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PlaycaLm
United States242 Posts
here is the website: http://www.captaincook.com/crowsnest.php I was just wondering what kind of attire one might wear to a 4 diamond establishment? I was thinking of doing some dark wash jeans with a blazer and pocket square with no tie... Would that be good? One of the girls was also wondering what she should wear, as our closets are usually occupied by carhartts and XTRATUFF boots. I suggested a "little black dress." But I digress.... Any helpful tips or comments appreciated! | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36373 Posts
look at the picture on this page: http://www.captaincook.com/restaurants.php thats what you should be wearing, probably not required (though it wouldn't hurt) to wear a tie + jacket, but shirt and pants, definitely seems like a nice place, have fun! | ||
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So no fek
United States3001 Posts
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stanley_
United States816 Posts
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Manifesto7
Osaka27131 Posts
After you call the restaurant to make sure you don't need a jacket and tie you want to look good. Stay away from jeans for formal dining. Even if you can get away with it at the restaurant it just looks bad. You cant go wrong with dress pants, a shirt, and a tie. Shoes are as important though. Women have much more freedom when it comes to formal dining. As long as they aren't wearing pants and tshirt they can do dress, skirt/blouse, pantsuit, etc. On September 30 2009 16:55 stanley_ wrote: how bout a wifebeater and some short shorts? reaally though you should wear a nice suit. I don't think a suit is necessary. A suit is not normally formal dining wear unless there is an event attached. Do you wear a suit to a nice dinner after a concert? Sure. After a job interview? Sure. After a wedding? Sure. But on a date? Not so much imo. On September 30 2009 16:51 So no fek wrote: I'm going to a nice place tomorrow night myself, and unfortunately don't have any decent slacks. Do you think a nice pair of jeans with a tucked shirt (and maybe tie) would be acceptable? Jeans send a certain message. Sometimes that message is "I don't own real pants". I am sure you will look fine, but investing in a pair of "go to" pants is never a bad idea. | ||
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So no fek
United States3001 Posts
On September 30 2009 16:56 Manifesto7 wrote: Just call them and find out if there is a dress code. From the images on the site it looks like a jacket and tie place, but it is also Alaska. If Sarah Palin taught me anything it is that while snowmobiles are certainly not, ties may be optional. After you call the restaurant to make sure you don't need a jacket and tie you want to look good. Stay away from jeans for formal dining. Even if you can get away with it at the restaurant it just looks bad. You cant go wrong with dress pants, a shirt, and a tie. Shoes are as important though. Women have much more freedom when it comes to formal dining. As long as they aren't wearing pants and tshirt they can do dress, skirt/blouse, pantsuit, etc. I don't think a suit is necessary. A suit is not normally formal dining wear unless there is an event attached. Do you wear a suit to a nice dinner after a concert? Sure. After a job interview? Sure. After a wedding? Sure. But on a date? Not so much imo. Jeans send a certain message. Sometimes that message is "I don't own real pants". I am sure you will look fine, but investing in a pair of "go to" pants is never a bad idea. Going out to dinner tomorrow night was a bit of a spur of the moment thing, but I'll definitely look into getting a good pair of pants in the future. I checked my closet and I do have a pair of dress pants, but they don't fit as well as a good pair of jeans, and also have one of those stretchable waist bands, so I'm not sure if I should go with those, or with the jeans. As far as the restaurant goes, I've been doing whatever research I can. The attire is listed as business casual, so I should be fine without a tie. On review sites, they say there isn't a very strict dress code, but most of the comments were from 2006/7, so they might have gotten a bit stricter since then. I'll just see how the slacks look on me, and only go to the jeans if absolutely necessary. As a side note, I'm a bit excited, the restaurant is a steakhouse called N9NE, and it's apparently a bit of a celebrity hangout (not that I care much). | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27131 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
Good luck! | ||
Waxangel
United States33152 Posts
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PlaycaLm
United States242 Posts
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PlaycaLm
United States242 Posts
On September 30 2009 17:08 MYM.Testie wrote: Tell the ladies to ditch the other guy and you'll wear them both at the same time. It will go over well, I promise. Good luck! This is funny because it was the girl hes going with asking me questions such as "do you have a girlfriend?" and laying on my bed with her shirt off. rofl | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10628 Posts
I don't even own a suit or a tie and I'm 26... My friends also at max own 1 for funerals and stuff like this. But I don't know, this stuff can varies pretty hard from country to country. I was in Ireland and i was pretty shocked... During the day girls look or actually are still unwashed wearing their sleeping or sport clothes and in the evening they dress up like sluts. Horrible, it's kinda similar for guys (but it does not jump you into the eye like it does for girls)... Oh, NEVER wear a wifebeater... That’s like Instantfail. I would go for something a bit like this (if jeans or cloth pants really doesn't matter as long as it fits): http://www.fm-siebdruck.de/catalog/images/787_00.jpg | ||
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PlaycaLm
United States242 Posts
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
You potentially could get away with a really really good pair of jeans, but you will need a dress shirt, and a nice jacket. Or a tie. Whenever I take a girl out to a fine dining restaurant though, its normally some of the best clothes i can find that I wear, and the girl is normally in a really nice dress. Fine dining is upscale food, and so you should be at least appearing to be part of the regular client base. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
for god sake don't wear a tie to a date. | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
i thought i was like the only TL'er from anchorage. umm i personally haven't been there but i've heard it is amazing. as far as the clothing suggestions the advice given here seems about right. | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27131 Posts
On September 30 2009 17:54 haduken wrote: just wear smart casual with a good shoe. for god sake don't wear a tie to a date. Right, unless the restaurant requires it as was already said. | ||
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PlaycaLm
United States242 Posts
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
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jfazz
Australia672 Posts
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PlaycaLm
United States242 Posts
i love fancy eating places. too bad i'm poor as fuck! come to think of it i own exactly 1 collared shirt and no formal pants or shoes, so i guess i wouldn't be able to go anyway. have fun! the % chance of getting laid is directly proportional to how much money you spend on a girl (source: SCIENCE). you're gonna be great! Oh I'm definitely not worried about that. | ||
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chongu
Malaysia2584 Posts
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Alizee-
United States845 Posts
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SnowFantasy
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PlaycaLm
United States242 Posts
On September 30 2009 20:26 Alizee- wrote: How can you not know what to wear to nice places if you made it into your 20s? Guess I was raised differently. Yeah I've never really been to a *nice* restaurant in my life. A lot of TL'ers live in bigger metropolitan areas in the united states / europe / asia where there are plenty of fine dining places. Thats why I was seeing if people with experience with this knew weather a suit might be over the top, etc. I think I should just call them as meph said earlier. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
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PlaycaLm
United States242 Posts
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
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Netherlands103 Posts
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Ragnorak
Australia54 Posts
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
On September 30 2009 20:51 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n42/lustreboy/it-clown.jpg) | ||
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yooh
China223 Posts
yooh kno, for most of the time, they dont even let guys wear jeans at clubs... don't wear jeans!!! and wear a dress shirt with no tie if you're really not into the formal look. chuck bass from gossip girls should be your inspiration | ||
pachi
Melbourne5338 Posts
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
if you underdress though, you just look like an idiot  | ||
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
if you want to go dressy-casual you can always go for a sportscoat over a polo/button down and nice jeans. | ||
thedeadhaji
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
On September 30 2009 19:01 PlaycaLm wrote: heres a good example of what i think i might be going for. He looks retarded. At least Semi retarded sorry. Just remove the suit and he's good to go. You can even retire the pull (spelling ?) but i don't know how the weather is like in Alaska, so that could be kinda weird to not wear it. But definitely not a suit with this jean. Hell no. | ||
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LaughingTulkas
United States1107 Posts
I also don't think you'd be wrong to wear a tie to a nice place like this, and chicks dig a man who can dress up. But if you can't bring yourself to wear one, going without is fine. FWIW, I wore a suit and tie to a first date at a fancy restaurant and now we're engaged and getting married next June. :D | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On September 30 2009 20:48 PlaycaLm wrote: Yeah I've never really been to a *nice* restaurant in my life. A lot of TL'ers live in bigger metropolitan areas in the united states / europe / asia where there are plenty of fine dining places. Thats why I was seeing if people with experience with this knew weather a suit might be over the top, etc. I think I should just call them as meph said earlier. Well, I live in LA now (I'm from Manila) and have been to a few fancy restaurants. I guess people here are more casual since normal pants, polo shirt are fine for almost all of them. Even the fancy steakhouses doesn't need business casual. The only one I remember that requires more is the Crustacean. It's business casual but khaki, dress shoes and dress shirt is fine. I think I've even used polo shirt to go there. | ||
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TS-Rupbar
Sweden1089 Posts
EDIT: Dress in your own style. Originality is stylish. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36373 Posts
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Starparty
Sweden1963 Posts
On September 30 2009 16:56 Manifesto7 wrote: Just call them and find out if there is a dress code. From the images on the site it looks like a jacket and tie place, but it is also Alaska. If Sarah Palin taught me anything it is that while snowmobiles are certainly not, ties may be optional. After you call the restaurant to make sure you don't need a jacket and tie you want to look good. Stay away from jeans for formal dining. Even if you can get away with it at the restaurant it just looks bad. You cant go wrong with dress pants, a shirt, and a tie. Shoes are as important though. Women have much more freedom when it comes to formal dining. As long as they aren't wearing pants and tshirt they can do dress, skirt/blouse, pantsuit, etc. I don't think a suit is necessary. A suit is not normally formal dining wear unless there is an event attached. Do you wear a suit to a nice dinner after a concert? Sure. After a job interview? Sure. After a wedding? Sure. But on a date? Not so much imo. Jeans send a certain message. Sometimes that message is "I don't own real pants". I am sure you will look fine, but investing in a pair of "go to" pants is never a bad idea. it really depends on the jeans though. A pair of goodlooking jeans will take you far, as long as they are of good quality and fits you well. As for dress pants and shirt, sure, but dont wear a tie unless you wear a jacket too. If you go with that setup without a jacket the outfit looks just halfway, but that is my own opinion. Tbh, at a date like this i would go in my dark pair of tiger jeans with a nice looking belt, my tiger shoes, a white shirt (outside) the pants - just make sure it is cut as a "wear-outside-the-pants"-shirt. its usually defined wether the bottom of the shirt is cut straight or not. Straight = inside the pants. If its cold (alaska) it wear my coat to that. Also that - dont forget about the shoes. Wearing a nice suit will do absolutelly nothing if you cant back it up with a good looking pair of shoes... + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://images.tradera.com/292/86020292_1.jpg) The shoes ![[image loading]](http://images.bubbleroom.se/data/used/thumb-600/tiger-of-sweden-jeans-tiger-7373.jpg) The jeans ![[image loading]](http://minore.blogg.se/images/dddddddddddddd_1176065689.jpg) The belt ![[image loading]](http://img.kelkoo.com/se/medium/564/006/0026482159854546174551189361391993006564.jpg) The shirt (color doesnt matter, just make sure u like it) ![[image loading]](http://www.pastan.nu/sharedmedia/pastan/blog/27/18/78/102/20080401/Jonas_webb.jpg) The coat But as Mani said. CHECK THE DRESSCODE AT THE RESTAURANT FIRST! No matter how good your jeans look, they wont let you in if the have a dresscode that says otherwise. Edit: Final note - regardless of what people have written here, make sure you are comfortable in what youre wearing and that you too think it looks good. Otherwise it will shine through and it will make you less appealing  | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On October 01 2009 01:05 Hot_Bid wrote: its funny how your opinion about formal clothing changes after a billion job interviews and several summers forced to wear full suits. now, i don't even feel different in a shirt and tie. This was the best side effect of my high school forcing use to wear suits every day for 5 years. 100% comfort in any formal clothing. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On September 30 2009 16:49 Hot_Bid wrote: at minimum pants and a shirt look at the picture on this page: http://www.captaincook.com/restaurants.php thats what you should be wearing, probably not required (though it wouldn't hurt) to wear a tie + jacket, but shirt and pants, definitely seems like a nice place, have fun! He means the outfit the girl behind the guy in the blue shirt, what she is wearing definitely. | ||
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BeJe77
United States377 Posts
Judging by the pics at the front page and what not it does look like it might be a dress type attire... Wear nice dress pants + shirt and some nice shoes w/belt and you will be good... It's always good to make an impression on the ladies dude, wearing jeans and what not to classy place certainly don't make it | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32035 Posts
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FuDDx
United States5007 Posts
Ok just checked we have a few other than the above mentioned place Acacia (2) there are also Janos (6) Anthony in the Catalinas (3) Arizona Inn's main dining room (1) Primo (2) and The Gold Room (13) The number after the restaurants are how many years in a row they have had the 4 diamond rating. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14892 Posts
On October 01 2009 01:05 Hot_Bid wrote: its funny how your opinion about formal clothing changes after a billion job interviews and several summers forced to wear full suits. now, i don't even feel different in a shirt and tie. yea i felt this way after high school, dressing up was a tux, regular clothes was khakis and a dress shirt/tie | ||
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Zalfor
United States1035 Posts
i remember i went to one in shorts and a black t-shirt. everyone looked at me weird. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
Typically, business casual should be sufficient for most restaurants -- collared button-down shirt with pants (no jeans) and shoes (no sneakers), bring a jacket just in case. Hope you have a good time | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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omninmo
2349 Posts
Jacket: Top Button only. Undo when you sit down Tie: Optional, if you think you will look/feel awkward in a tie then don't go for it Shirt: With a Collar and tucked into ... Pants: Matching the jacket. Iron/Press them beforehand Belt: Yes. Nothing stupid with big and shiny belt buckle. It should not draw attention Shoes: Loafers will not do for dinner. Find some nice Black dress shoes with laces. Socks: do not wear white atheletic socks. black or dark navy is proper. Remove all wrist jewelry, hemp necklaces, timex watches etc. I suggest a black jacket with matching pants. Single breasted black dinner coat. White collared shirt sans undershirt (perhaps wife-beater if u sweat) top button undone. If you unbutton the top 2 you will appear a tad too cheesy. black shoes black socks | ||
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PlaycaLm
United States242 Posts
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bellweather
United States404 Posts
On October 01 2009 04:21 PlaycaLm wrote: Just got off the phone with them, business casual it is. jeans are OUT Guess it's time to buy some better fitting pants | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
On the other hand I wear a wife beater when I play starcraft. | ||
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
On October 01 2009 04:49 Eatme wrote: I always wear chino pants or dress pants mainly since they are waay more confortable than jeans. On the other hand I wear a wife beater when I play starcraft. Hm. I guess me never really having to dress up at all as a kid has a different effect. I don't feel natural or comfortable enough to wear dress pants regularly, it's just odd. I do, however, pretty much always wear jeans and a dress shirt, so it could be worse. | ||
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
This goes for everything, not just funerals. If you are under dressed, you look dumb. If you are overdressed, you look like you work for govornment/law firm/important poeple and just got off work. This is much better than dumb. On the other hand, if you dress up too much on a date, you risk looking uptight and making your date feel inadequately dressed. Good luck. | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
On October 01 2009 04:56 Valentine wrote: Hm. I guess me never really having to dress up at all as a kid has a different effect. I don't feel natural or comfortable enough to wear dress pants regularly, it's just odd. I do, however, pretty much always wear jeans and a dress shirt, so it could be worse. I usually wore jeans and t-shirts until I was ~16. But then I started to dress a bit nicer for some reason I dont really remember, most likely my sister was involved somehow. Anyway I noticed that the pants was really comfy so I got a few more and now I rarely wear jeans. So not dressing up as a kid did not affect me. | ||
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kidd
United States2848 Posts
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itzme_petey
United States1400 Posts
On October 01 2009 00:39 RaiZ wrote: He looks retarded. At least Semi retarded sorry. Just remove the suit and he's good to go. You can even retire the pull (spelling ?) but i don't know how the weather is like in Alaska, so that could be kinda weird to not wear it. But definitely not a suit with this jean. Hell no. I don't think its retarded. The fit of the clothes is spot on and looks elegant though a bit stuffy. By suit, do you mean blazer or jacket? As a 20 year old, dont wear a full suit if it is a casual date. Also, do not wear slacks with mismatched blazer, only older gentlemen can pull off that look. A slim dark pair of jeans (just realized you have to wear slacks) with a darker dress shirt (not black). You can wear a tie only if it is relatively slim and not a business tie thats like 4" wide. | ||
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Tom Phoenix
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Besides, the girls you two are going out with do not seem to know what to wear either. As such, even if you end up making what would normally be an akward choice, they will probably be a little more forgiving about it. | ||
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bellweather
United States404 Posts
On October 01 2009 05:15 kidd wrote: I think a lot of people are not realizing just how nice a 4 diamond restaurant is. I would say slacks are definately a must and a nice dress shirt or something would be the right thing to wear. Although their dress code may say otherwise you might look weird walking into a restaurant like that wearing jeans. Four diamond as rated by what organization? No one here, except those really into restaurants/critics/etc is fit to judge how "nice" it is. There's a difference between Michelin stars and diamonds. | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
Second think about what they would like to see you wear. What type of women are they? Would they prefer that washed pair of jeans or maybe a suit? I generally go with high end dark jeans, dress shirt and blazer, its casual but still dressed up and stylish. But like I said find out what they want. Third think about your shoes. If you don't own a decent pair of dress shoes buy them. If you decide on a relaxed look, get a really nice pair of leather sneakers to go with it, and for God's sake don't use them for everyday wear, they will only look decent like 5-10 times. Make them count. Best of luck! | ||
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uNcontroLable
United States1180 Posts
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uiCk
Canada1925 Posts
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dekuschrub
United States2069 Posts
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United States3249 Posts
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praetor.at
Austria92 Posts
On October 01 2009 01:25 GreEny K wrote: He means the outfit the girl behind the guy in the blue shirt, what she is wearing definitely. she's on her own, as it seems. too bad its not real. | ||
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t_co
United States702 Posts
On September 30 2009 17:04 So no fek wrote: Going out to dinner tomorrow night was a bit of a spur of the moment thing, but I'll definitely look into getting a good pair of pants in the future. I checked my closet and I do have a pair of dress pants, but they don't fit as well as a good pair of jeans, and also have one of those stretchable waist bands, so I'm not sure if I should go with those, or with the jeans. As far as the restaurant goes, I've been doing whatever research I can. The attire is listed as business casual, so I should be fine without a tie. On review sites, they say there isn't a very strict dress code, but most of the comments were from 2006/7, so they might have gotten a bit stricter since then. I'll just see how the slacks look on me, and only go to the jeans if absolutely necessary. As a side note, I'm a bit excited, the restaurant is a steakhouse called N9NE, and it's apparently a bit of a celebrity hangout (not that I care much). N9NE is great, you have good taste--but it's best with a large group. In that case, you have more wiggle room, as the general rule is that while two sloppy people will stand out in a restaurant, ten casual (but not too casual) people will fit right by virtue of numbers. As for the reason that N9NE is great with a large group, it's because the menu has a lot of expensive items that lend themselves to sharing. Try the caviar or the filet--you can't go wrong and the N9NE guys in Chicago were absolutely fantastic. Me and this other analyst on my floor used to go there all the time when we were working in Chicago (but back then we could expense the dinners lol.) | ||
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Failsafe
United States1298 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On October 01 2009 05:15 kidd wrote: I think a lot of people are not realizing just how nice a 4 diamond restaurant is. I would say slacks are definately a must and a nice dress shirt or something would be the right thing to wear. Although their dress code may say otherwise you might look weird walking into a restaurant like that wearing jeans. It largely depends on the restaurant. I went to Jean Georges in jeans (nice jeans, but still jeans); and Jean Georges is a 5-diamond restaurant. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On October 01 2009 06:22 InsideTheBox wrote: Four diamond as rated by what organization? No one here, except those really into restaurants/critics/etc is fit to judge how "nice" it is. There's a difference between Michelin stars and diamonds. rated by AAA, not that prestigious. Zagat and Michelin are arguably the authorities of restaurant reviews/ratings. A Michelin 3 star is probably more prestigious than a 5-diamond. | ||
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Probe.
United States877 Posts
But seriously Manifestos advice is the best so far. Stay away from jeans. And wear a nice shirt and a some slacks, and nice shoes. No tie required no jacket required. (unless restaurant says otherwise) | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
On October 01 2009 10:31 Cambium wrote: It largely depends on the restaurant. I went to Jean Georges in jeans (nice jeans, but still jeans); and Jean Georges is a 5-diamond restaurant. Wow, what an attention whore. | ||
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Pieguy314
Canada262 Posts
For pants I just wear some nice jeans, and for my shoes I just wear my Chuck Taylors (black) . | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On September 30 2009 16:49 Hot_Bid wrote: at minimum pants and a shirt look at the picture on this page: http://www.captaincook.com/restaurants.php thats what you should be wearing, probably not required (though it wouldn't hurt) to wear a tie + jacket, but shirt and pants, definitely seems like a nice place, have fun! I lol'd at the facial expression of the guy in the grey shirt in back of the picture. ^________^ | ||
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