EPTUK Parliament Elections 2010 - Page 16
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KwarK
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6642 Posts
On May 06 2010 21:34 Klive5ive wrote: Well wait a minute we don't know for sure if that's the whole story. We didn't see if anything happened before that. I think that was just typical of the sort of fights that occasionally break out. Both groups were to blame and were clearly up for a fight. Stupid macho nonsense stirred up by racism. I didn't say that anything happened, he simply asked them how many of them were robbers and asked them if they wanted the police to come. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
I'LL GET YOU NEXT TIME BERCOOOOOW *crash* Personally I hope he has a speedy recovery because I enjoy his appearances on telly  . | ||
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XeliN
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sc4k
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XeliN
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
It just seemed like no one would say 'I know of some groups of Nigerians and Somalians, and Jamacians- well let's call them niggers for ease' and therefore it's equally egregious to use paki. | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
On April 20 2010 20:28 Arbiter[frolix] wrote: If you are referring to government debt the figure is nowhere near that high. Nor is it particularly high by historic standards: UK National Debt 1900-2010 The hysteria over the deficit is an unfortunate distraction from more important matters such as employment levels and productivity, in my view. But it fits with a certain dominant economic ideology, which is why it is central to the mainstream discussion as framed by the media and the political establishment. ![[image loading]](http://static.businessinsider.com/image/4b672ecd000000000063a946/debt-sovereign.png) UK debt is at 450% of GDP , i can't see how you can see that is sustainable. | ||
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KwarK
United States44374 Posts
On May 06 2010 21:55 sc4k wrote: Paki is a really derogatory term by the way. There is literally no difference between that word and nigger where I come from (LDN). It wasn't 20 years ago. It used to be perfectly acceptable to say something like "I'm going to the Paki shop"(in reference to the commonness of Pakistani owned newsagents) These words have as much venom as you put into them. Saying Paki as short for Pakistani shouldn't offend anyone any more than Brit for British. There should be sufficient difference in the tone, inflection and context to distinguish a hate term from a statement of nationality. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
I know the word makes more sense than nigger, because it's simply a shortening, but it has been used in harsh context too often in the recent history of our country to be acceptable. I don't use the word nigger because it upsets black people and that upsets me. I similarly don't use the word paki because it upsets many people of South Asian descent. I'm just saying that personally I'd advise anyone not to use it. And not to stand up for themselves as if their way of life has been threatened when they are asked not to use it. Just give it up. For example I resigned to not using the word oriental on this forum when I found out people from America dislike it, even though it's perfectly acceptable here. | ||
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KwarK
United States44374 Posts
Do Americans really dislike the word oriental? It doesn't even roll off the tongue. Hate terms have to be fun to say or they wouldn't catch on. I just tried saying oriental with venom and it's no nigger. | ||
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XeliN
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On May 06 2010 22:25 XeliN wrote: Moving back to the video posted, I spent the entire time expecting excitedly for the BNP guy to have the shit kicked into him. Of course such a response might be playing into their political agenda. How does that attitude make you any better than them? Thugs are thugs regardless of race, no-one should be wishing violence on anybody. The "unite against Facism" lot are just as bad as some of the BNP. No-one should be throwing eggs or starting riots this is supposed to be a free country where you can say what you want. I have zero problems with the BNP saying what they want. I don't even think it would be a disaster for Nick to get into parliament (probably won't happen). Voicing frustrations through discussion rather than violence is the whole point of democracy. If people see a problem and want to run for office to change things then good for them. | ||
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KwarK
United States44374 Posts
On May 06 2010 22:58 Klive5ive wrote: How does that attitude make you any better than them? Thugs are thugs regardless of race, no-one should be wishing violence on anybody. The "unite against Facism" lot are just as bad as some of the BNP. No-one should be throwing eggs or starting riots this is supposed to be a free country where you can say what you want. I have zero problems with the BNP saying what they want. I don't even think it would be a disaster for Nick to get into parliament (probably won't happen). Voicing frustrations through discussion rather than violence is the whole point of democracy. If people see a problem and want to run for office to change things then good for them. It'd be a shocking inditement against the people of this country if he got into Parliament. | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On May 06 2010 23:34 KwarK wrote: It'd be a shocking inditement against the people of this country if he got into Parliament. Yeah let's brush it under the carpet and pretend like we have a perfect multi-cultural society where no-one is concerned or upset. Nick Griffin has chosen to stand for election rather than parading around looking for a fight. There is something admirable in that approach even if his opinions are incredibly misguided. | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6642 Posts
The mormon (I assume, they were american and seemed to work at the church) girls out front showing you where to go were pretty hot and very friendly so that was good  | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
With Nick Griffin I personally am skeptical whether he actually holds some of the beliefs and positions his party espouse or whether he does so for his own self-promotion. Either way he is a contemptable individual who ought to be flogged. Edit: I should rephrase I wasn't suggesting a "fight" more someone having "the shit kicked into him" which is quite different but the point still stands, even if my position is weakened | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On May 06 2010 22:20 KwarK wrote: What about "having a chinky" meaning getting a Chinese takeaway? It's just slang. Do Americans really dislike the word oriental? It doesn't even roll off the tongue. Hate terms have to be fun to say or they wouldn't catch on. I just tried saying oriental with venom and it's no nigger. Well from where I come from polite folk tend to avoid all racial terms like that. I went to a school where there were fairly large groups of South Asians and East Asians and I know they all hated with a passion the mention of words like paki and chink so I guess that's where I get my distaste of the word. It's less of a sort of 'ooh man you can't say that' to 'oh come on man does it matter that much to you?'. It just makes me personally uncomfortable for ppl to be using such words in conversation. I guess it's my problem. | ||
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Eishi_Ki
Korea (South)1667 Posts
On May 07 2010 00:03 jello_biafra wrote: Just got back from voting, pretty uneventful, I was the only person in there at the time lol, just me and the 3 old women ticking names off the register or whatever in that big hall. The mormon (I assume, they were american and seemed to work at the church) girls out front showing you where to go were pretty hot and very friendly so that was good In Fife by chance? Might go check this out... seems as good a reason as any | ||
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tenacity
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