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xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
April 10 2012 16:38 GMT
#32861
cant really argue that civ5 multiplayer is superior to civ4 multiplayer, not that thats saying much ;p
but since the whole proposition centres around that anyway... ;D
Meh.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 10 2012 16:44 GMT
#32862
On April 08 2012 05:22 xZiGGY wrote:
so I've decided to start learning the heroes & items in dota2 since I find myself wanting to play a dota style game but am too reluctant to play either hon or lol. :/ And this is how I spend my holidays {forever_alone.jpg} QQQQQQQ :O

Check out this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=317167, its aimed at LoL players but its a good start, and you can find people there too, if not you can ask around in the Dota 2 subforums for any questions.
WriterXiao8~~
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
April 13 2012 16:29 GMT
#32863
So HoN = Deadz now that tralf is quitting?

Discuss

Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
April 13 2012 16:42 GMT
#32864
special secret tralf mask of madness + thunderhammer zeus build is the bestest build ever made
Meh.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
April 14 2012 01:43 GMT
#32865
finally making the switch over to dota2. ive had an account for a long time but was just never interested.

i feel like im downgrading in graphics, but im expecting much better gameplay and just a better community in general :D
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
April 14 2012 11:44 GMT
#32866
[image loading]

Dat CHEN invi block...
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"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
April 14 2012 15:06 GMT
#32867
On April 14 2012 10:43 BlueRoyaL wrote:
finally making the switch over to dota2. ive had an account for a long time but was just never interested.

i feel like im downgrading in graphics, but im expecting much better gameplay and just a better community in general :D

You think the Dota community has a better community than HoN? Sadly, I disagree.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
April 14 2012 15:29 GMT
#32868
On April 15 2012 00:06 Durak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 10:43 BlueRoyaL wrote:
finally making the switch over to dota2. ive had an account for a long time but was just never interested.

i feel like im downgrading in graphics, but im expecting much better gameplay and just a better community in general :D

You think the Dota community has a better community than HoN? Sadly, I disagree.


i wasnt specifically talking about dota (as i believe you're talking about dota1) but dota2. I've only played like maybe 5 games most, so my opinion isn't yet grounded on conclusive evidence. But people seem to be more manner in general. When people pause for whatever reason, usually the other team just waits it out instead of unpausing right away (like in hon). And people dont seem to rage and flame as much.

but then again, maybe ijust havent experienced it......... yet. HAHA
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 15:39:43
April 14 2012 15:39 GMT
#32869
1. You got Lucky

2. Dota 2 isn't open for everyone yet.
WriterXiao8~~
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
April 14 2012 17:00 GMT
#32870
I'd go with #1.

In general, pub games are far worse in Dota2 because there are less people who are willing to play support. My explanation is twofold. First, there is no visible MMR so people don't see any persistent effect from winning and losing. This means people are more likely to throw games or just pick a terrible team composition because they don't care if they lose. Second, there are a lot of Dota players who probably never had a good indication of their skill and assume they're far better than their "pub" teammates. This makes everyone insist on a solo lane and/or a carry, which is usually a detriment due to their disillusioned skill in addition to the team composition.

In HoN, I solo queued to 1900 (1700? or whatever it is now. Didn't play after MMR change). Through all the MMR getting up to that, pubs had way better teamwork than in Dota2. At a low 1650 MMR, and my team was around 1550, they would at least discuss picks and defer judgment to the higher MMR player. People would play support because they genuinely wanted to improve as well as win to increase their MMR. In addition, they would at least think about lanes during the picks.

In conclusion, there is an even bigger ego-to-skill disparity than in HoN. This actually creates way less mannered games because everyone ends up being a huge dick. I expect this will change once the game is released but that's my current impression after 400+ games.
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
April 14 2012 17:21 GMT
#32871
I'd say the total opposite to above, in my experience people are way more willing to support in dota, because your kd and shit like that isn't tracked, which everyone in hon has a giant boner over
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
April 14 2012 17:39 GMT
#32872
just for clarification we're talking about solo-queing in dota2 also right?

I can kind of see what you're saying though Durak. Having a built-in rating system has its pros and cons
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
April 14 2012 18:39 GMT
#32873
On April 15 2012 02:21 Lyter wrote:
I'd say the total opposite to above, in my experience people are way more willing to support in dota, because your kd and shit like that isn't tracked, which everyone in hon has a giant boner over

In 450 games I've had maybe a dozen with people playing pure support. I guess your thesis supports the usual 10 minute fountain camping after one rax though.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 14 2012 18:46 GMT
#32874
durak most unreliable hard carry ever thats why nobody plays support for him
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
April 14 2012 20:31 GMT
#32875
Losing every game is being reliable!
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
April 16 2012 01:25 GMT
#32876
HoN is so trash now. It used to be good, IT HAD POTENTIAL
Power of Ze
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
April 16 2012 08:54 GMT
#32877
such is the life of commecial games :<
Meh.
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
April 16 2012 13:14 GMT
#32878
On April 16 2012 17:54 xZiGGY wrote:
such is the life of commecial games :<

ziggy, u still rage at innocent kids?
Power of Ze
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
April 16 2012 14:03 GMT
#32879
is there a law against that? and no one is innocent on the internet *snub*
Meh.
Ganfei2
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
473 Posts
April 17 2012 16:41 GMT
#32880
Yeah but not many people managed to get kicked out of LN either
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