EPTsomewhere between nu-metal and bad pop oriented Tool bands.
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
somewhere between nu-metal and bad pop oriented Tool bands. | ||
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soliddew
United States28 Posts
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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Hollow
Canada2180 Posts
On April 19 2010 05:34 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Wow. I really really like the first song there. Great post btw. Yeah, it feels like I'm playing Portal, Immolation and Lykathea Aflame all mixed together along with something that I can't ever put my finger on-- which must be a result of divine inspiration. :D | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
Death metal is pretty technical indeed. | ||
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DexterHGTourney
United States17 Posts
I also echo Hollow, even though I'm more of a Black Metal guy. Anyways, I just can't stand the clean vocals so this is a no-go for me, and the repetition is a turn off. Also, you better hope your favorite genre stays mostly "under-ground" or it becomes a complete and total sell-out and turns poppy in no time. How we went from Chuck to now....I have no clue: Oh well. Well, thats just my perspective. Ciao. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17732 Posts
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
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Navane
Netherlands2749 Posts
On April 19 2010 05:43 soliddew wrote: A lot of people in this thread have been saying its a polyrhythm, but i think the more appropriate term is a polymeter. most of meshuggah's music is built in polymeter, which means that while the music is in 4/4, the main riff is not in 4/4. the polymeter between the non 4/4 and the 4/4 is created by the snare and generally the cymbals. so while there are polyrhythms in meshuggah's music, they are quite different from the rarer polymeter. Can you elaborate on this? It sounds very interesting. I was once in a band were the guitars played 4 times a 5/4 measure riff, and the drums just went straight 4/4, but for 5 measures so in the end it was all even. Whats that called? And can you define polyrythm? And "he polymeter between the non 4/4 and the 4/4 is created by the snare and generally the cymbals." I don't get that? | ||
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soliddew
United States28 Posts
On April 19 2010 07:13 Navane wrote: Can you elaborate on this? It sounds very interesting. I was once in a band were the guitars played 4 times a 5/4 measure riff, and the drums just went straight 4/4, but for 5 measures so in the end it was all even. Whats that called? And can you define polyrythm? And "he polymeter between the non 4/4 and the 4/4 is created by the snare and generally the cymbals." I don't get that? your first example is a exactly what a polymeter is. its like take the GCF of two different time signatures and making it so that they eventually line back up. 4/4 for 5 measures is 20 beats, and 5/4 for 4 measures is 20 beats. but if your drums were not playing in 4/4 and in 5/4 instead, there would be no polymeter as there would be no two different simultaneous time signatures, and it would just be in 5/4. polyrhythm is kind of the same idea, just on a different scale. ex, triplets against eighth notes or 16th notes against triplets. if you play them at the same time, that is called a polyrhythm. the main goal of "djent" is to create a groove based around a cyclical rhythm/riff, but will generally total up to 4/4 in terms of beats. sure, you can count Periphery's Icarus Lives in 4/4, but you'll notice that the riff does NOT start again on beat 1, and it repeats OVER the bar. This is because the rhythm they are playing is either longer OR shorter than 4/4. However, the groove is still felt in 4, and the snare and cymbals are also in 4. meshuggah said it themselves: they do not count the time signature they are playing, they feel the polymetric groove they create. therefore, On April 19 2010 01:52 Quesadilla wrote: 4/4 timing is not welcome. by the OP is quite wrong. Meshuggah almost always plays in 4/4. Go listen or read to an interview, they say it them selves. almost every djent band does play in 4/4, but keeps a polymetric feel via the guitar riffs. | ||
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Quesadilla
United States1814 Posts
Tosin Abasi is using what, 15/24, 7/8, and 4/4 in 3 parts of one complete riff? | ||
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Katkishka
United States657 Posts
On April 19 2010 02:33 ZZangDreamjOy wrote: LOL. Wow. Djent is a horrible genre if all it is is a bunch of bands ripping off Meshuggah, who are terribly boring in their own right. Oh wow, their so technical, they have 8 string guitars and play polyrhythms at weird time signatures. Too bad most of them can't create a compelling song to save their lives. Bornig metal, for snobby metalheads who think that they are somehow special or intelligent for enjoying it. So basically this is hipster metal? | ||
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soliddew
United States28 Posts
once they start wearing ridiculous outfits, it will be. oh wait, tosin abasi. ![[image loading]](http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Girls-Shorts-500x277.jpg) who is still amazing. | ||
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sharkeyanti
United States1273 Posts
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Quesadilla
United States1814 Posts
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tirentu
Canada1257 Posts
On April 19 2010 09:18 soliddew wrote: once they start wearing ridiculous outfits, it will be. oh wait, tosin abasi. who is still amazing. This is an incredible picture. | ||
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Krowser
Canada788 Posts
On April 19 2010 09:06 Quesadilla wrote: Soliddew is actually 100% right, I just paraphrased how the guitar riffs and structures are thought of way outside of 4/4. The snare and the cymbals are the only thing that actually make this music accessible for people who aren't theory geniuses. Tosin Abasi is using what, 15/24, 7/8, and 4/4 in 3 parts of one complete riff? Thats the beauty of the meshuggah type riffs, they sound fucked up while still being in 4/4. I have to say though, I don't like Meshuggah. I really tried to appreciate it but it's too raw for me. I preffer the more recent offshoots. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
 Overall, tis good music though, I just prefer the non-djent style of progressive tech. I find this much more musically rewarding, and even significantly more rhythmically complicated. Most importantly though, i find this style of song writing more appealing. But this is just my opinion. | ||
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AnWh
Sweden220 Posts
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