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Development ended, game appears to be dead.
https://forums.artillery.com/discussion/911/end-of-development
-Jinro
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-05 14:49:54
October 05 2015 14:47 GMT
#161
On October 03 2015 14:12 -NegativeZero- wrote:
if it's any encouragement, ROOTSasquatch posted on reddit saying he enjoys the game.


grawarejqzmkldj

I really want to try this game out, not going to lie.

edit:

I think the terms micro/macro are just badly trasnfered into RTS gaming. Do they even exist outside of the Starcraft/Blizzard RTS community? I always feel like anytime someone in another RTS forum starts using that term it turns out to be a Starcraft player.


Please check out Age of Conquerors, Age of Mythology/Titans, Age of Empires 3. They're all excellent RTS in their own right, and yes, those players know what macro and micro are.
maru lover forever
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 05 2015 14:49 GMT
#162
On October 05 2015 23:47 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 14:12 -NegativeZero- wrote:
if it's any encouragement, ROOTSasquatch posted on reddit saying he enjoys the game.


grawarejqzmkldj

I really want to try this game out, not going to lie.

Yep, i just hope there aren't much potential beta testers yet, they only wanna invite 1k iirc.
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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
October 10 2015 02:18 GMT
#163
On October 03 2015 01:00 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 23:54 c3rberUs wrote:
I didn't know this was possible with html5/javascript yet. Interesting.

They have moved to a standalone client, not a browser game any more, part of the code has been rebuilt with C++.


Happy about the stand alone client. A browser only rts seems a bit ambitious.
Be excellent to each other.
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
October 10 2015 02:36 GMT
#164
I dunno all the RTS games that Incog listed have pretty clear micro/macro components to them. I'd say the StarCraft / AOE type games have pretty clear macro and micro components. I've never been a big fan of CnC.

I'm pretty fucking excited to see the monster that Day9 has wrought :D. So many years of BW experience distilled into a game. It's gonna be great!
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16930 Posts
October 11 2015 05:01 GMT
#165
no 1v1 Mode for this game.

"At launch, there will almost certainly NOT be a 1v1 mode.
I'd love to have a 1v1 and/or other game modes. However, we don't have a gigantic team so, rather than try to do everything, we want to absolutely nail 3v3. Then, we can plan on adding more cool stuff down the road "
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deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
October 11 2015 05:37 GMT
#166
I'm really looking forward to being able to grab a couple of my casual gamer mates and play 3v3 ranked in a game which is designed specifically around that mode. The more I think about it, the more the idea and concept of core RTS gameplay being constructed around 3v3 intrigues me.

Bring on beta!
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
October 11 2015 05:45 GMT
#167
On October 11 2015 14:01 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
no 1v1 Mode for this game.

"At launch, there will almost certainly NOT be a 1v1 mode.
I'd love to have a 1v1 and/or other game modes. However, we don't have a gigantic team so, rather than try to do everything, we want to absolutely nail 3v3. Then, we can plan on adding more cool stuff down the road "


no 1v1 ???? wtf????????

-.-

i was waiting for this game
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Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
October 11 2015 06:31 GMT
#168
Other RTS games require macro/micro. the AoE series for example. You can kite with ranged units, you have to micro the battles appropriately as the units work in a sort of rock paper, scissor fashion so you have to control which units engage which other units. You want to control how many units fire on any given target, so that if it only takes 8 units to kill something you want to fire on it with just 8 and not a control group of 40. The list goes on.
Requires macro as well, and to be honest it is in some ways more difficult than starcraft macro in that you have to have your resource distribution handled. There are 4 resources types and certain things cost certain resources, if you prepare to go for a certain unit combination but haven't sorted your production out properly you basically auto-lose. If you sit too long on cheap units and don't work towards the more expensive units that cost gold you will lose.
So yes, there are games out there that require micro/macro at pretty deep levels that aren't just sc :/.

I'll keep an eye on this could be fun, signed up for beta.
robopork
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States511 Posts
October 13 2015 23:18 GMT
#169
On October 11 2015 14:37 deth wrote:
I'm really looking forward to being able to grab a couple of my casual gamer mates and play 3v3 ranked in a game which is designed specifically around that mode. The more I think about it, the more the idea and concept of core RTS gameplay being constructed around 3v3 intrigues me.

Bring on beta!


Yeah, I think a legitimized team competition is an important evolution for rts. I know at least half a dozen people who love starcraft and are competitive in other games, but don't play because they can't play with friends.

It's a really interesting direction.

Hero units though... oh well. Can't have it all.
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Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
October 14 2015 09:01 GMT
#170
On October 11 2015 14:01 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
no 1v1 Mode for this game.

"At launch, there will almost certainly NOT be a 1v1 mode.
I'd love to have a 1v1 and/or other game modes. However, we don't have a gigantic team so, rather than try to do everything, we want to absolutely nail 3v3. Then, we can plan on adding more cool stuff down the road "


Aaaaaaand all hype gone.
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TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1978 Posts
October 14 2015 09:29 GMT
#171
No 1on1? Thanks but no thanks.
I am still looking forward to try it because i was a huge fan of 2on2 in broodwar but the hype is gone.
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
October 14 2015 09:32 GMT
#172
On October 14 2015 18:01 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2015 14:01 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
no 1v1 Mode for this game.

"At launch, there will almost certainly NOT be a 1v1 mode.
I'd love to have a 1v1 and/or other game modes. However, we don't have a gigantic team so, rather than try to do everything, we want to absolutely nail 3v3. Then, we can plan on adding more cool stuff down the road "


Aaaaaaand all hype gone.

Yap. Back to Act of Aggression.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
October 14 2015 11:07 GMT
#173
anyone have a link to the beta signup? I wouldn't write it off so early.. i mean it won't be as good as BW due to the lack of 1v1, but 3v3 can still be fun.
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
October 14 2015 11:20 GMT
#174
On October 14 2015 20:07 Endymion wrote:
anyone have a link to the beta signup? I wouldn't write it off so early.. i mean it won't be as good as BW due to the lack of 1v1, but 3v3 can still be fun.

It's on Artillery's home page:

https://www.artillery.com/
vibeo gane,
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
October 14 2015 11:45 GMT
#175
On October 14 2015 20:07 Endymion wrote:
anyone have a link to the beta signup? I wouldn't write it off so early.. i mean it won't be as good as BW due to the lack of 1v1, but 3v3 can still be fun.

For team experience I don't know why you would not rather play Dota 2.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 15 2015 00:05 GMT
#176
On October 10 2015 11:18 meatpudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 01:00 digmouse wrote:
On October 02 2015 23:54 c3rberUs wrote:
I didn't know this was possible with html5/javascript yet. Interesting.

They have moved to a standalone client, not a browser game any more, part of the code has been rebuilt with C++.


Happy about the stand alone client. A browser only rts seems a bit ambitious.


You can still watch replays and do live observing in the browser which is cool.
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
October 15 2015 05:57 GMT
#177
On October 14 2015 20:45 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 20:07 Endymion wrote:
anyone have a link to the beta signup? I wouldn't write it off so early.. i mean it won't be as good as BW due to the lack of 1v1, but 3v3 can still be fun.

For team experience I don't know why you would not rather play Dota 2.

Because I would rather play an RTS. I don't want to control just 1 unit.

I enjoy 3v3s in SC2 and I liked monobattles, which this game seems to take some inspiration from. Sure, I wish Atlas offered more of a direct challenger to SC2 and focused on competitive 1v1, but that doesn't automatically mean the game will be bad/pointless/etc.
vibeo gane,
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
October 15 2015 06:31 GMT
#178
This looks pretty cool, I don't care about 3v3 stuff people really seem to be more comfortable in team games. With the way the game is set up I don't know how 1v1s will work for them. I signed up for Beta I will play test the shit out of this.
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Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 09:12:41
October 15 2015 09:05 GMT
#179
On October 14 2015 20:45 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 20:07 Endymion wrote:
anyone have a link to the beta signup? I wouldn't write it off so early.. i mean it won't be as good as BW due to the lack of 1v1, but 3v3 can still be fun.

For team experience I don't know why you would not rather play Dota 2.

because moba players are horrible and retarded, where as big bad RTS players are somewhat less retarded on an average... also i don't like mobas because they're way too slow. that said, i dont know why anyone would choose 3v3 over 1v1 for their competitive outlet, but everyone is different

also, keep in mind that even if browser games aren't fully supported the tools will still be in place for hopefully an optimized rts style browser client.. even if people are unhappy with the 3v3s, there's a chance that a 1v1 mod will pop up with a (hopefully open source) modern client
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
October 15 2015 09:24 GMT
#180
also, keep in mind that even if browser games aren't fully supported the tools will still be in place for hopefully an optimized rts style browser client.. even if people are unhappy with the 3v3s, there's a chance that a 1v1 mod will pop up with a (hopefully open source) modern client


Here is my issue with Project Atlas approach. I am sure that when they playtested 3v3s it was all super awesome because everyone would be really polite and communicate efficiently. However, the experience is not gonna be anything like that when you get a bigger playerbase.

I absolutely despise the teamplay experience, but it's a neccesity for the teamfight/outplay-dynamic. But in an RTS, it just seems completetely unnecesary.
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