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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
January 21 2015 22:07 GMT
#61
Considering all the good teams pretty much got in (pre-drama), with only Dignitas being the only real upset but earning their spot through the qualifiers, I'd say everything went well in the end.
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Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
January 21 2015 22:13 GMT
#62
If they got overlook intentionally, that would be somewhat a shame.. at least :/
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
January 21 2015 22:13 GMT
#63
On January 22 2015 07:01 DPK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 06:28 DEN1ED wrote:
On January 22 2015 06:14 Souma wrote:
I don't believe recent results were included, as C9 got the invite for NA instead of iBP.

Ya, how does that make sense? Feels like the invite teams, and now TL, are picked based on a popularity contest. MLG prioritizing viewers over match quality. Business comes first I guess.

Also, just because certain teams get an Invite doesn't mean that matches quality will be lower. You will see the top teams play and that's what matters the most IMO.


If you invite teams based on popularity instead of performance how does that not lower match quality?. Sure, fnatic and nip are still great teams I know, but certainly LDLC should have gotten one of those invite spots. Personally I'd rather "invites" just didn't exist at all though. They could have just run more qualifiers or taken top 2 teams from each qualifier instead.

And I know it's a business and money always has to come first, but that is the sad part, not my comments.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
January 21 2015 22:16 GMT
#64
I dunno, in terms of popularity I'd say LDLC is definitely more well-received than fnatic, all things considered. I think MLG just took results as a whole instead of just looking at recent results. Looking at it that way, it's probably why the teams that got invited did get their invite.

In any case, like I mentioned above, all the good teams ended up getting in anyway so I don't care too much about the whole thing. Just a shame iBP had to withdraw but it was necessary I guess.
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DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
January 21 2015 22:29 GMT
#65
I also still don't even understand ibp backing out.

From Hiko: "The other guys felt like until they know what is going to happen with valve and until this cloud of uncertainty goes away that it is in their best not to worry about playing in tournaments."

There has to be some other outside forces acting because this makes no sense. If you are worried about some kind of ban or something then I would want to play as much as possible before that happened...
johnbongham
Profile Joined April 2014
451 Posts
January 21 2015 22:37 GMT
#66
On January 22 2015 07:29 DEN1ED wrote:
I also still don't even understand ibp backing out.

From Hiko: "The other guys felt like until they know what is going to happen with valve and until this cloud of uncertainty goes away that it is in their best not to worry about playing in tournaments."

There has to be some other outside forces acting because this makes no sense. If you are worried about some kind of ban or something then I would want to play as much as possible before that happened...


I understand it completely. They lost their potential signing to EG/whomever, and are basically gonna get shit on in groups by ldlc and fnatic anyways. No reason for them to make a trip where they wont even be representing an org. I still think they should have went but I don't really expect anything more from them knowing how immature they all seem to be, except for Hiko of course.
funruiner
Profile Joined January 2015
Canada2 Posts
January 21 2015 22:42 GMT
#67
I'm willing to bet that the match fixing scandal has scared away EG from associating themselves with that roster. Torqued should be going instead of Liquid, though.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
January 21 2015 23:06 GMT
#68
Kind of surprised they chose TL over Torqued after hearing Torqued played better in the qualifiers. While I still prefer TL over Torqued going, it just seems to be a weird decision. If MLG didn't choose Torqued because of the match fixing, then why did they ask steel to observe? wasn't he also on that iBP team at the time?

Also interesting that steel hasn't said anything about it on twitter. Thought he would've exploded about it Maybe he's mid flight to Aspen and hasn't heard the news yet.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 23:15:13
January 21 2015 23:14 GMT
#69
On January 22 2015 07:29 DEN1ED wrote:
I also still don't even understand ibp backing out.

From Hiko: "The other guys felt like until they know what is going to happen with valve and until this cloud of uncertainty goes away that it is in their best not to worry about playing in tournaments."

There has to be some other outside forces acting because this makes no sense. If you are worried about some kind of ban or something then I would want to play as much as possible before that happened...


matchfixing

On January 22 2015 08:06 Nagisama wrote:
Kind of surprised they chose TL over Torqued after hearing Torqued played better in the qualifiers. While I still prefer TL over Torqued going, it just seems to be a weird decision. If MLG didn't choose Torqued because of the match fixing, then why did they ask steel to observe? wasn't he also on that iBP team at the time?

Also interesting that steel hasn't said anything about it on twitter. Thought he would've exploded about it Maybe he's mid flight to Aspen and hasn't heard the news yet.


good on mlg for not going with scumbags/matchfixers
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
January 21 2015 23:19 GMT
#70
Also, Hiko's statement makes me wonder whether it really is sponsers that buy the plane tickets, or MLG. Hiko said today he was just about ready to buy the ticket to Aspen. Unless they just ask MLG to pay them back.

On January 22 2015 08:14 coL.hendralisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 07:29 DEN1ED wrote:
I also still don't even understand ibp backing out.

From Hiko: "The other guys felt like until they know what is going to happen with valve and until this cloud of uncertainty goes away that it is in their best not to worry about playing in tournaments."

There has to be some other outside forces acting because this makes no sense. If you are worried about some kind of ban or something then I would want to play as much as possible before that happened...


matchfixing

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 08:06 Nagisama wrote:
Kind of surprised they chose TL over Torqued after hearing Torqued played better in the qualifiers. While I still prefer TL over Torqued going, it just seems to be a weird decision. If MLG didn't choose Torqued because of the match fixing, then why did they ask steel to observe? wasn't he also on that iBP team at the time?

Also interesting that steel hasn't said anything about it on twitter. Thought he would've exploded about it Maybe he's mid flight to Aspen and hasn't heard the news yet.


good on mlg for not going with scumbags/matchfixers

They're still going with a "scumbag/matchfixing" observer, was my main point.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
January 21 2015 23:20 GMT
#71
On January 22 2015 08:06 Nagisama wrote:

Also interesting that steel hasn't said anything about it on twitter. Thought he would've exploded about it Maybe he's mid flight to Aspen and hasn't heard the news yet.

"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
January 21 2015 23:48 GMT
#72
On January 22 2015 08:14 coL.hendralisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 07:29 DEN1ED wrote:
I also still don't even understand ibp backing out.

From Hiko: "The other guys felt like until they know what is going to happen with valve and until this cloud of uncertainty goes away that it is in their best not to worry about playing in tournaments."

There has to be some other outside forces acting because this makes no sense. If you are worried about some kind of ban or something then I would want to play as much as possible before that happened...


matchfixing



Yes I know about the match fixing, that doesn't explain not playing...
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
January 21 2015 23:54 GMT
#73
On January 22 2015 08:48 DEN1ED wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 08:14 coL.hendralisk wrote:
On January 22 2015 07:29 DEN1ED wrote:
I also still don't even understand ibp backing out.

From Hiko: "The other guys felt like until they know what is going to happen with valve and until this cloud of uncertainty goes away that it is in their best not to worry about playing in tournaments."

There has to be some other outside forces acting because this makes no sense. If you are worried about some kind of ban or something then I would want to play as much as possible before that happened...


matchfixing



Yes I know about the match fixing, that doesn't explain not playing...


perhaps their sponsorship fell through after unreleased new evidence from valve/csgl about the matches
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 21 2015 23:57 GMT
#74
On January 22 2015 08:54 coL.hendralisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 08:48 DEN1ED wrote:
On January 22 2015 08:14 coL.hendralisk wrote:
On January 22 2015 07:29 DEN1ED wrote:
I also still don't even understand ibp backing out.

From Hiko: "The other guys felt like until they know what is going to happen with valve and until this cloud of uncertainty goes away that it is in their best not to worry about playing in tournaments."

There has to be some other outside forces acting because this makes no sense. If you are worried about some kind of ban or something then I would want to play as much as possible before that happened...


matchfixing



Yes I know about the match fixing, that doesn't explain not playing...


perhaps their sponsorship fell through after unreleased new evidence from valve/csgl about the matches


even if sponsorship fell through, they still had travel accommodations from MLG...
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
January 22 2015 00:31 GMT
#75
On January 22 2015 07:13 DEN1ED wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 07:01 DPK wrote:
On January 22 2015 06:28 DEN1ED wrote:
On January 22 2015 06:14 Souma wrote:
I don't believe recent results were included, as C9 got the invite for NA instead of iBP.

Ya, how does that make sense? Feels like the invite teams, and now TL, are picked based on a popularity contest. MLG prioritizing viewers over match quality. Business comes first I guess.

Also, just because certain teams get an Invite doesn't mean that matches quality will be lower. You will see the top teams play and that's what matters the most IMO.


If you invite teams based on popularity instead of performance how does that not lower match quality?. Sure, fnatic and nip are still great teams I know, but certainly LDLC should have gotten one of those invite spots. Personally I'd rather "invites" just didn't exist at all though. They could have just run more qualifiers or taken top 2 teams from each qualifier instead.

And I know it's a business and money always has to come first, but that is the sad part, not my comments.


MLG announced the tournament first week of November and then released the invites a week before DHW started. NiP was the most recent winner of a major and fnatic was the best team.

If LDLC won the major prior to the announcement of the tournament or before MLG sent the invites, they probably would have been one of those invites.

In the end, I don't think it really mattered. All the top teams seemed to have made it (within the regions); with maybe the exception of VP.
you live and you learn
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