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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 28 2008 14:43 GMT
#5681
Ok zelniq, aside from your own death you fucked up a lot more than TK that game and did a lot less, he complained about you constantly on vent for not slowing/keeping up, however I didn't type out any of it because I didn't want there to be animosity. But that didn't matter since you raged over what you perceive to be his mistake anyway while none of us said anything to you all game. So basically, you fucking up -> no one says anything, TK does something standard but you think he fucked up and I defend him -> you rage. Btw it's not that I don't read lol, it's that you are really fucking ridiculous when it comes to blaming others and on top of that you're just plain wrong about what TK did, it was perfectly fine.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 28 2008 14:48 GMT
#5682
On December 28 2008 08:39 Zelniq wrote:
I thought it may help if I gave an example of some of the failed communication I was talking about in the above post.

Take note of what I underlined:

Show nested quote +
On December 28 2008 02:20 zulu_nation8 wrote:
the point is Zelniq lacks the basic coordination to not charge in and die with THD, which seems obvious to me is the main reason that push failed.

Right when that happened, or before when TK TPed, he said to us on vent, wait a sec I'm gonna clear the top lane so the creeps are better. I didn't type "don't push" because I assumed you guys wouldn't fight without TK. However I was wrong and I guess I should've typed, "don't go guys TK is clearing top lane." Next thing I know Zelniq charges in, Furion follows and we get gangraped. Zelniq immediately types in caps, WHERE WERE YOU GUYS?

The person who is most responsible for that failed push it would seem to me is, Zelniq for charging in. I take the blame for not typing out, "don't go when there's no TK." Furion takes the responsibility for dying with Zelniq, or wanting to save Zelniq at all.


I've already told you what I'm about to say so many times already, and yet you still write this post clearly showing you did not pay attention to what I was saying.

YES, I am obviously clearly at fault for charging in and dying there after Tinker ported out. I never once tried to blame my death on someone else here. Yet you keep telling me like I don't know that it was my own stupid fault I died. god I said this so many times it's really frustrating to see you KEEP ON REPEATING THIS like you really need to point out my mistake.

Now if you're wondering, "then what the hell were you complaining about?" I was saying that I thought we should have simply pushed even though our top lane, 2nd tower was going to die (if it was even going to. Because at the point that tinker ported to top, the tower was not even under attack yet, it was 1-2 screens away from tower range. However in a while it was going to be attacked, as there were more enemy creeps that would eventually make it to the tower and likely eventually kill it). I was saying that I thought we should push hard when we have 5 all together on their side of the map, after having just ganked SB and all of us still having plenty or full hp/mana.

And when I said this, you keep going back to my own death and why I died, as if you keep assuming and coming to the wrong conclusion of me somehow blaming tinker/someone else for my death. Never once did I say / imply this.


Did it maybe cross your head that we didn't even blame you for dying when that push failed but you guys were the fastest to jump on TK for TPing and me for shopping LOL as if it's our fault the push failed??? That's why I said look at your own play before blaming others, obviously you're illiterate too. I mean I really should be raging by now but you're just so incredibly defensive and wrong about everything you say and you have no common sense so it's like talking to a 3 year old.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 28 2008 14:51 GMT
#5683
this reminds me of the game I played yesterday with tundie/shellfire/laikomg, tundie's tb and laik's veno lane, tundie's tb charges in to tower vs a lion, dies, gives up FB, and then immediately types, "why didn't you slow?" LOL, the obvious question should be, WHY DID YOU DIVE WHEN HE DIDNT SLOW? EVEN IF HE SLOWED YOU WOULD'VE DIED.

Like how zelniq should be asking, WHY THE FUCK DID I CHARGE IN WITH TK NOT THERE?? not, TK WHY DID YOU TELEPORT 3 SECS BEFORE I CHARGED IN?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 28 2008 14:52 GMT
#5684
keep defending yourself zelniq, i fucking love it man, then tell me how arrogant and blameful of others I am right after
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 28 2008 14:57 GMT
#5685
On December 28 2008 09:11 Zelniq wrote:
Why the hell did I spend so much effort and time into my last 2 posts on the previous page when, given bly's track record, he's more likely than not going to not even read them thoroughly? I guess I never learn.


zelniq you might not realize it but this little condescending shit you do is not cool. shut the fuck up and learn dota
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-28 15:19:14
December 28 2008 15:05 GMT
#5686
On December 28 2008 09:08 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2008 07:38 zulu_nation8 wrote:
seriously though I'm pretty sure I was right that game and you are wrong? But it's ok you shinbi zelniq should start a "fucks up a lot but defends himself like 5 year old with endless excuses" club.


you still haven't addressed anything i said, but then i don't think you're capable. see, i'm forced to insult you instead of your argument because you don't even bring an argument. your only two excuses are that
-tinker can port back
-spec can ult in

both of which are pointless, because tinker TPing out to "save" a tower (that wasn't even remotely close to being attacked), will take at least 10 seconds, more likely closer to 15, turning a 5v4 situation into a 5v5, losing our creep support (because our creeps had already engaged their tower, and so we would lose the wave and forced to wait for the next one if we were to continue the push) and losing our position advantage, basically screwing over our entire push.

nevermind spec walking to a shop, which is going to take even longer. so i'm still waiting for why you think it was a good idea to completely abandon our push in favor of farming top as tinker (because it's obviously not defending a tower, given that it wasn't even close to being attacked.


i don't really expect a reply that makes any sense from you, but feel free to surprise me.


yea waiting for another creep wave destroys the push, that's why you should fight 4v5 instead of waiting for another creep wave. And of course you have to wait for me, spectre, to be with you guys during every push because I definitely can't ult into any battle from anywhere. The top lane had a lot more sent creeps than scourge creeps, it will get to our 2nd tower by the time we push and our fight is over, so it was clearly the better decision to clear those creeps so we don't lose a tower for no reason than to push immediately with meepo still alive. But oh no you thought he was FARMING LOL. Now I understand. It's ok I don't expect you to understand Dota, it's hard game for idiots.

Knowing how you're never wrong, you'll then say OMG that tower wasn't close to being taken down you're wrong bly wtf. I will reply, it looked like it was gonna fall to TK's judgement, and judging from how he played vs how you played I'd think his judgement is better than yours. But it's ok you and zelniq have excellent dota sense I mean how can you guys ever be wrong or even comprehend how good you guys are.

that's gonna be my new signature, "spec walking to a shop", IF YOURE SPEC DONT WALK TO SHOP DURING A PUSH WE CANT PUSH WITHOUT YOU
chiflutz
Profile Joined June 2006
Romania1025 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-28 15:40:18
December 28 2008 15:37 GMT
#5687
Bly with the dreaded ultralisk rush.

Edit: just realized this entire page is him and him alone. I r scared.
kt violet Korea (South). July 27 2012 15:54. Posts 23
IefNaij
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada291 Posts
December 28 2008 16:46 GMT
#5688
i feel u chiflutz
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
December 28 2008 17:36 GMT
#5689
Sextuple posting rage, nice.

Note, I take neither side on the issue at hand.
twitter: @terrancem
irishash
Profile Joined November 2008
United States285 Posts
December 28 2008 18:07 GMT
#5690
anyone absolutely sick of this game and wish to let me use your frozen throne key in the meantime?
MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
December 28 2008 18:54 GMT
#5691
you dont need a frozen throne key to dota.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
December 28 2008 18:54 GMT
#5692
On December 29 2008 00:05 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2008 09:08 JeeJee wrote:
On December 28 2008 07:38 zulu_nation8 wrote:
seriously though I'm pretty sure I was right that game and you are wrong? But it's ok you shinbi zelniq should start a "fucks up a lot but defends himself like 5 year old with endless excuses" club.


you still haven't addressed anything i said, but then i don't think you're capable. see, i'm forced to insult you instead of your argument because you don't even bring an argument. your only two excuses are that
-tinker can port back
-spec can ult in

both of which are pointless, because tinker TPing out to "save" a tower (that wasn't even remotely close to being attacked), will take at least 10 seconds, more likely closer to 15, turning a 5v4 situation into a 5v5, losing our creep support (because our creeps had already engaged their tower, and so we would lose the wave and forced to wait for the next one if we were to continue the push) and losing our position advantage, basically screwing over our entire push.

nevermind spec walking to a shop, which is going to take even longer. so i'm still waiting for why you think it was a good idea to completely abandon our push in favor of farming top as tinker (because it's obviously not defending a tower, given that it wasn't even close to being attacked.


i don't really expect a reply that makes any sense from you, but feel free to surprise me.


yea waiting for another creep wave destroys the push, that's why you should fight 4v5 instead of waiting for another creep wave. And of course you have to wait for me, spectre, to be with you guys during every push because I definitely can't ult into any battle from anywhere. The top lane had a lot more sent creeps than scourge creeps, it will get to our 2nd tower by the time we push and our fight is over, so it was clearly the better decision to clear those creeps so we don't lose a tower for no reason than to push immediately with meepo still alive. But oh no you thought he was FARMING LOL. Now I understand. It's ok I don't expect you to understand Dota, it's hard game for idiots.

Knowing how you're never wrong, you'll then say OMG that tower wasn't close to being taken down you're wrong bly wtf. I will reply, it looked like it was gonna fall to TK's judgement, and judging from how he played vs how you played I'd think his judgement is better than yours. But it's ok you and zelniq have excellent dota sense I mean how can you guys ever be wrong or even comprehend how good you guys are.

that's gonna be my new signature, "spec walking to a shop", IF YOURE SPEC DONT WALK TO SHOP DURING A PUSH WE CANT PUSH WITHOUT YOU


Sigh I was going to answer, but I realized I'd just be restating what I said in my previous posts which you kindly ignored and went on with attempting to insult me. When you decide to try and actually argue the points, feel free, I'm not stopping you. I especially like your "thinking".

Thinking's a tricky business bly, I wouldn't do too much of it if I were you.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 28 2008 19:02 GMT
#5693
i just destroyed your points your points are horrible
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 28 2008 19:10 GMT
#5694
JeeJee from your understanding of BD rules to this issue of TK teleporting to save tower, it's obvious that from only playing with TL and never playing in higher skilled, competitive games nor watch high skilled replays that you have a very skewed sense of basically all dota knowledge. It'd be cool if you realize it and doesn't get offended like BHP, but you don't realize it and think your dota experience represents the "right" way and proceeds to educate me on how TK should play. I can only respond by ignoring your ignorance which I will do now. Never tell me how dota should be played and vice versa I will never educate you.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 28 2008 19:12 GMT
#5695
Lastly tinker teleporting, getting machine guys, teleporting back takes less than 10 seconds, but whatever he's clearly leaving the push to farm those creeps instead of clearing them roflmao.
Tundie
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada14 Posts
December 28 2008 19:17 GMT
#5696
On December 28 2008 23:51 zulu_nation8 wrote:
this reminds me of the game I played yesterday with tundie/shellfire/laikomg, tundie's tb and laik's veno lane, tundie's tb charges in to tower vs a lion, dies, gives up FB, and then immediately types, "why didn't you slow?" LOL, the obvious question should be, WHY DID YOU DIVE WHEN HE DIDNT SLOW? EVEN IF HE SLOWED YOU WOULD'VE DIED.

Like how zelniq should be asking, WHY THE FUCK DID I CHARGE IN WITH TK NOT THERE?? not, TK WHY DID YOU TELEPORT 3 SECS BEFORE I CHARGED IN?


Hey don't drag me into this feg! And I died because I was typing and my char kept moving up not because I dived.

Destroyed your point ggff.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-28 19:24:56
December 28 2008 19:19 GMT
#5697
you died because the tower hit you 3 times, i guess ok, that wasn't normal diving, it looked like you lost control of your hero. I was just making the point that you shouldn'tve asked Laikomg "why no slow"
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
December 28 2008 19:55 GMT
#5698
Rage cakes : )
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
December 28 2008 20:08 GMT
#5699
sure bly keep making wrong assumptions and never actually addressing the point. God it's like talking to a wall.

The one thing you did bring up, a la taking less than 10 seconds, is wrong. Simple preschool addition will prove it otherwise.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-28 20:36:08
December 28 2008 20:20 GMT
#5700
ForgottenFrog

I just signed up and and installed client. It took me forever to muster up the nerves to begin playing dota with my fellow Teamliquid companions so feel free to add me and play with me.

-edit-

I would love to join the clan to get my game on but its currently full so where do I go as the next step in finding/playing a game with you guys?
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