|
On January 22 2015 04:31 yamato77 wrote:
They kind of had to have had something to do with throwing the match, considering they did the purported throwing themselves.
Regardless, I'm glad it's Liquid over Torqued. Class is appreciated, and they are no worse in terms of skill. Unfortunately it's the group of death, but maybe they'll gain some valuable experience.
Look back at the qualifiers. Compare the performances of the teams in that. Torqued deserved the spot.
|
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Torqued has two players involved in the match-fixing scandal. Liquid was the right choice.
Plus, Liquid actually has a major sponsor to get them to the venue right away.
|
On January 22 2015 04:31 yamato77 wrote:
They kind of had to have had something to do with throwing the match, considering they did the purported throwing themselves.
Regardless, I'm glad it's Liquid over Torqued. Class is appreciated, and they are no worse in terms of skill. Unfortunately it's the group of death, but maybe they'll gain some valuable experience.
All it really takes is 1 player to throw a match. In this case I think there were two, dazed and steel.
|
On January 22 2015 04:37 Souma wrote:
Torqued has two players involved in the match-fixing scandal. Liquid was the right choice.
Possibly two players would be more accurate. I read the dailydot article, but Steel isn't proven to be implicated unless someone somewhere knows something I don't. Dazed was the only player of iBP to be specifically named in the article.
EDIT to respond to their edit:
On January 22 2015 04:37 Souma wrote:
Torqued has two players involved in the match-fixing scandal. Liquid was the right choice.
Plus, Liquid actually has a major sponsor to get them to the venue right away.
Do you really think Steel/m0E could not afford to send the rest of the team there even without the help of MLG?
|
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
At the moment I think everyone (as in the organizations) are playing it safe and assuming that the entire iBP team was in on it (that is, if they don't have all the facts yet).
I think that steel/mOE are not nearly as reliable as Liquid (not to mention who knows if the other players are available to go, they aren't pros and might have other commitments), and in an emergency situation where the organizer has to find a team asap to replace another, you go with the team with the most reliability on short notice. In any case, not even sure they asked Torqued due to dboorn and (possibly) steel being in the thick of the drama.
|
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
|
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Looks like the withdrawal from mlg was due to the match fixing scandal (he hints at it). Interesting to see Valve get involved in this though
|
11589 Posts
I sincerely doubt (read: it's basically impossible) that Dazed alone threw the match, but it doesn't really matter. Liquid gets a good chance to go to a tier 2 level LAN as a legitimate and respectable representative of NA CS. That's what actually matters.
|
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
You mean... Liquid gets a good chance... to pick up Hiko?
|
11589 Posts
That's an interesting idea. Hadn't seen that announcement yet. Hiko would be a huge pick up.
|
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
If daps crumbles hard at LAN, I could see them replacing him with Hiko.
|
MLG is such a fucking joke hahaha. Torqued make both qualifier finals and just get completely passed over? All they care about is TL is a big org so more viewers. Money over integrity. Nice MLG.
On January 22 2015 04:41 Gorilla23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 04:37 Souma wrote:
Torqued has two players involved in the match-fixing scandal. Liquid was the right choice.
Plus, Liquid actually has a major sponsor to get them to the venue right away. Do you really think Steel/m0E could not afford to send the rest of the team there even without the help of MLG?
Exactly, I guarantee steel/moe would get their team there with how badly they wanted it. It's just sad that MLG didn't even seem to consider them.
|
On January 22 2015 05:17 DEN1ED wrote:
MLG is such a fucking joke hahaha. Torqued make both qualifier finals and just get completely passed over? All they care about is TL is a big org so more viewers. Money over integrity. Nice MLG.
Quite the opposite considering the betting scandal.
Yes, from a performance standpoint Torqued was the obvious choice, but if you consider the scandal, Liquid becomes a very valid option. What probably tipped the balance in favor of Liquid is maybe the fact that they also have major sponsors that can send them there on such a short notice.
Also, how do you know they did not consider them.
|
On January 22 2015 05:17 DEN1ED wrote:MLG is such a fucking joke hahaha. Torqued make both qualifier finals and just get completely passed over? All they care about is TL is a big org so more viewers. Money over integrity. Nice MLG. Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 04:41 Gorilla23 wrote:On January 22 2015 04:37 Souma wrote:
Torqued has two players involved in the match-fixing scandal. Liquid was the right choice.
Plus, Liquid actually has a major sponsor to get them to the venue right away. Do you really think Steel/m0E could not afford to send the rest of the team there even without the help of MLG? Exactly, I guarantee steel/moe would get their team there with how badly they wanted it. It's just sad that MLG didn't even seem to consider them.
No, it's about the matchfix.
Liquid is the logical choice.
|
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On January 22 2015 05:26 Roggay wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 05:17 DEN1ED wrote:
MLG is such a fucking joke hahaha. Torqued make both qualifier finals and just get completely passed over? All they care about is TL is a big org so more viewers. Money over integrity. Nice MLG. Quite the opposite considering the betting scandal. Yes, from a performance standpoint Torqued was the obvious choice, but if you consider the scandal, Liquid becomes a very valid option. What probably tipped the balance in favor of Liquid is maybe the fact that they also have major sponsors that can send them there on such a short notice. Also, how do you know they did not consider them.
MLG provides the travel accommendations, not the players/sponsors themselves.
|
On January 22 2015 05:34 amazingxkcd wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 05:26 Roggay wrote:On January 22 2015 05:17 DEN1ED wrote:
MLG is such a fucking joke hahaha. Torqued make both qualifier finals and just get completely passed over? All they care about is TL is a big org so more viewers. Money over integrity. Nice MLG. Quite the opposite considering the betting scandal. Yes, from a performance standpoint Torqued was the obvious choice, but if you consider the scandal, Liquid becomes a very valid option. What probably tipped the balance in favor of Liquid is maybe the fact that they also have major sponsors that can send them there on such a short notice. Also, how do you know they did not consider them. MLG provides the travel accommendations, not the players/sponsors themselves.
Did not know that.
|
On January 22 2015 05:26 Roggay wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 05:17 DEN1ED wrote:
MLG is such a fucking joke hahaha. Torqued make both qualifier finals and just get completely passed over? All they care about is TL is a big org so more viewers. Money over integrity. Nice MLG. Quite the opposite considering the betting scandal. Yes, from a performance standpoint Torqued was the obvious choice, but if you consider the scandal, Liquid becomes a very valid option. What probably tipped the balance in favor of Liquid is maybe the fact that they also have major sponsors that can send them there on such a short notice. Also, how do you know they did not consider them.
Sponsors don't get you to the events, money does. Torqued has money. The betting scandal is still just a bunch of speculation with no concrete sources. And from moes tweet it doesn't sound like MLG even contacted them.
The only reason liquid got picked over more deserving/better teams is because its TL and MLG wants more viewers.
|
11589 Posts
If I was MLG I wouldn't choose Torqued either, they are not a respectable team.
|
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
On January 22 2015 05:37 DEN1ED wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 05:26 Roggay wrote:On January 22 2015 05:17 DEN1ED wrote:
MLG is such a fucking joke hahaha. Torqued make both qualifier finals and just get completely passed over? All they care about is TL is a big org so more viewers. Money over integrity. Nice MLG. Quite the opposite considering the betting scandal. Yes, from a performance standpoint Torqued was the obvious choice, but if you consider the scandal, Liquid becomes a very valid option. What probably tipped the balance in favor of Liquid is maybe the fact that they also have major sponsors that can send them there on such a short notice. Also, how do you know they did not consider them. Sponsors don't get you to the events, money does. Torqued has money. The betting scandal is still just a bunch of speculation with no concrete sources. And from moes tweet it doesn't sound like MLG even contacted them. The only reason liquid got picked over more deserving/better teams is because its TL and MLG wants more viewers.
That's false. At the very least, dboorn profited from the match-fixing, and that's enough to put a big question mark on Torqued.
|
On January 22 2015 05:39 yamato77 wrote:
If I was MLG I wouldn't choose Torqued either, they are not a respectable team.
Well fnatic was an INVITE team so it doesn't seem respectable rates highly on their scale of what they look for in a team.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
