Blacksmith is a good mid hero actually. He has extreme burst damage, very strong vs low hp heroes. Probably not viable in competitive play but he's a strong pubber. TB is stronger though, damn I hate TB.

Glull

Germany404 Posts

January 01 2011 16:47 GMT

#22622

spellshards are usually a waste of gold on blacksmith - the main reason to buy the item is the ignoring of magic armor, and above level 1 spellshards just allow you to stun before your hammer hits without losing damage. your flaming hammer damage also increases by about 10%/lvl, but thats hardly reason to buy an item for 2575 gold.
the only scenario where it is worth buying is if you have all others items you need to survive/gank with the hero and the enemy team has +magic armor via skills or items. and even then you usually would rather have a disable item like stormspirit or sheepstick.

just dont buy it unless you know you need it, and i can almost guarantee you that wont happen.

Manit0u

Poland17636 Posts

January 01 2011 16:47 GMT

#22623

On January 02 2011 01:15 Alventenie wrote:
I hate blacksmith, hes easily my worst hero in the game. For some reason his animation sucks for me and i always find myself with no mana, ever.

Blacksmith has real issues with mana, that's true. That's why I'm going chalice first, then sspirit and switch chalice for null if cash allows (getting ss and orb provides decent manapool and regen for him already). And his attack animation is ok, I find no problem with him denying/lasthitting, with hatchet he's pretty damn good at it.
Also, I find his bloodlust to be pretty uber, although ult should make it always multicast. Hasting your carrys with it is god damn awesome.

@glull: I know that shards won't help bs much (they should make sotm work with him like with ogre in dota, 2k dmg from fireball was sweet) but if your team is spellcaster heavy it could be a nice addition, spreading aoe -magic armor with your dot.

Glull

Germany404 Posts

January 01 2011 16:55 GMT

#22624

the problem with his animation is that the damage point, sound and animation dont feel natural - he swings as if he would fall over, the sound comes after the animation "touches" the target and sounds like hitting a nail, the damage is dealt when he is already pulling back his arm. thats how it feels for me, at least. i dont have trouble lasthitting with him, but it is annoying and i see why it could be hard. i have that problem with forsaken sometimes.

as to the mana issues... never really had trouble there, you just have to be careful with overkill. many people always mindlessly spam both skills where one nuke would have done the job nicely.
i also usually play blacksmith with bottle and chalice - you dont want to be dependant on items for 2500+ gold to sustain casting your spells on a ganker.

Glull

Germany404 Posts

January 01 2011 16:58 GMT

#22625

note that spellshards ignoring magic armor is not an aura and not a buff, it is a passive effect. there is no benefit for your teammates.

Manit0u

Poland17636 Posts

January 01 2011 17:12 GMT

#22626

Oh, I thought it applies a debuff to everything hit with your spells (kinda like frostwolf with regular attacks). In this case I see no reason to be getting them either.

TrainFX

United States469 Posts

January 01 2011 18:15 GMT

#22627

You guys I got banned from MM because I left to many games when we lost! hahaha

So now I'm in the PSR grinding out noobs

Im in a game right now as dev 5/0/3 and the whole other team left bfore 15 mins lol.

Manit0u

Poland17636 Posts

January 01 2011 20:23 GMT

#22628

Could someone please get him out of this thread?

Etherone

United States1898 Posts

January 01 2011 20:26 GMT

#22629

On January 02 2011 05:23 Manit0u wrote:
Could someone please get him out of this thread?

why? He is in a game RIGHT NOW, he alt tabbed and posted while his 5-0 dev walked across the map.

Manit0u

Poland17636 Posts

January 01 2011 20:39 GMT

#22630

He can save such revelations for his Twitter.

Ethenielle

Norway1006 Posts

January 01 2011 22:27 GMT

#22631

I think its pretty interesting. TrainFX, I am looking forward to a Devourer tutorial. When can we expect it? I am 1348 psr myself, and I think I could learn a lot from your play!

TrainFX

United States469 Posts

January 01 2011 23:31 GMT

#22632

i feel so loved by my fellow players. I'll edit this post with a link to the replay!

edit1:
9/1 dev.

I was 5/0 when they all left cuz we raped them but then I went to the fountain for some coin farming :D

edit2:
WOOPS FORGOT TO ADD LINK LOL

http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=25122081

Risen

United States7927 Posts

January 01 2011 23:33 GMT

#22633

I can't tell whether he's entirely serious or not :/

Anywho, we need to get some TMM going tonight

paper

13196 Posts

January 02 2011 00:42 GMT

#22634

YO TRAINFX, make a twitter for your HON UPDATEZ and I'll add it to the OP for REAL-TIME UPDATEZ.

TrainFX

United States469 Posts

January 02 2011 01:06 GMT

#22635

On January 02 2011 09:42 paper wrote:
YO TRAINFX, make a twitter for your HON UPDATEZ and I'll add it to the OP for REAL-TIME UPDATEZ.

i have a twitter account already, do ya'll want the tag?

assajocuna

Korea (South)125 Posts

January 02 2011 01:11 GMT

#22636

anyone interested in a new aos map (starcraft 2 custom map) check out 'city of tempest' in the custom map forum. It's ranked no.1 in korea right now and just got released in NA server few hours ago.

RonNation

United States385 Posts

January 02 2011 01:12 GMT

#22637

ive played like 20 hours of hon in the last 2 days haha

TrainFX

United States469 Posts

January 02 2011 01:19 GMT

#22638

On January 02 2011 10:11 assajocuna wrote:
anyone interested in a new aos map (starcraft 2 custom map) check out 'city of tempest' in the custom map forum. It's ranked no.1 in korea right now and just got released in NA server few hours ago.

I got GLOBAL_INTERNAL_ERROR when I tried to login to battle net but umm when I can I'll play the map.

Ethenielle

Norway1006 Posts

January 02 2011 01:47 GMT

#22639

On January 02 2011 10:06 TrainFX wrote:

Show nested quote +

i have a twitter account already, do ya'll want the tag?

Yes please! :-)

Would also love to see the Devourer replay.