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Elentos
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PoulsenB
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looks like they kept the core mechanics from ME3, which is a good thing  | ||
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Elentos
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Disengaged
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PoulsenB
Poland7735 Posts
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Bacillus
Finland2035 Posts
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ApocAlypsE007
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Plansix
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Theoren
Canada810 Posts
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
I've loved games that had horrible reviews and hated games that had good reviews. Shows much reviews means to me. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
I made the mistake to watch funny stuff about the Andromeda footage so far, and I will not be able to unsee those. So i broke the game for myself. So one that seeks the immersion might want to avoid streams. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On March 16 2017 09:02 Plansix wrote: I prefer varied opinions rather than everyone singing a games praises. Even the Witcher 3 or Zelda: BotW. It is cool if some folks just are not into those games and write about why. I'm with you on that, but if someone says "Witcher 3 is boring like watching paint dry", he clearly shouldn't review that game. Because it objectively isn't. I've heard people say "i didn't like Schindlers List", which is fine, but you won't see someone review Schindlers List who has "Rambo II" as his all time favourite movie in his resumee. Sidenote, i actually played it for around 3 hours (EA Access or what it's called, wanted to see if i have to preorder). Preordered now. It's not without flaw, rarely a game is - but i personally enjoy it a lot, as someone who likes Sci-Fi RPGs. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 16 2017 21:48 m4ini wrote: I'm with you on that, but if someone says "Witcher 3 is boring like watching paint dry", he clearly shouldn't review that game. Because it objectively isn't. I've heard people say "i didn't like Schindlers List", which is fine, but you won't see someone review Schindlers List who has "Rambo II" as his all time favourite movie in his resumee. Sidenote, i actually played it for around 3 hours (EA Access or what it's called, wanted to see if i have to preorder). Preordered now. It's not without flaw, rarely a game is - but i personally enjoy it a lot, as someone who likes Sci-Fi RPGs. That is just bad writing in general and a poorly framed opinion. If someone loved Rambo II but didn’t like Schindlers List, I would at least like to hear their reasoning. There are plenty of deeply flawed movies that I love(Avatar) and some critically acclaimed movies that just don’t grab me. Someone can respect that the Witcher 3 is a well made game and find it dull as bricks. It is why I like to read a variety of views on games. I never would have gotten deep into Far Cry 2 if people didn’t keep talking about all the reasons they like that deeply flawed game. | ||
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m4ini
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On March 16 2017 22:36 Plansix wrote: That is just bad writing in general and a poorly framed opinion. If someone loved Rambo II but didn’t like Schindlers List, I would at least like to hear their reasoning. There are plenty of deeply flawed movies that I love(Avatar) and some critically acclaimed movies that just don’t grab me. Someone can respect that the Witcher 3 is a well made game and find it dull as bricks. It is why I like to read a variety of views on games. I never would have gotten deep into Far Cry 2 if people didn’t keep talking about all the reasons they like that deeply flawed game. Oh sure, i personally didn't like Avatar (i feel like there's no need for a metaphor to have a decent movie about the US past), but i don't mind the Transformers movies too much. The later ones got hammered, i got two hours of explosions out of it, so all good. There's a big difference, as a reviewer, to say "the game is boring", or "i can't get along with the game". It's like saying "the color red is shit". It's an idiotic statement to make, and to me, disqualifies your opinion completely. If you say "i think red is shit", sure, why not. We can discuss it, or agree to disagree while accepting that there's people out there that think different. If you argue like your opinion is an established baseline, gtfo. Especially if it's a no brainer like Witcher 3, which is pretty much one of the best games made in the last decade. Unarguably. Yeah, it might not be your setting (i personally like Sci Fi/Cyberpunk more, yay Cyberpunk 2077). Or you might not like RPGs in general. Not realising that the game isn't catering to you and still call it shit makes you just a shitty reviewer though. Not because it's a negative review, but because you can't see that not the game in that case is the problem. Now i'm expecting a bit different with Mass Effect Andromeda, it has flaws. Especially compared to older games in the series, so you can certainly make good points (when was the last time you had to uninstall software to make your game run - if you have Corsair Utility Engine installed, like me for my keyboard, all you get is a blackscreen), which i would admit in a hardbeat to. I think things like these shouldn't happen, and they should be pointed out/taken into consideration while reviewing a game. edit: in regards to Schindlers List/Rambo, nah. It's like me asking a vegetarian why he doesn't like steak. I know the answer. "It's meat." - or in the movie comparison, it's "no explosions". The only reason i would wanna hear that reasoning is to confirm what i already know: the movie isn't tailored to his interests. edit2: actually, a better example of a recently reviewed game: Ghost Recon Wildlands. Fans hate it, reviewers go "meh", but some reviewers to the extra mile to point out that the "meh" part changes a bit once you play it coop. Still not a masterpiece, but certainly a lot of fun. I can agree that, if i'd play singleplayer, i would've uninstalled the game by now. If i go by most reviews, i wouldn't even buy it - if it weren't for the few reviews that pointed out that it certainly is worth giving it a shot in coop. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
But its totally unoriginal gameplay only further highlights how bad the entire framing of the game is. It game’s plot is literally Clear and Present Danger without all that preachy stuff about how secret wars based on vengeance are super bad. As one person said “the characters are so terrible you end up hoping the drug lords will win.” Its like the game wants to be Just Cause, but then decided they should set the game in a real country that they researched on a wiki a couple time a week. If someone has fun with that game with buddies, more power to them. But I hope they can understand why a lot of people are ripping into that game for being super lazy. | ||
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ApocAlypsE007
Israel1007 Posts
1. The character creator is horrible, huge downgrade from DA:I and even the first Mass Effect. It seems it's very hard to make a decent looking character and there are far too few options. 2. Facial animations are terrible as seen in preview material, there is hope for improvement in day 1 patch, but it's Bioware so we are stuck with it. 3. Story is pretty good, some dodgy pacing in the prologue but overall looking forward to play the entire game. 4. Combat is the best in the franchise. All guns have the proper kicks and it's fun mixing and matching abilities. 5. Performance reports are all over the place. Some say there are bad slowdowns while others play it very well on sub-par PC's. I guess its similar to DA:I. That game works better on AMD GPUs. I don't give 1 & 2 as much importance compared to 3-5, but its very disappointing that the different Bioware teams don't seem to communicate with each other. Also expect the launch to be rocky, Bioware aren't very good programmers. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On March 16 2017 21:48 m4ini wrote: I'm with you on that, but if someone says "Witcher 3 is boring like watching paint dry", he clearly shouldn't review that game. Because it objectively isn't. I've heard people say "i didn't like Schindlers List", which is fine, but you won't see someone review Schindlers List who has "Rambo II" as his all time favourite movie in his resumee. Sidenote, i actually played it for around 3 hours (EA Access or what it's called, wanted to see if i have to preorder). Preordered now. It's not without flaw, rarely a game is - but i personally enjoy it a lot, as someone who likes Sci-Fi RPGs. He didn't review the Witcher 3. The comment was a tweet: RPS's official TW3 review was quite favorable, and quite long: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/05/29/the-witcher-3-review-pc/ | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10140 Posts
Oh well, i will wait for user reviews anyways. | ||
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Tula
Austria1544 Posts
On March 16 2017 23:34 ApocAlypsE007 wrote: After reading a few non-spoilery opinions from people who played the early access there are couple of points that stand out: 1. The character creator is horrible, huge downgrade from DA:I and even the first Mass Effect. It seems it's very hard to make a decent looking character and there are far too few options. 2. Facial animations are terrible as seen in preview material, there is hope for improvement in day 1 patch, but it's Bioware so we are stuck with it. I don't give 1 & 2 as much importance compared to 3-5, but its very disappointing that the different Bioware teams don't seem to communicate with each other. Also expect the launch to be rocky, Bioware aren't very good programmers. Can't say anything about points 3-5 since my early access version just started downloading (took the 7 days free trial to give it a go) but what I find interesting is that Kotaku specifically stressed that the character creator is "easier" than previous Bioware versions. I'll give my own opinion in an hour or two but frankly this would be the first bioware creator where I actually create a character that looks human. Granted I am not the most artistically inclined person, but so far all my creations dating back to DA:O and ME1 looked terrible and i usually took the default for any second playthrough. oh btw: fuck origin again.... why can't EA use Steam like any normal sensible firm..... Or at least enable the access program on the PS4..... | ||
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Lachrymose
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