think that it's a normal state and when that state isn't recreated you will suffer withdrawal. yes (i don't know if you are scientifically correct, I'm just going to assume you are) but how powerful are the withdrawal effects of weed? they are minimal. I've had worse withdrawals from coffee than i have for weed. i have taken all sorts of opiates, although never through the needle; never been physically addicted, i always spread out doses by at least 2 weeks. this is mostly because i have a ridiculously high natural tolerance to every opiate i have tried except fentanyl, gets expensive man. the only drug i feel i have been both physically and mentally addicted to is mephedrone, the only stim i have taken. WoW is nothing compared to drugs for me, i dont think many WoW players do anything "higher" than weed so they wouldn't know.. i really don't understand how a person can be 'addicted' to WoW... They're not physically addicted! It isn't a chemical. It's completely psychological, but what's the difference? Really? Coffee definitely has worse withdrawal then marijuana and is considered (in the scientific community) to be one of the most addictive drugs that there is. I'm just saying that people who say that marijuana has no physical dependence haven't smoked enough marijuana to realize that YES it does have a physical dependence factor and that you just have to do it enough for it the manifest. What isn't a chemical? THC and cannabinoids? If you don't know or care about the differences between physical addiction and psychological addiction I don't see how you're arguing about it. I get what you're saying and i have smoked 2+ grams a day for awhile at points in my life but I have just been told by more informed people than I that there is no chemical aspect of the withdrawal effects of marijuana. I do remember having eating problems but that only lasted for a week and have been told that is just because I was conditioned to eat only after I smoked. That would explain why I never had any sleeping problems as I never smoke before bed. I'll ask some people about the issue, but unless you're going to start citing sources, I'll have a hard time believing anything you say about the scientific basis of the issue. People say every non psychedelic drug is the most addictive drug in the world.
I'm talking about WoW...
I said earlier in the thread that if you put a chemical in your body day-in-day-out that you're going to be addicted to it.
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