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Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
November 25 2009 04:51 GMT
#12801
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In DotA you could
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-25 04:54:19
November 25 2009 04:52 GMT
#12802
waffleimages is a piece of shit

[image loading]
In DotA you could
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-25 04:54:26
November 25 2009 04:53 GMT
#12803
Muffin-top, Australian for Love-handles which my parents' generation used to call a Spare-tire.

It's fat, people. Stop with the cute names~!

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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 25 2009 04:55 GMT
#12804
On November 25 2009 13:43 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2009 11:40 Alventenie wrote:
L, where have you been all day x.x

I've been studying :o/


yea well you just DONT KNOW how much ive been wanting to play borderlands with you today =(
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
November 25 2009 05:03 GMT
#12805
On November 25 2009 13:23 Alventenie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2009 12:45 BluzMan wrote:
Go beat that exp/min:

[image loading]


Non-EM.

On a side note: I just watched some FPVODs of [QuC]Angel and it struck me how amazingly good you can be with Defiler or Soulstealer mid if you use your monkey to refill the bottle at fountain. Those nukes NEVER END and hit you at crazy range with no vision required.

[QuC]Angel's YouTube channel, he plays pubs (sometimes not) and I've learned much about how to solo mid effectively with his vods:

http://www.youtube.com/QuCAngel#p/u/56/2EYzahGyygE

Well, recommended to all starting out.



I just want to point out that angel is overall not a very strong player. Hes really not that great laning and has some wtf moment picks in clan wars. Every time i watch Quc vs 5, Quc gets steamrolled in 15 minutes and its not even close x.x

Also, if you are rune whoring, youre better off with a crow, or just buying wards and actually getting wards. I watched angel do the rune whore with an extra chicken, and it failed miserably because the person he was laning just raped him early due to ss having shit base damage first couple levels.


Nah, I wouldn't recommend those VODs as a pro experience, but there are not many FPVODs around, and he's stilll way better than any typical pubster.

Ferrying bottle with courier was one of the things I never thought about until I saw it and it really improved my game and I'm confident soloing mid in all my games now (dunno, I've yet to meet a good solo mid probably) even though I always buy/grade monkey by myself. His Soulstealer VOD is quite meh (many controversial situations), but if you focus on his mana management, it's amazing. He never runs out of mana, ever. There are other many little things you see there, subtleties that give him the edge.

And well, his VOD as Bloodhunter is just amazing tbh. I'm sure you can do even better and his opponents were not the best, but so many little moments of brilliance over there like the clutch kill of Valk right under her tower as he circled around her to avoid stun.


Btw, a question to good people:

How do you counter Kraken's ult? I've been long thinking about it, and it seems that whatever you do, it's a lose/lose situation. If he ults your whole team, you all get damage and -armor and get raped by their AoE (even if you have a Barrier Idol, it's not infinite you know and doesn't stop terrible stuff like Voodoo's curse, besides, a Barrier Idol costs alot of money). If he ults like 2 people, you first fight 2v5, then 3v5. Shrunken Head negates the damage, but not the relocation.

This is all assuming Kraken knows that his ult can be ended prematurely and has blink. There's no way you can stun him. The best thing that came to my mind was trying to somehow put his Portal Key on a cooldown, but you need to actually know he's ulting somewhere in the fog, it can be very hard. If you see him, Thunderbringer could ult to put blink on cooldown, or hell, even a Pharaoh. But most of the time, you don't see him coming until the very last moment, so what do you do?

Multiple Barrier Idols maybe? Mass Puzzlebox? What do you do when there's a Soulstealer standing in the middle of the whirlpool?
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 25 2009 05:19 GMT
#12806
You cant stack barrier idols as the buff has a negative side of it, only allowing you to be buffed with barrier idol once every 50 seconds.

Easiest way to defend vs kraken is to play the game of a gank push style, so even if he gets a few people, you should still be on even footing pushing.

Also having wards behind their towers is a good way to see if he is ulting. Stay spread out, and if you have to, get people with bkb to be in front (so they can activate bkb to survive aoe), and hope your team either can back them up, or realize if they should go or not.

Kraken overall btw, is somewhat a weak laner, so you can deny him farm much like denying behemoth farm in a lane. Harass him a decent bit and just keep him off the creep line. A couple ganks and he wont be able to farm well enough to have a huge impact late game once you have multiple items.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
November 25 2009 05:22 GMT
#12807
On November 25 2009 13:46 MYM.Testie wrote:
You asking me to beat that EXP per minute? ;p
Your gold isn't even 300/min. Hell, that's almost 100 lower than my average GPM.

As for QuC.. we haven't lost a game to them yet, and we've played them a whole lot.
Only teams that are pretty good right now are
[5] WHP [FFS] and [FaB]
Right now [5]'s up in the tourneys.
2nd / 1st / 1st


Ayeee. Who needs money when you have experience?

Btw, why don't you make some FPVODs of yourself? Angel's are the best because they are the only I could find. I'm sure yours will be better and will unfold the mystery of the Ruined Axe Electrician.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
November 25 2009 05:25 GMT
#12808
On November 25 2009 14:19 Alventenie wrote:
You cant stack barrier idols as the buff has a negative side of it, only allowing you to be buffed with barrier idol once every 50 seconds.

Easiest way to defend vs kraken is to play the game of a gank push style, so even if he gets a few people, you should still be on even footing pushing.

Also having wards behind their towers is a good way to see if he is ulting. Stay spread out, and if you have to, get people with bkb to be in front (so they can activate bkb to survive aoe), and hope your team either can back them up, or realize if they should go or not.

Kraken overall btw, is somewhat a weak laner, so you can deny him farm much like denying behemoth farm in a lane. Harass him a decent bit and just keep him off the creep line. A couple ganks and he wont be able to farm well enough to have a huge impact late game once you have multiple items.


From my experience, Kraken can do his team good even if he just has a pair of boots and a portal key. He can jungle it if he is completely denied farm. Besides, he's not that weak a laner, not a stunner, be he has loads of HP, two escapes (albeit one only works vs melee) and unless he is dead, he's guaranteed to lasthit at least something with splash.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 25 2009 05:26 GMT
#12809
On November 25 2009 14:22 BluzMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2009 13:46 MYM.Testie wrote:
You asking me to beat that EXP per minute? ;p
Your gold isn't even 300/min. Hell, that's almost 100 lower than my average GPM.

As for QuC.. we haven't lost a game to them yet, and we've played them a whole lot.
Only teams that are pretty good right now are
[5] WHP [FFS] and [FaB]
Right now [5]'s up in the tourneys.
2nd / 1st / 1st


Ayeee. Who needs money when you have experience?

Btw, why don't you make some FPVODs of yourself? Angel's are the best because they are the only I could find. I'm sure yours will be better and will unfold the mystery of the Ruined Axe Electrician.



Testie has had 750+ before in a few pub games, but overall its not that great of an indicator of skill, because testies stats also include high level scrims where he maintains good kdr and creep stats.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-25 05:30:04
November 25 2009 05:27 GMT
#12810
On November 25 2009 13:55 Alventenie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2009 13:43 L wrote:
On November 25 2009 11:40 Alventenie wrote:
L, where have you been all day x.x

I've been studying :o/


yea well you just DONT KNOW how much ive been wanting to play borderlands with you today =(

I lub u :3

750+


25 by 42 minutes. Very doable. Helps if the other team is as eager as yours for team fights after you've won mid, though.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 25 2009 05:28 GMT
#12811
On November 25 2009 14:25 BluzMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2009 14:19 Alventenie wrote:
You cant stack barrier idols as the buff has a negative side of it, only allowing you to be buffed with barrier idol once every 50 seconds.

Easiest way to defend vs kraken is to play the game of a gank push style, so even if he gets a few people, you should still be on even footing pushing.

Also having wards behind their towers is a good way to see if he is ulting. Stay spread out, and if you have to, get people with bkb to be in front (so they can activate bkb to survive aoe), and hope your team either can back them up, or realize if they should go or not.

Kraken overall btw, is somewhat a weak laner, so you can deny him farm much like denying behemoth farm in a lane. Harass him a decent bit and just keep him off the creep line. A couple ganks and he wont be able to farm well enough to have a huge impact late game once you have multiple items.


From my experience, Kraken can do his team good even if he just has a pair of boots and a portal key. He can jungle it if he is completely denied farm. Besides, he's not that weak a laner, not a stunner, be he has loads of HP, two escapes (albeit one only works vs melee) and unless he is dead, he's guaranteed to lasthit at least something with splash.



You can force him to stay off the line with the threat of dieing. Just because he can kill something with splash doesnt mean he will be doing a great job with doing it and then living vs the opposing 2 heroes. Even if he gets a portal key, you have to play with offensive wards or a gank/push style to be really effective vs him. Or just force team fights elsewhere on the map so his ult is down when you push. If you have a decent hero line up you could even dual push lanes to force their team to split up.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
November 25 2009 05:30 GMT
#12812
:S
that's not very impressive even by my standards
and i can't even recognize heroes yet and walk into ganks cause i think the other heroes are on my team
and my kd ratio is like negative

but im getting better =p
[image loading]


soon i'll be less noob at hon
i promise
im @ about 10 games now, i can tell about 15 heroes by looking which is good progress imo xD
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-25 05:32:52
November 25 2009 05:31 GMT
#12813
also your cs sucks
my game length was same as yours
jk, i <3 you ^^
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
November 25 2009 05:37 GMT
#12814
jeejee you aren't in that game!
@QxGDarkCell ._.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
November 25 2009 05:42 GMT
#12815
i'm going to kill you
sigh
why is hot_bid so mean
what the hell kind of dumb name is jeejee anyway omfg i was like 12 when i made it
ughhhhh
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
November 25 2009 05:43 GMT
#12816
at least you don't have x's in your name.
@QxGDarkCell ._.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
November 25 2009 05:46 GMT
#12817
true
thankgod im not like xxXxXxXXCrAZzY-JeEeeJeeeXxXXxxxx

count your blessing i suppose
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
November 25 2009 05:52 GMT
#12818
I've had over 800 on more than one occasion I know that much. ;p
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
November 25 2009 05:55 GMT
#12819
i've had over 9.....

i swear!
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
November 25 2009 06:22 GMT
#12820
stop swearing
UNFUCK YOURSELF
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