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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
January 29 2008 23:44 GMT
#161
On January 30 2008 06:52 holy_war wrote:
Leaked brawl characters:

http://s248.photobucket.com/albums/gg181/xblah/ssbm/?action=view&current=up254065.jpg


cartoon link haha, awesome. i can't wait to play this game.
good vibes only
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-30 01:09:24
January 30 2008 01:03 GMT
#162
On January 30 2008 06:27 sanftm00d wrote:
since there is no official release date for europe yet, does anybody know wether it is possible to play american version on european wii?

i dont want to wait till june or october to play ssbb...so i would preorder it from an american distributor or something


No, the Wii is region locked. Unless you modchip it (which currently isn't even possible as far as region unlocking goes, I don't think), not happening. :>
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-30 02:08:29
January 30 2008 02:02 GMT
#163
So many people are upset about the current roster on Smashboards. I never realized people were so devoted to certain characters >.<

I personally find it hilarious that people are complaining about getting ONLY 35 playable characters. Sounds like a lot to me =/
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
January 30 2008 02:17 GMT
#164
On January 30 2008 11:02 Tsagacity wrote:
So many people are upset about the current roster on Smashboards. I never realized people were so devoted to certain characters >.<

I personally find it hilarious that people are complaining about getting ONLY 35 playable characters. Sounds like a lot to me =/


which characters are they angry about?
good vibes only
crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
January 30 2008 02:27 GMT
#165
On January 28 2008 08:51 jngngshk321 wrote:

i remember kirby was pretty cool in the n64 version, how come no one uses him?


Well, in Brawl it looks as though Kirby is back! From the videos and others' comments they say he's closer to this n64 counter part. IM SO HAPPY!!!!!!!! <----- Kirby lover if you didin't notice
naventus
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1337 Posts
January 30 2008 02:32 GMT
#166
cf and jiggly are back! great stuff.
hmm.
sith
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2474 Posts
January 30 2008 03:12 GMT
#167
On January 30 2008 11:17 Meta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2008 11:02 Tsagacity wrote:
So many people are upset about the current roster on Smashboards. I never realized people were so devoted to certain characters >.<

I personally find it hilarious that people are complaining about getting ONLY 35 playable characters. Sounds like a lot to me =/


which characters are they angry about?


Well this has 35, melee had 25 (with 6 moveset clones). We don't know how many of the 35 in brawl will be clones, but we can assume that it will be similar to the same amount.
Here are the clones in melee:
[image loading]


Here are some likely candidates for clones in brawl

[image loading]


That said, I don't understand why people are angry with losing characters. They lost 4 in total, 3 of which are clones (one of those clones also being redone as toon link instead of young link). So really the only loss is mewtwo. While cool, he sucked pretty hard so w/e. Maybe he just hasn't been unlocked yet in the current leak. Graphic of lost characters:
[image loading]


tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3696 Posts
January 30 2008 03:23 GMT
#168
On January 30 2008 12:12 sith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2008 11:17 Meta wrote:
On January 30 2008 11:02 Tsagacity wrote:
So many people are upset about the current roster on Smashboards. I never realized people were so devoted to certain characters >.<

I personally find it hilarious that people are complaining about getting ONLY 35 playable characters. Sounds like a lot to me =/


which characters are they angry about?


Well this has 35, melee had 25 (with 6 moveset clones). We don't know how many of the 35 in brawl will be clones, but we can assume that it will be similar to the same amount.
Here are the clones in melee:
<Image Cut>

Here are some likely candidates for clones in brawl

[image loading]


That said, I don't understand why people are angry with losing characters. They lost 4 in total, 3 of which are clones (one of those clones also being redone as toon link instead of young link). So really the only loss is mewtwo. While cool, he sucked pretty hard so w/e. Maybe he just hasn't been unlocked yet in the current leak. Graphic of lost characters:
<Image Cut>


Yeah, its really not a big loss, imo. Also, I'd like to point out that one of your "candidates for cloning" is assuredly not a clone, and that is DK and Diddy. Another point is that there is a general belief on Smashboards that Sakurai has stated there are *no* clones at all in brawl. Not sure if its true or not as I don't even remember reading the original source, but its worth throwing out there.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
sith
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2474 Posts
January 30 2008 03:30 GMT
#169
On January 30 2008 12:23 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2008 12:12 sith wrote:
On January 30 2008 11:17 Meta wrote:
On January 30 2008 11:02 Tsagacity wrote:
So many people are upset about the current roster on Smashboards. I never realized people were so devoted to certain characters >.<

I personally find it hilarious that people are complaining about getting ONLY 35 playable characters. Sounds like a lot to me =/


which characters are they angry about?


Well this has 35, melee had 25 (with 6 moveset clones). We don't know how many of the 35 in brawl will be clones, but we can assume that it will be similar to the same amount.
Here are the clones in melee:
<Image Cut>

Here are some likely candidates for clones in brawl

[image loading]


That said, I don't understand why people are angry with losing characters. They lost 4 in total, 3 of which are clones (one of those clones also being redone as toon link instead of young link). So really the only loss is mewtwo. While cool, he sucked pretty hard so w/e. Maybe he just hasn't been unlocked yet in the current leak. Graphic of lost characters:
<Image Cut>


Yeah, its really not a big loss, imo. Also, I'd like to point out that one of your "candidates for cloning" is assuredly not a clone, and that is DK and Diddy. Another point is that there is a general belief on Smashboards that Sakurai has stated there are *no* clones at all in brawl. Not sure if its true or not as I don't even remember reading the original source, but its worth throwing out there.


Yeah I didn't feel like looking on the website to see if some of the characters were confirmed not clones, was just going by how i thought it would play out.

Sakurai may have a different definition of "clone" than the general public. However, that would be underhanded and pretty deceitful. Even assuming all 6 remaining are clones, thats amazing to have 29 distinct movesets in the game. Imagine how great 35 will be!
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3696 Posts
January 30 2008 04:02 GMT
#170
On January 30 2008 12:30 sith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2008 12:23 tec27 wrote:
On January 30 2008 12:12 sith wrote:
On January 30 2008 11:17 Meta wrote:
On January 30 2008 11:02 Tsagacity wrote:
So many people are upset about the current roster on Smashboards. I never realized people were so devoted to certain characters >.<

I personally find it hilarious that people are complaining about getting ONLY 35 playable characters. Sounds like a lot to me =/


which characters are they angry about?


Well this has 35, melee had 25 (with 6 moveset clones). We don't know how many of the 35 in brawl will be clones, but we can assume that it will be similar to the same amount.
Here are the clones in melee:
<Image Cut>

Here are some likely candidates for clones in brawl

[image loading]


That said, I don't understand why people are angry with losing characters. They lost 4 in total, 3 of which are clones (one of those clones also being redone as toon link instead of young link). So really the only loss is mewtwo. While cool, he sucked pretty hard so w/e. Maybe he just hasn't been unlocked yet in the current leak. Graphic of lost characters:
<Image Cut>


Yeah, its really not a big loss, imo. Also, I'd like to point out that one of your "candidates for cloning" is assuredly not a clone, and that is DK and Diddy. Another point is that there is a general belief on Smashboards that Sakurai has stated there are *no* clones at all in brawl. Not sure if its true or not as I don't even remember reading the original source, but its worth throwing out there.


Yeah I didn't feel like looking on the website to see if some of the characters were confirmed not clones, was just going by how i thought it would play out.

Sakurai may have a different definition of "clone" than the general public. However, that would be underhanded and pretty deceitful. Even assuming all 6 remaining are clones, thats amazing to have 29 distinct movesets in the game. Imagine how great 35 will be!

Yeah, it looks quite amazing Also, keep in mind that 3 of the characters have 2 or more distinct movesets on their own (Zelda/Shiek, Samus/Zamus, and Pokemon Trainer's 3 different pokemon). That brings the total up to 32/38 distinct movesets. Man, waiting til March will be so hard
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
January 30 2008 04:22 GMT
#171
More stuff:
http://kotaku.com/350347/super-smash-bros-brawl-leaks-turn-to-flood
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-30 04:37:19
January 30 2008 04:28 GMT
#172
What I've read about Ike and seen in Youtube gameplay videos suggests to me that he's not a Marth clone. There is some similarity in his sword play, but I am very confident that his style will be very different (a summary of E for All named Ike an incredibly slow character in terms of attack speed)

If you want to judge for yourself here are Ike and Marth in action (Ike in first vid, Marth in second) Supposedly it's hard to tell how slow Ike's actions are on video because there is a timing delay before a lot of his attacks.




I'm completely fine with clones if there is enough difference between the two characters. To be honest when I'm choosing between Falco/Fox in melee I don't think of them as clones anymore >.<

Hopefully Sakurai provided even more variety between clones this time around.

On January 30 2008 12:12 sith wrote:

So really the only loss is mewtwo. While cool, he sucked pretty hard so w/e. Maybe he just hasn't been unlocked yet in the current leak. Graphic of lost characters:
[image loading]




I'm tempted to call the cartoon Link from Wind Waker just a new iteration of Young Link. I haven't seen his move set though. Also some of Lucario's (a new pokemon that I know nothing about) pictures remind me of Mewtwo, so who knows

As for the angry, there seem to be a lot of people who think that, since the game has been in production for so long, that there should be a "massive roster". I consider 35 pretty massive, but apparently some people were expecting 40+ (I've still seen some people act like 40 isn't enough).

I'm more interested in balancing a small roster and providing awesome online play. I feel like if these same people that are complaining about SSBB became interested in SC2 then they would be in our forums posting "WTF WHY DON'T WE GET 5 PLAYABLE RACES!!?"

Off-topic: Has anyone seen the music lists, or listened to the music? When finally checked it out all my fears of disappointment were gone. The amount of money and time they must have spent on all these classic songs/composers makes me pretty confident that this game will be fucking amazing
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3696 Posts
January 30 2008 04:40 GMT
#173
On January 30 2008 13:28 Tsagacity wrote:
I'm tempted to call the cartoon Link from Wind Waker just a new iteration of Young Link. I haven't seen his move set though. Also some of Lucario's (a new pokemon that I know nothing about) pictures remind me of Mewtwo, so who knows

As for the angry, there seem to be a lot of people who think that, since the game has been in production for so long, that there should be a "massive roster". I consider 35 pretty massive, but apparently some people were expecting 40+ (I've still seen some people act like 40 isn't enough).

I'm more interested in balancing a small roster and providing awesome online play. I feel like if these same people that are complaining about SSBB became interested in SC2 then they would be in our forums posting "WTF WHY DON'T WE GET 5 PLAYABLE RACES!!?"

Off-topic: Has anyone seen the music lists, or listened to the music? When finally checked it out all my fears of disappointment were gone. The amount of money and time they must have spent on all these classic songs/composers makes me pretty confident that this game will be fucking amazing

Agreed on all points. And that starting music list they released today was absolutely MASSIVE.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-30 05:04:42
January 30 2008 05:04 GMT
#174
Fox and Falco are not clones. Fox is all about the dair/shine grab/dthrow/waveshine combos whereas Falco is more about pillars and shffling lazers.

-.-

Anyway, all this leaked info is crazy. It seems R.O.B. is causing the greatest stir from everyone in the community.
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Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-30 06:27:59
January 30 2008 05:18 GMT
#175
On January 30 2008 14:04 ZaplinG wrote:
Fox and Falco are not clones. Fox is all about the dair/shine grab/dthrow/waveshine combos whereas Falco is more about pillars and shffling lazers.

-.-


That was exactly my point. A lot of people complain because the moves look the same, but mechanics make all the difference.

A new gameplay video suggests that there are definitely similarities between Lucario and Mewtwo:



WOW, this video(below) shows amazing potential for the level editor.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YmFhcebChAI

^The Ridley boss music in that video is perfect. Spontaneous falling blocks reminds me of the space station self destruct at the start of Super Metroid =p
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3696 Posts
January 30 2008 06:15 GMT
#176
http://youtube.com/user/ShadowHero1991 - That guy has a bunch of new leaked videos in his profile. Now I'm even more excited
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
January 30 2008 06:49 GMT
#177
I dislike moving stages. It always feels like you are fighting to stay on the course rather than fighting your opponent
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
January 30 2008 06:56 GMT
#178
I'm just glad Mr. Game and Watch is back.
d.arkive
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States843 Posts
January 30 2008 21:12 GMT
#179
STAR WOOLLLFFFF!

...can't let you do that fox...

so, this guy is the 35 character. He has very similar moves to fox/falco, except his dash angles 25degrees, his firefox has no chargeup, and his lazer is slower/stronger. He also has different A moves. Seems to be more powerful.

...his Final Smash is the same as both falco and fox's though
"Refrigerator. Refrigerator, damn you. Refrigerator."~Spiritofthetuna, speaking in Haiku after losing
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
January 31 2008 02:54 GMT
#180
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