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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
April 18 2010 17:43 GMT
#21
This makes me wanna buy a TapouT shirt and drive around in a lifted truck.
No seriously though, something has always turned me off about music that just tries so so so hard to sound "tough". Just so overdone.
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Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 17:49:06
April 18 2010 17:48 GMT
#22
How the fuck do you PRONOUNCE. djent?

Is it DJ-ENT

or De-jent

or JENT

or DA-GENT?
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k20a
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada412 Posts
April 18 2010 17:50 GMT
#23
As an avid metal etc listener, I'm really digging Periphery. Pretty sick, just the new sound I've been looking for
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
April 18 2010 17:51 GMT
#24
I've never been able to get really into this kind of metal, though TesseracT and Animals as Leaders are small exceptions.


Nice primer, though i'm far more interested in drone/doom bands like Nadja and The Angelic Process
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Joseki
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States200 Posts
April 18 2010 17:56 GMT
#25
Wait so dragonforce is djent?
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
April 18 2010 17:57 GMT
#26
On April 19 2010 02:56 Joseki wrote:
Wait so dragonforce is djent?


no, they are over-produced power metal
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Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 18:07:48
April 18 2010 17:58 GMT
#27
On April 19 2010 02:00 captainwafflos wrote:
why do we need another name for tech metal


After listening to the songs he posted, I figured out why it's called Djent. When you start talking about tech metal, the odds are most of the emphasis, or the band's "signature move" will be a breakdown of some sorts. Meaning that it's more about rhythm than melody.

I wouldnt say it's a genre though, more like a technique. Just as you can make ''Meshuggah'' style riffs, you can write a very ''Djenty'' breakdown. (Best example, Veil of Maya - Unbreakable (Ending of the song)

If there's one thing I noticed about Veil of Maya, who are kings of weird breakdowns, is that they mix up a LOT of Djents with their Chugs.

See below
Assuming this is a tab, the 1-1 power chords is a Djent.

0--0--0--1--0--0--1
0--0--0--1--0--0--1

Chug Chug Chug Djent Chug Chug Djent

It creates a very... weird, psychedelic, borderline insane tone. I'm going out on a limb here because this is just something I noticed while listening to what I now know is referred to as Djent but messing around with time signatures and accenting odd beats really messes with your brain. If done proprely.

The first CD of Born of Osiris has breakdowns that weren't really thought through (with exceptions of course). It's chugging for the sake of chugging. On their second cd they really figured something out though.

In Elimination, the final part of the song represents hate in it's purest form. The breakdown is solid, the vocals are extremely aggressive but what really grabs me is the soft piano in the background, showing me that the vocalist has gone insane in his quest for vengeance or whatever it is he's talking about. He probably sees it as something beautiful at that point.
Now, what does that mean for me? Not much, I'm a very happy person in general but I give BoO 10/10 for creating something that brings such a clear and precise image in my mind.

Anyway, my point is that those Meshuggah style riffs really makes your mind... vulnerable(?) to insane/sad/melancholic/odd/trippy/eery melodies.

A great example is TesseracT - Concealing Fate Part 1 at 6:30. It's the first time I listen to this song and that riff is burned into my brain. For me at least, it really catches my interest and brings me to ''that special place'' in music.
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captainwafflos
Profile Joined February 2009
United States212 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 18:02:55
April 18 2010 18:00 GMT
#28
"djent" is a technique or style of playing, not a genre. that would be like calling yngvie malmsteen Shred.

(although yngvie malmsteen can basically be reduced to his obsession with shredding)
LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
April 18 2010 18:33 GMT
#29
first song sounds 4/4 to me
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soliddew
Profile Joined April 2010
United States28 Posts
April 18 2010 18:35 GMT
#30
this thread needs more cloudkicker... not really as brutal as other "djent" bands, but still has the same polymetric feel as they do.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
April 18 2010 18:38 GMT
#31
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HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
April 18 2010 18:59 GMT
#32
Sounds good maybe not the best of the best but there is one little problem with the article...
Messugah is 4/4 but it has a polyrhythm on it.
you Can still count 1 2 3 4 in the mayority of the songs the mayority of the time.
The thing that makes meshuggah awsome is that. You can move your head in 4/4 while a 16/32 plus something else plus something else beat adds up to 4/4.

FYI the only thing i listen metal related is Meshuggah everything else seems too predictable.. but hey i do like Iron maiden and such.. this seems more Hardcore some suff like that. Hope some Proleague matches use this music its a bit better than the current songs...
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Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 19:06:09
April 18 2010 19:04 GMT
#33
I like Bleed by Meshugga, but honestly after awhile all I hear is
triplet-and triplet-and triplet-and triplet-and.

These songs take right hand endurance and control to play, but are rather boring in the left hand department.
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Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2751 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 19:13:38
April 18 2010 19:05 GMT
#34
First youtube kicks off in 4/4. By the way. And most bands use a less revolutionairy instrument called "bass" to reach tones one octave lower than standard guitar E.

Other stuff sounds like mathrock to me.

I wouldn't have started listening and I really like the tubes you post, but wtf djent? I'm not gonna use another musical genre name when the current once suffice.

I also agree with the poster above me, it's awesome when you can just bang your head 4/4 no matter what crazy shit they play. Groove above all.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
April 18 2010 19:14 GMT
#35
I gotta give it to that Tosin Abasi fella, he's pretty talented.

I find all these rhythm changes a bit annoying after a while, but in small doses they're fine.
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Hollow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Canada2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 19:37:28
April 18 2010 19:29 GMT
#36
I used to be into all those bands. I hate to use the term, but it's entry-level heavy music, Meshuggah included. It's actually the most accessible stuff in what should be an inaccessible genre. I'm referring to the more 'extreme' branch of Metal of course. This might sound like some of the most intense stuff in Metal, but it really isn't. There is a lot of technical complexity, but the music doesn't flow and lacks originality. It's also always over-produced. This was fine when Meshuggah did it, because they had this whole nihilistic/apocalyptic thing going and we could safely say that it fit perfectly with their themes and philosophical views. They were the only ones who sounded like this, so they were original. None of the other bands are. I've overplayed this stuff for about a year before realizing how empty it actually is of any originality. It's really bland. I can't feel any emotion when I listen to it -- at all.

This is why it has the potential to be huge, because it appeals to the masses. If I listen to metal, I want to be challenged, not feel comfortable and part of some trend. Just my 2 cents.

This is original and extreme, just for contrast's sake.



tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
April 18 2010 19:35 GMT
#37
Demetori, one of the best Touhou music groups, used some of these 8-stringed monstrosities on their last release, Nada Upasana Pundarika. They're typically used on the album in a more "chug" way than "djent", but I thought it would be worth sharing regardless. Touhou music is by nature more melodically inclined than this stuff, and this is a rather interesting take on the extreme riffing these 8-stringers can provide.

N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
April 18 2010 19:38 GMT
#38
These last two songs are right up my alley. Is it weird that I just listen to a lot of metal for the pure noise aspect? I just enjoy the sounds and vocals count higher for me than anything else. I'm just amazed by the ability of these men to make some of those inhuman sounds. xD

Briiiiiiiiiiiiii brii bri bri
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tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
April 18 2010 19:45 GMT
#39
On April 19 2010 04:05 Navane wrote:
And most bands use a less revolutionairy instrument called "bass" to reach tones one octave lower than standard guitar E.



You try making a bass sound like one of these guitars - it just doesn't work x.x
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
April 18 2010 20:34 GMT
#40
On April 19 2010 04:29 Hollow wrote:
I used to be into all those bands. I hate to use the term, but it's entry-level heavy music, Meshuggah included. It's actually the most accessible stuff in what should be an inaccessible genre. I'm referring to the more 'extreme' branch of Metal of course. This might sound like some of the most intense stuff in Metal, but it really isn't. There is a lot of technical complexity, but the music doesn't flow and lacks originality. It's also always over-produced. This was fine when Meshuggah did it, because they had this whole nihilistic/apocalyptic thing going and we could safely say that it fit perfectly with their themes and philosophical views. They were the only ones who sounded like this, so they were original. None of the other bands are. I've overplayed this stuff for about a year before realizing how empty it actually is of any originality. It's really bland. I can't feel any emotion when I listen to it -- at all.

This is why it has the potential to be huge, because it appeals to the masses. If I listen to metal, I want to be challenged, not feel comfortable and part of some trend. Just my 2 cents.

This is original and extreme, just for contrast's sake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2rwLJyNE9A&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viPMwmLuKB4


Wow. I really really like the first song there. Great post btw.
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