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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 04 2014 16:56 GMT
#21
On May 04 2014 20:13 ETisME wrote:
I wish it was a 3 v 5 combat rather than 2 v 3. We have so many size characters and only able to use two at a time is a big disappointing

Do you realize that you can swap characters without losing progress on the timeline? When you get to choose an action, switch the current character with another one and you get to choose an action for the other character. This limits the effectiveness of buffs, but still leaves you with a fairly wide range of options during combat.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
May 04 2014 16:59 GMT
#22
This game is amazing. Beautiful art, fun combat and a joy to play.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 04 2014 18:25 GMT
#23
This game is a blast
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 18:45:56
May 04 2014 18:44 GMT
#24
On May 05 2014 01:56 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2014 20:13 ETisME wrote:
I wish it was a 3 v 5 combat rather than 2 v 3. We have so many size characters and only able to use two at a time is a big disappointing

Do you realize that you can swap characters without losing progress on the timeline? When you get to choose an action, switch the current character with another one and you get to choose an action for the other character. This limits the effectiveness of buffs, but still leaves you with a fairly wide range of options during combat.


Yeah, this is actually really powerful if used right, since Rubella/Tristis/Finn have short attacks that usually interrupt enemies, so you can just swap to one of them, interrupt, then swap out if you don't want them anymore for that fight.

Speaking of Tristis, does anyone find him useful? Because he seems to suffer from classic RPG I-have-defensive-spells-you'll-never-want-to-use syndrome.

EDIT: Also has anyone gotten the DLC that gives you a new ally? I'm kind of curious since I've already beaten the game but I want to play more...
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 04 2014 19:42 GMT
#25
On May 05 2014 03:44 RuiBarbO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 01:56 spinesheath wrote:
On May 04 2014 20:13 ETisME wrote:
I wish it was a 3 v 5 combat rather than 2 v 3. We have so many size characters and only able to use two at a time is a big disappointing

Do you realize that you can swap characters without losing progress on the timeline? When you get to choose an action, switch the current character with another one and you get to choose an action for the other character. This limits the effectiveness of buffs, but still leaves you with a fairly wide range of options during combat.


Yeah, this is actually really powerful if used right, since Rubella/Tristis/Finn have short attacks that usually interrupt enemies, so you can just swap to one of them, interrupt, then swap out if you don't want them anymore for that fight.

Speaking of Tristis, does anyone find him useful? Because he seems to suffer from classic RPG I-have-defensive-spells-you'll-never-want-to-use syndrome.

EDIT: Also has anyone gotten the DLC that gives you a new ally? I'm kind of curious since I've already beaten the game but I want to play more...

I'm in New Game+ on hard, and just fought a boss fight where I swapped in Tristis at the start and buffed Aurora a bunch, then swapped him out. It's quite convenient when you get a couple of Light Ray (all) in a row through uninterrupted. Usually you have to spend several turns to set up a timing where you can get one through. Kind of a bummer that the boss has Heal (all) as his counter-interrupt though. The majority of the fight I had Rubella team up with Aurora, then switched to Robert once it was just the boss left, since the boss is resistant against magic.
I forgot to equip a Brilliant Citrin on Aurora, that would have made things easier.

Outside of boss fights, Tristis probably isn't really doing much. Then again there are some pretty tough normal monsters and mini bosses in New Game+ on hard.

I also never switch out Aurora unless I absolutely must, so I have no idea how Tristis would fare with other characters. Say like Finn, who would certainly enjoy being Unstoppable. But Finn isn't well placed for normal fights either with is absurd mana costs.

I'm thinking about picking up the extra character too, it's not exactly a big investment anyways.

I also bought the OST (I don't have to tell you it's awesome). Sadly the choir versions are not in the soundtrack. Especially relevant for the boss fight tracks. Choir versions of Metal gleamed in the Twilight and Jupiter's Lightning can be found on Youtube though.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 19:54:02
May 04 2014 19:53 GMT
#26
On May 05 2014 04:42 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 03:44 RuiBarbO wrote:
On May 05 2014 01:56 spinesheath wrote:
On May 04 2014 20:13 ETisME wrote:
I wish it was a 3 v 5 combat rather than 2 v 3. We have so many size characters and only able to use two at a time is a big disappointing

Do you realize that you can swap characters without losing progress on the timeline? When you get to choose an action, switch the current character with another one and you get to choose an action for the other character. This limits the effectiveness of buffs, but still leaves you with a fairly wide range of options during combat.


Yeah, this is actually really powerful if used right, since Rubella/Tristis/Finn have short attacks that usually interrupt enemies, so you can just swap to one of them, interrupt, then swap out if you don't want them anymore for that fight.

Speaking of Tristis, does anyone find him useful? Because he seems to suffer from classic RPG I-have-defensive-spells-you'll-never-want-to-use syndrome.

EDIT: Also has anyone gotten the DLC that gives you a new ally? I'm kind of curious since I've already beaten the game but I want to play more...

I'm in New Game+ on hard, and just fought a boss fight where I swapped in Tristis at the start and buffed Aurora a bunch, then swapped him out. It's quite convenient when you get a couple of Light Ray (all) in a row through uninterrupted. Usually you have to spend several turns to set up a timing where you can get one through. Kind of a bummer that the boss has Heal (all) as his counter-interrupt though. The majority of the fight I had Rubella team up with Aurora, then switched to Robert once it was just the boss left, since the boss is resistant against magic.
I forgot to equip a Brilliant Citrin on Aurora, that would have made things easier.

Outside of boss fights, Tristis probably isn't really doing much. Then again there are some pretty tough normal monsters and mini bosses in New Game+ on hard.

I also never switch out Aurora unless I absolutely must, so I have no idea how Tristis would fare with other characters. Say like Finn, who would certainly enjoy being Unstoppable. But Finn isn't well placed for normal fights either with is absurd mana costs.

I'm thinking about picking up the extra character too, it's not exactly a big investment anyways.

I also bought the OST (I don't have to tell you it's awesome). Sadly the choir versions are not in the soundtrack. Especially relevant for the boss fight tracks. Choir versions of Metal gleamed in the Twilight and Jupiter's Lightning can be found on Youtube though.


Oooh I hadn't noticed New Game + was an option. Maybe I will do that now...

Also do you (or anyone else) know what the deal is with + Show Spoiler +
the girl in the later Confessions (Sophie Ashton Ellis)? Or do you find that out in NG+?


EDIT: added spoiler tag
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 04 2014 20:04 GMT
#27
On May 05 2014 04:53 RuiBarbO wrote:
Also do you (or anyone else) know what the deal is with + Show Spoiler +
the girl in the later Confessions (Sophie Ashton Ellis)? Or do you find that out in NG+?

No idea yet. Well, I had an idea and tried it out, but it doesn't seem I was right.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
May 04 2014 20:59 GMT
#28
Child of Light is brilliant!

I put up a quick thoughts video recently:
Neneu
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway492 Posts
May 04 2014 21:56 GMT
#29
CPU outdated, this sucks

My CPU is even better than the one needed in the min req
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
May 05 2014 00:18 GMT
#30
On May 05 2014 05:59 DragoonPK wrote:
Child of Light is brilliant!

I put up a quick thoughts video recently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1PEwFPZg-c


I add to OP!
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12390 Posts
May 05 2014 00:43 GMT
#31
On May 05 2014 01:56 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2014 20:13 ETisME wrote:
I wish it was a 3 v 5 combat rather than 2 v 3. We have so many size characters and only able to use two at a time is a big disappointing

Do you realize that you can swap characters without losing progress on the timeline? When you get to choose an action, switch the current character with another one and you get to choose an action for the other character. This limits the effectiveness of buffs, but still leaves you with a fairly wide range of options during combat.

Yea I know about it.
You can even swap out dead character for another one.
But I generally dislike 2v3 combat system due to less characters appearing on screen and counter intuitive for all buff spells
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 17:35:04
May 05 2014 17:29 GMT
#32
On May 05 2014 09:43 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 01:56 spinesheath wrote:
On May 04 2014 20:13 ETisME wrote:
I wish it was a 3 v 5 combat rather than 2 v 3. We have so many size characters and only able to use two at a time is a big disappointing

Do you realize that you can swap characters without losing progress on the timeline? When you get to choose an action, switch the current character with another one and you get to choose an action for the other character. This limits the effectiveness of buffs, but still leaves you with a fairly wide range of options during combat.

Yea I know about it.
You can even swap out dead character for another one.
But I generally dislike 2v3 combat system due to less characters appearing on screen and counter intuitive for all buff spells

The problem with more than 3 enemies is though that it's getting a lot harder to get Very Long cast time spells off. There certainly is potential that it would improve the game, but it's thin line to tread. Most likely the developers played around with different numbers and came to the conclusion that it would get too complex for the average player.

I would like to have more characters in combat too, and I would certainly enjoy it if it added complexity and difficulty to the game, but that's not the focus of the game.

What I would improve before that is Aurora's model, her dress and hair in particular. The collision detection isn't always as it should be.

And the LOOPINGS! I want more freedom in flight!
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 18:24:57
May 05 2014 18:24 GMT
#33
On May 06 2014 02:29 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 09:43 ETisME wrote:
On May 05 2014 01:56 spinesheath wrote:
On May 04 2014 20:13 ETisME wrote:
I wish it was a 3 v 5 combat rather than 2 v 3. We have so many size characters and only able to use two at a time is a big disappointing

Do you realize that you can swap characters without losing progress on the timeline? When you get to choose an action, switch the current character with another one and you get to choose an action for the other character. This limits the effectiveness of buffs, but still leaves you with a fairly wide range of options during combat.

Yea I know about it.
You can even swap out dead character for another one.
But I generally dislike 2v3 combat system due to less characters appearing on screen and counter intuitive for all buff spells

The problem with more than 3 enemies is though that it's getting a lot harder to get Very Long cast time spells off. There certainly is potential that it would improve the game, but it's thin line to tread. Most likely the developers played around with different numbers and came to the conclusion that it would get too complex for the average player.

I would like to have more characters in combat too, and I would certainly enjoy it if it added complexity and difficulty to the game, but that's not the focus of the game.

What I would improve before that is Aurora's model, her dress and hair in particular. The collision detection isn't always as it should be.

And the LOOPINGS! I want more freedom in flight!


I find that the 2v3 dynamic works really well. I imagine that 3v5 would be more of a headache than anything else, not that I've tried it to know. Plus moves like Slash (All) are balanced for 2v3, not 3v5. What I want is more epic boss fights---the last two in Hard mode (not NG+) were a little too easy (Finn OP??). Also, regarding Nox: + Show Spoiler +
I know she's a bad guy but I would have liked to have her back in the party since her moves were pretty cool and she's around for such a short time...


Also I found the OST on iTunes but it doesn't have the music for the fight against Crepusculum/final boss. Sadness
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-06 16:47:14
May 05 2014 18:42 GMT
#34
On May 06 2014 03:24 RuiBarbO wrote:
Also I found the OST on iTunes but it doesn't have the music for the fight against Crepusculum/final boss. Sadness

Check out this:
http://www.youtube.com/user/AlfredDerCreeper/videos


Have you seen the gaze that follows you?
The rock that breathes like humans do?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
May 05 2014 20:44 GMT
#35
I'm playing it right now and feel like this thread overhypes it a little bit. It's amazingly pretty and the gameplay is slick but nothing is (imo) absolutely spectacular/addictive other than the graphics.

Still a game I'd recommend to almost anyone though.
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RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
May 05 2014 23:40 GMT
#36
On May 06 2014 03:42 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 03:24 RuiBarbO wrote:
Also I found the OST on iTunes but it doesn't have the music for the fight against Crepusculum/final boss. Sadness

Check out this:
http://www.youtube.com/user/AlfredDerCreeper/videos


Have you seen the eye that follows you?
The rock that breathes?


Oh yay
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 06 2014 16:46 GMT
#37
On May 06 2014 05:44 PoP wrote:
I'm playing it right now and feel like this thread overhypes it a little bit. It's amazingly pretty and the gameplay is slick but nothing is (imo) absolutely spectacular/addictive other than the graphics.

Still a game I'd recommend to almost anyone though.

It's rare for a game to do even one thing amazingly well. It's a game with a tight focus on what it tries to be and a lot of love for detail. You can feel the passion of the designers without being overwhelmed with other stuff.

It's awesome for much the same reasons that make games like Ico, Shadow of the Colossus and Portal/Portal 2 so awesome.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 06:21:22
May 07 2014 06:20 GMT
#38
so im like halfway through the game + Show Spoiler +
aurora just became an adult, i assume that means im about halfway
, kinda pissed that i used all my permanent strength buffs on norah..........
:)
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
May 07 2014 07:14 GMT
#39
On May 07 2014 15:20 synapse wrote:
so im like halfway through the game + Show Spoiler +
aurora just became an adult, i assume that means im about halfway
, kinda pissed that i used all my permanent strength buffs on norah..........


Ha, I was just talking to a friend about how much that sucks... Norah + Robert was such a good combo :\ But Oengus is not a bad physical damage-ish replacement.

ALSO, there was a link on Steam to an AMA with the writer for Child of Light, a guy named Jeffrey Yohalem. Among the questions he answers was one about the Confessions, which I'll spoiler here...

+ Show Spoiler +
Reddit AMA asked:

I've sunk so many hours into this game already.

I'm wondering if we can look forward to a sequel of some sort? If not a sequel, even just something set in the same world?

What was the idea behind the confessions?

annndd..

Can we look forward to more games using the same engine?


UbiJeffrey replied:

The Confessions link to your first question Nine of them are perfect sonnets, the rest...

Enginewise, we'll see.

Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 19:25:57
May 07 2014 17:02 GMT
#40
I found the golden rectangle. Totally skipped that on my first run through the game. Now I have a math problem to solve.

Has someone found the music that is played at the start of this video (spoiler alert!):
+ Show Spoiler +

It's really a shame the OST is missing so many great tracks...
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