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On December 31 2010 12:20 Alventenie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2010 12:06 TrainFX wrote:On December 31 2010 08:55 dacthehork wrote:On December 30 2010 06:49 TrainFX wrote:Ok so I used to stream league of legends super HD but now I'm playing Heroes of Newerth. Ownin it up a lil bit... went 11/1/14 with thunderbringer, we won at 36 kills so uhh do the math. 24858514 (u can look up the game im HellzFX) http://www.mediafire.com/?t9i2jg5hm117ynm (you can dl the replay there) www.livestream.com/hellzfxI'll try to get listed in about 2 months haha. check out thisthis replay for my 16/4/16 soulstealer stomp :D i got a doombringer, +250 dmg So I got a good devourer replay, sort of a tutorial of just easy stuff to do with him(pudge). http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=24900716I did pretty well haha. damn 334 gold/min on Soulstealer, dude "PRO SKILLZ" as your stream name implies can you stream some bronze SC2 too, really love seeing pro super HD skills streamed? aka just fyi, you're not good, at all. It's amazing you have good games, everyone does sometime. The thing is actual good players do it against the other top players. Please don't misinform beginners/new people that you have any idea what you are really doing or have any skill. Not to be harsh, but 1500 psr games are very low level and you definitely misrepresent yourself in your post. If anyone wants some insight into high level dota/hon , I recommend Ehome/DTS/LGD replays from dota, that's the top in terms of teamwork/skill, although some heroes don't transfer over and there is a slight difference in metagame (hon teams are lower skilled compared to chinese) almost all the concepts in terms of how to play the heroes transfer over. Hey man I'm trying to CONTRIBUTE something in the way of a stream and replays, WHAT are YOU contributing? I'm not even offering anyone advice I'm just showcasing my games. It's fine that you want to show your games and all, but you should put them into context. You're streaming a 1500ish game and telling it to people who mostly are 1700+ (quite number of us are 1800/1900+ and testie's 2k+). It's not that we want to be harsh, but the games you are playing in you could go 20-0 with almost any hero because most people are just not that strong of a player. You can stream you games, no ones stopping you, but when you brag to people who have way more psr than you they kind of will just cast you off to the side because you're being arrogant.
OK if I'm so bad why don't you show me how its done and help me instead of criticizing shit.
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Alven is really good :D I'm sure he'd be glad to help you if you asked him nicely 
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On December 31 2010 12:27 Superiorwolf wrote:Alven is really good :D I'm sure he'd be glad to help you if you asked him nicely
yea "help" you.
let's just say alven is the type to have a freakish amount of saran wrap, and a full body plastic suit for "rainy days"
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On December 31 2010 12:24 TrainFX wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2010 12:20 Alventenie wrote:On December 31 2010 12:06 TrainFX wrote:On December 31 2010 08:55 dacthehork wrote:On December 30 2010 06:49 TrainFX wrote:Ok so I used to stream league of legends super HD but now I'm playing Heroes of Newerth. Ownin it up a lil bit... went 11/1/14 with thunderbringer, we won at 36 kills so uhh do the math. 24858514 (u can look up the game im HellzFX) http://www.mediafire.com/?t9i2jg5hm117ynm (you can dl the replay there) www.livestream.com/hellzfxI'll try to get listed in about 2 months haha. check out thisthis replay for my 16/4/16 soulstealer stomp :D i got a doombringer, +250 dmg So I got a good devourer replay, sort of a tutorial of just easy stuff to do with him(pudge). http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=24900716I did pretty well haha. damn 334 gold/min on Soulstealer, dude "PRO SKILLZ" as your stream name implies can you stream some bronze SC2 too, really love seeing pro super HD skills streamed? aka just fyi, you're not good, at all. It's amazing you have good games, everyone does sometime. The thing is actual good players do it against the other top players. Please don't misinform beginners/new people that you have any idea what you are really doing or have any skill. Not to be harsh, but 1500 psr games are very low level and you definitely misrepresent yourself in your post. If anyone wants some insight into high level dota/hon , I recommend Ehome/DTS/LGD replays from dota, that's the top in terms of teamwork/skill, although some heroes don't transfer over and there is a slight difference in metagame (hon teams are lower skilled compared to chinese) almost all the concepts in terms of how to play the heroes transfer over. Hey man I'm trying to CONTRIBUTE something in the way of a stream and replays, WHAT are YOU contributing? I'm not even offering anyone advice I'm just showcasing my games. It's fine that you want to show your games and all, but you should put them into context. You're streaming a 1500ish game and telling it to people who mostly are 1700+ (quite number of us are 1800/1900+ and testie's 2k+). It's not that we want to be harsh, but the games you are playing in you could go 20-0 with almost any hero because most people are just not that strong of a player. You can stream you games, no ones stopping you, but when you brag to people who have way more psr than you they kind of will just cast you off to the side because you're being arrogant. OK if I'm so bad why don't you show me how its done and help me instead of criticizing shit.
Not a single word in my post said "you are bad". I just said that the people you play against aren't strong players, which is why you can apparently do so well against them. Once you start playing in games equal to your skill level, you will know how good of a player you are. I don't mind helping people out, but i currently work a lot and am playing Hell Unleashed.
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On December 31 2010 12:24 TrainFX wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2010 12:20 Alventenie wrote:On December 31 2010 12:06 TrainFX wrote:On December 31 2010 08:55 dacthehork wrote:On December 30 2010 06:49 TrainFX wrote:Ok so I used to stream league of legends super HD but now I'm playing Heroes of Newerth. Ownin it up a lil bit... went 11/1/14 with thunderbringer, we won at 36 kills so uhh do the math. 24858514 (u can look up the game im HellzFX) http://www.mediafire.com/?t9i2jg5hm117ynm (you can dl the replay there) www.livestream.com/hellzfxI'll try to get listed in about 2 months haha. check out thisthis replay for my 16/4/16 soulstealer stomp :D i got a doombringer, +250 dmg So I got a good devourer replay, sort of a tutorial of just easy stuff to do with him(pudge). http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=24900716I did pretty well haha. damn 334 gold/min on Soulstealer, dude "PRO SKILLZ" as your stream name implies can you stream some bronze SC2 too, really love seeing pro super HD skills streamed? aka just fyi, you're not good, at all. It's amazing you have good games, everyone does sometime. The thing is actual good players do it against the other top players. Please don't misinform beginners/new people that you have any idea what you are really doing or have any skill. Not to be harsh, but 1500 psr games are very low level and you definitely misrepresent yourself in your post. If anyone wants some insight into high level dota/hon , I recommend Ehome/DTS/LGD replays from dota, that's the top in terms of teamwork/skill, although some heroes don't transfer over and there is a slight difference in metagame (hon teams are lower skilled compared to chinese) almost all the concepts in terms of how to play the heroes transfer over. Hey man I'm trying to CONTRIBUTE something in the way of a stream and replays, WHAT are YOU contributing? I'm not even offering anyone advice I'm just showcasing my games. It's fine that you want to show your games and all, but you should put them into context. You're streaming a 1500ish game and telling it to people who mostly are 1700+ (quite number of us are 1800/1900+ and testie's 2k+). It's not that we want to be harsh, but the games you are playing in you could go 20-0 with almost any hero because most people are just not that strong of a player. You can stream you games, no ones stopping you, but when you brag to people who have way more psr than you they kind of will just cast you off to the side because you're being arrogant. OK if I'm so bad why don't you show me how its done and help me instead of criticizing shit.
if only the world worked that way, eh?
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On December 31 2010 12:24 TrainFX wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2010 12:20 Alventenie wrote:On December 31 2010 12:06 TrainFX wrote:On December 31 2010 08:55 dacthehork wrote:On December 30 2010 06:49 TrainFX wrote:Ok so I used to stream league of legends super HD but now I'm playing Heroes of Newerth. Ownin it up a lil bit... went 11/1/14 with thunderbringer, we won at 36 kills so uhh do the math. 24858514 (u can look up the game im HellzFX) http://www.mediafire.com/?t9i2jg5hm117ynm (you can dl the replay there) www.livestream.com/hellzfxI'll try to get listed in about 2 months haha. check out thisthis replay for my 16/4/16 soulstealer stomp :D i got a doombringer, +250 dmg So I got a good devourer replay, sort of a tutorial of just easy stuff to do with him(pudge). http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=24900716I did pretty well haha. damn 334 gold/min on Soulstealer, dude "PRO SKILLZ" as your stream name implies can you stream some bronze SC2 too, really love seeing pro super HD skills streamed? aka just fyi, you're not good, at all. It's amazing you have good games, everyone does sometime. The thing is actual good players do it against the other top players. Please don't misinform beginners/new people that you have any idea what you are really doing or have any skill. Not to be harsh, but 1500 psr games are very low level and you definitely misrepresent yourself in your post. If anyone wants some insight into high level dota/hon , I recommend Ehome/DTS/LGD replays from dota, that's the top in terms of teamwork/skill, although some heroes don't transfer over and there is a slight difference in metagame (hon teams are lower skilled compared to chinese) almost all the concepts in terms of how to play the heroes transfer over. Hey man I'm trying to CONTRIBUTE something in the way of a stream and replays, WHAT are YOU contributing? I'm not even offering anyone advice I'm just showcasing my games. It's fine that you want to show your games and all, but you should put them into context. You're streaming a 1500ish game and telling it to people who mostly are 1700+ (quite number of us are 1800/1900+ and testie's 2k+). It's not that we want to be harsh, but the games you are playing in you could go 20-0 with almost any hero because most people are just not that strong of a player. You can stream you games, no ones stopping you, but when you brag to people who have way more psr than you they kind of will just cast you off to the side because you're being arrogant. OK if I'm so bad why don't you show me how its done and help me instead of criticizing shit.
because when you brag to people who have way more psr than you they kind of will just cast you off to the side because you're being arrogant.
oh, and you didnt ask.
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As far as playing SF/Soul Stealer, there are a few different schools of thought. It also highly depends on each game what items you go and depends what opposing hero you are against. You went the more common western build of Blink Dagger / Shroud, but both is kind of overkill. I usually just see bkb/shrunken on him in more asian style, but it depends.
A lot of times (depending on heroes), bkb/shrunken head is preferred over blink/shroud. It honestly is so dependent on a huge number of things that even if you asked testie how to play SF/SS his item build (would hopefully) change based on what his team needed and enemy heroes.
That's why it's kind of weird to give advice on heroes or "item builds", it's really only good to rely on such things when just starting out. Basically the best advice is use the courier, use the hotkeys on the courier and shop (so you don't miss lasthits), and really practice the timing on lasthits for any hero you want to play. Past that you should adjust your item build on the fly and needs of the game, never follow a cookie cutter setup unless you have no idea or you understand why it makes sense in that game.
I could give more advice, but personally if I ever really want to see how to play a hero in a specific instance I usually watch Ehome/LGD replays, and you'll want to see more than one of that hero to see how they change items/gameplay on it. For instance wildsoul/sylla performs a way different role (the role it's supposed to) in LGD's or other dota team's lineups than it did in EG's because they really understand the hero and lineups it works in. Although you will have to slightly adjust for hon, it's really not that great of a change (yet) and overall will probably be better strategy.
Also pub strategy is way different than match strategy 
Giving specific advice for dota/hon is just hard to do. Just use your head and think out shit and just trial and error + watch better player replays and actually analyze their choices. It's pretty much the same for getting better at any game.
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On December 31 2010 11:47 MYM.Testie wrote:
My Resumé is as follows:
Testie
CEO and Maphacker
I should run for president.
Don't forget songwriter.
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On December 31 2010 16:48 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2010 11:47 MYM.Testie wrote:
My Resumé is as follows:
Testie
CEO and Maphacker
I should run for president. Don't forget songwriter.
Hair connoisseur.
On December 31 2010 12:44 Glull wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2010 12:24 TrainFX wrote:On December 31 2010 12:20 Alventenie wrote:On December 31 2010 12:06 TrainFX wrote:On December 31 2010 08:55 dacthehork wrote:On December 30 2010 06:49 TrainFX wrote:Ok so I used to stream league of legends super HD but now I'm playing Heroes of Newerth. Ownin it up a lil bit... went 11/1/14 with thunderbringer, we won at 36 kills so uhh do the math. 24858514 (u can look up the game im HellzFX) http://www.mediafire.com/?t9i2jg5hm117ynm (you can dl the replay there) www.livestream.com/hellzfxI'll try to get listed in about 2 months haha. check out thisthis replay for my 16/4/16 soulstealer stomp :D i got a doombringer, +250 dmg So I got a good devourer replay, sort of a tutorial of just easy stuff to do with him(pudge). http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=24900716I did pretty well haha. damn 334 gold/min on Soulstealer, dude "PRO SKILLZ" as your stream name implies can you stream some bronze SC2 too, really love seeing pro super HD skills streamed? aka just fyi, you're not good, at all. It's amazing you have good games, everyone does sometime. The thing is actual good players do it against the other top players. Please don't misinform beginners/new people that you have any idea what you are really doing or have any skill. Not to be harsh, but 1500 psr games are very low level and you definitely misrepresent yourself in your post. If anyone wants some insight into high level dota/hon , I recommend Ehome/DTS/LGD replays from dota, that's the top in terms of teamwork/skill, although some heroes don't transfer over and there is a slight difference in metagame (hon teams are lower skilled compared to chinese) almost all the concepts in terms of how to play the heroes transfer over. Hey man I'm trying to CONTRIBUTE something in the way of a stream and replays, WHAT are YOU contributing? I'm not even offering anyone advice I'm just showcasing my games. It's fine that you want to show your games and all, but you should put them into context. You're streaming a 1500ish game and telling it to people who mostly are 1700+ (quite number of us are 1800/1900+ and testie's 2k+). It's not that we want to be harsh, but the games you are playing in you could go 20-0 with almost any hero because most people are just not that strong of a player. You can stream you games, no ones stopping you, but when you brag to people who have way more psr than you they kind of will just cast you off to the side because you're being arrogant. OK if I'm so bad why don't you show me how its done and help me instead of criticizing shit. because when you brag to people who have way more psr than you they kind of will just cast you off to the side because you're being arrogant. oh, and you didnt ask.
NAW man ignore these noobie haters like Glull and Alven
they ain't got shit on your 16-4 soulstealer own4ge mang! Jealous little kiddies is all they are, they probably have like 40 apm LOL
keep streaming those games, I eat that shit up like candy coated black tar heroin on the real
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testie cares, if people start learning alternate ways to raise their psr he'll lose profit
pssssssssssst he is the maphacker
No Testie, you ARE the demons
(My HoN content is that I hate Engineer. I hate his ult. I hate his turret. I hate everything about him, he wrecks me every game he is in because I'm awful =x)
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u-U engineer doesn't bother me that much
his old turret was a lot scarier than his new one, although this new one is still decent at farming creep waves
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man i just played an epic game but lost =(
was bombadier with the spellshards scepter and refresher
other team got mega creeps but game still lasted 20 more minutes
our temp fucked it up T_T
can someone explain his boom dust for me?
i know basically what it does, but the thing that confuses me is that i see some people level that first, is it relaly worth it? they say its for last hitting but at level 1 it only does 40 damage and your base dmg is higher @ level 1 so doesnt make too much sense to me. if you put all 4 of them on one creep does it do 160 damage? i dont understand the stacking part
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On December 31 2010 20:05 BlueRoyaL wrote:
man i just played an epic game but lost =(
was bombadier with the spellshards scepter and refresher
other team got mega creeps but game still lasted 20 more minutes
our temp fucked it up T_T
can someone explain his boom dust for me?
i know basically what it does, but the thing that confuses me is that i see some people level that first, is it relaly worth it? they say its for last hitting but at level 1 it only does 40 damage and your base dmg is higher @ level 1 so doesnt make too much sense to me. if you put all 4 of them on one creep does it do 160 damage? i dont understand the stacking part
It does the extra damage one time/one boom dust. 4 boomdusts on one target means you have to hit him 4 times. If you were ganking with 3 teammates, and put 4 boomdusts on your target, and then you and each of your 3 teammates threw one auto attack, if would set off all 4 boomdusts.
People get it early because it is ridiculously strong for harassing. Throw a boomdust on someone, throw a super easy attack animation cancel auto attack with no backswing, and you've just hit someone for 1/5th their hp pool at even level 1. Bomb is a very very strong laner against melee for this reason - boomdust a creep they're last hitting or just boomdust them and hit them, over and over, for 30 mana or whatever it costs. He's a really strong babysitter for this reason but I don't like using him that way; I think farm on bomb is more useful .
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boom dust is a buff you can place on an allied or enemy unit that explodes in aoe damage to enemies when the unit is attacked (and is removed with the explosion). you can "stack" the buff up to four times, meaning the next four attacks will trigger the explosion and only then cause the buff to wear off.
so a skilled bombardier can just add the boom dust damage to any spell or attack he casts by boom dusting the enemy before dealing damage with skills or attacks. the cast animation is also extremely short, so you can attack an enemy and buff him while the projectile is in the air - essentially, your attack damage is just increased by the boom dust damage. this works for lasthits aswell.
there are more applications for the skill, but this should answer your questions.
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On December 31 2010 12:44 Glull wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2010 12:24 TrainFX wrote:On December 31 2010 12:20 Alventenie wrote:On December 31 2010 12:06 TrainFX wrote:On December 31 2010 08:55 dacthehork wrote:On December 30 2010 06:49 TrainFX wrote:Ok so I used to stream league of legends super HD but now I'm playing Heroes of Newerth. Ownin it up a lil bit... went 11/1/14 with thunderbringer, we won at 36 kills so uhh do the math. 24858514 (u can look up the game im HellzFX) http://www.mediafire.com/?t9i2jg5hm117ynm (you can dl the replay there) www.livestream.com/hellzfxI'll try to get listed in about 2 months haha. check out thisthis replay for my 16/4/16 soulstealer stomp :D i got a doombringer, +250 dmg So I got a good devourer replay, sort of a tutorial of just easy stuff to do with him(pudge). http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=24900716I did pretty well haha. damn 334 gold/min on Soulstealer, dude "PRO SKILLZ" as your stream name implies can you stream some bronze SC2 too, really love seeing pro super HD skills streamed? aka just fyi, you're not good, at all. It's amazing you have good games, everyone does sometime. The thing is actual good players do it against the other top players. Please don't misinform beginners/new people that you have any idea what you are really doing or have any skill. Not to be harsh, but 1500 psr games are very low level and you definitely misrepresent yourself in your post. If anyone wants some insight into high level dota/hon , I recommend Ehome/DTS/LGD replays from dota, that's the top in terms of teamwork/skill, although some heroes don't transfer over and there is a slight difference in metagame (hon teams are lower skilled compared to chinese) almost all the concepts in terms of how to play the heroes transfer over. Hey man I'm trying to CONTRIBUTE something in the way of a stream and replays, WHAT are YOU contributing? I'm not even offering anyone advice I'm just showcasing my games. It's fine that you want to show your games and all, but you should put them into context. You're streaming a 1500ish game and telling it to people who mostly are 1700+ (quite number of us are 1800/1900+ and testie's 2k+). It's not that we want to be harsh, but the games you are playing in you could go 20-0 with almost any hero because most people are just not that strong of a player. You can stream you games, no ones stopping you, but when you brag to people who have way more psr than you they kind of will just cast you off to the side because you're being arrogant. OK if I'm so bad why don't you show me how its done and help me instead of criticizing shit. because when you brag to people who have way more psr than you they kind of will just cast you off to the side because you're being arrogant. oh, and you didnt ask.
That replay is from me playing after just 5 days. I'm still not very good at the game and I lose a lot of the MM and I just leave lol, i miss DoTa...
I don't really care if you all want to play with me or not because I've managed to get pretty good in all the other games I've played and I'm pub stomping a new game in 5 days, so my play must be ignored and dismissed?
Anyways, I'll be posting more replays.
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It's not so much your play. More like your attitude...
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Hey Guys,
This is Testie comin' at ya with a brand new track. Check it out at my twitter! @TestiE
I also have a stream up for those interested, at LiveStream.com/TestieHatesPeopleLikeThis
you can post your fanboy comments in my PSR farming site at PSRMasters.com where I help YOU acquire the PSR you deserve.
I'm a top contender on HoN and one of the best players ever. You can check out my replays here at www.heroesofnewerth.com or i'll post them periodically here. What I do is all for you guys to help you out, because I'm so much more talented and beautiful that you should just watch me rather than having fun in your own games.
I also run lessons at CosuGoaching.com where I should be commanding $1000 an hour as a legend of equal status like Michael Jordan, but I'll give you lessons for just $50 an hour! What a deal! You get to breath the air I breath and listen to my voice, that shit is so cash, np. Anyway
Check out my livestream and help me exploit fanboys and get famous help me spread my knowledge to make you guys all better players.
Don't forget to click the links/ join my facebook group / share with your friends all about the essence of me. Remember, I'm Testie. Living Legend. Previous best Starcraft foreigner and guy who is only slightly worse than Chu at HoN. (Better, I meant better).
pce out guys catch you later i'll post again soon, and thanks!
+ Show Spoiler +Before I get banned I actually don't have a problem with the whole gosucoaching idea, I just threw it in the post for flavour.
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oh man i wanna be a cosu so bad, goach me pls testie!! :D
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On January 01 2011 04:00 MYM.Testie wrote:
Previous best Starcraft foreigner and guy who is only slightly worse than Chu at HoN. (Better, I meant better).
gold. hahaha
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