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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On January 06 2008 18:09 MYM.Testie wrote:(like notsorry going techies tonight and using euls / dagger / placing mines under who he euls'd + daggered... then uhh dying once they landed). =) QTF I was literally falling over laughing, the wife was looking at me like I had gone insane. | ||
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paper
13196 Posts
City is cool, and any 'noob' comments toward him (or in general) are in jest, if you haven't noticed. He's just my cute scapegoat when shit goes wrong and he has a shitty pick. And outperforming? That usually happens if I'm running around the whole game trying to organize ganks while everyone else farms. And I'm not going to farm all game to try to win -- my hero picks don't suit that style that well. I think working and moving together as a team is a hell of a lot more fun than farming all game by yourself, and I try to make the team work toward that way, but people just don't fucking listen. | ||
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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
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TheMusiC
United States1054 Posts
also, play some fucking SHOPPING MAUL, i swear best tower d ever | ||
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Southlight
United States11761 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On January 06 2008 17:59 paper wrote: 1. In 2v2 SC, having a partner is beneficial no matter what, so shitty analogy. 2. I don't take shit online so personally, so it doesn't affect me. 3. Did you even read what I fucking wrote? 4. Can you stop making shit up and exaggerating your claims? 5. Yeah, I made this thread to have fun IH games, but people just do their own fucking shit in a TEAM GAME, making the entire game not so fun anymore. I was hoping people from the same forum would be more responsive and listen to what other teammates would want, but apparently not in some cases. BTW, did you even read what I fucking wrote? 6. Thanks for basing your entire view of me on one incident. 1. no its not lol, people can do nothing all game but turtle in base similar to heroes who do nothing but farm and dont help out their allies 2. well you certainly sound like you do so it doesnt matter if you really do or not 3. yes i fucking did thats why i responded 4. LOL im not exaggerating that was exactly what happened, you were yelling at razor/nemesis guy all game and i even said: "don't be mean" and you said some bitch shit like, "im just telling the truth, the truth hurts" 5. If you think people always have to be good to have fun then you're a bitch like i said, when I started I didn't know what ganking and farming was, I still don't to be honest, from a complete noobies' perspective I can't even identify the heroes on the screen most of the time like rikimaru that small fucker always killing me, so when people yell at me all I can say is, sorry im noob, unless you tell me specifically, don't leave your allies like that, or don't farm while their heroes are pushing. Otherwise you're not actually helping the people who are bad and just berating them like you're an angry fucker. 6. I've played like 3-4 games with you you've been the same in every game, I think 3 in-house games and one game with me you and locked. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Southlight
United States11761 Posts
On January 06 2008 21:50 zulu_nation8 wrote: Just don't care so much, take a chill pill, if you know you berate people and we're saying don't do it because it's not worth it then just don't do it. No matter how bad your allies are. I don't think anyone in this thread is as bad as me, so I think I speak for every noob when I say, I enjoy dota a lot, espcially learning it and I would hope people are patient with me and teach me stuff rather than yelling. It's fun playing with TLers and with pubbies and I hope others feel the same no matter how bad I am. I agree, I'm still pretty new to DotA, and I speak for probably a good chunk of TLers when I say that playing horrendous is already frustrating to begin with. I remember a week or so ago when I played Rhasta for the first time, and was completely flipping out during the game, hitting the wrong hotkey (wrong hotkey = wrong skill), making really bad moves because I wasn't able to just "play" rather than think through everything, I think I ended up like 0-15, even had this wonderful 0.1 second Entangle on Testie that caused Heen to go OMFGWTFBBQ, just completely overwhelmed by it, and Zelniq being frustrated didn't help. But I went to Zelniq after the game and apologized, and he didn't seem to mind, and that really, really helped me feel a bit better about it (still shoddy game but eh). I mean, I probably single-handedly wrecked that game in every way imaginable, and I knew it, but being able to sit in a corner and be sad without having four people scream at me about something I already know and feel bad about was, uhhh, comforting, for lack of a better word at the moment. | ||
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paper
13196 Posts
BTW, have you even read what I fucking wrote? | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On January 06 2008 16:45 paper wrote: Honestly, if you truly do take offense at my rage, you need to realize that it's temporary and I won't give a shit about it unless you make the same fucking mistake multiple times or bring up the past. Are you that insecure/retarded that you can't learn? I'm pretty sure I wasn't this retarded when starting DotA because not many people shouted at me (given the notorious number of DotA players who shit on others for no reason at all). LOL ok man let's play some starcraft and I'll just contain you all game while rushing to broodlings at the same time I will tell you how much of a noobtard you are who sucks at the game and is retarded and don't listen. I didn't know that I had to be as smart as you to play DotA with you, you're so fucking talented man please yell at me more so I can bathe in your greatness. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
There are more reasons for why DotA newbs take more heat such as bad teammates being harmful to you but I won't go there. That said, of course we should tolerate newbs in DotA. It takes time to get familiar with all the heroes, items, and skills. For me, DotA was easy to learn because I had a warcraft background. The movement, concept of stun/disable, last hitting (creep jacking) were familiar. That's another thing we, including myself, need to understand: not everyone has played warcraft extensively enough to learn as fast as those that did. I don't think I've ever bitched about 'idiotic' pathing in DotA, ever. A lot of people who haven't played much warcraft seem to find this to be a problem for example. However, there are plenty of times when players do something dumb not because they are new, but because they didn't put enough thought into it. Then, his teammates bitch about his stupidity rather than bad hand-eye coordination. Obviously it doesn't help to bitch but you can kind of see why it's different from bitching in other games. It's more like someone bitching at his teammate terran not scanning for him to clear lurkers in his mineral line than someone bitching that his macro isn't strong enough. Those of you who have gamed with me on GGC have probably seen me bitch to pubs (mostly) as well (though not as often as ryugie lol). In my defense that's because: 1. I assume they aren't 'new,' so they deserve it. 2. They are strangers who are often immature, dumb, and generally not respectable. I'm pretty mannered to people I know, I think. Oh, except for my roommate BottleAbuser/bdares. Of all the times I've said the word 'faggot,' more than half were directed at him  I kick people I find suspicious if they can't answer questinos like 'how much does dagger cost?' because I'd rather play a game that is at a higher level simply because it's more fun. But for TL DotA, you have to understand that people from different prior experiences are meeting up to play so the differences in skill are going to be big. There's no reason not to try to play at the highest level possible but you need more patience. I confess that I even asked zulu to give me control when he was playing faceless so I could use his ult at the right time. That was kind of mean I guess  But that is the nature of DotA. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On January 06 2008 18:09 MYM.Testie wrote:While I love Shinbi, and wish he wouldn't pull the ancients... when he's in an ancient pulling mood, I'll be damned if I can stop him. (I hope he doesn't read this though, he'll start doing it again). T_T dont worry, until someone goes axe on our team, you have nothing to worry about thanks for the reminder though right now i'm in a solo-rosh-at-lvl-7 mood haha edit: as for this whole thing here like, usually i side with ryugie, but the last game he took it a bit too far. i think spectre was really upset ;(. usually i find, the responses to insults/beratements go something like this: -if they think the insulter is an idiot, they tell him so -if they dont care, they ignore -if they knew they did wrong, they say sorry and so on -but when they start saying things like "dude im trying my best" and "please stop" instead of shit like "fuck you" then i think its time to cut it out -.-; anyway ryugie does usually give advice at first before going into pure-bitchy mode because they weren't following the advice. and the advice is usually good, like when i was krob and didn't use my swarm as soon as possible, and ryugie told me to use it earlier. i mean it obviously makes sense due to its low mana cost and cooldown that i shouldn't use it as a finisher. see i learned something. problem is, if he tells something like this to a random who doesn't follow the advice time and time again (not at anyone here, just in general), then ryugie gets bitchy. i can see both sides of this so i don't really care. get on vent people :D i got my mic to work notsorry. i dunno about the quality, tell me in today's games | ||
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HonkHonkBeep
China353 Posts
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Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
On January 07 2008 00:20 Heen wrote: For me, DotA was easy to learn because I had a warcraft background. I didn't know this. Lets play some WC3 Mr Carnage 27-0 pudge in 24~ mins. What race do you play? I'm a NE player AS FOR THE HUGE RYUGIE STORM it's pretty simple. everyone JLIG and play. ryugie stop bitching the way you do. even if they don't listen to simple instructions, you could still do it nicer (it's prolly 100x more effective if you do it with manners as it makes them feel embarassed and want to change rather than focusing on your yelling). Everyone here just wants to have fun like Testie said. and Cats unban him. THE END ITS JUST A GAME p.s.: I think I've realized a bit myself how I bitch a bit too much at people. And sadly I'm probably sucking worse than whoever I'm bitching at. also I really meant the JLIG and play part..as in lets go play right now gooooo | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
It's been a few years since I laddered so I'm not up to date strategy wise. Didn't you see me sucking in FFA last summer? I got my 25 win icon on my new account so I'm not going to ladder more. It's not that fun for me  I like how 1v1 used to be the easiest way to get wins and now it's random team. Well, I guess arranged team is better but I never liked that. | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
If i join a game on B.net i start and then someone yells a bunch of words and soon after that i'm kicked (i think) and right now i'm just playing on some AI map with 1-2 friends, and we and up getting slaughtered ;_; | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
Just to open up ideas for you, I go mass bracers to necronomicon on VS. She's a horrible farmer and a support hero so that's all you need really. stun and stats until lvl 12ish, get aura, and I find terror (?) pretty useless. | ||
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