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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 22 2013 14:45 GMT
#1281
On May 22 2013 23:30 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +

If you record a show from free-to-air TV

Show nested quote +

Can you explain to me the difference between me recording a free TV show on my recorder or watching the TV show online for free?


I don't know for you but free-to-air TV doesn't exist in my country. You pay a tax. Sure it's a tax for the year but TV, is NOT free. I pay 180€ tax for TV wich can be converted to a 15€/month almost the same as my internet connection. And i just talk about national television. You pay a tax because you own a TV.

So what are you saying? If everyone pays for it then you essentially own it so do whatever you want with it.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 14:47:38
May 22 2013 14:46 GMT
#1282
On May 22 2013 23:08 Shikyo wrote:
^ Can you explain to me the difference between me recording a free TV show on my recorder or me watching the TV show online for free?

Revolution of consoles...

Maybe one day we will have consoles with everything free-to-play with optional micro transactions. Got to go with the times.


You have to pay for Cable. You don't have to pay to watch a free stream of a TV show. This is significant when you're talking about channels like HBO. Also, when you stream TV shows online, you aren't subject to ads (think of systems like Hulu, that run almost completely on ad revenue).
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 14:52:24
May 22 2013 14:48 GMT
#1283
On May 22 2013 23:45 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 23:30 FFW_Rude wrote:

If you record a show from free-to-air TV


Can you explain to me the difference between me recording a free TV show on my recorder or watching the TV show online for free?


I don't know for you but free-to-air TV doesn't exist in my country. You pay a tax. Sure it's a tax for the year but TV, is NOT free. I pay 180€ tax for TV wich can be converted to a 15€/month almost the same as my internet connection. And i just talk about national television. You pay a tax because you own a TV.

So what are you saying? If everyone pays for it then you essentially own it so do whatever you want with it.


Not really. My point was TV is not free, so stop comparing something free that is not to anything. Maybe i understood wrong the points that people were trying to make but when you record a show on TV. You paid for it. you did not get it for free. I was just clarifying things for people that are debating (i guess).

Same thing for streaming. You pay it with you ISP. Same is for cable etc...

Like this one =>

On May 22 2013 23:46 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 23:08 Shikyo wrote:
^ Can you explain to me the difference between me recording a free TV show on my recorder or me watching the TV show online for free?

Revolution of consoles...

Maybe one day we will have consoles with everything free-to-play with optional micro transactions. Got to go with the times.


You have to pay for Cable. You don't have to pay to watch a free stream of a TV show. This is significant when you're talking about channels like HBO. Also, when you stream TV shows online, you aren't subject to ads (think of systems like Hulu, that run almost completely on ad revenue).


Cable => Not Free (and Ads)
Tv => Not free (And Ads)
Streaming => Not free. (And ads)

But maybe it's irrelevant to the debating persons. Sorry if it is.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
May 22 2013 14:55 GMT
#1284
You know a console will be successful when the discussion topic about it is mostly discussion about TV semantics less than 24 hours after said console was announced.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 22 2013 14:57 GMT
#1285
On May 22 2013 23:55 Kurr wrote:
You know a console will be successful when the discussion topic about it is mostly discussion about TV semantics less than 24 hours after said console was announced.

True story
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
May 22 2013 14:59 GMT
#1286
On May 22 2013 23:55 Kurr wrote:
You know a console will be successful when the discussion topic about it is mostly discussion about TV semantics less than 24 hours after said console was announced.


Hahaha damn right
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 22 2013 15:01 GMT
#1287
On May 22 2013 23:46 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 23:08 Shikyo wrote:
^ Can you explain to me the difference between me recording a free TV show on my recorder or me watching the TV show online for free?

Revolution of consoles...

Maybe one day we will have consoles with everything free-to-play with optional micro transactions. Got to go with the times.


You have to pay for Cable. You don't have to pay to watch a free stream of a TV show. This is significant when you're talking about channels like HBO. Also, when you stream TV shows online, you aren't subject to ads (think of systems like Hulu, that run almost completely on ad revenue).

Well I haven't used cable in forever, I've had digi TV for like 5 years or whatever. It's free with my internet. Cannot comment on cable. Yeah there are ads on most channels but in that case, am I not supposed to be able to download the tv show with ad breaks for free? Hm... Not like it's really that important but it still makes you wonder(or me at least).

Watching the CoD segment and I'm having trouble determining the graphic level. Looks like nothing special and if it's not even in-game graphics that's pretty awful(Comparing to the Diablo III cinematic...). Well, at least there's going to be the Halo live action TV-series for me to enjoy~
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 22 2013 15:04 GMT
#1288
On May 22 2013 22:35 JeremyK wrote:
Here is why I am disappointed. What will Xbox One bring to my TV experience to justify losing my existing functionality only to avoid hitting the input button on my remote?

Microsoft partners with one of the worst rated customer service cable providers in the country and expects the rest of us to want to give up our superior service? I would never, EVER, pay for Comcast.

My Directv box can:

Record 4 shows at once
Set up recordings from web
Watch from multiple rooms

Can Xbox One do any of that? No idea, their big premier gave us zero details on any of it.

What does xbox one do:
Allow me to get fantasy updates while watching sports
??
??
??


All microsoft had to do was show an updated 360 and I was ready to throw my money at them. How in the world they managed to make me reconsider getting the new xbox is beyond me.


Microsoft is on a roll, Win8, XONE. Wonder what's next?
starleague forever
shtdisturbance
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada613 Posts
May 22 2013 15:06 GMT
#1289
I have always been xbox over playstation until now.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
May 22 2013 15:07 GMT
#1290
On May 23 2013 00:04 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 22:35 JeremyK wrote:
Here is why I am disappointed. What will Xbox One bring to my TV experience to justify losing my existing functionality only to avoid hitting the input button on my remote?

Microsoft partners with one of the worst rated customer service cable providers in the country and expects the rest of us to want to give up our superior service? I would never, EVER, pay for Comcast.

My Directv box can:

Record 4 shows at once
Set up recordings from web
Watch from multiple rooms

Can Xbox One do any of that? No idea, their big premier gave us zero details on any of it.

What does xbox one do:
Allow me to get fantasy updates while watching sports
??
??
??


All microsoft had to do was show an updated 360 and I was ready to throw my money at them. How in the world they managed to make me reconsider getting the new xbox is beyond me.


Microsoft is on a roll, Win8, XONE. Wonder what's next?


You can't judge that... You don't even know what will be the Xbox One. EVERYONE was shitting on MS when they put up the Xbox live... And it's a success. You can't judge something that is not even out yet...

It's like judging Legacy of the void by the information we have and say : "It's terrible". I thought only french people were like that ! I'm shocked ! (And i'm French :p).

Without the mockery i would say : Wait. See. Try. And then judge.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 22 2013 15:12 GMT
#1291
On May 23 2013 00:07 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 00:04 a176 wrote:
On May 22 2013 22:35 JeremyK wrote:
Here is why I am disappointed. What will Xbox One bring to my TV experience to justify losing my existing functionality only to avoid hitting the input button on my remote?

Microsoft partners with one of the worst rated customer service cable providers in the country and expects the rest of us to want to give up our superior service? I would never, EVER, pay for Comcast.

My Directv box can:

Record 4 shows at once
Set up recordings from web
Watch from multiple rooms

Can Xbox One do any of that? No idea, their big premier gave us zero details on any of it.

What does xbox one do:
Allow me to get fantasy updates while watching sports
??
??
??


All microsoft had to do was show an updated 360 and I was ready to throw my money at them. How in the world they managed to make me reconsider getting the new xbox is beyond me.


Microsoft is on a roll, Win8, XONE. Wonder what's next?


You can't judge that... You don't even know what will be the Xbox One. EVERYONE was shitting on MS when they put up the Xbox live... And it's a success. You can't judge something that is not even out yet...

It's like judging Legacy of the void by the information we have and say : "It's terrible". I thought only french people were like that ! I'm shocked ! (And i'm French :p).

Without the mockery i would say : Wait. See. Try. And then judge.

It's like judging legacy of the void by an official announcement blizzard gives about it.

If they give an official announcement about legacy of the void that is terrible I can bet you anything that people will call it terrible.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
May 22 2013 15:13 GMT
#1292
On May 23 2013 00:12 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 00:07 FFW_Rude wrote:
On May 23 2013 00:04 a176 wrote:
On May 22 2013 22:35 JeremyK wrote:
Here is why I am disappointed. What will Xbox One bring to my TV experience to justify losing my existing functionality only to avoid hitting the input button on my remote?

Microsoft partners with one of the worst rated customer service cable providers in the country and expects the rest of us to want to give up our superior service? I would never, EVER, pay for Comcast.

My Directv box can:

Record 4 shows at once
Set up recordings from web
Watch from multiple rooms

Can Xbox One do any of that? No idea, their big premier gave us zero details on any of it.

What does xbox one do:
Allow me to get fantasy updates while watching sports
??
??
??


All microsoft had to do was show an updated 360 and I was ready to throw my money at them. How in the world they managed to make me reconsider getting the new xbox is beyond me.


Microsoft is on a roll, Win8, XONE. Wonder what's next?


You can't judge that... You don't even know what will be the Xbox One. EVERYONE was shitting on MS when they put up the Xbox live... And it's a success. You can't judge something that is not even out yet...

It's like judging Legacy of the void by the information we have and say : "It's terrible". I thought only french people were like that ! I'm shocked ! (And i'm French :p).

Without the mockery i would say : Wait. See. Try. And then judge.

It's like judging legacy of the void by an official announcement blizzard gives about it.

If they give an official announcement about legacy of the void that is terrible I can bet you anything that people will call it terrible.


But will they be right to do so ? I don't think so.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
ThatGuy
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada695 Posts
May 22 2013 15:16 GMT
#1293


Wow, the new kinect has some very impressive technology! I wonder why they chose not to demonstrate any of this during the presentation.
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
May 22 2013 15:20 GMT
#1294


I will never be able to look at dogs the same way in video games anymore.
BaneKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2013
United Kingdom9 Posts
May 22 2013 15:22 GMT
#1295
On May 23 2013 00:04 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 22:35 JeremyK wrote:
Here is why I am disappointed. What will Xbox One bring to my TV experience to justify losing my existing functionality only to avoid hitting the input button on my remote?

Microsoft partners with one of the worst rated customer service cable providers in the country and expects the rest of us to want to give up our superior service? I would never, EVER, pay for Comcast.

My Directv box can:

Record 4 shows at once
Set up recordings from web
Watch from multiple rooms

Can Xbox One do any of that? No idea, their big premier gave us zero details on any of it.

What does xbox one do:
Allow me to get fantasy updates while watching sports
??
??
??


All microsoft had to do was show an updated 360 and I was ready to throw my money at them. How in the world they managed to make me reconsider getting the new xbox is beyond me.


Microsoft is on a roll, Win8, XONE. Wonder what's next?


you forgot to mention windows 8 RT and surface pro
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 22 2013 15:25 GMT
#1296
i dunno if it was already shared but i laughed a lot :D

http://i.imgur.com/7tmSCjo.gif
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8281 Posts
May 22 2013 15:26 GMT
#1297
On May 23 2013 00:20 DCRed wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOxdMQhDMIU&feature=youtu.be

I will never be able to look at dogs the same way in video games anymore.


hahahaha. That is hilarious.
Purpose88
Profile Joined May 2013
Germany137 Posts
May 22 2013 15:30 GMT
#1298
The other issue is of cost. Please point me to the mid-range gaming PC with voice and gesture control, at least one wireless controller, a catalog of games designed for said controller and an interface designed for the lounge-room that costs less than $400? Because that's the target price for these consoles (I'm sure they'll be dearer for six months or so though).


Not sure if serious...
You think you can get a XBOX with all that stuff AND GAMES. PC will always be so much cheaper. The only Games I pay more thant 30$ at Release are Blizzardgames because these just don't get any cheaper anywhere.

And you argue like the XBOX would bring a 100" TV-Screen with it. You just can connect your PC to your TV... GG! If you want to to watch a Movie with your Kids, just use your fucking TV. No need for a XBOX wtf??!?!?
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
May 22 2013 15:34 GMT
#1299
On May 22 2013 23:57 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 23:55 Kurr wrote:
You know a console will be successful when the discussion topic about it is mostly discussion about TV semantics less than 24 hours after said console was announced.

True story

sad story ;-;
The universe created an audience for itself.
Reborn58
Profile Joined August 2010
United States238 Posts
May 22 2013 15:55 GMT
#1300
On May 23 2013 00:12 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 00:07 FFW_Rude wrote:
On May 23 2013 00:04 a176 wrote:
On May 22 2013 22:35 JeremyK wrote:
Here is why I am disappointed. What will Xbox One bring to my TV experience to justify losing my existing functionality only to avoid hitting the input button on my remote?

Microsoft partners with one of the worst rated customer service cable providers in the country and expects the rest of us to want to give up our superior service? I would never, EVER, pay for Comcast.

My Directv box can:

Record 4 shows at once
Set up recordings from web
Watch from multiple rooms

Can Xbox One do any of that? No idea, their big premier gave us zero details on any of it.

What does xbox one do:
Allow me to get fantasy updates while watching sports
??
??
??


All microsoft had to do was show an updated 360 and I was ready to throw my money at them. How in the world they managed to make me reconsider getting the new xbox is beyond me.


Microsoft is on a roll, Win8, XONE. Wonder what's next?


You can't judge that... You don't even know what will be the Xbox One. EVERYONE was shitting on MS when they put up the Xbox live... And it's a success. You can't judge something that is not even out yet...

It's like judging Legacy of the void by the information we have and say : "It's terrible". I thought only french people were like that ! I'm shocked ! (And i'm French :p).

Without the mockery i would say : Wait. See. Try. And then judge.

It's like judging legacy of the void by an official announcement blizzard gives about it.

If they give an official announcement about legacy of the void that is terrible I can bet you anything that people will call it terrible.


It's like if they announced that with legacy of the void you could also use your pc without alt-tabbing...instead you could speak to it or hand motion. And then people freaked out and said they aren't buying lotv and it sucks because they don't mind alt-tabbing and that the entire game must suck because they gave us the option to not alt-tab.

Quit crying, everyone. The system offers all this extra functionality and all you can do is complain that it somehow ruins the system. Grow up.
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