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ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
July 06 2020 17:59 GMT
#4521
starting : o
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
July 06 2020 19:01 GMT
#4522
On July 05 2020 07:50 B2W.Neo wrote:
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🗓 MONDAY, JULY 06
⏰ 20:30 CEST
💰 $1,000 sponsored by Suddhodana
📺 http://Twitch.tv/Back2Warcraft

The legends Grubby and Happy are stepping into the ring once again. Pitting their wits and will against each other in a thrilling BO5 Showmatch

This is hype, tune in
First map was already great
SaTiN
Profile Joined June 2014
United States54 Posts
July 07 2020 01:02 GMT
#4523
On July 07 2020 04:01 Derity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2020 07:50 B2W.Neo wrote:
[image loading]

🗓 MONDAY, JULY 06
⏰ 20:30 CEST
💰 $1,000 sponsored by Suddhodana
📺 http://Twitch.tv/Back2Warcraft

The legends Grubby and Happy are stepping into the ring once again. Pitting their wits and will against each other in a thrilling BO5 Showmatch

This is hype, tune in
First map was already great

That was an intense series. I didn't catch it live but just finished watching. Impressive play by both players.
B2W.Neo
Profile Joined July 2015
287 Posts
July 18 2020 07:57 GMT
#4524
🔴 LIVE ➡️ http://Twitch.tv/Back2Warcraft

🏆 WGL SUMMER 2020
⚔️QUARTERFINALS
💰 $70,000

🔥 LawLiet vs. Lyn
🔥 Infi vs. Foggy
🔥 Moon vs. eer0
🔥 TH000 vs. FoCuS

🎙️ Neo & Remo
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26321 Posts
July 18 2020 13:28 GMT
#4525
No Happy? Thought he won the last one but I don’t follow WC3 as closely as I’d like to.

Will still tune in for some fine action.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 18 2020 13:37 GMT
#4526
On July 18 2020 22:28 Wombat_NI wrote:
No Happy? Thought he won the last one but I don’t follow WC3 as closely as I’d like to.

Will still tune in for some fine action.


Happy won WGL Summer last year. Happy didn't want to play with high ping so declined invitation to western qualifier.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10699 Posts
July 18 2020 20:23 GMT
#4527
I haven't watched WC3 in so long, there seems to not be so many Undead or nightelf players, is there a reason why?
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 22:31:26
July 18 2020 22:29 GMT
#4528
On July 19 2020 05:23 TelecoM wrote:
I haven't watched WC3 in so long, there seems to not be so many Undead or nightelf players, is there a reason why?


What would lead you to that conclusion? I can understand a lack of Undead if you only pay attention to the Asian scene, but elf doesn't make any sense.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
B2W.Neo
Profile Joined July 2015
287 Posts
July 19 2020 07:54 GMT
#4529
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5257 Posts
July 19 2020 23:33 GMT
#4530
just wondering - now that we're ~6mo out from release, did WC3 Reforged help revitalize the scene to some extent? or did it do more damage with its faults?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3509 Posts
July 20 2020 04:12 GMT
#4531
Is it time to start a "Moon's Body" thread? Looking fresh.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4237 Posts
July 20 2020 08:16 GMT
#4532
On July 20 2020 08:33 EchelonTee wrote:
just wondering - now that we're ~6mo out from release, did WC3 Reforged help revitalize the scene to some extent? or did it do more damage with its faults?

50/50 imo

slightly more tournaments with bigger prizepool atm but the hype got totally killed so many non-hardcore players already left. At least I think so
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17683 Posts
July 20 2020 08:51 GMT
#4533
On July 20 2020 17:16 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 08:33 EchelonTee wrote:
just wondering - now that we're ~6mo out from release, did WC3 Reforged help revitalize the scene to some extent? or did it do more damage with its faults?

50/50 imo

slightly more tournaments with bigger prizepool atm but the hype got totally killed so many non-hardcore players already left. At least I think so


It doesn't help that pretty much all the pros are playing with classic graphics.

Also, reforged graphics make it super hard to spectate. Some of the spell effects just aren't clear enough - forked lightning or chain lightning seem to go through entire animation in like 0.5 sec so they're super hard to spot during battle, smilarly key spells like death coil don't have this clear trace and are muted in color so it's easy to miss. I have a lot of trouble differentiating between human units (peasants, militia, swordsmen all look pretty much the same, in classic at least militia had axes now they get sword & shield just like swordsmen which makes them even harder to distinguish) and plenty of animations look rather janky. I hate the trees falling down en-masse animation when you pan camera back to base after some of them were cut and generally muted color schemes.

It all has potential, but requires a lot more work. As it is it seems more like an alpha version of a game, not even beta.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51551 Posts
July 21 2020 02:26 GMT
#4534
the lightning spells are absolute doo-doo in reforged. more reminiscent of sparks than lightning.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26321 Posts
July 21 2020 02:58 GMT
#4535
I feel bad now, I thought complaints were overblown. Oh god no.

Granted I thought we were talking about a work in progress back then, but then it launched. Most of my streams since were with guys using classic since.

I’m not saying it’s ‘proof’ but I’ve never heard Grubby, one of the most patient and diplomatic personalities I can think of be as scathing about anything. Granted Grubby scathing is mild by general standards.

I don’t really like the art style, but personal preference is one thing. That said I don’t like it, it’s not as overly exaggerated and distinct as before. The new KoTG (portrait included) looks like some generic background character in a fantasy blockbuster, the old one if nothing else looks like an old dude, kinda fitting him being some ancient protector of the forest. Blademaster just looks like an Orc now, the old one was a bit slimmer than his fellow Orcs and had a real samurai vibe, you know like a BLADEMASTER? THAT’S WHAT HE DOES? Old DH looked really distinct from the rest of the Nelves to befit the whole you know, outcast Demon Hunter thing and it had the brooding Illidan portrait.

I mean I could go on. Why are footmen as they are now? I just don’t even. Argh

The lack of being able to tell things apart is a way bigger issue. OG WC3 was one of my favourite games ever so I’ll concede my nostalgic bias will come into play about art style. But distinguishability is really bad. Not just spell effects either, I mean from watching all of the Ro4 onwards especially and the third place game, so quite a lot of WC3 I found myself lost a lot in a few scenarios

1. Maybe this was the stream quality i was watching. I don’t ever remember archers setting up and not being able to tell what they were firing at without scanning their enemy’s healthbars.

2. BM and DH’s attack animations are, beyond terrible. I don’t understand why they are so bad.

3. At least twice watching Lawliet vs Infi I sat there and was thinking ‘ok I know he has two rax but how the fuck does Infi have so many footies, this makes no sense? Wait some of those are militia?’



'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26321 Posts
July 21 2020 03:03 GMT
#4536
I could go on. That aside I do feel inspired to play but I don’t want to pay for Reforged.

I still have my old CD keys although missing my actual TFT CD. Where in the name of Zeus can I enter them and install the game? Surely I can right?

I did it before Reforged came out but I might just be being an idiot. When it did and the update happened in the background I couldn’t play/find where to put in my CD keys when it launched and I was so pissy I haven’t wanted to reinvestigate since.

Cheers if anyone has some info.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
July 21 2020 03:14 GMT
#4537
Have you tried through the blizzard launcher? Just guessing here. Otherwise you might be able to find the original cds through torrent, then just install it with your keys.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 21 2020 03:29 GMT
#4538
On July 21 2020 12:03 Wombat_NI wrote:
I could go on. That aside I do feel inspired to play but I don’t want to pay for Reforged.

I still have my old CD keys although missing my actual TFT CD. Where in the name of Zeus can I enter them and install the game? Surely I can right?

I did it before Reforged came out but I might just be being an idiot. When it did and the update happened in the background I couldn’t play/find where to put in my CD keys when it launched and I was so pissy I haven’t wanted to reinvestigate since.

Cheers if anyone has some info.


As long as you have a CD Key associated you should be able to download via https://www.blizzard.com/en-us/download
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2116 Posts
August 09 2020 02:27 GMT
#4539
What's the game like now ?
John 15:13
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17683 Posts
August 09 2020 18:53 GMT
#4540
On August 09 2020 11:27 AssyrianKing wrote:
What's the game like now ?


You mean, 6 months after this failed release? Pretty much nothing changed.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
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