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FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
June 11 2010 22:37 GMT
#41
its so perfect random guy winning no corrrupt guys
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 11 2010 22:37 GMT
#42
On June 12 2010 05:28 StarBrift wrote:
Gonna be interesting to see the theories on how this dude got into this position. I'm guessing it has something to do with the democrats having decided beforehand that they wanted to nominate a black guy (demographics and all that).

Just looking at it from outside this seems like a bad joke. I mean I'm sure the guy is a perfectly pleasant man but he seems to have no qualification what so ever.

I think you're severely overestimating the qualifications of your average politician.
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yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
June 11 2010 22:42 GMT
#43
I'll ask - was there a picture in the ballot next to the guy's name.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
June 11 2010 22:45 GMT
#44
He's not a maverick, he's outright ignorant. He doesn't seem honest at all; he dodged several questions as "no comment", could provide zero specifics on his campaigning and was almost surely backed by someone else to pay that 10k fee. I fear for the state of the world if public cynicism of intelligent, well-informed politicians has grown so great that this sort of candidate becomes attractive. I don't want a soccer mom or an average joe as the administrator of my state. I want someone smarter than me with a background in economics and public policy.
Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 22:48:49
June 11 2010 22:46 GMT
#45
He won because of two things:
1) his name was first on the ballot.
2) Nobody on the democratic side gave a shit about this primary because they know that the republican candidate is an overwhelming favorite to win.

This guy is surely an idiot, and he has a felony to boot.

It's sad because this shows how little thought people actually put into their votes. It makes me wonder whether a democracy is really the way to go sometimes.
GuYuTe-
Profile Joined February 2005
United States550 Posts
June 11 2010 22:49 GMT
#46
Surprised no one has mentioned the obvious yet: he ran for the Democratic party, he's black, and his name is Al Green! I guarantee you a lot of people voted for him simply b/c of his name.
MetalMarine
Profile Joined June 2007
United States1559 Posts
June 11 2010 22:50 GMT
#47
America is more fucked up than I thought LOL.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 23:03:14
June 11 2010 22:59 GMT
#48
On June 12 2010 07:15 neohero9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2010 07:04 On_Slaught wrote:
He's also in trouble with the law for showing pornography to younger people.

The reason he won seems obvious tho. My understanding is that he ran against a Judge who wasn't very well known either. His name ends with a G and his opponent with an R. If you have ignorance on both then most people will vote for the first name on the list and that is likely what happened here.

The Democratic party has asked him to back out but he refuses.


Uh... the Dems actually asked him to step down. Where did you get that he refused?

The way you phrased the porn thing makes it sound like he was showing it to minors. He showed it to a university student and then asked her to go back to a room.


NPR reported that he refused.

And I know he was showing it to university students not minors. Nothing I said was incorrect.

Considering all the bullshit the state went through with their previous leaders, his standing with the courts with regards to this charge is pretty big.

Even without that tho just listening to him is depressing. He sounds like he didn't even graduate HS.

There is one interesting thing to note. It cost over 10,000$ to put your name on the ballot. Somehow he got the money for that yet he can't afford an attorney for his upcomming trial. Apparently the state is going to look into this and ask why they are being forced to pay for his attorney if he could afford 10k. (they talked about this in the vid a little and he claims it was his money)
Golden Ghost
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands1041 Posts
June 11 2010 23:04 GMT
#49
So when is the election? And will the Democratic Party help him run and prepare him for the campaign?

He is probably a honest man but in most cases I still wouldn't want him as my representative. I would prefer a candidate with more knowledge about the worldly matters and a sex scandal above a honest Joe who doesn't seem to know the basics about much of the things he has to do.
Naturally his impression as not to smart could come from a lack of public speaking abilities (which is quite easy to teach somebody) and not a lack of mental capacities but deep down I doubt it.

I'm sorry to say this but most people just aren't smart enough to become successful honest politicians. You have to take into account so much facets of a problem most people just can't see this and only see the simple solution that perhaps works for short time but causes a lot more problems down the road.

Unfortunately most politicians are only doing what get's them reelected instead of looking for what's best for the country and thus defacto not true honest politicians in my book. A true honest politician must not be afraid to make the unpopular decisions although it probably will cost him his reelection. For a politician the good of the country should always come first and his own job second (I know. I'm an idealist).

I don't know his opponent but depending on how I would perceive his honesty it would influence my choice. If I would think his opponent is a little less honest but has a far greater knowledge about what he is talking about then that's where my vote would go. If I think his opponent is a great deal less honest I would vote for this guy.

Even though he may not have the greatest knowledge it would be refreshing to see how he would take on the job. Perhaps he wouldn't accomplish much because of his lack in political skills but hopefully it could at least cause a shock effect.
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
June 11 2010 23:04 GMT
#50
This guy is a Dick Cheney's wet dream.
neohero9
Profile Joined May 2010
United States595 Posts
June 11 2010 23:11 GMT
#51
http://www.scdp.org/news/scdemsnews/435/

"Today, South Carolina Democratic Party Chair Carol Fowler asked Alvin Greene to withdraw from the race for US Senate... 'Today I spoke with Alvin Greene, the presumptive Democratic nominee for the US Senate, and asked him to withdraw from the race.'"

I do suppose it's possible that he would refuse the Dems help, as well. He stated in an interview that the Dems never supported him at all, though, so I don't know what he would have refused.

I didn't mean to sound like you said he was showing porn to minors; simply that it could be read that way with the language you used. "Younger people" is kind of vague, and when used in a story about a politician, the mind tends to leap to the most sinister possibilities.
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Golden Ghost
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands1041 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 23:16:27
June 11 2010 23:15 GMT
#52
On June 12 2010 07:45 3clipse wrote:
I don't want a soccer mom or an average joe as the administrator of my state. I want someone smarter than me with a background in economics and public policy.

So true. I mean if the average Joe would run the country the country would be completely run into the ground in a few decades.

Cynical note: To bad people with a high IQ tend to have relatively fewer children per person as people with a low IQ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fertility_and_intelligence
Life is to give and take. You take a vacation and you give to the poor.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
June 11 2010 23:29 GMT
#53
well I've seen Bush selected as a president so this doesnt surprise me.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 11 2010 23:41 GMT
#54
Well, South Carolina's going to be a red state again.

I'd be annoyed that the Dem candidate sucks, but this is honestly nothing new in a deep South state. Although, if this dude wins, I will laugh so hard.
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eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
June 11 2010 23:41 GMT
#55
i don't think he'd change anything for the worse if he won
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
June 11 2010 23:49 GMT
#56
best troll ever
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
June 11 2010 23:54 GMT
#57
Woooo, my hero.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
June 12 2010 00:00 GMT
#58
the guy is weeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrddddddd

Can someone expain what this election actually means in the USA? Is it like starleague preliminaries for the US President or the congres or what?
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
June 12 2010 00:16 GMT
#59
hahaha he actually came off kinda cute in that interview even though it was super tough. if nothing else i'm at least interested in how this turns out and about the general state of south carolina politics, which hitherto I can confidently say had never entered my mind before.
manner
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-12 00:27:03
June 12 2010 00:26 GMT
#60
On June 12 2010 09:00 niteReloaded wrote:
the guy is weeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrddddddd

Can someone expain what this election actually means in the USA? Is it like starleague preliminaries for the US President or the congres or what?

It is for the US senate (two senators from each state). In pretty much any US election you will have Democrats vs Democrats and Republicans vs Republicans. The two winners face off in Democrat vs Republican, and whoever wins becomes the senator. This guy won the D v D election so he'll move on to face the opposing party's candidate.

Note that these elections are generally about how much money a candidate can collect and spend from large corporations, law firms, unions, banks etc etc. EXCEPT FOR THIS GUY LOL.

Senate races have fewer candidates and are easier to follow because of it (100 total, 2 per state can be elected. The House of Reps has 435 based off of the state's population. Senate + House = Congress) so its really strange this guy made it through.

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