On April 19 2010 02:20 ccou wrote:
DJ entus?
DJ entus?
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SilentCrono
United States1420 Posts
On April 19 2010 02:20 ccou wrote: DJ entus? | ||
alpskomleko
Slovenia950 Posts
On April 19 2010 03:35 soliddew wrote: this thread needs more cloudkicker... not really as brutal as other "djent" bands, but still has the same polymetric feel as they do. Wow. This single one-man artist deserves more attention than this thread could possibly hope to give. Thank you so much for posting! | ||
soliddew
United States28 Posts
On April 21 2010 07:26 alpskomleko wrote: Show nested quote + On April 19 2010 03:35 soliddew wrote: this thread needs more cloudkicker... not really as brutal as other "djent" bands, but still has the same polymetric feel as they do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZtisFY6Km8& Wow. This single one-man artist deserves more attention than this thread could possibly hope to give. Thank you so much for posting! no problem. you can download all of his albums/eps on his myspace for free. also, if you like cloudkicker, you might also like Chimp Spanner. same type of one man progressive type of deal. Chimp Spanner is really fantastic. heres another "djent" influenced band. breaks away from the chuggachuggachoochoo of meshuggah and most modern day djent and instead uses some jazz elements. 1980 - sagaie i'm just going to edit this post whenever i feel necessary to add in djenty bands that aren't a carbon copy of meshuggah. | ||
Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On April 21 2010 05:05 hp.Methos wrote: Best. DJ. Ever. | ||
ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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TheOvermind77
United States923 Posts
On April 21 2010 02:09 AnWh wrote: Lady GaGa goes Djent! Nice mix, whoever did it. Doesn't sound....that bad?.... | ||
soliddew
United States28 Posts
On April 21 2010 13:36 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I hope that Periphery isn't one of the bands being referred to as a 'carbon copy of Meshuggah'. Their album is completely sick, I'm already in love with it. periphery is definitely not a carbon-copy of meshuggah. i didnt mention them because they were in the OP. i do love periphery, but their new album wasn't as good as it could have been. i miss their old drummer too much. | ||
AtTheFuneral
United States137 Posts
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ErOs_HalO
United States167 Posts
If anyone wants to talk and share music idea with me PM!! Not too much on rechecking this thread with all the youtube videos :X! | ||
Late
Latvia418 Posts
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Krowser
Canada788 Posts
On April 23 2010 02:54 Late wrote: Damn, this is so INCREDIBLY GOOD. Must take insane skill to play riffs like that. I keep listening to these songs over and over. Thanks a lot man! Playing the riffs, it's not so bad. You just practice. WRITTING them is the hard part. To come up with that stuff, you have to be good. There's no other way. | ||
ZeroCartin
Costa Rica2390 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
On April 23 2010 02:58 Krowser wrote: Show nested quote + On April 23 2010 02:54 Late wrote: Damn, this is so INCREDIBLY GOOD. Must take insane skill to play riffs like that. I keep listening to these songs over and over. Thanks a lot man! Playing the riffs, it's not so bad. You just practice. WRITTING them is the hard part. To come up with that stuff, you have to be good. There's no other way. either that or have no idea what you are doing and just chuggah chuggah chuggah | ||
Fontong
United States6454 Posts
On April 19 2010 01:52 Quesadilla wrote: Second only to Dream Theater, Meshuggah is the bane of every modern music theory student's existence. I don't get why you are hyping polyrhythms so much. It is so ridiculously common in contemporary classical music to have things like this. I'm currently playing a 30 year old Toru Takemitsu duet with 5 on 3 on 2. Sure these guys are complex compared to the average pop scene, with its ubiquitous 4/4 patterns, but its really nothing special compared to even early 20th century music. I mean, they don't even use stuff like quarter tonality or play non melodic music. I mean, if they played in bohlen-pierce scales I would have shat my pants. This isn't anything like that. Fuck 4/4 anyway, play something in 5/8 even and I'll say its cool. Edit: oh ps, if they continually displace the 4/4 meter this is cross-rhythm not polyrhythm. | ||
fellcrow
United States288 Posts
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soliddew
United States28 Posts
On April 23 2010 03:22 Fontong wrote: Show nested quote + On April 19 2010 01:52 Quesadilla wrote: Second only to Dream Theater, Meshuggah is the bane of every modern music theory student's existence. I don't get why you are hyping polyrhythms so much. It is so ridiculously common in contemporary classical music to have things like this. I'm currently playing a 30 year old Toru Takemitsu duet with 5 on 3 on 2. Sure these guys are complex compared to the average pop scene, with its ubiquitous 4/4 patterns, but its really nothing special compared to even early 20th century music. I mean, they don't even use stuff like quarter tonality or play non melodic music. I mean, if they played in bohlen-pierce scales I would have shat my pants. This isn't anything like that. Fuck 4/4 anyway, play something in 5/8 even and I'll say its cool. Edit: oh ps, if they continually displace the 4/4 meter this is cross-rhythm not polyrhythm. i'll admit, the bands aren't SUPER modern with quarter tonality and stuff like that. but if you can show me guitars that have quarter tonality, which i don't think i've seen, that'd be pretty awesome. and i'm not sure, but aren't cross rhythms the same as polyrhythms? also, i know that the OP's claim and a lot of people's claims are a bit exaggerated, but you are looking at the music one-dimensionally. the musical techniques these bands use are used to convey a feeling, a groove, and aren't being done just to show off. honestly, stuff like 5/8 and 7/8 aren't even that interesting anymore. it is how it's being used. ps. what is a bohlen-pierce scale, because it sounds interesting | ||
Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On April 23 2010 05:28 soliddew wrote: Show nested quote + On April 23 2010 03:22 Fontong wrote: On April 19 2010 01:52 Quesadilla wrote: Second only to Dream Theater, Meshuggah is the bane of every modern music theory student's existence. I don't get why you are hyping polyrhythms so much. It is so ridiculously common in contemporary classical music to have things like this. I'm currently playing a 30 year old Toru Takemitsu duet with 5 on 3 on 2. Sure these guys are complex compared to the average pop scene, with its ubiquitous 4/4 patterns, but its really nothing special compared to even early 20th century music. I mean, they don't even use stuff like quarter tonality or play non melodic music. I mean, if they played in bohlen-pierce scales I would have shat my pants. This isn't anything like that. Fuck 4/4 anyway, play something in 5/8 even and I'll say its cool. Edit: oh ps, if they continually displace the 4/4 meter this is cross-rhythm not polyrhythm. i'll admit, the bands aren't SUPER modern with quarter tonality and stuff like that. but if you can show me guitars that have quarter tonality, which i don't think i've seen, that'd be pretty awesome. and i'm not sure, but aren't cross rhythms the same as polyrhythms? also, i know that the OP's claim and a lot of people's claims are a bit exaggerated, but you are looking at the music one-dimensionally. the musical techniques these bands use are used to convey a feeling, a groove, and aren't being done just to show off. honestly, stuff like 5/8 and 7/8 aren't even that interesting anymore. it is how it's being used. ps. what is a bohlen-pierce scale, because it sounds interesting For the record, quarter tonality can be achieved with bending or fret-less instruments (which are more common in basses, but fretless guitars exist. I agree with Fontong though, Meshuggah isn't the most complex musical project of all time, but they at least are more complex then the average pop band ![]() Though, i want to say thanks to the OP for posting Animals as Leaders - some really great songs from Tosin Abasi - and he's ridiculously talented. Jesus, I don't even like shredding and this guy can tear it up (also nice to hear some of his jazz inspired licks as well, nice that he diversifies himself [being that he actually seems to be trained in music]) | ||
Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On April 23 2010 06:09 Foucault wrote: Thread needs more Dillinger Escape Plan imo + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGNb-YT5ECA I think that you and I will get along just fine. | ||
Papvin
Denmark610 Posts
On April 23 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 23 2010 06 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:09 Foucault wrote: Thread needs more Dillinger Escape Plan imo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGNb-YT5ECA As much as I love DEP (I personally think Miss Machine is the greatest album ever made, like, ever!) I really don't think they have anything to do in this thread, since they're not Djent... At all! On topic, I loved the OP. Have been a Meshuggah fan for a long time, and it's so nice hearing some youngsters (ehm, sort or) play inspired from them. I really like some of the stuff you've posted in the op, Periphery has a lovely mix between Protest the Hero and Meshuggah, and it works great! Thanks for inlightening me into this genre or whatever people want to call it. Btw, to people yelling about this not being the most technical or complex ever made, well, that's not why you should listen to music anyway. You should listen to music because you think it sounds awesome/ awakes some feelings of some sort and such. Liking music conceptually is stupid. | ||
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