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Cheesedawg
Profile Joined November 2010
United States182 Posts
September 14 2011 15:29 GMT
#15541
EAF is op man I've been telling you guys forever.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19264 Posts
September 14 2011 16:10 GMT
#15542
On September 14 2011 23:15 KwarK wrote:
Gentlemen, serg1 buy orders in Jita have hit 600k. Serg3 buy orders are above 450k. The gig is up, people know about it. Seb is dying and there's nothing we can do to save it. However we are, as ever, ahead of the game and know about new, better places. My intent is to tell the world about Seb in about a week, complete with the full itemised conversion and a big "I'm richer than you" comment with an alt. To let the missionbears know what they were missing, that I've just had a big juicy steak and that they're welcome to fight over the scraps (about 1.6k isk/lp at 800k serg1 60k serg2 600k serg3) like the dogs they are. From now until then I recommend buying up all of the relevant tags you can.
Obviously there are only so many sergs in the game, they will be impossible to obtain once I make the post. I'll then release my stockpile.

Stop earning Seb LP. FB, I'll do what I can to help you but I'm afraid it's gonna be rough.

And ignore my 250k I've been telling you about for weeks? -.-
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44397 Posts
September 14 2011 16:31 GMT
#15543
On September 15 2011 01:10 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 23:15 KwarK wrote:
Gentlemen, serg1 buy orders in Jita have hit 600k. Serg3 buy orders are above 450k. The gig is up, people know about it. Seb is dying and there's nothing we can do to save it. However we are, as ever, ahead of the game and know about new, better places. My intent is to tell the world about Seb in about a week, complete with the full itemised conversion and a big "I'm richer than you" comment with an alt. To let the missionbears know what they were missing, that I've just had a big juicy steak and that they're welcome to fight over the scraps (about 1.6k isk/lp at 800k serg1 60k serg2 600k serg3) like the dogs they are. From now until then I recommend buying up all of the relevant tags you can.
Obviously there are only so many sergs in the game, they will be impossible to obtain once I make the post. I'll then release my stockpile.

Stop earning Seb LP. FB, I'll do what I can to help you but I'm afraid it's gonna be rough.

And ignore my 250k I've been telling you about for weeks? -.-

You've been buying your own tags for weeks haven't you? Stop making Seb LP.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19264 Posts
September 14 2011 16:35 GMT
#15544
I haven't run missions in days. And I told you I ran out of tags (kind). I have enough serg 2s for 2 conversions and 3s for 1, but no 1s and too much LP.
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Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
September 14 2011 16:54 GMT
#15545
Uh, could you NOT tell the world about seb?

I think Firebolt got enough shit from his video, thers nothing to gain from telling everyone. Let it be, just move on if you need.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
September 14 2011 16:58 GMT
#15546
I don't reveal who I'm missioning for in that video...?
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Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
September 14 2011 17:02 GMT
#15547
Right, but its the fact you were giving away what a lot of people were doing to make money. You DID get plenty of shit for it lol.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 17:08:00
September 14 2011 17:06 GMT
#15548
I didn't care too much tbh, too bad eve is such a selfish game sometimes
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Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
September 14 2011 17:12 GMT
#15549
Obviously you didn't care, you made a video and bumped it for a week. The people in corp calling you nasty names for a week should queue that other people DID care. Yes, EvE is 1 server, its a selfish game when it comes to money making. Personally I didn't care too much about your video, but the people yelling at you weren't saying mean mean things because they liked it.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 17:21:19
September 14 2011 17:19 GMT
#15550
You're right, does that mean I should completely disassociate myself with people that do not approve of what I do or people I do not always approve of? Does that mean I should be as selfish as some people say I should be?

The fact that I deleted my guide from the EO forums shows that actually for some reason even I don't understand I actually did care to some extent.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44397 Posts
September 14 2011 17:24 GMT
#15551
On September 15 2011 01:54 Pufftrees wrote:
Uh, could you NOT tell the world about seb?

I think Firebolt got enough shit from his video, thers nothing to gain from telling everyone. Let it be, just move on if you need.

Seb has gone to shit anyway. Within a few days it'll be below the cutoff for viability for hatchery members (we think 1k isk/lp isn't worth it) so we won't be using it. However random pubbies may disagree about the viability of 1k isk/lp and therefore buy the tags at prices so high they reduce the LP to that value. If you're holding the tags right then you can make bank.

There's nothing left in seb for us anymore because we have standards but that doesn't mean we can't sell it to those who don't.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
September 14 2011 17:30 GMT
#15552
Firebolt, this isnt about you at all, stop getting so defensive. I just used you as an example of people giving away our "secrets" on the EVE forum for no reason other then to be a hero (or brag) or in Kwarks own words "My intent is to tell the world about Seb in about a week, complete with the full itemised conversion and a big "I'm richer than you" comment with an alt.".

Theres no reason to do it, bragging or showing off to random people you have no interaction with where the only thing that may come out of it is your corp mates feel it in their own pockets... is well dumb. Seb will still be a nice steady income, if someone does legwork they will make almost 2k/lp (lets just say 1.5k/lp)... and there ISNT much leg work. So people selling now will have to spend a little extra time to get their money back. Not to mention the fact it may recover... gyro prices have been steadily going up... or you can do the blitz retarded price plan.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
September 14 2011 17:31 GMT
#15553
Your original post says 1.6k/lp at this new rate... which is more then you are paying people anyways. I agree its going downhill, just dont see why we tell people other then to brag for no reason.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 17:38:22
September 14 2011 17:36 GMT
#15554
On September 15 2011 02:31 Pufftrees wrote:
Your original post says 1.6k/lp at this new rate... which is more then you are paying people anyways. I agree its going downhill, just dont see why we tell people other then to brag for no reason.

I pay 1.5 and do all the work, 1.6 for doing all the work yourself is below hatchery viability rates. The point is not to brag (I'd be doing it on an alt), the point is to sell them tags. All that brag bullshit is part of the sale, you need to read to the end of the post.

From now until then I recommend buying up all of the relevant tags you can. Obviously there are only so many sergs in the game, they will be impossible to obtain once I make the post. I'll then release my stockpile.

It's not about letting the pubbies know we're better than them. Who cares what they think. It's about isk.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19264 Posts
September 14 2011 17:37 GMT
#15555
On September 15 2011 02:36 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 02:31 Pufftrees wrote:
Your original post says 1.6k/lp at this new rate... which is more then you are paying people anyways. I agree its going downhill, just dont see why we tell people other then to brag for no reason.

I [] do all the work

mockery
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 17:40:05
September 14 2011 17:39 GMT
#15556
edit - several posts late nvm
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Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
September 14 2011 17:48 GMT
#15557
Fair enough, I just think you over estimate the difference between 1.6k isk/lp and 2.2 or whatever. People are characters of habit, I would probably still blitz the same missions in my mach, buy tags, convert and sell to W/G for 20 percent less money. If the whole scheme is just to attack the tag market thats cool, just seems that the little guy gets pushed aside for a big tag scheme.

Again, obviously this isn't affecting my pockets directly, thanks for explaining more of your reasoning though kwark. High sec missioning that gives you over 1.5k/lp (for some leg work.. which is.. actually REALLY easy), is still viable imo is my comment, and didn't want a larger scheme to push people out of the way. I don't even know who missions for Seb anymore but its probably not more then 5 people. If I needed some money quick, I probably would.

Did I mention I have tags for 5 gyro bpcs -_- Is it worth more just to sell them you think? I have LP to make about 10 gyros myself.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44397 Posts
September 14 2011 17:52 GMT
#15558
On September 15 2011 02:48 Pufftrees wrote:
Fair enough, I just think you over estimate the difference between 1.6k isk/lp and 2.2 or whatever. People are characters of habit, I would probably still blitz the same missions in my mach, buy tags, convert and sell to W/G for 20 percent less money. If the whole scheme is just to attack the tag market thats cool, just seems that the little guy gets pushed aside for a big tag scheme.

Again, obviously this isn't affecting my pockets directly, thanks for explaining more of your reasoning though kwark. High sec missioning that gives you over 1.5k/lp (for some leg work.. which is.. actually REALLY easy), is still viable imo is my comment, and didn't want a larger scheme to push people out of the way. I don't even know who missions for Seb anymore but its probably not more then 5 people. If I needed some money quick, I probably would.

Did I mention I have tags for 5 gyro bpcs -_- Is it worth more just to sell them you think? I have LP to make about 10 gyros myself.

Buy orders in Jita for gen2s hit 2.1m earlier today. You just made big bucks by not converting your LP. I wish I'd held onto more gen2s. You'd be burning isk to make gyros out of them now. Regarding your remaining seb LP, you shouldn't have held onto it. If you want me to hold off while you clear it I'd be willing to because I'd rather not fuck you but this has been on the cards for a while now. Equally if you want to know other good hisec conversions that you can do yourself I can tell you a few (that don't involve you making me isk if that's what you're afraid of).

Seb is dying and no hatchery member should still be there because the alternatives are simply better. If we can profit from the corpse then we should do so.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
September 14 2011 17:57 GMT
#15559
Alright thanks for the info, I'll probably just hang onto the LP I guess, no reason for others to take a loss on it (plus im sure lots have LP to clear first). We sure abuses that place like some Locusts though
Chance favors the prepared mind.
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
September 14 2011 20:24 GMT
#15560
I've been out of the mission loop for a while I assume the golden ticket is still the Corp that tried to gain sov yesterday? The only thing that I truly dislike is this is enlightening new blood to the world of using bpc rather than direct item conversion that most use.

Furthermore pretty sure I was beating the pants off 1.6 with seb when I ducked in to run a few exchanges this week. Though the tag market might have changed when I scooped mine.
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