[HoN/DotA] Let's Play~!! - Page 285

On December 28 2008 08:39 Zelniq wrote:
I thought it may help if I gave an example of some of the failed communication I was talking about in the above post.

Take note of what I underlined:



I've already told you what I'm about to say so many times already, and yet you still write this post clearly showing you did not pay attention to what I was saying.

YES, I am obviously clearly at fault for charging in and dying there after Tinker ported out. I never once tried to blame my death on someone else here. Yet you keep telling me like I don't know that it was my own stupid fault I died. god I said this so many times it's really frustrating to see you KEEP ON REPEATING THIS like you really need to point out my mistake.

Now if you're wondering, "then what the hell were you complaining about?" I was saying that I thought we should have simply pushed even though our top lane, 2nd tower was going to die (if it was even going to. Because at the point that tinker ported to top, the tower was not even under attack yet, it was 1-2 screens away from tower range. However in a while it was going to be attacked, as there were more enemy creeps that would eventually make it to the tower and likely eventually kill it). I was saying that I thought we should push hard when we have 5 all together on their side of the map, after having just ganked SB and all of us still having plenty or full hp/mana.

And when I said this, you keep going back to my own death and why I died, as if you keep assuming and coming to the wrong conclusion of me somehow blaming tinker/someone else for my death. Never once did I say / imply this.

On December 28 2008 09:11 Zelniq wrote:
Why the hell did I spend so much effort and time into my last 2 posts on the previous page when, given bly's track record, he's more likely than not going to not even read them thoroughly? I guess I never learn.

On December 28 2008 09:08 JeeJee wrote:


you still haven't addressed anything i said, but then i don't think you're capable. see, i'm forced to insult you instead of your argument because you don't even bring an argument. your only two excuses are that
-tinker can port back
-spec can ult in

both of which are pointless, because tinker TPing out to "save" a tower (that wasn't even remotely close to being attacked), will take at least 10 seconds, more likely closer to 15, turning a 5v4 situation into a 5v5, losing our creep support (because our creeps had already engaged their tower, and so we would lose the wave and forced to wait for the next one if we were to continue the push) and losing our position advantage, basically screwing over our entire push.

nevermind spec walking to a shop, which is going to take even longer. so i'm still waiting for why you think it was a good idea to completely abandon our push in favor of farming top as tinker (because it's obviously not defending a tower, given that it wasn't even close to being attacked.


i don't really expect a reply that makes any sense from you, but feel free to surprise me.

On December 29 2008 00:05 zulu_nation8 wrote:


yea waiting for another creep wave destroys the push, that's why you should fight 4v5 instead of waiting for another creep wave. And of course you have to wait for me, spectre, to be with you guys during every push because I definitely can't ult into any battle from anywhere. The top lane had a lot more sent creeps than scourge creeps, it will get to our 2nd tower by the time we push and our fight is over, so it was clearly the better decision to clear those creeps so we don't lose a tower for no reason than to push immediately with meepo still alive. But oh no you thought he was FARMING LOL. Now I understand. It's ok I don't expect you to understand Dota, it's hard game for idiots.

Knowing how you're never wrong, you'll then say OMG that tower wasn't close to being taken down you're wrong bly wtf. I will reply, it looked like it was gonna fall to TK's judgement, and judging from how he played vs how you played I'd think his judgement is better than yours. But it's ok you and zelniq have excellent dota sense I mean how can you guys ever be wrong or even comprehend how good you guys are.

that's gonna be my new signature, "spec walking to a shop", IF YOURE SPEC DONT WALK TO SHOP DURING A PUSH WE CANT PUSH WITHOUT YOU

On December 28 2008 23:51 zulu_nation8 wrote:
this reminds me of the game I played yesterday with tundie/shellfire/laikomg, tundie's tb and laik's veno lane, tundie's tb charges in to tower vs a lion, dies, gives up FB, and then immediately types, "why didn't you slow?" LOL, the obvious question should be, WHY DID YOU DIVE WHEN HE DIDNT SLOW? EVEN IF HE SLOWED YOU WOULD'VE DIED.

Like how zelniq should be asking, WHY THE FUCK DID I CHARGE IN WITH TK NOT THERE?? not, TK WHY DID YOU TELEPORT 3 SECS BEFORE I CHARGED IN?