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Glull
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany404 Posts
December 31 2010 00:09 GMT
#22561
while i agree that watching top dota replays will help you understand both games if you watch them with an open mind, the logical and easiest way to approach high level hon as a new or inexperienced player is to watch high level hon.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 31 2010 00:36 GMT
#22562
On December 31 2010 08:55 dacthehork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 06:49 TrainFX wrote:
Ok so I used to stream league of legends super HD but now I'm playing Heroes of Newerth. Ownin it up a lil bit...

went 11/1/14 with thunderbringer, we won at 36 kills so uhh do the math.
24858514
(u can look up the game im HellzFX)
http://www.mediafire.com/?t9i2jg5hm117ynm (you can dl the replay there)

www.livestream.com/hellzfx

I'll try to get listed in about 2 months haha.

check out thisthis replay for my 16/4/16 soulstealer stomp :D i got a doombringer, +250 dmg


So I got a good devourer replay, sort of a tutorial of just easy stuff to do with him(pudge).

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=24900716

I did pretty well haha.


damn 334 gold/min on Soulstealer, dude "PRO SKILLZ" as your stream name implies

can you stream some bronze SC2 too, really love seeing pro super HD skills streamed?

aka just fyi, you're not good, at all. It's amazing you have good games, everyone does sometime. The thing is actual good players do it against the other top players. Please don't misinform beginners/new people that you have any idea what you are really doing or have any skill. Not to be harsh, but 1500 psr games are very low level and you definitely misrepresent yourself in your post.

If anyone wants some insight into high level dota/hon , I recommend Ehome/DTS/LGD replays from dota, that's the top in terms of teamwork/skill, although some heroes don't transfer over and there is a slight difference in metagame (hon teams are lower skilled compared to chinese) almost all the concepts in terms of how to play the heroes transfer over.

if you want some insight into high level dota you watch high level dota and if you want insight into high level hon you watch high level hon.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 31 2010 00:40 GMT
#22563
Or if you have critical thinking skills, watch either. Both games boils down to individual decision making and team coordination.
Get it by your hands...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 31 2010 00:55 GMT
#22564
On December 31 2010 09:40 Judicator wrote:
Or if you have critical thinking skills, watch either. Both games boils down to individual decision making and team coordination.

the problem is you have

1. dumb commentators or lack of good commentary
2. different heroes, different metagame with different lineups and playing styles
3. people cant learn the game that fast, before "critical thinking skills" can be used new people have to figure out how to use them because of the amount of knowledge required for the game.

it's just better to learn the game you're playing first then learn the differences
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
December 31 2010 00:57 GMT
#22565
On December 31 2010 09:40 Judicator wrote:
Or if you have critical thinking skills, watch either. Both games boils down to individual decision making and team coordination.


Yeah basically, in terms of actual game strategy, roles etc and most game dynamics it's pretty similar between dota/hon. If anything the dota teams are much smarter strategically in a lot of ways (more competition, more tournaments, more teams, and asia dota popularity in particular). For instance EG wildsoul vs Dota Syllabears, EG used it completely wrong, and in a trilane to boot.

well in general there is also a lot more high level dota (more reps, more styles, more teams), plus the top dota teams are way more dedicated (chinese pros etc). I mean MSI is kind of up there but not quite. I would say that you could learn a lot more from SMM 2010 than any recent HoN tournament.
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
December 31 2010 01:55 GMT
#22566
basically if alv gives you advice then it's good advice. everyone else is either terrible or they don't care... or a maphacker.

in regards to hon that is.
not saying everything posted by others has been garbage, but most of it is inaccurate. usually due to a skewed perspective.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 31 2010 02:14 GMT
#22567
On December 31 2010 10:55 Etherone wrote:
basically if alv gives you advice then it's good advice. everyone else is either terrible or they don't care... or a maphacker.

in regards to hon that is.
not saying everything posted by others has been garbage, but most of it is inaccurate. usually due to a skewed perspective.

testie cares, if people start learning alternate ways to raise their psr he'll lose profit
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
December 31 2010 02:22 GMT
#22568
On December 31 2010 11:14 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 10:55 Etherone wrote:
basically if alv gives you advice then it's good advice. everyone else is either terrible or they don't care... or a maphacker.

in regards to hon that is.
not saying everything posted by others has been garbage, but most of it is inaccurate. usually due to a skewed perspective.

testie cares, if people start learning alternate ways to raise their psr he'll lose profit

pssssssssssst

he is the maphacker
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
December 31 2010 02:23 GMT
#22569
Still can't log in...fuck these Seattle nodes
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 31 2010 02:43 GMT
#22570
On December 31 2010 11:22 Etherone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 11:14 rabidch wrote:
On December 31 2010 10:55 Etherone wrote:
basically if alv gives you advice then it's good advice. everyone else is either terrible or they don't care... or a maphacker.

in regards to hon that is.
not saying everything posted by others has been garbage, but most of it is inaccurate. usually due to a skewed perspective.

testie cares, if people start learning alternate ways to raise their psr he'll lose profit

pssssssssssst

he is the maphacker

WHAT? TESTIES A MAPHACKER?

oh my god... all my hopes and dreams im so disappointed, testie is the hon player i aspired to be and now i found out hes a maphacker. i feel so betrayed


i was even thinking about paying him to raise my psr
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
December 31 2010 02:47 GMT
#22571
My Resumé is as follows:
Testie
CEO and Maphacker
I should run for president.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
December 31 2010 02:47 GMT
#22572
I support Testie for president!
@QxGDarkCell ._.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 02:56:01
December 31 2010 02:49 GMT
#22573
On December 31 2010 11:47 MYM.Testie wrote:
My Resumé is as follows:
Testie
CEO and Maphacker
I should run for president.

you forgot "rage filled troll who has nothing of value to say"

err i mean

"rage filled troll who never says anything of value"

oh yeah

and canada doesnt have a president
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
December 31 2010 02:56 GMT
#22574
wheres the slightly padded list
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
TrainFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 03:12:27
December 31 2010 03:06 GMT
#22575
On December 31 2010 08:55 dacthehork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 06:49 TrainFX wrote:
Ok so I used to stream league of legends super HD but now I'm playing Heroes of Newerth. Ownin it up a lil bit...

went 11/1/14 with thunderbringer, we won at 36 kills so uhh do the math.
24858514
(u can look up the game im HellzFX)
http://www.mediafire.com/?t9i2jg5hm117ynm (you can dl the replay there)

www.livestream.com/hellzfx

I'll try to get listed in about 2 months haha.

check out thisthis replay for my 16/4/16 soulstealer stomp :D i got a doombringer, +250 dmg


So I got a good devourer replay, sort of a tutorial of just easy stuff to do with him(pudge).

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=24900716

I did pretty well haha.


damn 334 gold/min on Soulstealer, dude "PRO SKILLZ" as your stream name implies

can you stream some bronze SC2 too, really love seeing pro super HD skills streamed?

aka just fyi, you're not good, at all. It's amazing you have good games, everyone does sometime. The thing is actual good players do it against the other top players. Please don't misinform beginners/new people that you have any idea what you are really doing or have any skill. Not to be harsh, but 1500 psr games are very low level and you definitely misrepresent yourself in your post.

If anyone wants some insight into high level dota/hon , I recommend Ehome/DTS/LGD replays from dota, that's the top in terms of teamwork/skill, although some heroes don't transfer over and there is a slight difference in metagame (hon teams are lower skilled compared to chinese) almost all the concepts in terms of how to play the heroes transfer over.


Hey man I'm trying to CONTRIBUTE something in the way of a stream and replays, WHAT are YOU contributing?


I'm not even offering anyone advice I'm just showcasing my games.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
December 31 2010 03:10 GMT
#22576
On December 31 2010 11:56 Superiorwolf wrote:
wheres the slightly padded list


Just slightly.
Hates Fun🤔
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
December 31 2010 03:16 GMT
#22577
On December 31 2010 11:49 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 11:47 MYM.Testie wrote:
My Resumé is as follows:
Testie
CEO and Maphacker
I should run for president.

you forgot "rage filled troll who has nothing of value to say"

err i mean

"rage filled troll who never says anything of value"

oh yeah

and canada doesnt have a president

they have the queen, im sure testie can fit the bill
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
December 31 2010 03:17 GMT
#22578


almost 4 full minutes of pure playguuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Glull
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany404 Posts
December 31 2010 03:20 GMT
#22579
this page hurts my feelings
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
December 31 2010 03:20 GMT
#22580
On December 31 2010 12:06 TrainFX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 08:55 dacthehork wrote:
On December 30 2010 06:49 TrainFX wrote:
Ok so I used to stream league of legends super HD but now I'm playing Heroes of Newerth. Ownin it up a lil bit...

went 11/1/14 with thunderbringer, we won at 36 kills so uhh do the math.
24858514
(u can look up the game im HellzFX)
http://www.mediafire.com/?t9i2jg5hm117ynm (you can dl the replay there)

www.livestream.com/hellzfx

I'll try to get listed in about 2 months haha.

check out thisthis replay for my 16/4/16 soulstealer stomp :D i got a doombringer, +250 dmg


So I got a good devourer replay, sort of a tutorial of just easy stuff to do with him(pudge).

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=24900716

I did pretty well haha.


damn 334 gold/min on Soulstealer, dude "PRO SKILLZ" as your stream name implies

can you stream some bronze SC2 too, really love seeing pro super HD skills streamed?

aka just fyi, you're not good, at all. It's amazing you have good games, everyone does sometime. The thing is actual good players do it against the other top players. Please don't misinform beginners/new people that you have any idea what you are really doing or have any skill. Not to be harsh, but 1500 psr games are very low level and you definitely misrepresent yourself in your post.

If anyone wants some insight into high level dota/hon , I recommend Ehome/DTS/LGD replays from dota, that's the top in terms of teamwork/skill, although some heroes don't transfer over and there is a slight difference in metagame (hon teams are lower skilled compared to chinese) almost all the concepts in terms of how to play the heroes transfer over.


Hey man I'm trying to CONTRIBUTE something in the way of a stream and replays, WHAT are YOU contributing?


I'm not even offering anyone advice I'm just showcasing my games.




It's fine that you want to show your games and all, but you should put them into context. You're streaming a 1500ish game and telling it to people who mostly are 1700+ (quite number of us are 1800/1900+ and testie's 2k+). It's not that we want to be harsh, but the games you are playing in you could go 20-0 with almost any hero because most people are just not that strong of a player. You can stream you games, no ones stopping you, but when you brag to people who have way more psr than you they kind of will just cast you off to the side because you're being arrogant.
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