EPTNo seriously though, something has always turned me off about music that just tries so so so hard to sound "tough". Just so overdone.
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
No seriously though, something has always turned me off about music that just tries so so so hard to sound "tough". Just so overdone. | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
Is it DJ-ENT or De-jent or JENT or DA-GENT? | ||
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k20a
Canada412 Posts
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
Nice primer, though i'm far more interested in drone/doom bands like Nadja and The Angelic Process | ||
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Joseki
United States200 Posts
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On April 19 2010 02:56 Joseki wrote: Wait so dragonforce is djent? no, they are over-produced power metal | ||
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Krowser
Canada788 Posts
On April 19 2010 02:00 captainwafflos wrote: why do we need another name for tech metal After listening to the songs he posted, I figured out why it's called Djent. When you start talking about tech metal, the odds are most of the emphasis, or the band's "signature move" will be a breakdown of some sorts. Meaning that it's more about rhythm than melody. I wouldnt say it's a genre though, more like a technique. Just as you can make ''Meshuggah'' style riffs, you can write a very ''Djenty'' breakdown. (Best example, Veil of Maya - Unbreakable (Ending of the song) If there's one thing I noticed about Veil of Maya, who are kings of weird breakdowns, is that they mix up a LOT of Djents with their Chugs. See below Assuming this is a tab, the 1-1 power chords is a Djent. 0--0--0--1--0--0--1 0--0--0--1--0--0--1 Chug Chug Chug Djent Chug Chug Djent It creates a very... weird, psychedelic, borderline insane tone. I'm going out on a limb here because this is just something I noticed while listening to what I now know is referred to as Djent but messing around with time signatures and accenting odd beats really messes with your brain. If done proprely. The first CD of Born of Osiris has breakdowns that weren't really thought through (with exceptions of course). It's chugging for the sake of chugging. On their second cd they really figured something out though. In Elimination, the final part of the song represents hate in it's purest form. The breakdown is solid, the vocals are extremely aggressive but what really grabs me is the soft piano in the background, showing me that the vocalist has gone insane in his quest for vengeance or whatever it is he's talking about. He probably sees it as something beautiful at that point. Now, what does that mean for me? Not much, I'm a very happy person in general but I give BoO 10/10 for creating something that brings such a clear and precise image in my mind. Anyway, my point is that those Meshuggah style riffs really makes your mind... vulnerable(?) to insane/sad/melancholic/odd/trippy/eery melodies. A great example is TesseracT - Concealing Fate Part 1 at 6:30. It's the first time I listen to this song and that riff is burned into my brain. For me at least, it really catches my interest and brings me to ''that special place'' in music. | ||
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captainwafflos
United States212 Posts
(although yngvie malmsteen can basically be reduced to his obsession with shredding) | ||
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LeoTheLion
China958 Posts
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soliddew
United States28 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32282 Posts
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HeadhunteR
Argentina1258 Posts
Messugah is 4/4 but it has a polyrhythm on it. you Can still count 1 2 3 4 in the mayority of the songs the mayority of the time. The thing that makes meshuggah awsome is that. You can move your head in 4/4 while a 16/32 plus something else plus something else beat adds up to 4/4. FYI the only thing i listen metal related is Meshuggah everything else seems too predictable.. but hey i do like Iron maiden and such.. this seems more Hardcore some suff like that. Hope some Proleague matches use this music its a bit better than the current songs... | ||
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Aukai
United States1183 Posts
triplet-and triplet-and triplet-and triplet-and. These songs take right hand endurance and control to play, but are rather boring in the left hand department. | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2762 Posts
Other stuff sounds like mathrock to me. I wouldn't have started listening and I really like the tubes you post, but wtf djent? I'm not gonna use another musical genre name when the current once suffice. I also agree with the poster above me, it's awesome when you can just bang your head 4/4 no matter what crazy shit they play. Groove above all. | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
I find all these rhythm changes a bit annoying after a while, but in small doses they're fine. | ||
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Hollow
Canada2180 Posts
This is why it has the potential to be huge, because it appeals to the masses. If I listen to metal, I want to be challenged, not feel comfortable and part of some trend. Just my 2 cents. This is original and extreme, just for contrast's sake. | ||
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tirentu
Canada1257 Posts
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
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tirentu
Canada1257 Posts
On April 19 2010 04:05 Navane wrote: And most bands use a less revolutionairy instrument called "bass" to reach tones one octave lower than standard guitar E. You try making a bass sound like one of these guitars - it just doesn't work x.x | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On April 19 2010 04:29 Hollow wrote: I used to be into all those bands. I hate to use the term, but it's entry-level heavy music, Meshuggah included. It's actually the most accessible stuff in what should be an inaccessible genre. I'm referring to the more 'extreme' branch of Metal of course. This might sound like some of the most intense stuff in Metal, but it really isn't. There is a lot of technical complexity, but the music doesn't flow and lacks originality. It's also always over-produced. This was fine when Meshuggah did it, because they had this whole nihilistic/apocalyptic thing going and we could safely say that it fit perfectly with their themes and philosophical views. They were the only ones who sounded like this, so they were original. None of the other bands are. I've overplayed this stuff for about a year before realizing how empty it actually is of any originality. It's really bland. I can't feel any emotion when I listen to it -- at all. This is why it has the potential to be huge, because it appeals to the masses. If I listen to metal, I want to be challenged, not feel comfortable and part of some trend. Just my 2 cents. This is original and extreme, just for contrast's sake. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2rwLJyNE9A&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viPMwmLuKB4 Wow. I really really like the first song there. Great post btw. | ||
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