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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4197 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-10 09:22:15
August 10 2020 09:10 GMT
#4541
there are some balance issues again, because CL got way overbuffed and NE vs ORC seems to be quite broken

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AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
August 10 2020 10:10 GMT
#4542
On August 10 2020 03:53 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2020 11:27 AssyrianKing wrote:
What's the game like now ?


You mean, 6 months after this failed release? Pretty much nothing changed.

ffs Blizzard
John 15:13
elKa-ThE-FeArEd
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden176 Posts
August 11 2020 20:39 GMT
#4543
never played wc3 except some tower defence back in the days, is it any noobfriendly or are there only hardcore wc3 players playing it nowadays?
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4197 Posts
August 15 2020 07:54 GMT
#4544
there are some noobfriendly modes for sure

i would start by playing team games, then move to solo if you want to
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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
August 15 2020 08:44 GMT
#4545
On August 12 2020 05:39 elKa-ThE-FeArEd wrote:
never played wc3 except some tower defence back in the days, is it any noobfriendly or are there only hardcore wc3 players playing it nowadays?

On August 15 2020 16:54 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
there are some noobfriendly modes for sure

i would start by playing team games, then move to solo if you want to

I regularly play team games (normal melee, not talking custom games), and I have to disagree with this suggestion for several reasons:
-Yes, playing solo can be daunting, you will lose multiple times until the matchmaking system figures out against which opponents to match you. In team games, this is somewhat mitigated by the fact that your teammatest could balance this out. But the reality is that most of the time as a new player, you will nevertheless still be the cause of your team losing. It just won't be that obvious as it is in 1v1. And while in 1v1 you only lose for yourself, in teamgames you are probably making your
teammates losr too, potentially leading to an unenjoyable for at worst up to 7 other people.
-Quite often, teammates in teamgames can be quite "demanding", so if it seems that you might not really know what you are doing, prepare to be yelled at or even insulted frequently.
-Also if you are plaing team games, I found that there is a lot of greater variety in strategies than in 1v1, so while this means that a lot of different stuff can work, it also means that it's harder to get a grasp of the subtle, but nevertheless, essential details to many of the strategies.
-Yes there are many hardcore players around, but imho there is still a steady influx of new players. I mean, once you are in the correct matchmaking bracket, it doesnt really matter you how many good players there are, as you wont play them anyway. It just might take some more games to get to this point, if there are relatively few new players. I think that (both on battle net and the user-created w3champions ladder), you will probably find opponents at your skill level after maybe 10 initial games it takes to calibrate your rating. Just force yourself past those games, and imho it should become a great fun game to play at any skill leve.
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
August 16 2020 05:58 GMT
#4546
On August 15 2020 17:44 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2020 05:39 elKa-ThE-FeArEd wrote:
never played wc3 except some tower defence back in the days, is it any noobfriendly or are there only hardcore wc3 players playing it nowadays?

Show nested quote +
On August 15 2020 16:54 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
there are some noobfriendly modes for sure

i would start by playing team games, then move to solo if you want to

I regularly play team games (normal melee, not talking custom games), and I have to disagree with this suggestion for several reasons:
-Yes, playing solo can be daunting, you will lose multiple times until the matchmaking system figures out against which opponents to match you. In team games, this is somewhat mitigated by the fact that your teammatest could balance this out. But the reality is that most of the time as a new player, you will nevertheless still be the cause of your team losing. It just won't be that obvious as it is in 1v1. And while in 1v1 you only lose for yourself, in teamgames you are probably making your
teammates losr too, potentially leading to an unenjoyable for at worst up to 7 other people.
-Quite often, teammates in teamgames can be quite "demanding", so if it seems that you might not really know what you are doing, prepare to be yelled at or even insulted frequently.
-Also if you are plaing team games, I found that there is a lot of greater variety in strategies than in 1v1, so while this means that a lot of different stuff can work, it also means that it's harder to get a grasp of the subtle, but nevertheless, essential details to many of the strategies.
-Yes there are many hardcore players around, but imho there is still a steady influx of new players. I mean, once you are in the correct matchmaking bracket, it doesnt really matter you how many good players there are, as you wont play them anyway. It just might take some more games to get to this point, if there are relatively few new players. I think that (both on battle net and the user-created w3champions ladder), you will probably find opponents at your skill level after maybe 10 initial games it takes to calibrate your rating. Just force yourself past those games, and imho it should become a great fun game to play at any skill leve.

I agree. I think its far easier to learn playing 1v1 with people at your level (which 10 games is more than enough to get to usually), than to try 2v2.
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4197 Posts
August 17 2020 10:04 GMT
#4547
I always found 3v3s relaxing while 1v1 stressful

especially when you have at least one teammate that you know
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B2W.Neo
Profile Joined July 2015
287 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-06 14:00:12
September 06 2020 12:46 GMT
#4548
We cast the W3Champions Season2 Finals in ~3hours!
Our final 4 are: Grubby, Happy, DeMusliM & XlorD.
http://Twitch.tv/Back2Warcraft


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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25397 Posts
September 06 2020 15:01 GMT
#4549
If Grubby Happy is anything like their last showmatch should be a treat!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4197 Posts
September 11 2020 12:19 GMT
#4550


no words..
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 11 2020 12:59 GMT
#4551
Fucking lol, good video. Especially loved the chicken part.
B2W.Neo
Profile Joined July 2015
287 Posts
September 25 2020 14:10 GMT
#4552
Cool article on the W3Champions matchmaking, future plans, hostbots and more:
https://warcraft3.info/articles/357
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4197 Posts
September 26 2020 09:07 GMT
#4553
Great new patch analysis

Part 1


Part 2
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4197 Posts
October 08 2020 09:41 GMT
#4554
1.32.9 PTR changes analyzed by Grubby

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Steffa-NO
Profile Joined April 2011
60 Posts
October 23 2020 13:23 GMT
#4555
Does anyone do a lot of Liquipedia editing that can quickly message me to help with some Liquipedia standards or if I'm missing something? Feel free to message me. The only build order that I can see on Liquipedia is this Undead Fiend BO. I would like to copy this and add the most common build orders for all races, and a landing page that links them all together to help new players. If not, I'll just copy this as the template and move things around.

https://liquipedia.net/warcraft/Undead_Fiend_Build_Order#Basic_Build_Order

Thanks
"People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day." - A.A. Milne, Winnie-the-Pooh
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25397 Posts
October 23 2020 13:57 GMT
#4556
On October 23 2020 22:23 Steffa-NO wrote:
Does anyone do a lot of Liquipedia editing that can quickly message me to help with some Liquipedia standards or if I'm missing something? Feel free to message me. The only build order that I can see on Liquipedia is this Undead Fiend BO. I would like to copy this and add the most common build orders for all races, and a landing page that links them all together to help new players. If not, I'll just copy this as the template and move things around.

https://liquipedia.net/warcraft/Undead_Fiend_Build_Order#Basic_Build_Order

Thanks

A great idea, hopefully you can get the go-ahead there
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Steffa-NO
Profile Joined April 2011
60 Posts
October 25 2020 18:30 GMT
#4557
I started with Human since that's the race I know best. I'll be adding some other race build orders later this week. Let me know if you have any feedback!

https://liquipedia.net/warcraft/Common_build_orders
"People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day." - A.A. Milne, Winnie-the-Pooh
B2W.Neo
Profile Joined July 2015
287 Posts
October 29 2020 13:05 GMT
#4558
thats a great initiative mate, thanks!
we have a discord channel for the wc3 liquipedia: https://discord.gg/5g6v5ce
Steffa-NO
Profile Joined April 2011
60 Posts
October 30 2020 00:13 GMT
#4559
Thanks Neo! I've joined the discord and look forward to helping out more in the future.
"People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day." - A.A. Milne, Winnie-the-Pooh
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17267 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-30 01:28:15
October 30 2020 01:27 GMT
#4560
You can also check Grubby's channel since he has in-depth guides and build orders for each faction. He did a series of "beginner" build orders that could really be considered just your standard way of playing each race. Great stuff for beginners to learn.

Just search for "bloody beginner" on his YT channel:

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