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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 16 2010 01:16 GMT
#1
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This video frame grab image provided by NASA, taken in Dec. 2009, shows a Lyssianasid amphipod, which is related to a shrimp, where a NASA team lowered a video camera to get the first long look at the underbelly of an ice sheet and a curious shrimp-like creature came swimming by and then even parked itself on the cable attached to the camera. In a surprising discovery that shakes the idea of where higher life can thrive, scientists for the first time found a shrimp-like creature and a jellyfish frolicking beneath a massive Antarctic ice sheet.


Very interesting find, more evidence that life literally finds a way. Now I wonder how thick the ice is on say Europa if this means life could indeed survive in such an environment. It will also be fascinating to find out how such creatures survive and the food chain where there is no light, and is hundreds of feet beneath the ice.


WASHINGTON – In a surprising discovery about where higher life can thrive, scientists for the first time found a shrimp-like creature and a jellyfish frolicking beneath a massive Antarctic ice sheet.

Six hundred feet below the ice where no light shines, scientists had figured nothing much more than a few microbes could exist.

That's why a NASA team was surprised when they lowered a video camera to get the first long look at the underbelly of an ice sheet in Antarctica. A curious shrimp-like creature came swimming by and then parked itself on the camera's cable. Scientists also pulled up a tentacle they believe came from a foot-long jellyfish.


Source
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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
March 16 2010 01:19 GMT
#2
What are those swirls around the ice? O_o
AngryAsian
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada68 Posts
March 16 2010 01:22 GMT
#3
On March 16 2010 10:19 Kinky wrote:
What are those swirls around the ice? O_o


metal net of some sort, to keep the drilled whole stable.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 01:23:38
March 16 2010 01:22 GMT
#4
On March 16 2010 10:19 Kinky wrote:
What are those swirls around the ice? O_o


They look like some sort of special chain-link cage to keep the ice hole from collapsing.

Edit: AngryAsian beat me, but please AngryAsian fix your grammar. It's hole not whole.
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numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
March 16 2010 01:27 GMT
#5
Wow that is very cool, life in such an odd location with unfavorable conditions.
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
March 16 2010 01:29 GMT
#6
On March 16 2010 10:22 thunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2010 10:19 Kinky wrote:
What are those swirls around the ice? O_o


They look like some sort of special chain-link cage to keep the ice hole from collapsing.

Edit: AngryAsian beat me, but please AngryAsian fix your grammar. It's hole not whole.


And that's not grammer, it's spelling =D.

Interesting find, though conditions under Europa's ice sheets probably are not the same as under our ice sheets. The possiblity is still pretty cool though.
1postperday
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States45 Posts
March 16 2010 01:31 GMT
#7
SAVE THE WEIRD SHRIMP THING'S HABITAT

STOP GLOBAL WARMING
See you tomorrow
EvilSky
Profile Joined March 2006
Czech Republic548 Posts
March 16 2010 01:33 GMT
#8
mmm I wonder if its tasty :o
Gnaix
Profile Joined February 2009
United States438 Posts
March 16 2010 01:34 GMT
#9
lol, and people say there's no life on other planets when we haven't even been to most of our own in the solar system (yes I know Europa isn't a planet).
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
March 16 2010 01:35 GMT
#10
I wonder if that shrimp is millions of years old.
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Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
March 16 2010 01:36 GMT
#11
'tis a broodling
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Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
March 16 2010 01:36 GMT
#12
I wonder how much per pound for these in the local supermarket
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Khaymus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States750 Posts
March 16 2010 01:37 GMT
#13
First confirmed Zerg Larva!
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Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States479 Posts
March 16 2010 01:39 GMT
#14
That would suck to fall down that hole.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
March 16 2010 01:41 GMT
#15
On March 16 2010 10:37 Khaymus wrote:
First confirmed Zerg Larva!

If zerg are that tiny then all we have to worry about are the dog sized ultralisk comming at us
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
March 16 2010 01:43 GMT
#16
toss in a firebomb and we've got popcorn shrimp
XK ßubonic
fulmetljaket
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
482 Posts
March 16 2010 01:46 GMT
#17
On March 16 2010 10:36 Nal_rAwr wrote:
'tis a broodling

this
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 01:56:47
March 16 2010 01:55 GMT
#18
On March 16 2010 10:29 neobowman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2010 10:22 thunk wrote:
On March 16 2010 10:19 Kinky wrote:
What are those swirls around the ice? O_o


They look like some sort of special chain-link cage to keep the ice hole from collapsing.

Edit: AngryAsian beat me, but please AngryAsian fix your grammar. It's hole not whole.


Interesting find, though conditions under Europa's ice sheets probably are not the same as under our ice sheets. The possiblity is still pretty cool though.


Who knows, but it certainly is interesting. If life can survive 600 feet I would think it would have problem adapting to 700-1000ft of ice.


The thin ice model suggests that Europa's ice shell may be only a few kilometers thick. However, most planetary scientists conclude that this model considers only those topmost layers of Europa's crust which behave elastically when affected by Jupiter's tides. One example is flexure analysis, in which the moon's crust is modeled as a plane or sphere weighted and flexed by a heavy load. Models such as this suggest the outer elastic portion of the ice crust could be as thin as 200 metres (660 ft). If the ice shell of Europa is really only a few kilometers thick, this "thin ice" model would mean that regular contact of the liquid interior with the surface could occur through open ridges, causing the formation of areas of chaotic terrain.


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nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
March 16 2010 02:00 GMT
#19
I wonder how the shrimp taste. :p
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
March 16 2010 02:03 GMT
#20
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AngryAsian
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada68 Posts
March 16 2010 03:10 GMT
#21
On March 16 2010 10:22 thunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2010 10:19 Kinky wrote:
What are those swirls around the ice? O_o


They look like some sort of special chain-link cage to keep the ice hole from collapsing.

Edit: AngryAsian beat me, but please AngryAsian fix your grammar. It's hole not whole.


sometimes when you are not paying attention, you mistype. Don't be jealous that I beat you and pick on stupid things like this.
Binky1842
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States2599 Posts
March 16 2010 03:20 GMT
#22
On March 16 2010 10:22 AngryAsian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2010 10:19 Kinky wrote:
What are those swirls around the ice? O_o


metal net of some sort, to keep the drilled whole stable.

if you've ever seen ice melting underwater, or a snow bank after it's been there over a long winter. that's what that metal net is. it's just water slowly melting the ice hole to look like a net. nothing is in there except water and ice.. and that fish thing, and the cable o.o
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jonnyp
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States415 Posts
March 16 2010 03:20 GMT
#23
this is much less disappointing than the other recent "found 'life' on another planet" thread. That's pretty awesome.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
March 16 2010 03:26 GMT
#24
I combined this thread and that other thread in my head, so when I saw the shrimp, I was like, HOLY CRAP WE FOUND ALIENS.

-sigh-
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
March 16 2010 03:42 GMT
#25
this is actually very amazing.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
March 16 2010 03:46 GMT
#26
thats so aewsome

wish i studied biology or whatever is related to this awesome stuff T____T
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VTArlock
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1763 Posts
March 16 2010 03:47 GMT
#27
Wow, such an interesting find. When we find stuff like this is makes me wonder how could there possibly be no life in outer space... We keep finding life here on earth in the craziest places, like under Ice sheets and in underwater volcanoes... Theres life in space SOMEWHERE I'm sure of it

On March 16 2010 10:31 1postperday wrote:
SAVE THE WEIRD SHRIMP THING'S HABITAT

STOP GLOBAL WARMING


That was your 1 post per day...?
Why?
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
March 16 2010 03:58 GMT
#28
Attack of the shrimp people!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
March 16 2010 04:01 GMT
#29
So all those readings of the CO2 levels on the ice really are readings of the breathing levels of shrimps...
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
March 16 2010 04:02 GMT
#30
this reminds me of a book i read...

was anyone shot with ice bullets?
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StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
March 16 2010 04:03 GMT
#31
I wonder if the reason they're actually able to survive is the warmer meltwater increasing the global temperature of the glacier. Something to ponder!
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
March 16 2010 04:07 GMT
#32
well the water is warmer than the ice.. and stuff is known to live in super cold water. idk if i find it that odd , but it is pretty cool.
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
March 16 2010 04:09 GMT
#33
Well they survived an ice age who's to say they wouldn't survive under ice?
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 19:48:32
March 16 2010 19:48 GMT
#34
Does this remind anyone of the Dan Brown book Deception Point? It's strikingly similar.
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
March 16 2010 20:07 GMT
#35
Little guy must be pretty cold =[
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coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
March 16 2010 20:12 GMT
#36
On March 16 2010 10:29 neobowman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2010 10:22 thunk wrote:
On March 16 2010 10:19 Kinky wrote:
What are those swirls around the ice? O_o


They look like some sort of special chain-link cage to keep the ice hole from collapsing.

Edit: AngryAsian beat me, but please AngryAsian fix your grammar. It's hole not whole.


And that's not grammer, it's spelling =D.

Interesting find, though conditions under Europa's ice sheets probably are not the same as under our ice sheets. The possiblity is still pretty cool though.



Interesting thing that is actually thunk who needs to check his grammar
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DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
March 16 2010 20:15 GMT
#37
On March 16 2010 13:02 StorrZerg wrote:
this reminds me of a book i read...

was anyone shot with ice bullets?

+1

but honestly.. first thing i thought of as well
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KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1770 Posts
March 16 2010 20:41 GMT
#38
No pic of the jellyfish?
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Sapraedon
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom142 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 20:59:22
March 16 2010 20:58 GMT
#39
Life really does find a way. I remember the story of bacteria living in a nuclear reactor built for research.

Edit: Source: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,894282,00.html
yarkO
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada810 Posts
March 16 2010 21:03 GMT
#40
It's not THAT surprising, I mean the thick ice emulates thousands of feet of ocean, and some of the life they find in the deep is just mind boggling.
When you are prepared, there's no such thing as pressure.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
March 16 2010 21:05 GMT
#41
very interesting. it's truly a wonder.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
March 16 2010 21:11 GMT
#42
well extremophiles can be found in the most (previously thought) uninhabitable areas of the earth from places with ridiculous pressure (Marina Trench) , Extreme heat (deep sea vents) , extremely acidic conditions and etc.

It's a wonder, but not extremely "surprising" that life could be found in an area such as this.
cw)minsean(ru
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
March 17 2010 07:55 GMT
#43
all I could think when I read this was

"OMG NASA CAUGHT A SHRIMP!"
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 17 2010 07:58 GMT
#44
Ok where's the hatchery?
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Never.Die
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan189 Posts
March 17 2010 07:59 GMT
#45
On March 16 2010 10:37 Khaymus wrote:
First confirmed Zerg Larva!


Haha that made me lol
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
March 17 2010 08:31 GMT
#46
woa cool shit
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
March 17 2010 08:36 GMT
#47
so epic :O I wonder what else they'll find under there.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
March 17 2010 08:37 GMT
#48
whoa thats pretty amazing
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TLOBrian
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States453 Posts
May 17 2010 06:19 GMT
#49
On March 16 2010 10:41 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2010 10:37 Khaymus wrote:
First confirmed Zerg Larva!

If zerg are that tiny then all we have to worry about are the dog sized ultralisk comming at us


Do you not know zerg lore?

The zerg where tiny organisms, they were little parasites : P
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Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
May 17 2010 06:49 GMT
#50
LINKS ARE NOT WORKING FOR ME!
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Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada291 Posts
May 17 2010 07:16 GMT
#51
On May 17 2010 15:49 Sephy69 wrote:
LINKS ARE NOT WORKING FOR ME!


your comp must be teh suck
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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
May 17 2010 07:41 GMT
#52
This thread is ze olde.
Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
May 17 2010 07:59 GMT
#53
On March 17 2010 06:05 OneOther wrote:
very interesting. it's truly a wonder.

That's what Kurt Russell and his crew of scientists thought first about The Thing before it turned out to be a shape-shifting alien who wants to kill all of them..
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
May 17 2010 08:10 GMT
#54
On March 16 2010 10:27 numLoCK wrote:
Wow that is very cool, life in such an odd location with unfavorable conditions.

Just like my room
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Three
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan278 Posts
May 21 2010 01:59 GMT
#55
On May 17 2010 17:10 danbel1005 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2010 10:27 numLoCK wrote:
Wow that is very cool, life in such an odd location with unfavorable conditions.

Just like my room


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