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ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
April 11 2010 07:20 GMT
#2641
i wonder who will receive the ballon'd or this year if barca wins CL, and La Liga.
prolly gonna think twice before giving the award to messi since he already won it last year and he can win many more in the future considering his age
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 11 2010 09:49 GMT
#2642
On April 11 2010 16:20 ilj.psa wrote:
i wonder who will receive the ballon'd or this year if barca wins CL, and La Liga.
prolly gonna think twice before giving the award to messi since he already won it last year and he can win many more in the future considering his age


club accomplishments dont count much in a world cup year
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
UbRi
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Italy603 Posts
April 11 2010 10:36 GMT
#2643
Am I the only one who thinks that yesterday cristiano ronaldo played better than messi? (not saying he's better, messi is by far the best, just talking about yesterday)
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
April 11 2010 11:25 GMT
#2644
On April 11 2010 19:36 UbRi wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that yesterday cristiano ronaldo played better than messi? (not saying he's better, messi is by far the best, just talking about yesterday)

I think the problem with "best player" is it doesn't take into account that football is very much a team game.

Messi was the best striker. His control in the box is probably the best of any player ever, it's simply amazing. He links up beautifully and of course can dribble round people
Ronaldo was undoubtedly the best winger in that game. His pace is ridiculous and he goes past players for fun.
But then Xavi plays the midfield role like a God, he's like almost untouchable.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 11 2010 15:29 GMT
#2645
ManUtd surely showed they are a one man team these past weeks.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
April 11 2010 15:33 GMT
#2646
i bet Holgerius is already drunk
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
April 11 2010 15:55 GMT
#2647
Fulham hold on to a 0-0 draw with Liverpool at Anfield. Hopefully Dempsey will be back soon! This pretty much ensures Liverpool won't finish with 4th and get a champions league spot.
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
April 11 2010 15:58 GMT
#2648
On April 12 2010 00:29 SuperArc wrote:
ManUtd surely showed they are a one man team these past weeks.


More like Berbatov couldn't score if his life depended on it.
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AngryLlama
Profile Joined September 2005
United States1227 Posts
April 11 2010 16:24 GMT
#2649
On April 11 2010 06:57 SuperArc wrote:
Messi is not even close to the world's best player.

His Barca teammate is the real one.


Do even watch Barca games? How can you not see the splendid talent oozing from Messi...

Seriously, you honestly think Xavi is better than Messi? Are you that delusional?
AngryLlama
Profile Joined September 2005
United States1227 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 16:28:19
April 11 2010 16:27 GMT
#2650
On April 11 2010 20:25 Klive5ive wrote:
But then Xavi plays the midfield role like a God, he's like almost untouchable.


qft
what a great gift xavi is seriously for barca, honestly, Xavi amazes the shit out of me man. He needs so little space in the midfield, yet he can go in ANY direction. He can swirl and twirl and cut and curve his body in any direction and set up the perfect pass toward goal or play it back to the safest barca defender to once again keep the Barca machine working. Seriously, he like NEVER messes up. It's truly unreal. best midfielder in the world by far imo...
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 11 2010 16:38 GMT
#2651
On April 12 2010 00:33 BeaTeR wrote:
i bet Holgerius is already drunk

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Man, if anyone had told me after the horrible start of this season that Roma would be leading Serie A with 5 games to go I would've questioned his sanity. This is amazing! Roma played super well in the first half (Totti's nutmeg and assist to the second goal was great :D), but almost threw it away in the second. It got a little to close for comfort. 3 points in the end though! Yay! Huge thanks to Fiorentina for making this possible! <3

Totti's status in Roma is quite funny; he was going to get substituted (the assistant ref even showed his number on that board), so he runs over to the line and says a few words, runs back out on the pitch and a minute later Menez gets subbed out. XD

Next weeks game will be amazing! Roma vs Lazio, which is normally one of the hottest games in the world, will get a lot of additional spice due to the intruiging situation; Roma are fighting for the gold and Lazio are fighting for their survival in Serie A. Heaven/Hell. Seriously, even anglophiles should watch it! I'm already nervous as fuck.

Messi is the best forward in the world, Xavi is the best midfielder. They are incredibely different from each other have completely different roles and it's a matter of definition and personal preference who you consider to be the overall #1, but in my book Messi is ahead by quite a bit. I love Xavi though, playmakers FTW!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
April 11 2010 16:42 GMT
#2652
The funny thing about Xavi is that some people think Iniesta is more talented.. just shows how Barca are from another planet. Barca need to snatch Torres LOL
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 11 2010 16:58 GMT
#2653
On April 12 2010 01:24 AngryLlama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2010 06:57 SuperArc wrote:
Messi is not even close to the world's best player.

His Barca teammate is the real one.


Do even watch Barca games? How can you not see the splendid talent oozing from Messi...

Seriously, you honestly think Xavi is better than Messi? Are you that delusional?


I see Messi score goals yes.
But without Xavi the mid field would be overrun and the other team would score even more goals.

Xavi is way more important to Barca than Messi is.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 11 2010 17:18 GMT
#2654
I swear I'm gonna stop watching football next season if Berbatov is not shipped off.
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
April 11 2010 17:35 GMT
#2655
as soon as I saw that Roma is number one, I came here to see Holgerius's post
I have to say it's pretty bias free and there is not as much jubilance as I expected
I am a little disappointed
AngryLlama
Profile Joined September 2005
United States1227 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 18:15:51
April 11 2010 17:56 GMT
#2656
On April 12 2010 01:58 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 01:24 AngryLlama wrote:
On April 11 2010 06:57 SuperArc wrote:
Messi is not even close to the world's best player.

His Barca teammate is the real one.


Do even watch Barca games? How can you not see the splendid talent oozing from Messi...

Seriously, you honestly think Xavi is better than Messi? Are you that delusional?


I see Messi score goals yes.
But without Xavi the mid field would be overrun and the other team would score even more goals.

Xavi is way more important to Barca than Messi is.


messi (and iniesta) ((and sort of busquets now)) can pretty much do what xavi does. That is, move the ball around with fluidity and vision. Of course Xavi is the daddy when it comes to this though, i'm not taking anything away from him...

however, xavi can never in a million years do what messi does...

i can understand how some believe that a player like xavi would be more instrumental in a team. but let's face it, it's 10x more easier to make a sick amazing through ball than it is to chest the ball in the box, dance around a defender and chip the keeper.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 11 2010 18:50 GMT
#2657
On April 12 2010 02:35 Sadir wrote:
as soon as I saw that Roma is number one, I came here to see Holgerius's post
I have to say it's pretty bias free and there is not as much jubilance as I expected
I am a little disappointed

5 games to go, just 1 point above. Lots of shit can happen. Gotta try my best to lay low, stay modest and not get my expectations up too much. 2 season ago, when Roma were actually at #1 with 45 minutes left to play of the entire season yet lost in the end, I started celebrating to early and got crushed with disappointment when Inter won the title. I do not want to experience that again. I have a good feeling though, this could be the year! :D

Sometimes I wonder why I care so much about a fucking football club (especially when things go bad XD), it's quite unlogical to feel so passionately about something that's so irrelevant when you put it into perspective. But days like this shows me why and it makes it all worth it. Natural high FTW! It's both a gift and a curse to root for a team so deeply, to be so emotionally tied to them and have my happiness depend on their success.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Pape
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Serbia419 Posts
April 11 2010 19:38 GMT
#2658
Man U without Rooney and Vidic at the same time would be fighting to stay alive away from the relegation zone.

As for the Barca battle, Messi's teamates call him the god of football, so because Xavi had one exceptional match does not make him greater than Messi when even he calls Messi a football god. And I wouldn't call Messi a striker, he is more of a attacking winger, because you can't deny his ball distributing skills in the middle of the field.
good luck have fun!
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 20:10:10
April 11 2010 20:06 GMT
#2659
On April 12 2010 01:42 Fzero wrote:
The funny thing about Xavi is that some people think Iniesta is more talented.. just shows how Barca are from another planet. Barca need to snatch Torres LOL

Iniesta is more talented imo, the thing about Xavi is how solid and instrumental he is for the team.
The guy NEVER loses the ball and ALWAYS makes the right passes, it's amazing how effective he is, unlike Iniesta who can do some beautiful tricks but from time to time he loses posession or doesn't perform too well, of course this in proportion to xavi's performance
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 11 2010 20:10 GMT
#2660
Messi's role is not easy to define these days. Against Real Madrid he most definitely did not play as a winger, yet he does not fit the mold for neither a pure striker nor a trequartista. He's simply an insanely great forward who is overall pretty well-rounded as far as the offensive aspect of the game goes.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
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