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KwarK
United States41961 Posts
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quiong
United States268 Posts
Seems like if you could make 1 billion/hr and sustain it for 40h/week you'd be making the same money as an entry level job lol. | ||
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motbob
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United States12546 Posts
On October 28 2011 07:32 quiong wrote: How much money are we talking about here ballpark? Seems like the general price of isk on some 3rd party sites is around 18-25$ per billion. Are these people making a good living IRL from being rich in EVE? Seems like if you could make 1 billion/hr and sustain it for 40h/week you'd be making the same money as an entry level job lol. RMTing is risky and RMTing trillions is perhaps impossible. | ||
quiong
United States268 Posts
On October 28 2011 07:33 motbob wrote: RMTing is risky and RMTing trillions is perhaps impossible. Doesn't stop the gold farmers in WOW. Is CCP pretty good about cracking down on this sort of thing? | ||
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KwarK
United States41961 Posts
On October 28 2011 07:35 quiong wrote: Doesn't stop the gold farmers in WOW. Is CCP pretty good about cracking down on this sort of thing? Blizzard don't literally lose subscriptions when people buy gold. CCP attempt to hold a monopoly on RMTing through their plex trading system and their rates are considerably above $18/b. | ||
pahndah
1193 Posts
On October 28 2011 07:32 quiong wrote: How much money are we talking about here ballpark? Seems like the general price of isk on some 3rd party sites is around 18-25$ per billion. Are these people making a good living IRL from being rich in EVE? Seems like if you could make 1 billion/hr and sustain it for 40h/week you'd be making the same money as an entry level job lol. Sounds like a plan. 1 billion/hour should be easy enough for a starting account to train up to. Now you just need to find a pay pal account, vpn your network so ccp doesn't catch on, make your own site to launder the money, and have enough connections that trust you enough to pay you rl cash for isk. Much easier than flipping burgers! | ||
abominare
United States1216 Posts
On October 28 2011 07:32 quiong wrote: How much money are we talking about here ballpark? Seems like the general price of isk on some 3rd party sites is around 18-25$ per billion. Are these people making a good living IRL from being rich in EVE? Seems like if you could make 1 billion/hr and sustain it for 40h/week you'd be making the same money as an entry level job lol. Two things to note, those that rmt rarely do it for a living. Those that it appeals the most to are those living in countries where wages are much lower than the us. The average monthly salary in say russia, is 750usd. Typically when westerners rmt its usually on a grand scale (legend has it that one of the NC leaders used a large portion of the goo trade to help pay down his mortgage) or as a supplement, like saying "hey I botted this month and made 200$ to buy random stuff with". It is very easy to shuffle around large amounts of isk, you just need to be creative with how you're laundering. Whether its feigning being scammed, conveniently contributing a super cap to another player, or selling a mod at a silly low price, or even feigning merc contracts. NC was notorious for having one of the largest super cap production facilities and 'selling supers' then suddenly when it came time to fight they didn't even have the money to finance battleship defense fleets against the supers that inevitably ended up in enemy hands. The speculation is that they didn't necessarily sell direct to their enemies but inevitably the rmt groups would resell their their 'discounted ship acquisition' to fill their rmt orders. | ||
pahndah
1193 Posts
On October 28 2011 08:02 abominare wrote: Two things to note, those that rmt rarely do it for a living. Those that it appeals the most to are those living in countries where wages are much lower than the us. The average monthly salary in say russia, is 750usd. Typically when westerners rmt its usually on a grand scale (legend has it that one of the NC leaders used a large portion of the goo trade to help pay down his mortgage) or as a supplement, like saying "hey I botted this month and made 200$ to buy random stuff with". It is very easy to shuffle around large amounts of isk, you just need to be creative with how you're laundering. Whether its feigning being scammed, conveniently contributing a super cap to another player, or selling a mod at a silly low price, or even feigning merc contracts. NC was notorious for having one of the largest super cap production facilities and 'selling supers' then suddenly when it came time to fight they didn't even have the money to finance battleship defense fleets against the supers that inevitably ended up in enemy hands. The speculation is that they didn't necessarily sell direct to their enemies but inevitably the rmt groups would resell their their 'discounted ship acquisition' to fill their rmt orders. Security was more lax back than, and CCP already shut down 2 of the larger(est?) RMT russian sites. But if you can pull off the RMT, more power to you. | ||
abominare
United States1216 Posts
On October 28 2011 08:09 pahndah wrote: Security was more lax back than, and CCP already shut down 2 of the larger(est?) RMT russian sites. But if you can pull off the RMT, more power to you. Agreed, its been attacked my ccp, of course you can still go through many publich channels and continually get spammed for rmt sites, suggesting they havent truly killed it. | ||
Pufftrees
2449 Posts
Does it have all 4 ships in it? | ||
DiracMonopole
United States1555 Posts
We land off the torrinos gate, they all dock up and complain we only come when their fleet is standing down. We shoot a few people, force them to jump through, then try to warp in on a drake a few times that we miss. So we start killing their bubbles. A malediction lands 300km off the gate. I land on it in my SFI. Instead of using its 0s align time to warp away, it decides to point me and burn off to like 10k. I point it back, and then it target paints me? It dies. Then two drakes who were apparently not aware that their alliance likes to keep the gate bubbled 24/7 land in the bubbles. We kill both and pod one, trading a rifter in the process. Since aeth is a bad and burned his launchers on the last drake, we decide to go back to Saranen. | ||
Byzantium
United States423 Posts
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DiracMonopole
United States1555 Posts
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Damage Control II Tracking Enhancer II Power Diagnostic System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Energy Discharge Elutriation I Gets better tracking than an artycane, even with scorch. 71+13 range, 520 dps. Goes 1756 w/o heat with 7s align time. 31k ehp with t1 resists. With mwd and all guns on, it caps out in 2 minutes 39 seconds. | ||
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motbob
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United States12546 Posts
If you already have an account, this deal lets you get half a year of playtime on a new account for 3 PLEX. I think you also get a Cerebral Accelerator. I would recommend that everyone take this deal and train up a Rhea pilot or something similar. | ||
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
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KwarK
United States41961 Posts
On October 28 2011 14:08 motbob wrote: https://secure.eveonline.com/SecondaryAccountSignup/ If you already have an account, this deal lets you get half a year of playtime on a new account for 3 PLEX. I think you also get a Cerebral Accelerator. I would recommend that everyone take this deal and train up a Rhea pilot or something similar. Will make one for my Amarr titan. | ||
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motbob
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United States12546 Posts
On October 28 2011 14:15 Antoine wrote: i got owned, literally started an alt 3 days ago Abandoning it and taking this new deal would still be the prudent course. The PLEX you spent is just a sunk cost. | ||
Inzek
Chile802 Posts
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abominare
United States1216 Posts
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DiracMonopole
United States1555 Posts
On October 28 2011 14:21 motbob wrote: Abandoning it and taking this new deal would still be the prudent course. The PLEX you spent is just a sunk cost. Sure, and I bet that minerals you mine yourself arent free. | ||
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