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On July 15 2013 07:08 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:03 HotGlueGun wrote:On July 15 2013 07:01 Asymmetric wrote:On July 15 2013 06:51 tshi wrote:
why cant a laid back SC2 event get this many views? like, if dreamhack didnt run their event at such terrible hours, they'd probably get the same or more, right? I wish Sc2 had something as epic Evo or Dota's intentional. One big event that everything fed into once a year building up the hype. It should be WCS. But it so isn't... Maybe blizzcon but I have little faith in blizzard after last years finals No region locking will yield much better finals this year, for all of the complaining and drama regarding what it does or doesn't do for the local scenes it will definitely benefit the global finals by producing a much more competitive tournament. Count on it. I've got my ticket already, it's 4 months away and I cannot wait.
The quality of the games does not bring the viewers. I do not care for a Korean A vs. Korean B matches, without someone to cheer for (relatable and charismatic figure) I will not sit in front of the pc. There will be zero hype for the WCS finals with the current format.
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On July 15 2013 07:08 Tunga wrote:
SSBM, KoF, Persona All hype top 8's that deserve one more year!
I think KoF and Melee both have pretty good odds, Nintendo's bungling notwithstanding. Persona tho 
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On July 15 2013 07:12 terialk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:09 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 15 2013 07:02 terialk wrote:On July 15 2013 06:59 Mannerheim wrote:On July 15 2013 06:57 DoNotDisturb wrote:On July 15 2013 06:56 Mannerheim wrote:On July 15 2013 06:54 Fatalize wrote:On July 15 2013 06:54 Asymmetric wrote:
How many viewers did TI2 for dota2 get? 500k I think with chinese viewers Didn't the first Dota 2 The Defense have like 2 million concurrent viewers? The one that was essentially the unveiling of the game. uhh 2million concurrent is a little exaggerated, don't you think? I don't remember JoinDota ever releasing a number anyway according to valve TI2 had 567k http://blog.dota2.com/2012/09/the-2012-international/ I remember seeing the number myself in a player. It was the first Dota 2 tournament, the official unveiling of the game and had a massive prize pool. Are you talking about TI1? Iirc the opening rounds did have 1.5 million+ watching. The opening rounds definitely did not have 1.5 million concurrent watching. That was across all languages. English only had 300k iirc. Vaguely I found this old post: https://www.facebook.com/joinDOTA/posts/247700551931398 but it was a hot topic back then since people were comparing numbers to LoL (because they never not compare).
None of that was confirmed. The only confirmed stat was 567k for the finals which was by far the most hyped match of the tournament. I also watched the entire tournament beginning to end, and I don't remember the live streams getting anywhere close to that 567k number before the grand finals.
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Where can I find the brackets for SSF4? Fucking evo site wont load for me at all...
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On July 15 2013 07:08 Fatalize wrote:yes
best character because of high ceiling. But probably the hardest to win tourneys, most unforgiving, and most difficult to learn of the top tier characters. The quote was "Fox don't win tournaments." No Fox has ever won a major national/international before Mango, and Mango isn't even really a fox main, he just plays matchups/what he's feeling.
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On July 15 2013 07:14 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:12 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 15 2013 07:11 Hall0wed wrote:On July 15 2013 07:10 stuchiu wrote:On July 15 2013 07:08 SKC wrote:On July 15 2013 07:07 stuchiu wrote:
When's the next smash coming out? 2014 Then that confuses the issue of if Melee comes back next year, or if they might try the new one. Depends if Nintendo can actually learn and not make a shitty competitive game again like they did with Brawl. Nintendo doesn't really give a shit about competitive gaming though. Hopefully, HOPEFULLY, numbers like the ones that just showed up to watch Melee can convince them otherwise. If not? They accidentally got it right with Melee, perhaps that title will just be immortal.
This is what I meant.
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On July 15 2013 07:15 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:13 zev318 wrote:On July 15 2013 07:12 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 15 2013 07:11 Hall0wed wrote:On July 15 2013 07:10 stuchiu wrote:On July 15 2013 07:08 SKC wrote:On July 15 2013 07:07 stuchiu wrote:
When's the next smash coming out? 2014 Then that confuses the issue of if Melee comes back next year, or if they might try the new one. Depends if Nintendo can actually learn and not make a shitty competitive game again like they did with Brawl. Nintendo doesn't really give a shit about competitive gaming though. nintendo almost didnt even give permission for this game to be streamed. shows u how much they really care about the community that supports their game Thy gave in like 4 hours later. It seems like it was a knee jerk reaction to not stream it, but better heads prevailed.
"Oh, they are making money streaming our game? We don't allow that."
Then they realized what was actually happening.
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Ok guys, time to get ~5 hours of sleep and come back for SFIV
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The popular esport titles are just so slow.
I don't get how we derived from Fighting games + Quake and stuff to games where 80% of the time nothing is happening.
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It's a shame the smash scene never got any nintendo support. This event really showed the potential smash had to be great competitive game. IIRC, MLG picked up brawl a few years ago but had to stop due to match fixing + nintendo.
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Nintendo got other more important stuff to care about.
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On July 15 2013 07:14 Kishin2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:13 Footler wrote:
That was so entertaining! What's the community site for SSBM? Does it have a TL.net equivalent? Watching Armada play Peach was so cool. smashboards
Thanks!
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On July 15 2013 07:14 Fatalize wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:13 zev318 wrote:On July 15 2013 07:12 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 15 2013 07:11 Hall0wed wrote:On July 15 2013 07:10 stuchiu wrote:On July 15 2013 07:08 SKC wrote:On July 15 2013 07:07 stuchiu wrote:
When's the next smash coming out? 2014 Then that confuses the issue of if Melee comes back next year, or if they might try the new one. Depends if Nintendo can actually learn and not make a shitty competitive game again like they did with Brawl. Nintendo doesn't really give a shit about competitive gaming though. nintendo almost didnt even give permission for this game to be streamed. shows u how much they really care about the community that supports their game TBH the competitive community represents less than 1% of the people buying SSB
100k++ viewers? You know, the viewers might buy the game because it looks fun even if they aren't looking to play in tournaments...
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On July 15 2013 07:14 Fatalize wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:13 zev318 wrote:On July 15 2013 07:12 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 15 2013 07:11 Hall0wed wrote:On July 15 2013 07:10 stuchiu wrote:On July 15 2013 07:08 SKC wrote:On July 15 2013 07:07 stuchiu wrote:
When's the next smash coming out? 2014 Then that confuses the issue of if Melee comes back next year, or if they might try the new one. Depends if Nintendo can actually learn and not make a shitty competitive game again like they did with Brawl. Nintendo doesn't really give a shit about competitive gaming though. nintendo almost didnt even give permission for this game to be streamed. shows u how much they really care about the community that supports their game TBH the competitive community represents less than 1% of the people buying SSB
but the people watching it are the casuals.
http://www.polygon.com/2013/2/1/3940260/super-smash-bros-melee-unofficial-winner-of-evo-2013-donation-drive
do you think the 1% could have done all that on their own?
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On July 15 2013 07:16 Thrillz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:08 Fatalize wrote:On July 15 2013 07:08 EleanorRIgby wrote:
isnt fox the best melee char? yes best character because of high ceiling. But probably the hardest to win tourneys, most unforgiving, and most difficult to learn of the top tier characters. No Fox has ever won a major national/international before Mango, and Mango isn't even really a fox main, he just plays matchups/what he's feeling.
Ice climbers is pretty shit tier compared to Fox still
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On July 15 2013 07:14 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:12 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 15 2013 07:11 Hall0wed wrote:On July 15 2013 07:10 stuchiu wrote:On July 15 2013 07:08 SKC wrote:On July 15 2013 07:07 stuchiu wrote:
When's the next smash coming out? 2014 Then that confuses the issue of if Melee comes back next year, or if they might try the new one. Depends if Nintendo can actually learn and not make a shitty competitive game again like they did with Brawl. Nintendo doesn't really give a shit about competitive gaming though. Hopefully, HOPEFULLY, numbers like the ones that just showed up to watch Melee can convince them otherwise. If not? They accidentally got it right with Melee, perhaps that title will just be immortal.
The problem is that they want their games to be family games, and they don't want their games to be portrayed as "hard" "competitive" games and scare away the family players.
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I hope the new Smash Bros is more akin to melee speed, but I somehow doubt it
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On July 15 2013 07:16 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:15 stuchiu wrote:On July 15 2013 07:13 zev318 wrote:On July 15 2013 07:12 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 15 2013 07:11 Hall0wed wrote:On July 15 2013 07:10 stuchiu wrote:On July 15 2013 07:08 SKC wrote:On July 15 2013 07:07 stuchiu wrote:
When's the next smash coming out? 2014 Then that confuses the issue of if Melee comes back next year, or if they might try the new one. Depends if Nintendo can actually learn and not make a shitty competitive game again like they did with Brawl. Nintendo doesn't really give a shit about competitive gaming though. nintendo almost didnt even give permission for this game to be streamed. shows u how much they really care about the community that supports their game Thy gave in like 4 hours later. It seems like it was a knee jerk reaction to not stream it, but better heads prevailed. "Oh, they are making money streaming our game? We don't allow that." Then they realized what was actually happening.
On Live on 3, they were saying that money actually wasn't their concern. They didn't even ask for EVO to pay a licensing fee. It was more about protecting their IP according to djWHEAT.
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On July 15 2013 07:15 Lemstar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 07:08 Tunga wrote:
SSBM, KoF, Persona All hype top 8's that deserve one more year! I think KoF and Melee both have pretty good odds, Nintendo's bungling notwithstanding. Persona tho
Which is a real shame too because P4 was great this year. And the Japan-Bananamerica 5v5 was great too. Definitely going to be getting back into P4A after seeing that.
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